Particle Beam Weapons - Command and Conquer - Tiberium Lore

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Jethild

Jethild

Күн бұрын

Looking at the development and use of particle beam weapons by both the Global Defense Initiative and the Brotherhood of Nod in the Command and Conquer Tiberium timeline/universe. Timestamps, corrections and/or clarifications posted below.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro + Prologue
02:47 Ion Cannon
11:30 Other GDI Weapons
14:04 Nod Particle Beam Weapons + Outro
Footage and some images and/or concept art are from Command and Conquer video game series which is the property of Electronic Arts. Other images and art might be used from other sources and all rights to those belong to their respective authors. Video animations, voiced dialogue and editing are made by myself.
Music used:
Recon (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
Airstrike (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
Infiltration (C&C TSFS) - Frank Klepacki
Industrial Ambient (C&C R) - Frank Klepacki
On the Prowl (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
Creeping Upon (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
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@weldonwin
@weldonwin 3 жыл бұрын
"Nukes are barbaric and we have sworn never to use such weapons of mass destruction... Now check out our orbital Death Ray!"
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
And the thing is, GDI does actually have nukes. They just don't want to use them. As Director, though, I would.
@ptolemaicfoxxo3032
@ptolemaicfoxxo3032 3 жыл бұрын
Gdi watched too much star wars
@shahshakuras700
@shahshakuras700 3 жыл бұрын
Lets use nukes on a planet infested with a volatile raidoactive cyristals what could go wrong ?
@derpionderpson1424
@derpionderpson1424 3 жыл бұрын
@@shahshakuras700 well... we did find out...
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
@@shahshakuras700 Nod was nuking everything...we should've done the same. Not like the Ion gun doesn't cause a lot of boom, or could cause a cataclysmic explosion of blue tiberium in a Red Zone- oh, wait
@DreadGrimReaper
@DreadGrimReaper 3 жыл бұрын
"Ion Cannon ready!"
@muhammadhasyim4051
@muhammadhasyim4051 3 жыл бұрын
"Ion Cannon Activated"
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadhasyim4051 Nod: ( terrified screaming )
@kirbi4266
@kirbi4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chino56751 we are victorious.
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirbi4266 ( Shiny GDI logo spins )
@kirbi4266
@kirbi4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chino56751 *happy GDI noises*
@remanscimitar
@remanscimitar 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is we're technically touching the technology for accelerated particles but not weaponized (yet) satellites due to a 1980s treaty (which was due to Rod of God/Canes of God kinetic energy weapons platforms).
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
Its called SDI (which is probably where GDI comes from) the plan was to use Energy weapons to stop Nukes from orbit, the Reagan Administration wanted to use it to deter the Soviets from launching them, but as you can see this would have escalate the Cold War and so it was scrapped. (funny part was one of the fears was that the US would develop something like the Ion Cannon to level Cities) Project Thor on the other hand was a proposed Satalite weapon that uses Tungsten Rods as Kinetic Missiles called Mijolnir (it was Show cased in COD at 1 point as Odin)
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the Cold war, there was a large number of proposed Soviet Tanks roughly the Weight of the Mammoths and Apocalypse tanks of CnC such as the IS 7 and the object 279 which was designed to survive Nukes.
@mxn1948
@mxn1948 3 жыл бұрын
@@forickgrimaldus8301 it was discarded because SDI was infeasible. the amount of power needed was not easily produced and accuracy wasn't very good. the plan originally called for nuclear bomb pumped x-ray lasers IE: literally placing nukes in space at extreme cost only to explode them to power a laser that could only focus one target and probably miss.
@evanboll4651
@evanboll4651 2 жыл бұрын
@@mxn1948 That's more or less what's used for ship to ship combat in the Honor Harrington books.
@Fercurix
@Fercurix 2 жыл бұрын
@@forickgrimaldus8301 to add: SDI stood for Strategic Defense Initiative and was also nicknamed project Starwars
@The_Viscount
@The_Viscount 3 жыл бұрын
Edited for clarity. You're mostly right. While it is true that particle beams are kinetic weapons, they're actually similar to sand blasters. Yes, the individual grains of sand or particles erode the target physically, but they also heat up the target by means of lots of friction. In the end, much of the kinetic damage is turned to thermal damage at the impact site. So, while both lasers and particle guns operate under different principals, both damage their target similarly. In effect, the target itself is heated to the point where the surface melts or boils away. In the case of beams that cause explosions, you're actually heating the target so fast that the surface turns from solid to gas skipping the liquid phase. The amount of energy you need to do this is, predictably, very high, but the end result is that the impact site itself vaporizes. This means 2 things: 1, the material shot is weakened by the fact that there's less solid stuff. 2, the sudden transition of material from solid to gas means that the gas has a lot of energy and wants to expand outward. A sudden change in pressure causes a shockwave. The end effect is that the target's surface becomes a small explosive. This is why, despite lasers and particle guns having very little recoil and their..."projectiles" having very low mass, you can still result in impacts similar to if the target was shot with a conventional gun.
@mxn1948
@mxn1948 3 жыл бұрын
this exploding layer of gas however forms a very effective barrier preventing the layer below from taking more damage, kinda like a ablative shield.
@dinocha0s
@dinocha0s 3 жыл бұрын
15:32 "Formidable cyborgs" -Gets taken out by turrets I know they are pretty good but the timing he said it xd
@aliceturner8604
@aliceturner8604 3 жыл бұрын
There's so much lore that I never knew or it was to dense for me to read, thank you for your work making this great stuff available to all
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
" SILOS FULL "
@ArchCone
@ArchCone 3 жыл бұрын
So glad there are still people who talk about Command and Conquer lore.
@ErenisRanitos
@ErenisRanitos 3 жыл бұрын
came for C&C lore, got a free physix lesson in the bundle. love these videos. :)
@phantomwraith1984
@phantomwraith1984 3 жыл бұрын
*physics
@thyrussendria8198
@thyrussendria8198 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the design of the TW3 Ion Cannon satellites, it may be that the eight secondary beams are used, as was said in the video, to ionize the air in the target area to create a larger explosion while the Main beam does not require them to cause damage, as it was able to do so before in TW1 and 2
@dinocha0s
@dinocha0s 3 жыл бұрын
Came for the amazing lore as usual, learned that Particle canons/beams are not lazers lol
@friedaiceborn1663
@friedaiceborn1663 2 жыл бұрын
Other way around. Lasers (which, fun fact is a short form for light amplification by stimilated emission of radiation) is a partical weapon as photons are perticles.
@Flex_Nutts
@Flex_Nutts 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how you explain the science behind the weapons. I have so many memories of playing this game as a kid and watching these videos is so enjoyable and nostalgic. Keep up the great work.
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad your enjoying the videos! I know my science explanations aren't exactly the best but I like to give some context and inspiration behind some of the technology seen in the games.
@theATLASproject
@theATLASproject 4 ай бұрын
@@Jethild I use your videos on occasion to explain to people who have very little prior context how lasers and particle beams work. You're doing a lot better at the science explanations in your introductions than a lot of others making dedicated videos to educate their audience on directed energy weapons.
@keszachnyik8276
@keszachnyik8276 3 жыл бұрын
I fixed my old laptop today and the first thing I'm installing is the whole CnC games
@gndggqsq-rp5rj
@gndggqsq-rp5rj 3 жыл бұрын
Start with cnc generals
@NegiTaiMetal011
@NegiTaiMetal011 3 жыл бұрын
First, le me say welcome back Jethild. Good to see you back. This is another impressive work. For me, I like the Tiberium Wars Ion Cannon more as it is more powerful the way I see it.
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
Better than how it appears in Tiberium Sun- all those targeting lasers spinning in a circle that gets tighter and tighter, and then....BOOM ! Everything evaporates
@ionelstoica7082
@ionelstoica7082 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chino56751 i did not understand the physics of that. but it felt good when i was 11
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
@@ionelstoica7082 Circling lasers paint the target, while scorching and damaging it, so its softening for the main blast
@ThortheGodly
@ThortheGodly 3 жыл бұрын
A possible explanation for the shoulder mounted Ion cannon is battery burnout. I'd imagine that even if it recharges, the battery only has so much structural tenacity to it if you're pumping that much juice through such a small thing in rapid succession. The ammo count could be the battery running out of life rather than power.
@skaimask29
@skaimask29 3 жыл бұрын
When I was really young, I thought that the Ion cannon threw a bunch of smurfs at the speed of light and thats why the beam was blue. lol
@keisufederationmapping2748
@keisufederationmapping2748 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the scrin decimator or whatever (I haven’t played in months I forgot what unit it was) fired green grapes
@Chino56751
@Chino56751 3 жыл бұрын
The true definition of " Death from above !! "
@SupremeRTS
@SupremeRTS 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, love the lore
@zenthedying91
@zenthedying91 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta be honest. I actually did forgot about ya until you've popped up on my recommend feed again. I'm pretty damn happy on seeing ya again and uploading another c&c lore video. well anyways I know this comment will be drown and gone from the sea of comment section but I do hope for the best for you and I truly hope you continued on finding these tiny too large detail's of c&c universe until you've move on to the next game.
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be doing C&C lore videos for quite awhile. I could probably go the rest of the year doing only these kinds of videos and I'd still not get through all of the lore.
@skyvipers
@skyvipers 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until you hear thunder and see the hair on your arms start to stand up.
@clumpski
@clumpski 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what the actual difference was, because they go of roughly the same principle of acceleration. Makes sense! 😁👌
@nuke999170
@nuke999170 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that the things that are spinning, during the recharge cycle of the portable ion weapon, might be heat sinks or something simmilar.
@doggo_woo
@doggo_woo 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, we all know that the Tiberium Twilight is non-existant and all, but real question, how in the hell did GDI turn their ion cannon into a EMP + Ion combo? And, the ion control center even fired a beam up, as if they replaced the entire ion cannon defense network and turned it into a reflector network, similar to how the venoms could reflect lasers from beam cannons.
@carsonblok442
@carsonblok442 3 жыл бұрын
what's tiberium twilight
@Cybersharky_
@Cybersharky_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@carsonblok442 sounds like a NOD propaganda cartoon
@doggo_woo
@doggo_woo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cybersharky_ if I had to make a guess, I was probably very drunk when I made this comment. Tiberium twilight is most likely nod propaganda, what was I thinking...
@teutonicknight452
@teutonicknight452 3 жыл бұрын
My god your vids are great espacilly now that im playing GDI campign for the first time in my life in tib sun i am new but your vids make the game better with hard diffcilty i enjoey soooo much thank you next vid should be about nukes
@Corium1
@Corium1 3 жыл бұрын
"We don't use nukes." "In other news, we are happy to announce our new and inavative weapon of mass destruction! The Ion Cannon!"
@vagthegamer7429
@vagthegamer7429 3 жыл бұрын
well the thing is the gdi ion cannon does not leave long term damage to the area making it uninhabitable. Nukes leave tons of radiation behind. Basically nukes are a small chernobyl incident. the effects can stay there for more than 50 years in some designs, while the ion cannon is a particle based kinetic strike weapon, which apart from being cheaper and unable to be intercepted, also leave the area clean of radiation
@nodcommanderthe5823
@nodcommanderthe5823 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the efforts put into these videos, however, I am quite firmly of the opinion that gameplay quirks (Like weather changes in Renegade, or their extreme lacklustre power in especially Tiberian Dawn) are to be ignored as simple gameplay decisions. Same with it's inconsistency in C&C3 as you noted it fires differently in game compared to the cutscenes, yes both the Temple Prime and Scrin arrival cutscenes.
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. That's why I didn't try to explain why the weather change occurred in Renegade. Just stated that it did as part of the cannon's firing sequence. They're some things that are simply done for "gameplay reasons." In the case of the weather change, it acts as a greater visual cue for the player that an ion strike is about to occur. As well as just looking cool.
@terrapinflyer273
@terrapinflyer273 Жыл бұрын
The cinematic mishaps may have been simple production oversights. Or time crunches for adding visual effects. Really makes you wonder. Which came first, the gameplay or cinematics.
@user-rh5oq8vk4f
@user-rh5oq8vk4f 3 жыл бұрын
Good!
@MrAzkhare
@MrAzkhare 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the Merlin's "twirl around" might be the weapon venting heat. It is a shoulder-mounted particle accelerator, after all, and, now thinking about it, maybe radiation was a large part of why it was decommissioned. All in all, a greatly interesting video, as always.
@therealenderay5488
@therealenderay5488 3 жыл бұрын
i love these videos thanks for making them
@carsonblok442
@carsonblok442 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video.
@DonPandemoniac
@DonPandemoniac 3 жыл бұрын
These are very well made and edited, not to mention the information and details. Good work!
@smokeybear6093
@smokeybear6093 3 жыл бұрын
Once again another perfect video! Been waiting for a new one!
@kasper7574
@kasper7574 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on Nod Stealth and Cloaking technology.
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
I do plan to do a video on Nod stealth technology in the future.
@godfatherofbloedniss
@godfatherofbloedniss 3 жыл бұрын
finaly a new jethild video. and of very high quality as always. great work again :)
@ServantOfOdin
@ServantOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
I love your content. Well displayed and explained.
@inuboy867
@inuboy867 3 жыл бұрын
You are amazing, I love these videos, please keep going.
@simpeldisaster4533
@simpeldisaster4533 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I'm so glad you make these videos, I've been looking for good command and conquer lore for years.
@gdicommando4456
@gdicommando4456 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channels content buddy
@l0rf
@l0rf 3 жыл бұрын
You put more love for the CnC saga into one video than ea put into every game since Tiberian Sun.
@MythicTyrant
@MythicTyrant 2 жыл бұрын
Not only do I love the thought, lore, and science that went into this video, but your visual effects are top notch! You just earned yourself a sub. Keep up the amazing work!
@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK
@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK 3 жыл бұрын
Like with the LASER video, I very much appreciate how you go the extra mile to provide the real-world science behind these concepts and actually explain them in an easy to understand manner. 10/10!
@myriad9597
@myriad9597 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@Der_Arathok
@Der_Arathok 3 жыл бұрын
2021 starts very nicely
@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 3 жыл бұрын
Short but great. I love it
@Gokotti
@Gokotti 3 жыл бұрын
4:17 - Best ending credits.
@xenototheface
@xenototheface 3 жыл бұрын
Oh how I wish they'd remaster these games. Been waiting for more videos. Brilliant
@dylanswift5185
@dylanswift5185 3 жыл бұрын
... I think I have good news.
@RC-qv9in
@RC-qv9in 3 жыл бұрын
Meaning?
@Groza_Dallocort
@Groza_Dallocort 3 жыл бұрын
@@RC-qv9in Command & Conquer 1 Tiberium Dawn and Command & Conquer Red Alert have a remake on Steam
@xenototheface
@xenototheface 3 жыл бұрын
@@Groza_Dallocort unfortunately I don't have a PC anymore, I tend to play Ps4 when I can these days. I know the radial menu and such was a bit naff of other console games, but I made it work haha
@lcoop9351
@lcoop9351 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@grimloncz3853
@grimloncz3853 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love the idea of orbital ion cannons. Really good video too
@doggo_woo
@doggo_woo 3 жыл бұрын
Ion cannons could exist IRL too, except there's a law preventing the development of space based weapons.
@user-ro9zf9kz1h
@user-ro9zf9kz1h 3 жыл бұрын
@@doggo_woo You dont need that you just need a tungsten rod to perform orbital kinetic bombardment.
@doggo_woo
@doggo_woo 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ro9zf9kz1h These aren't tungsten based cannons. These super accelerate photons at their target, which is why they are mentioned to be "kinetic". Read here : 1:25 . And we already have a machine that does this, so if we could minimize it's size and stuff it on a satellite, then yes, you could have a ion cannon.
@user-ro9zf9kz1h
@user-ro9zf9kz1h 3 жыл бұрын
@@doggo_woo Kinetic bombardment is not tungsten based weapon, it is a kinetic based weapon, like a usual cannon shell, but instead of a chemical propellent propelling the shell forward, the tungsten rod is pulled by the earth's own gravitational field and gain kinetic energy, hence the name "kinetic bombardment".
@doggo_woo
@doggo_woo 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ro9zf9kz1h But these do not USE tungsten rods. They litterally super charge particles up and blast them at their target. Which is why GDI never really ever needs to re-arm the damn things, they always are recharging because of all those solar panels.
@mudscamp
@mudscamp 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man very EPIC
@brothers_of_nod
@brothers_of_nod Жыл бұрын
After having played through a few times, I still find there's plenty I do not know, and thank you for your videos.
@HitMeNot
@HitMeNot 3 жыл бұрын
Let me start of with nice video! Concerning the Merlin, I've got some theories on my own. Shots being limited by energy consumption maybe. Those charged particles need to be charged somehow. Also I always thought the spinning was a cooling mechanism. Love that you came up with some other theories (or if you didn't come up with them, found them). Anyway, keep up the great work!
@EgoEroTergum
@EgoEroTergum 3 жыл бұрын
Unlimited ammo doesn't mean unlimited battery charge.
@LAIHOCKCHUN
@LAIHOCKCHUN 3 жыл бұрын
What if it's an interpretation of barrel life? That's another explanation for having an ammo count.
@shantanusharma150
@shantanusharma150 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, lore time
@I_HopeThatNoOneHasThisName
@I_HopeThatNoOneHasThisName 3 жыл бұрын
0 dislikes and if someone ruins it he is not a human
@lcoop9351
@lcoop9351 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like there are 8 nonhumans. 😱
@I_HopeThatNoOneHasThisName
@I_HopeThatNoOneHasThisName 3 жыл бұрын
@@lcoop9351looks that they are animals or bugs
@xemex1807
@xemex1807 3 жыл бұрын
I love these vids
@Pooperz100
@Pooperz100 3 жыл бұрын
to think that this guy doesn't even have 10k subs is surprising
@RC-qv9in
@RC-qv9in 3 жыл бұрын
I agree -very surprising.
@guillermocaceres3854
@guillermocaceres3854 11 ай бұрын
This Channel is gold
@TheDude50447
@TheDude50447 3 жыл бұрын
In Tib Wars when Nod first uses particle beam weapons they appear to have a technological edge with GDI never having brought handheld versions to mass production. Since its significantly harder to create a very small particle beam weapon like we see in KW one can assume that the technological capability to build an ion canon type weapon is merely a matter of ressources for Nod.
@Battleship009
@Battleship009 3 жыл бұрын
Renegade has the Portable Ion Cannon.
@cheez3184
@cheez3184 2 жыл бұрын
Beacon*
@SirPandaEsq
@SirPandaEsq 3 жыл бұрын
I do love me some C&C lore. Anyone else here play RenegadeX? Lol
@dgamezonu2693
@dgamezonu2693 3 жыл бұрын
I have renegade x.
@nibbaburrito5754
@nibbaburrito5754 3 жыл бұрын
You should do rail weapon for your next videos.
@benbaker6221
@benbaker6221 3 жыл бұрын
Please do more lore videos on other C&C weapons!
@popattara
@popattara 3 жыл бұрын
Hungry for more
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 3 жыл бұрын
The destruction of the GDSS Philadelphia is kind of hilarious to me. You'd think they'd have anti-missile and anti-meteorite point defenses or something onboard.
@mbos14
@mbos14 3 жыл бұрын
Nop as far as i can remember a lot of control and i think even somebackup was on the ground. Also hubris in believing the ion cannons where enough.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 3 жыл бұрын
GDI Was also shifting its priorities before the 3rd War, with its military budget having been massively slashed and those funds and resources being redirected towards Tiberium elimination and civilian infrastructure. Add to that, it had been decades since anyone heard anything out of the Brotherhood of Nod, so there probably was an onboard ASAT system on the Philadelphia originally, but it was decommissioned in favor of the cheaper, more centralized control center at Goddard
@robertkalinic335
@robertkalinic335 3 жыл бұрын
Missile used their stealth tech and kane blessed it, solved.
@joshg8053
@joshg8053 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I remember, the GDSS Philadelphia had anti-missile defense, but the control for it was located on earth and was deactivated by Nod troops before they launched the nuke that destroyed the space station.
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshg8053 That seems like an extremely stupid way to design missile defenses considering there would likely be lag between the station and the base. I guess they just wanted a reason to start the war and made up the lore explanations later. After all, it's Command and Conquer, not Peace and Chill. You'd also think Nod could have developed and deployed anti-satellite lasers and just bwap the thing out of existence.
@RedScorpion92
@RedScorpion92 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ion canon you have there GDI be a shame if someone could hack it...
@hdezn26
@hdezn26 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it to some Nod creeper to do it.
@bigboss1199
@bigboss1199 3 жыл бұрын
For that you would need to go to a direct control hub and have an exceptionally skilled commander to breach their defenses, that's why you gain control of the Ion Cannon in tibdawn, as a Nod commander you attacket the Ion Cannon control hub and started the storyline of Twisted Insurrection
@EvilSmonker
@EvilSmonker 3 жыл бұрын
You are great man; im so thankful that this *dead* community has such a talented and passionate personality.
@3arooshy465
@3arooshy465 3 жыл бұрын
Whats next? I think maybe you can make a video that the black hand confessor cabal squads weapon that shoots the “Charged Particle Beam” that u can get by an upgrade Maybe the Charged Particle Beam doesn’t need an entire video since it looks like the GDI Beam And I remember you explaining me how it works on the Nod laser technology video I don’t know if you remember... anyway, awesome video as always 👍 I’m one of your first 200 subscribers And I really try to support u as hard as i can and I can’t support you anymore than subscribing and liking and sharing... keep it up❤️
@JanJansen985
@JanJansen985 3 жыл бұрын
1:55 Thanks for showing off the sick looking pipe lol
@unnameduser6684
@unnameduser6684 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I love the ion cannon, most fun superweapon ever. (Although not a big roster, fun idea: superweapons in video games)
@FluffySylveonBoi
@FluffySylveonBoi 3 жыл бұрын
The Ion Cannon keeps getting more powerful. In the first game, it was strong indeed, but lacked the area of effect while Nod had the nukes. This is compensated by airstrikes, combination of these and the Ion Cannon is deadly. Now the Ion Cannon is a massive threat. But I admit that even in Tiberian Sun GDI doesn't have an advantage over Nod, as they have their own missiles, even two kinds of them, and just as devastating. Chemical one possibly even more if targeted right. (and they steal Ion Cannon anyway if you play Nod) Ion Cannon was stronger in this game than before, but still not as strong as in third. that one is almost on par with a nuke when it comes ot area of effect, but recharges faster.
@ChemFrogEngels
@ChemFrogEngels 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention, that scrin also used particle beams in their weaponry. Most obvious - Annihilatior tripod, disintegrators and devourer tank. Their beams look like, that they're ion based. Also weapons with short waves of particles - gun walker, stormrider, unupgraded shock troopers, planetary assault carrier.
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
I was always under the impression that the Scrin weapons were primarily plasma based, including their beam weapons.
@ChemFrogEngels
@ChemFrogEngels 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jethild I've read an hour ago, that this is true for stormrider and thus, apparently, for PAC, walker and shocks. But plasma cannot be beamed, this is impossible, as I know. So, I think, that scrin beam weapons are ion based.
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChemFrogEngels Interesting. I'll have to look into it more when I get around to doing more videos on the Scrin.
@ismaelsantos5378
@ismaelsantos5378 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChemFrogEngels "What the hell is that?!" "It looks like some kinda localized ion storm!" "But that is impossible!" "Tell that to the aliens!" GDI troops witnessing Scrin Storm Columns.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 6 ай бұрын
Coming back to this in 2024 and let me just say the Generals Evolution mod has gorgeous Particle Cannon effects.
@EnzoLay_TheUmbraPonyGuardian
@EnzoLay_TheUmbraPonyGuardian 2 жыл бұрын
that Ion Cannon explosion at the end was so satisfying XD i love to use it especially since it's so brutal
@twentyeightstabwounds7761
@twentyeightstabwounds7761 3 жыл бұрын
6 dislikes are from fanatics of Brotherhood
@EvilSmonker
@EvilSmonker 3 жыл бұрын
WE ARE THE HAND OF NOD!
@ColdEvil
@ColdEvil 3 жыл бұрын
Love your lore videos! They are really informative and give a good perspective of the c&c world. I have a question: after the collapse of the Soviet Union at the start of the tiberium dawn what are your perspective on the world stage regards to nation states in europe and the rest of the world. Love to hear a input! /Mod Developer for C&C mod for Hearts of Iron 4
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's difficult to get a good idea on what happened between RA and Tiberian Dawn. Since it really depends on which faction you believe is the canon victor from RA. I think if the Allies are the victors then the world stage remains similar to our real world geopolitically speaking. If the Soviet Union is the victors then things get more complicated as even if Kane collapses the Soviet Union I don't think that the world stage would just go back to being like our real world. Then again personally I don't think it makes sense for Kane to collapse the Soviet Union to begin with. Would have been much easier for him to take over Africa in TD if he hadn't done that. Either way it probably warrants a video on the topic in the future.
@harithhakimi5285
@harithhakimi5285 Жыл бұрын
hot damn, i'm trying to study but here i am learning about particle beam weapons from a game💀 these videos are too damn interesting
@nukeplatine
@nukeplatine 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw I clicked 🤩
@rng8899
@rng8899 Жыл бұрын
I'm... surprised by the actually accurate description of particle beams (and, for that matter, lasers) and how they inflict damage. That's far rarer than it should be in science fiction, particle beams especially. Only error of sorts would be beam neutralisation, which while being a real thing, isn't something an ion cannon would do (hence the name; charged particles). And which is, remarkably enough, accurate - while a neutral particle beam is optimal in a vacuum to prevent the particles from repelling each other, a charged particle beam is ideal in an atmosphere, as the charged particles repel atmospheric molecules and thus actually maintain greater beam cohesion by avoiding direct collisions. Requires a minimum of air density to work (altitude below 200 km) but the lowest orbiting satellite on record did it at 180 km, so it's just barely manageable. (Nielsen, Effects of Directed Energy Weapons, 1994, just a year before the original C&C's release. Hmm...)
@clarkisaac6372
@clarkisaac6372 Жыл бұрын
The Alien Scrin's rift generator is an even more deadly and highly advanced super weapon, it can temporarily create a massive black hole with an extremely intense vortex moving around it, tearing nearby units and structures apart and soaking almost everything into it. As top GDI engineers on the ion cannon project had described their own superweapon as the product in the ancient world when it's compared to the Alien's.
@vagthegamer7429
@vagthegamer7429 3 жыл бұрын
4:41 "which saw gdi and nod forces, engaged in Mortal Kombat" ROUND 1 FIGHT!!!
@SapphirosCZ
@SapphirosCZ Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt say particle weapons do only kinetic damage. As particles travel through the air the friction will result in decent heat buildup, thats why they light up and why you can see burns after Ion Cannon hit.
@VegarotFusion
@VegarotFusion 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the Ion Cannon for the first time in C&C 3 was freaking awesome. It turned it from a meh, it's okay I guess. To a real super weapon and something that's just a lot of fun to use. When I played verses AI skirmishes with my 2 other friends. We would do simultaneous triple Ion Cannon shots on one of the enemy AI's base. With luck we could wipe them out or cripple beyond repair in an instant. Which was always so good. One moment they're a fully operational Hard AI in the middle of launching an attack on one of us and in one giant flash of blue light nothing. Oh wait no look it's their harvester returning from the fields.
@NodzergHorde1997
@NodzergHorde1997 3 жыл бұрын
Down With GDI!
@filipwyberg
@filipwyberg Жыл бұрын
in fact the hadron collider in Cern is rebuilt already as a defence weapon. ready to be used. and now they are planning to install the same prototype on the moon.
@killerinstinct46
@killerinstinct46 3 жыл бұрын
First! Love the vids!
@crabohato4954
@crabohato4954 Жыл бұрын
9:32 These 8 beams may actually be lasers. Basically, their function might be to just ionize the air to create a tunnel made up of plasma. So when the actual particle beam is shot down, the tunnel ends up conducting the beam like a wire, and preventing it from spreading. This is essentially the same logic behind an electrolaser, another weapon that uses lasers to ionize air. Except an electrolaser shoots electricity instead of subatomic particles.
@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega
@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega 2 жыл бұрын
when i play tiberian sun, i always like to use the ini files to modify the mammoth mark 2 to fire lasers instead of railguns (railguns have so much terrain issues), i then make the lasers light blue and pretent they are ion cannons
@0megasight
@0megasight Жыл бұрын
I think a reason that the firing sequence is faster against the scrin ships could be that the slower firing causes damage over a much larger area, and that’s not really needed against the scrin transports. GDI command is trying to destroy them quickly, assuming that a single powerful blast will do the job. They’d be right too, if the scrin ships weren’t to some degree designed to counter that strategy directly
@auroraborealissaltmineswarlord
@auroraborealissaltmineswarlord 11 ай бұрын
not just that, there is no air to ionize in space so no need to use the smaller beams to prepare the air beforehand
@-db4rf
@-db4rf 3 жыл бұрын
That was badass to destroy the philly station like that..😯
@stylesrj
@stylesrj Жыл бұрын
Huh, I assumed that the Ion Cannon actually would be using some sort of laser technology; you heat up the air with a laser so the ion beam can be channeled at the target. You can probably skip that step when firing at enemy spaceships or you don't need as much energy put into the laser channel? Maybe the Portable Ion Cannon's "ammunition" is the battery life and after firing each shot you vent the heat.
@emperorkane317
@emperorkane317 3 жыл бұрын
So, basically, the Partical Cannon is a Particle Shotgun
@eddiedelgado60
@eddiedelgado60 2 жыл бұрын
This is making me want to play Renegade.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 3 ай бұрын
Even if the initial impact did not work out as intended, I suspect the Scrin were more than a bit surprised when closing in on a world they thought cleared of life had satellites that started to fire particle beam weapons at them and then would continue to do so on the ground.
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 3 жыл бұрын
I remember some lore saying that Tiberium, and I think specifically blue Tiberium was instrumental in the development of Ion and other charged particle weaponry. Not sure if it was something to do with it providing enough energy to make it practical or if the weapons actually use Tiberium particles as "ammunition"
@doggo_woo
@doggo_woo 3 жыл бұрын
If that were true, GDI would have to regularly send tiberium to space to reload their Ion Cannons. Not very practical if you ask me.
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 3 жыл бұрын
@@doggo_woo yeah, that's why I think the power supply angle is more plausible, of course same problem, eventually someone has to go replace the fuel cells but GDI's space program is pretty top notch. I'll have to see if I can remember which intel file it was in 3.
@doggo_woo
@doggo_woo 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordfrostwind3151 Blue tiberium was used to develop sonic tech, which would then be able to detonate even more tiberium.
@YuriYoshiosan
@YuriYoshiosan 3 жыл бұрын
*RA3 Proton Collider is the same, with chain reaction, built on Earth, and with slower particles instead*
@fenrirsrage4609
@fenrirsrage4609 Жыл бұрын
Honestly we need a Commando variant carrying the Merlin and Godsend, maybe a Subfaction focused on Ion Technology Advancement.
@amirhaikal8304
@amirhaikal8304 2 жыл бұрын
the only way i can think of why the shoulder mounted particle cannon has a some sort of ammo is because it may have a limited amount of Charge in it and requires a constant exchange of energy sources like changing a battery
@MisterCrow9
@MisterCrow9 3 жыл бұрын
I love Tiberium Sun and Firestorm.
@zebjensen4251
@zebjensen4251 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't charged particle guns also generate crazy heat? Also zoids use them, they take in air from the atmosphere and then fire the particles like a fire hose.
@ChannelBerpindah
@ChannelBerpindah 3 жыл бұрын
Kontent about GDI tiberium dawn rocket technology please ? Mammoth tanks, advanced guard tower, orcas.
@Jethild
@Jethild 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have plans for videos for some of the topics you mentioned.
@ChannelBerpindah
@ChannelBerpindah 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jethild nice man. I'll be waiting. Btw great kontent u have.
@roberthudson5363
@roberthudson5363 2 жыл бұрын
4:45 I hate that I can't stop thinking about that.
@spartainwarrior6445
@spartainwarrior6445 Жыл бұрын
1:27, technically it can electrocute as well due to the particles being charged
@sheilaolfieway1885
@sheilaolfieway1885 Жыл бұрын
ironic how every tiberium war was ended by an ion cannon to the same temple.....
@stylesrj
@stylesrj Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Tib War 2 ended with a pole through Kane's chest in a pyramid?
@chenli9778
@chenli9778 2 жыл бұрын
strange thing is although Nod can fit their soldiers, well, the elite ones at least, with personal Particle Beam weapon, and base defense weapon and at least an airborne version, they didn't develop Vehicle version...
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