Part One: The Clarence Thomas Story

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Part One: The Clarence Thomas Story | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined by Miles Gray to discuss Clarence Thomas, a four part series.
Original Air Date: July 26, 2022
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@jodinsan 6 ай бұрын

I love to hear that Clarance "The Sellout" Thomas went through such hardship in his early years only to decide, "More people should go through what I did" in his rulings later in life. He perfectly embodies the, "I got mine so F you" mentality in modern Conservatives.

@origami_dream 6 ай бұрын

He is the embodiment of opposing student loan relief because "but i had to pay it (when it wasn't *quite* so bleak!) If i had to suffer, you should too!"

@Grizabeebles 6 ай бұрын

It's even worse. Not only does he refuse to recognize that the foundations for his success were laid by others, he still has the "strip all the copper out of the walls" mentality that was beaten into him in childhood.

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

Conservaphobia is racism, sexism, antisemitism, and homophobia all rolled into one. As a Gay MAN and a Jew, I will not sacrifice my people on the altar of neoliberalism.

@SavageGreywolf 6 ай бұрын

Took a class on the Supreme Court as part of my degree, which really hammered home to me how much the idea of the SCOTUS as a politically neutral body driven by procedure, law, and precedent is an utter fiction. One thing that stood out to me though is when discussing current and recent Justices is how universally disliked Thomas is among his peers. Scalia and Ginsberg famously had a good friendship despite their ideological differences to the point of passing silly notes to each other and their families spending time together. No one, conservative or liberal, likes Thomas.

@Chloe-dv9ns 6 ай бұрын

Did you agree with the class literature on the point of SCOTUS being a politically neutral body? Like, did it convince you?

@Daedalus117 6 ай бұрын

@@Chloe-dv9nsthat it's not politically neutral? Seems like it from what they wrote

@Chloe-dv9ns 6 ай бұрын

@@Daedalus117 dang actually did not see the "is an utter fiction" part, and was genuinely curious what works they could cite to even entertain that precedent. Anyway , ty for that.

@justcommenting4981 6 ай бұрын

The idea of having a friendship with Scalia is disgusting. That is repugnant if true. Hopefully the silly letters were meant as a way to touch a substance of dubious nature.

@KaiTenSatsuma 6 ай бұрын

So does the fiction of "Putting aside personal gain to serve your country" Y'ALL BEEN GRIFTING SINCE DAY ONE AND SOME OF YOU DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO

@smallcutepuppy 6 ай бұрын

Minus the really draconian stuff, I feel strong echoes of this Meyers SOB in my dad. I was never forced to work in unsafe conditions, but I sure got spanked, thrown around and ridiculed plenty. My long history of trauma has, I think, left me MORE empathetic to people who struggle. It really blows my mind how, for so many who grow up in such environments and manage to escape, their mindset becomes, "Well I went through hell, so why should I help make things any easier for you?" Fuck, man.

@jamesnorman9160 6 ай бұрын

Those are the same kind of people who say 'I had a shitty childhood and I turned out fine!' No. If you insist on repeating history with your own children, then you did not, in fact, turn out fine. I've read and heard plenty of stories of people with abusive parents/families who made the same kinds of excuses, and it's mind-boggling how some people go through that kind of life and then just willingly inflict it upon their own offspring.

@justcommenting4981 6 ай бұрын

I think there is an immutable component to it. There is a black box the experience is processed in and what comes out is shockingly different.

@hellbreakfast1590 6 ай бұрын

I had the same thought. I just... I want to cry for him. This man is my enemy, and I want to cry for him. But I can't fix it, and dude wouldn't let me even if I could. But hey, I am really glad you chose the path of empathy, instead. It's the harder path, and it hurts worse, but it's the better path to being stronger. Keep it up, stranger.

@Lou-Mae 6 ай бұрын

Good time for this episode to be uploaded here, given yet more news on his shittiness. From ProPublica, Dec 18: "Interviews and newly unearthed documents reveal that Thomas, facing financial strain, privately pushed for a higher salary and to allow Supreme Court justices to take speaking fees."

@Lou-Mae 6 ай бұрын

(And by "financial strain" they mean things like having recently borrowed almost $270k from a friend to buy a new RV.)

@ameboaboy 6 ай бұрын

Hasn't there been some new inflammatory revelation about him every month for at least a couple years now? Seems like any time would be a good time.

@CaptainUrielVentris7 6 ай бұрын

Effectively advertising an openness to bribery.

@justcommenting4981 6 ай бұрын

Lol Borrowed from a friend. Is this friend anyone that happens to have any immediate interest in cases coming up or already presented to da court?

@KaiTenSatsuma 6 ай бұрын

The ProPublica article makes it seem less like "People just took advantage of Clarence Thomas' poor financial situation to influence him" and more along the lines of "CLARENCE THOMAS WAS OPENLY ADVERTISING HE WANTED TO BE BRIBED, WHY, IF ONLY THIS RV AND HOME PAID FOR ITSELF. POOR ME, SOMEONE SHOULD PAY MY STUDENT LOANS" And the fact that nobody spat in his face and told him in 2000 that "You make nearly $200,000 just existing, shut the fuck up" and people *_actually took his claim seriously_* just says a lot about how fucked this whole system is.

@shmehfleh3115 6 ай бұрын

Never thought I'd say this, but I wish Clarence Thomas hadn't burned his house down.

@hellbreakfast1590 6 ай бұрын

Holy shit. I. The first half, about Thomas' upbringing was actually legitimately triggering to someone who endured childhood abuse. I had to ground and breathe, how horrible this poor man suffered. Dudes will get on the fucking Supreme Court and take rights away from others INSTEAD OF GETTING FUCKING THERAPY FOR THEIR SEVERE AND OBVIOUS TRAUMA. I keep crying "It ain't fair. He shouldn'a had to endure that, it ain't fuckin' fair!" It doesn't take back what he's done, doesn't excuse it. But it shines a light on the direction we need to reform society in, no matter if Thomas himself stands against it. Education, social programs, access to proper health care, food and a place to live. All of these things are what's actually good for children's wellbeing.

@johnmarkther2218 6 ай бұрын

Youre not alone, it was difficult to get through. Clarence thomas has done so much harm to people, but i can have empathy for that child ):

@cactusshadow9840 6 ай бұрын

All of Thomas' words are so self involved. a judge needs self awareness, but i haven't heard him express concern for others...

@goodun2974 5 ай бұрын

In the specific case of Clarence Thomas, what would have been good for the nation would be for his mother to have had access to contraception and abortion. No woman should be forced to bear children on an atmosphere of violence and poverty.

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

Therapy is a racket.

@thatbirdhasaknife 6 ай бұрын

This man is a Voltron of human misery

@hellbreakfast1590 6 ай бұрын

I just paused and sat there with a thousand yard stare after reading this one. Just. Yeah.

@kombatwombat6579 6 ай бұрын

@@hellbreakfast1590Bruh, you sure react STRONG to things.

@kiran387 6 ай бұрын

There is a fantastic Frontline doc about Clarence and Ginni Thomas that is a must watch after listening to this, and I look forward to hearing more from BTB about this guy. Good work guys!

@jenniferklein1707 6 ай бұрын

Your pronunciation of Worcester is funnier than just saying it how it's spelled.

@gabrielgabe6949 6 ай бұрын

Dude sounds like Bill Hader. Really did this awesome show. Thank you for the content.

@matthewvandeventer3632 6 ай бұрын

This came out before the coruption was revealed.

@SS-xr7jf Ай бұрын

To be fair to McCain, I don’t think he was at risk of ever being tortured again when he developed his “torture is bad” stance. So it’s not really a good example of conveniently changing your morals when you benefit from it, the way Thomas did, so much as it’s an example of the republican tendency to have issues empathizing until it directly impacts them.

@rorylynch1203 6 ай бұрын

Cory Robin’s book was so wild and illuminating

@Tymbus 6 ай бұрын

What I get from this is a man totally commited to imposing his world view on others, no matter what that view may be at the time.

@ViolentOrchid 6 ай бұрын

God only told Adam about the tree, and he never told Eve. So who's evil in this scenario?

@cactusshadow9840 6 ай бұрын

if bible is your moral compass you'll go wrong. it is fragmentary spiritual teachings peddled to isolated peasants on peninsulas.

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

Satan created Eve.

@pjk9225 6 ай бұрын

It’s fuckin’ Wuss-tah kid! I had no idea he went to holy cross

@ocularpatdown 6 ай бұрын

I’m just going to assume this was an excellent episode, as are all the ones I’ve listened to. I despise Clarence Thomas so much, I just can’t listen to this.

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

When are you going to admit you hate him because he’s black?

@mikemann1494 6 ай бұрын

Fuck yeah, just got to an rmv and needed something to take the edge off.

@jordanharper5795 6 ай бұрын

What's an rmv?

@mikemann1494 6 ай бұрын

@@jordanharper5795 Registry of motor vehicle. Because new england can't Department of Motor vehicle.

@jordanharper5795 6 ай бұрын

@@mikemann1494 thanks lol

@MisfitKnives Ай бұрын

Worchester MA is pronounced WUS-stah

@daniellundberg2875 6 ай бұрын

At first I thought she was making dolls from weed, as in the kind you smoke :D

@NotoriousLightning 6 ай бұрын

What's the end of a lazy Pete?

@psephos 6 ай бұрын

Pius THE TENTH

@BrandonPilcher 6 ай бұрын

So Clarence Thomas went from being a Black nationalist to a Black Republican, but stayed regressive throughout. What a journey!

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

Neither of those things are regressive and all opposition to both constitutes racism.

@kombatwombat6579 6 ай бұрын

To be fair, we Spanish people don't take naps. Siesta is a myth. We work the same hours on the same schedule as any other country. Edit: I WISH I could take it.

@goodun2974 5 ай бұрын

I spent a month traveling in Greece in the 1980s and they did ( still do?) take a "siesta", where most businesses close for 2 to 3 hours in the middle of the day.

@kombatwombat6579 5 ай бұрын

@@goodun2974 See? We don't do that here. It's a balance between improving your health and destroying your economy.

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

They are too busy forcing Jews to convert to Christianity.

@ravikrishnan3 4 ай бұрын

The unserious nature of banter about racism nd trauma is appalling even if the man is a bad person. White people just laughing away is so weird to me.

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

Yts attacking Black conservatives is a form of verbal lynching, and anybody who says otherwise is participating in that lynching. Bashing Black conservatives is bashing Black people, plain and simple. And doing it while yt constitutes incitement to violence. This is doing the work of the KKK for them. I’m tired of the phrase “race card” being used to shut down all discussions of race because this discussion about why yt shitlibs, especially those neither Gay nor Jewish, think that racist hate speech against Black conservatives is acceptable is going to happen and it is going to be a one-way conversation in which they stop using words and let those they demonize speak for themselves.

@marvinsooksabai6886 6 ай бұрын

Sometimes I just want to hear the story of the person they’re talking about, it gets so damn annoying when the hosts talk so damn much, and go back and forth with their corny jokes. I can only listen to these guys once in awhile before it starts to get irritating.

@Jedwardkakin 6 ай бұрын

Congrats!

@SavageGreywolf 6 ай бұрын

It's about integrity in games journalism, huh

@kombatwombat6579 6 ай бұрын

I understand what you say, but you know there are other content creators that may appeal more to your interests, don't you? You don't need to suffer through it if you don't like the content's main flavor.

@stoppit9 6 ай бұрын

I dunno, maybe just read a book then. This is what a podcast is

@Attmay 3 ай бұрын

Conservaphobia is basically an umbrella prejudice that encompasses all the others and lampshades it by using anti-conservatism to justify anti-Blackness, anti-Judaism, anti-womanhood, and anti-homosexuality. Attacking minority conservatives for being conservatives is attacking minorities for being minorities. It is saying you do not have the right to your own opinion unless you belong to one of the oppressor classes. This channel is nothing but conservaphobic boomer-adjacent shitlib bilge, pure and simple. “Man bad, GOP bad, whites bad” is hate speech no matter how many multisyllabic synonyms you use for it.