1996 Jockey Club Gold Cup + Post Race

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13 жыл бұрын

Skip Away, Cigar, Louis Quatorze, Editor's Note and others battle it out..

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@joechrow8341
@joechrow8341 4 жыл бұрын
Skip Away was a Legit Champion during his Prime who could have competed with Some of the Great Horses of this Sport in my opinion...His tactical Speed and brute force and power bounding through the stretch of his races were Top Level...Owners had to put up 480,000 to enter him in the 1997 Classic and that was a very smart and confident investment...Blew the doors off the Field...Skip Away was the real deal and will always be in my memories of Champions of this Sport...Beautiful looking horse also
@question_it_701
@question_it_701 Жыл бұрын
I would agree. Many horses....didn't hold their top for as long as others, so it is held against them. But during their top form. Skip Away was as good as horse in the past 40 years when he was at his best. I put Rachel Alexandra in this category at least as far as fillies go. During her best, I'd say she was better than Zenyatta at her best.
@bishlap
@bishlap 5 жыл бұрын
Skippy had the greatest stride I've seen in person.
@mohicanprize
@mohicanprize 11 жыл бұрын
What a race and what a call by Tom Durkin
@JIM87ification
@JIM87ification 7 жыл бұрын
2 of the Best Horses in the last 30 years. I was at Belmont that day. Thanks for posting.
@joechrow8341
@joechrow8341 5 жыл бұрын
Easy Goer....Skip Away and Cigar were Awesome...Both would be destroying Fields today
@wizard9403
@wizard9403 5 жыл бұрын
@@joechrow8341 Without a doubt!!!
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 4 жыл бұрын
Holy Bull - Cigar - Skip Away
@Caroni100
@Caroni100 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielSong39 And don't forget Easy Goer and Sunday Silence 🏆 Best regards from Venezuela 🇻🇪
@question_it_701
@question_it_701 Жыл бұрын
@@joechrow8341 They'd destroy many fields, yes. We tend to look at that era as a "better horse racing era" --and I wholeheartedly agree. The 70s was the golden era. The 80s were great. I MIGHT even put the 90s ahead of the 1980s. Problem now, is that horses are raced to be bred, instead of bred to be raced. So with that, we look at the horses now as "not as good". The reason why, is that they don't get "embedded" in our minds, because the best horses now race about 6-9 races and are then retired. I know your post is 3 years old as of now, but the one horse from "now" (who was also raced to be bred) is/was Flightline. Based on many accounts from experts, he is as good as Secretariat. Also...look at Spectacular Bid's race record. 30: 26-2-1 . Cigar as good as he was....wasn't close to that. No one was. The last horse that I have great respect for the owners....was California Chrome. They raced him. They didn't coddle him. He raced vs the best there was, and more often than not...he won. We need more owners like that.
@harveyvail20
@harveyvail20 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite races of all time. Shane is my friend and I was screaming when they beat Cigar.😊
@jonhaynes1577
@jonhaynes1577 4 жыл бұрын
Both Cigar and Skip Away were great horses in there time every horse runs in there time and each were best in there time
@mikewarren1401
@mikewarren1401 3 жыл бұрын
Except super horses are best of anytime!!! Big Red of 73’
@jpmato920
@jpmato920 12 жыл бұрын
passing the torch
@dancesmartly1
@dancesmartly1 12 жыл бұрын
This was always a tough race for me to watch as my 2 favs of that era ( and of most eras) were/are Cigar and Skip Away! Thanks again for all these great vids!!
@lkmorgan1959
@lkmorgan1959 3 жыл бұрын
Skippy was a Beast as well. Love both these Champions.
@HASGOTHORSE
@HASGOTHORSE 13 жыл бұрын
You just don't see races like this anymore
@annamariayannetta242
@annamariayannetta242 Жыл бұрын
Skip Away 🐎 is a full brother to my horse❤, what a great race 5:36 🐎♥️🌹
@ecology1st
@ecology1st 4 жыл бұрын
Bailey did not turn Cigar loose early enough. Cost Cigar the win. Cigar was also carrying 5 more pounds than Skip away here. Plus Cigar was old now and had possibly lost a step or two, although the 5 pounds and Baileys mistake mainly were the difference in this one.
@superemperador1
@superemperador1 3 жыл бұрын
He had to give away 5! Skippy was a colt! Loui quatorze soften him up and stillll cigar couldn’t get by !
@question_it_701
@question_it_701 Жыл бұрын
Or Skip Away was just better this day. So many will always dig and scratch for an excuse. One isn't always needed.
@bloodlineblease1960
@bloodlineblease1960 4 жыл бұрын
When cigar hook that curve he reminds me of alysheeba. Great race he ran bia heart out.
@tubeyhamster
@tubeyhamster 11 жыл бұрын
Skip Away had Cigar's number, all right.
@joechrow8341
@joechrow8341 4 жыл бұрын
Skip Away was a Great Top Rival for Anyone during his Prime...Makes me think of How Good Formal Gold was Turning into before he retired
@JIM87ification
@JIM87ification 3 жыл бұрын
Formal Gold was an excellent horse that beat Skip away several times in 1997
@david1044
@david1044 2 ай бұрын
little did they know, That Skip Away would roll off another 9 grade 1's, including the fastest Breeders Cup in its history. This race was one of the last races where 2 real, weight carrying champions met. A real changing of the guard from one to another.
@beast13284
@beast13284 11 жыл бұрын
3 things mahogany hall was gorgeous. cigar was a ridiculous price off a gimme woodward and kudos to skippy-tough as nails
@Caroni100
@Caroni100 2 жыл бұрын
Skip Away (April 4, 1993 - May 14, 2010) * Sire: Skip Trail * Grandsire: Bailjumper * Dam: Ingot Way * Damsire: Diplomat Way * Sex: Stallion * Breeder: Anna Maria Barnhart * Owner: Carolyn Hine (R.I.P.) * Trainer: Hubert "Sonny" Hine (R.I.P.) * Jockeys: Shane Sellers Jerry Bailey Jose Santos Mike Smith * 38 Starts * 18 Wins * 10 Seconds * 8 Thirds * $ 9,616,360 earned (Current $ 15,528,900) * 1996 United States Champion 3 Year-Old Colt * 1997 & 1998 United States Champion Older Male Horse * 1998 United States Horse of the Year * Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 2004 * Number 32 in The Bloodhorse Magazine "Top United States 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century List" * Skip Away Handicap at Gulstream Park (Since 2001) * Skip Away at Monmouth Park * Rest In Peace, Champion! We´ll never forget you! * Greetings from Venezuela Skip Away (4 de Abril, 1993 - 14 de Mayo, 2010) * Padre: Skip Trail * Abuelo paterno: Bailjumper * Madre: Ingot Way * Abuelo materno: Diplomat Way * Sexo: Semental * Breeder: Anna Maria Barnhart * Owner: Carolyn Hine (Q.E.P.D.) * Trainer: Hubert "Sonny" Hine (Q.E.P.D.) * Jinetes: Shane Sellers Jerry Bailey José Santos Mike Smith * 38 Salidas * 18 Primeros * 10 Segundos * 8 Terceros * $ 9,616,360 producidos ($ 15,528,900 actuales) * Potro Campeón Tresañero en Estados Unidos 1996 * Caballo Campeón Maduro en Estados Unidos 1997 & 1998 * Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1998 * Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2004 * Número 32 en en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX en Estados Unidos" por la revista The Bloodhorse * Skip Away Handicap en el Hipódromo Gulstream Park (Desde 2001) * Skip Away en el Hipódromo Monmouth Park * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Nunca te olvidaremos! * Saludos desde Venezuela
@sgc1234
@sgc1234 12 жыл бұрын
Hey Partymanners! Thank you so much for all your great videos. Do you have skip away's 1997 jcgc win? If u do, please upload it! regards
@petergoodelle291
@petergoodelle291 Жыл бұрын
Love Skippy
@callmeishmael4659
@callmeishmael4659 3 жыл бұрын
Why did Paulson and trainer Mott settle for the 130 lb jock Bailey on Cigar? Does anyone know why he constantly carried that extra weight?
@charlesdavis7523
@charlesdavis7523 3 жыл бұрын
Handicap races require that horses carry an assigned weight. Cigar win 16 races in a row. He was assigned the high weight it wouldn't have mattered who ride him. He would have been required to carry 130 lbs
@joechrow8341
@joechrow8341 4 жыл бұрын
Skip Away and Cigar were Both still Great During this Race during their Careers but they both were not at their "Highest Level" as they used to be...Still feel Prime vs Prime Skip Away would have Held off Cigar in Stretch...Cigar had that Legendary 16 to 17 Race Win Streak but Skip Away was JUST as Good as Cigar Prime to Prime...Skip Away would have had the Pace edge like he had in this Race
@question_it_701
@question_it_701 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, in their prime, Skip was at least equal to Cigar.
@ronsmac
@ronsmac 3 жыл бұрын
After being too close to a fast pace at Del mar, Bailey was gun shy in the Gold cup.
@breanneduesler9827
@breanneduesler9827 12 жыл бұрын
Louis Quatorze is my horses father!!!
@JIM87ification
@JIM87ification 7 жыл бұрын
Louis Quatorze was also a excellent horse. He was always tough as nails.
@annamariayannetta242
@annamariayannetta242 Жыл бұрын
I was there!!!!!!!!❤ 8:04
@wizard9403
@wizard9403 5 жыл бұрын
He got beat fairly by the 3 year old champion who went on to become a great race horse, case closed!!!
@joechrow8341
@joechrow8341 6 жыл бұрын
2 Great horses...Personally i always felt Skip Away was better than Cigar while both at their peak
@wizard9403
@wizard9403 5 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with you, Cigar just never impressed me.
@brianclark1858
@brianclark1858 6 жыл бұрын
Too far back early. That big move was way to long.
@wizard9403
@wizard9403 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think Bailey figured on Skippy being as game as he was.
@guardiaguardia3017
@guardiaguardia3017 Жыл бұрын
Jerry Bailey blew it, on Cigar llast 3 defeats. On the Paciffic Classic he went to fast too soon, on this race he went too slow and on the Breeders Cup, he went too wide.
@jonhaynes1577
@jonhaynes1577 5 жыл бұрын
Do not know how anybody can say skip Away was so much better than Cigar and how over rated Cigar was . all i can say 16 in a row and a UNDEFEATED season i rest my case
@joechrow8341
@joechrow8341 4 жыл бұрын
Most people dont say he was MUCH better...Only a few ignorant people say that...Skip Away and Cigar BOTH were Powerhouses in their prime...Skip away had the tactical speed advantage and Cigar was not at his absolute BEST during this race...But Skip away also got BETTER after this race
@aydnbakr7608
@aydnbakr7608 6 жыл бұрын
SUPER IKILER HORSE CIGAR VE SKIP AWAY SAMPIYON
@terrifictroll1916
@terrifictroll1916 7 жыл бұрын
Cigar was a great horse..great winning streak..but Skip Away was a better horse in my opinion..Easy Goer was probably the best horse out of them all though
@richardhartley5629
@richardhartley5629 7 жыл бұрын
Terrific Troll Sunday Silence was better than the ridiculously overrated Easy Goer.
@kevinmichael686
@kevinmichael686 7 жыл бұрын
Terrific Troll Cigar gave Skip Away five pounds, that was the difference here, two great horses, though.
@ericberend2039
@ericberend2039 5 жыл бұрын
@Ved Valmyr Beaten twice on a Curchill Downs wet strip that his hooves floated over and never grabbed. Pat Day on his knees begging Shug to still be allowed to ride Easy. Three Grade I route wins over older horses (first time in over 90 years). Fastest 3yo mile ever. I think not, fanboi. Take the homer glasses from over your eyes and realize that the 8 length drubbing Easy gave SS in the Belmont, was a truer measure of the difference between the two horses than was a mere nose, neck or head margin, in the end. Same thing with Moan O'War devotees, as great as that horse was. His owner Sam Riddle DUCKED Exterminator TWICE.
@wizard9403
@wizard9403 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmichael686 Skip Away was only a 3 year old so he got a break in weight! Bailey didn't realize that Skip Away would outgame his horse!
@glenscott1089
@glenscott1089 4 жыл бұрын
@@wizard9403 can you up looad the 97 jc gold cup
@ramairluvr
@ramairluvr 12 жыл бұрын
@dancesmartly1 Ditto here, dancesmartly...
@jaac2309
@jaac2309 7 жыл бұрын
When Cigar faced superior runners, he didn´t look like "that super horse". He lost all those races while facing real top horses like Skip Away. Please, if I´m wrong, tell me the name of a very good horse Cigar had defeated. Hey, Holy Bull doesn´t count
@billross6013
@billross6013 5 жыл бұрын
THATS WHAT I SAID OVER 20 YEARS AGO
@superemperador1
@superemperador1 3 жыл бұрын
Skippy was always better
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 6 жыл бұрын
Cigar drifted in the deep stretch. Didn't have enough to catch Skip Away...
@nickyd.4695
@nickyd.4695 Жыл бұрын
Simply put, if you didn't have the mortgage money on Skip Away, you deserved to lose.
@gustavojaramillo5978
@gustavojaramillo5978 5 жыл бұрын
Ghostzapper would beat them all!
@wizard9403
@wizard9403 5 жыл бұрын
Zapper was an extremely fast horse.
@herecomesforego1787
@herecomesforego1787 2 жыл бұрын
zap and red yes fast super fast but leave the greatness to the geldings
@question_it_701
@question_it_701 Жыл бұрын
On the right day, yes. He was as good as Skippy and Cigar. But to make a blanket statement like that....makes you sound dumb.
@TheDarkAntares
@TheDarkAntares 2 жыл бұрын
Cigars late losses in his career didn’t really tarnish his legacy at all. He was right there in every race except the pacific classic where Bailey admits he misjudged the ride.
@E_M_FEN
@E_M_FEN 3 жыл бұрын
Jerry Bailey lost this race. Waited too long to advance. Case closed.
@question_it_701
@question_it_701 Жыл бұрын
Bailey just not as good of as a jockey as you. If they'd have let you ride, he'd have won. Right Manny?
@fgyuighjhvuhhgggjihm
@fgyuighjhvuhhgggjihm 11 жыл бұрын
Cigar = OVERRATED
@jonhaynes1577
@jonhaynes1577 3 жыл бұрын
How can anyone in their right mind say 16 in a row, overrated you cant
@richardhartley5629
@richardhartley5629 7 жыл бұрын
Cigar was the most overrated horse of the 1990's. Easy Goer was the most overrated horse of the 1980's.
@thehealthychefri
@thehealthychefri 6 жыл бұрын
Like you, overrated!
@question_it_701
@question_it_701 Жыл бұрын
Dumb comment.
@ronaldclatterbuck5953
@ronaldclatterbuck5953 11 ай бұрын
Yea and you are the stupidest person in the room...
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