1/4" matters

No doubt , Mathew has the best marketing team for sure they also make a great product but I totally agree with what you

@@longshotdiedtired1582 they do make an incredible bow there’s no denying that. And even though I think the Lift is probably the bow of the year I’m going to stick with Hoyt because it’s not a big enough difference to justify buying all new accessories

I think as long as Chris Bee makes his own upgrade grip they will not make a new one. Maybe they have a deal on that? 🤔

That's what I was going to ask.

I couldn't believe Josh and Tim have missed this point across multiple videos. Elite has had 1/4" draw length adjustment for years and with the SPX cams the let off has an infinite range of adjustment between the two extreme settings. I actually use the let off adjustment on my Verdict to essentially micro tune the draw length beyond the already impressive 1/4" adjustment of the modules. I know that changes the holding weight but I'm prepared to sacrifice a few lbs of holding weight in either direction to get a perfect feeling draw length.

I like xpeditions old bows.. Like the Denali.. Was 3.9 lbs for a 34 ata bow, with good speeds

I hope, that Axxis 31 looks amazing, and I still love a 7” brace height, but being lefty I rely on reviews a lot and Athens’ dealers aren’t doing super in-depth reviews. Slight delay exception being Avergae Jack Archery

Well that’s like, your opinion man. - The Dude

@@Thedudeabides803 it’s not that big of a deal but like come on. The Mathew’s was 15 fps off of manufacturers specs and he gave them a 4/5 for speed rating. Let’s not even talk about the 2 inches of reflex that’s apparently “not terribly bad” in his own words 😂

He didn’t test with 80 mods sir

@@cowboyjoe3734 These made up mods that aren’t available to one of the highest selling bow shops of Mathew’s products. 😂 come on man. If the company can’t put a part out with a bow from a launch day but they test these bows for years on technology before it’s released to the public 🤔 and given the mods you get 11 fps off of what they say

Yeah that’s why he shoots and raves on BowTech more than most…LMAO

So what do you shoot now? I have a 29.5 inch draw as well am looking at the 33 inch ata models, currently shooting 29.5 ata hoyt axius

@@Drewbee-archer V3X ... I've waited for years for Hoyt to finally change their mods to consider their 33.

Anyone complaining about a bow being too light knows nothing about bow stabilization and what stabilizers do. Never add weight to the riser, always add it to the end of the stabilizers.

This arguement exists across all products Cars, Cameras, Knives, Computers, Bows why are you fighting people for their opinions?. Let it go & shoot your choice of bow!.

I think MFJJ also likes the geometry of the LIFT more (longer riser and less reflex) and until that difference is there he will prefer Mathews over Hoyt

@@stephengatley8144he could just own his bow shop and make purely spec videos instead of this grading system he uses to influence his audience to buy products. Nobody is complaining about his opinions but he’s repeatedly claimed he’s completely unbiased. If he was unbiased he wouldn’t be trying to convince us he is. If he feels it’s his right to make misleading videos on accident or on purpose it’s 100% the audiences right to push back and ask hard questions. Telling people to forget about blatant hypocrisy is not a good way of solving the world’s problems. I just don’t understand why he wants to be the #1 bow reviewer on KZfaq if he’s friends with the number one selling manufacturer. Just seems a bit unethical if you aren’t just posting the speed and specs as they are measured by a standard. As soon as you start giving Mathew’s hypothetical numbers and brush over a high reflex you lose my trust. Also ignoring some of the Hoyt features in the review was unforgivable when it comes to him doing his best. If he can’t even mention all the new features of the Hoyt but he can breakdown every single part of the Mathew’s it makes you wonder why that is.

Mathews dropped a ton of weight in the process and comparably Hoyt did not.

I agree, however, the only thing Mathews did that Hoyt did not do was drop weight. In fact, as I mentioned in my original post, Hoyt did more than Mathews when you consider 1/4" draw adjustment, changeable back wall, and 75-85% letoff on the cam. @@vandeputte555

Any idea why it did it

@davidbabyakdeerkiller8607 The cam design. It's such a severe angle. I was told that new strings would take care of it, but not in my case. Talked to my shop, and it's a lot more common than I thought. Sad because I loved the bow

Yeah I’ll never own another blowtech. Garbage company and cheap product

I agree that Bowtechs are harsh on their cables, but not to a point that can’t be remedied. My last set of strings on my SR350 lasted 3500+ shots, all in performance, and in all kinds of inclement weather. Try a different string maker, maybe a local or smaller operation that isn’t just trying to pump out as many strings as possible. My string maker takes the extra time on my strings knowing how harsh Bowtech is on cables. I shoot both a Revolt X and SR350 all on performance and have had 0 issues with his strings.

Agreed. I put Catfish Custom strings on my SS34 and they have help up perfectly after at least 1500 shots. @@sheyanderson4371