Part 2 Toro Zero Turn Hydro Axle Broken Repair
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6 жыл бұрынamzn.to/2rLMrs7 Hydro Trans Axle Kit
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In this video I repair the Toro Timecutter with the 2 broken axles. This was a fun project.
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@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
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@bobdriver6946 5 жыл бұрын
Hydro-Gear pays 3 hours warranty time for the complete O/H on most of their transaxles. Center section is the most expensive part thar usually needs replaced and runs about $200 retail. Complete 2100 series units run about $500 on EBAY. 2800 to 3400 series units run $750 and up. 5400 series is their top of the line commercial unit and are always black. They run planetary gears rather than the bull gear set up you see in this video. They start at around $1,000 per side. Left side is the most common to fail. Most people make more left hand turns with discharge chute on the right side of the deck. Left side is also the side where the belt is most likely to slip, because the belt is "pushed" around the pulley rather than pulled. Belt slippage, stuck by-pass valve, and low oil are the most common problems you need to check before you start thinking you have an internal problem with your transaxle.
@gus9662 Жыл бұрын
I've ordered my Gravely oilseal, bearing and c-ring last week. 2 week estimate to get them in(I can hardly wait).. Watched your videos 10 times in preparation to do mine. I feel like I can now do it with my eyes closed thanks to your vids. The only thing left for me to do is stay in a Holiday Inn Express just to be sure.👍👍
@ernestkyed5232 2 жыл бұрын
I did this repair on a mower and it worked great! This video was the perfect guide for me to do it, although it took me a little longer. Thank you for the video.
@glennmitera5519 3 жыл бұрын
Double Wide, Your video was awesome!!! Spent Labor Day weekend rebuilding my hydro motors. One broke on my wife while cutting this week. Rebuilt both with the kits. Thank you for the helpful video!!! 👍 Glenn
@alverteswashington7067 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always on point with clarity. I Appreciate your knowledge base, skill set, and the ability to convey clear instructions!
@louislamboley9167 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the videos. I just changed out the axles as per your instructions. Very helpful and clearly explained and filmed.
@territodude 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this video! Clear, concise and easy to follow!
@MrGoosePit 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed seeing how this is done. Should be of great help for someone trying to do the repair themselves. Great video Doublewide6!
@kwat2008 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!! I just got done replacing my second broken axle.
@JH-ph7ik 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video, saved me..
@timothycheney9480 6 жыл бұрын
Your yard looks great. I love the layout. Your tiller looks about the same as my 1995 Craftsman edger that still runs strong.
@bobpa1455 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos on this repair I could not of done it without your valuable help, MUCH APPRECIATED!!! You Rock BRO!
@nashguy207 6 жыл бұрын
Good video Bob. This should help anyone wanting to do this to their machine. I think you did a good job of showing how to reassemble the transaxle unit. A lot of other hydro gear units are very similar to this one just larger. Keep up the great videos buddy. Give the little man our best wishes and a hug. Have a great weekend. God Bless!!!
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nash. It is a bit of work but anyone that has the time could get her done.
@joeo1352 6 жыл бұрын
It’s coming along nice. Very good video
@timpope1221 6 жыл бұрын
Great video , Thanks for taking the time to make this video !!
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
No problem thanks for commenting.
@rtiros 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Double👍🏻
@MrCarmelo1959 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks buddy once again you amaze me on how you repair these machines. I have a toro timecutter zero. Now I can upgrade the same in the future hope you sell it and get all your investments well done.
@ariannasdadva 9 ай бұрын
Great videos I learned a lot
@knighthawk86855 6 жыл бұрын
Very well done video, and now you have an awesome zero turn, way to go.
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Well it is going to be a bit more work than just the trans.
@knighthawk86855 6 жыл бұрын
doublewide6 Repairs LLC I'm sure you have it handled, looking forward to more videos on it.
@LRCohen1961 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@svogel54 6 жыл бұрын
Great job, you make it look easy
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
The real hard part is screwing around with the camera while you are trying to figure out how to fix the thing.
@petefroud5308 6 жыл бұрын
Top work Bob .
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete. A bit of a project, but I'm always looking for one.
@rodneybrand8521 6 жыл бұрын
Good repair...looks like it will be a good mower ..now that you have rebuilt it...cheers 🍺🍺🍺🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@philipgolombick5997 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent help thanks so much
@d.mcdave8880 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job. You have a nice easy style of presentation when working. Very enjoyable to watch and listen to. sub'd & liked
@jamessayers260 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video man I'm selling zero turn hydrostatic transmission and you just help me figure out that the outside seal will definitely leak on the ones I have appreciate everything
@terrylarotonda784 6 жыл бұрын
Good job Bob.
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry. I hope your doing alright these days. Best Wishes.
@aprendisaje9506 Жыл бұрын
Super cool! Gracias for you video. Helps me a lot. 🤟🤟😎🤟🤟
@rogeroconnor5182 6 жыл бұрын
glad it worked out,seems to work like new
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it has been working well. Unfortunately the mower still needs some engine work yet.
@kennethconnors5316 4 жыл бұрын
nice work , better than new
@donnienorman778 6 жыл бұрын
Great repair video! Thank you for sharing. How’s the scooter running?
@deanguando1335 4 жыл бұрын
Good job
@BrucesShop 6 жыл бұрын
Very good Bob
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce, did Winter end yet up there?
@BrucesShop 6 жыл бұрын
You know we went from winter to summer in a couple of weeks. 27C today I think that is 78F. Thank goodness.
@deanguando1335 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth doing what you did. Not only that - you got to service the transaxles also. My theory is - if you have to replace the transaxles you may as well buy a new mower in most cases.
@VolvoGonzo 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Hey man leave a little rvt for the rest of us.
@poq600 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job. If I was looking to buy your mower, I would be more confident if you would have inspected on video the center shaft, which is a known issue on cub cadets hydro gears. Thanks
@watermanone7567 6 жыл бұрын
Great job. I have a small engine shop and have stayed clear of trans axles. Now my own John Deere LX177 needs an over hall. Don't know if I am going to get a re-man or do it myself. Please give me your thoughts on the JD trans axel??? Thanks for the great video's.
@MirroringTruth 2 жыл бұрын
They were kinda pricey(think $30), but "Channel-locks" has a snap ring pliers that go both ways with the flip of a switch. They both draw, and expand, depending, and come with different pin sizes for the snap rings. I've really liked them and haven't found anything they didn't fit(so far anyways). My garage space is so limited, one tool for every job just works for me...
@dgbarnes3491 6 жыл бұрын
How do I get the old shaft out? I admit I am pretty novice and I appreciated the detail video.
@tazmun 6 жыл бұрын
Nice repair, good job, I am concerned however with the looseness of the axle wheel seals. That didn't give me the warm fuzzy feeling! A dust seal fine, but an oil seal not so much. I guess I would have felt almost obligated to add some sealant to the seals seats.
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
They did seem a bit loose. Actually, it is only the brake shaft seal that is not held in place with snap rings. If it did come loose it would be a simple fix. Loctite would have helped.
@onyx1126 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I didn't see the bolt for the hub getting torqued down. When I try to torque it to 240-260 ft pounds like the instructions say, it starts spinning the axle and gears inside. So how do you torque it? Did I miss something
@302vettelife2 6 жыл бұрын
Don't take this the wrong way, it's all in fun. I do the same thing. I lube the moving parts and washers like you did. Then I put it all together and dump a few quarts of oil in it. I'm guessing everything is getting lubed once the hydro is filled.
@almosthomesteading9734 6 жыл бұрын
On a semi-related topic - - I have about 5 acres to mow (not including around shop and [future] house). I also have a pretty steep pond/lake levee to mow. Any zero turns that you might recommend for such a big task? I currently mow with a 5' brushhog in the field and a 6' finish mower. Should I just stay with what I have or could a zero turn allow me to mow at a faster clip? I can't get out of second gear on my old 1958 IH240 without pushing over the grass instead of cutting it with the rotary cutter.
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Gravely's are pretty solid zero turns. It depends if there is a dealer in your area or if you do your own repairs. Any commercial zero turn (the ones that are 9 -12K should do the job no problem) and way faster.
@rbarr775 6 жыл бұрын
Very instructive video. I have to wonder about QC and product testing when a 42" ZTR can twist a 3/4" axle into pieces like that. The drive axles of small FWD passenger cars aren't much larger OD!
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
They are most likely hardened or alloys.
@johnmanning1006 4 жыл бұрын
great job think ill buy 1 cheap an fix it lol as allways have a good one
@user-cv2pt3ky7t 10 ай бұрын
The spot where the breathing tube comes out holds oil also... It seems like a hell to have a quart by itself... Did you empty that part of the unit.,.?
@aprendisaje9506 Жыл бұрын
You have an address where you buy your parts to repair these hydraulics. Thank you and your video does help me a lot. I'm a small grass cutting company
@themichiganderproject4156 9 ай бұрын
Can you fill the transmission through the breather hose?
@kyke9784 6 жыл бұрын
Just a little tip I just learned about has nothing to do with this video but rumor has it that tennis racket string last up to 3 times longer then regular weed eater string when used in a weed eater
@Jim-ie6uf 6 жыл бұрын
Damn nice job! Not for the faint of heart either.
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
No not really, but anyone could do it.
@MrNcturkey 11 ай бұрын
Could tell me how you tightened the hub nut?
@MrNcturkey 11 ай бұрын
Do you have to replace both sides?
@andrecampbell691 3 жыл бұрын
How do you break both 3/4 inch axals?
@kenzpenz 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative. Check out the beautiful green lawns....
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kenneth. I figured this video will help others out.
@jamela3525 5 жыл бұрын
On my Z420 just one side broke, can I just replace on side? Or will it affect the turning or driving if I do just one side? thanks
@doublewide6 5 жыл бұрын
It is recommended for this repair to do both sides at the same time. This should be a Toro recall part because both sides will eventually fail. I'm from the line of thinking that if you going to do it just do it right the first time. Good luck with your machine.
@johnfogg7300 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where I can order the kits from please
@johnmcook1 2 жыл бұрын
the gear whine at the end of the video says air bro but should be gone after a couple uses
@tomdewey9907 6 жыл бұрын
Bob, I think use put way too much RTV the mating surfaces of the trans case halves. Also a much better gasket maker product is the Permatex "The Right Stuff" IMO ( though it is more pricey than RTV).
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
I am familiar with the right stuff I have seen Mustie1 use it several times. I did have a bit much Rtv. To be honest with you they should just use gaskets that fit the case.
@tomdewey9907 6 жыл бұрын
I agree that they should of just used a gasket to start with, but also a lot of automotive manufacturers have been using The Right Stuff instead of traditional gaskets right on the assembly line.
@bobdriver6946 5 жыл бұрын
Hydro-Gear service manual says bead should be 1/16 to 1/8 wide
@aleblanc3547 6 жыл бұрын
Money in the bank...50% (or more) of the stuff that gets put by the side of the road just needs a little attention, maybe a part or two, some patience and a little skill to keep it going. I was just telling my neighbor (medically retired) how easy it would be to pick up $200 - $300 a month just keeping an eye open for the "junk" people put out for garbage. What can't be fixed or used for parts can be scraped for junk metal. Thanks Bob, it's always a pleasure to see you do just that.
@Darryl603 6 жыл бұрын
Don't let your wife see you using her measuring cup with gear oil! Thanks for sharing...
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, really.
@3Polenzmotorsports 2 жыл бұрын
Duddddde how much oil!?
@poq600 5 жыл бұрын
If I wasn't clear,I meant the piston pump assembly wearing out and leaking.
@3000000june18 4 жыл бұрын
I have a yard man 32 same as a toro timecutter Can anyone tell me how to change transaxle fluid change without dropping the transaxle thanks
@howardwear 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you have to drop it. There is no acces to it otherwise, as they are considered mostly non serviceable. Definitely could have been a better design on this aspect.
@daganhaddad 4 жыл бұрын
@@howardwear I've read about guys drilling in from bottom....either way definitely sucks - I had to replace one side in 2016...$1400....now the other sides going -
@mitchsalsbury2311 Жыл бұрын
You can't close it too much silicone
@MissouriOldTimer 6 жыл бұрын
it should be better with the bigger axles,
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would hope so.
@Bass.Player 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a used Husqvarna ZTR commercial mower that is over 20 years old and it is built so much better than this toy here. I have had it at least 15 years. Three belts (two deck and one hydro) a couple of pulley's and a used hydro pump $230 is all i have done to it. Toro should have to eat these axles, that is a design flaw.... When my current mower goes I won't be buying a Toro!
@mitchsalsbury2311 Жыл бұрын
Less is more
@newtuthis1 6 жыл бұрын
Man you basically made this video for nothing telling that you would as a service person just buy new units. That’s poor service if it’s just what you did. And the units are not the price you said they are more like $900 and I know I just quoted a new one. You did the job great positivity and customer service goes a long way. From a fellow repair shop don’t be so quick to discourage on fixing them.
@doublewide6 6 жыл бұрын
I understand your point. I made the video mainly to help anyone that wants to repair their axle themselves. Really it is my belief that Toro or Hydrogear should have if anything provided the parts for free. Just not my type of job for a customer. It would have cost about $900 parts and labor for me to do both sides, but what if it leaked or didn't work, not the type of thing I want to be trying to repair again. I would only do the job as full transaxle replacement or just referred them to someone else.
@mikespain8655 3 жыл бұрын
Poor design from Toro and Hydro Gear, and good replacement by you. Amazon parts 1/3 the cost of OEM. Amazon is the Wal-Mart of online. Going to put lots of companies out of business. If parts and products weren't so expensive these days, more people would support the little guys. However, you have to stay cost competitive and save money.