I hope I can love anything as much as Mortismal loves Pathfinder: WOTR

The lich is about the friends we "Made" along the way.

Cosmic Judge Dredd is the most bad ass description ever. Sign me up.

The true Aeon ending has the most badass and uncompromising dialog option in any crpg I have ever played: [Cease to exist]

One of the few games that allowed me to play as a lich, which automatically make it my number 1 mythic path. Few of the things that made me like this path are, The fact throughout the the game I kept trying to be lawful evil playing as a lich, I had to justify my choices as I am saving people by dealing with demons using already dead soldiers, in return I am not making more casualities. In addition, people had to do shining crusade against you at the end if you stay in your castle after dealing with the demons. Which was a satisfying end to me.

When I first played I was the angel path, and I thought that the herald of the inheritor was set up specifically for that path, and I thought to myself "wow they did a different herald and story for EACH path" but I just happened to pick the most thematically appropriate one for the set part of the story :D

Currently replaying Wrath with Azata and completely agreed that the Devil option there constantly seems... Bizarre? Like Early Sunset is there just suggesting you do non-Azata stuff basically just because and doesn't even bother learning the song. It would have almost made more sense to have that temptation on the Angel path and try to have those whispers pulling you towards the strict law aspect of that approach.

2:15 omg the Swarm's interaction with Aivu is probaly the most evil thing you can do in the game :O

I still think Angel path is the best, making Deskari shit itself in fear and burning random hells with holy fire was awesome!

Such a strange take; Lich is AMAZING for Melee as well; so many abilities that boost it as well as spells such as Vampiric Blade. I respectively disagree.

Yeah gold dragon is my favorite, I actually really enjoyed the process you go through to transform and actually being able to be a true dragon is very cool.

Azata was my first playtrough, because Chaotic Good just resonates with me, and I kinda regret it. Mostly because, I can't really see me playing anything else. I wanted to try Lich but quickly lost interest in being evil, Trickster still got an "Maybe" for my next playtrough... but I can't really imagine not being able to tell Aivu that she is my greatest Treasure.

Can we get recomended class/build for each mythic path. It would be helpfull for begginers

I remember at one point the Aeon is facing an army of demons in Drezen and essentialy declares them all illegal immigrants and deports them all back to the Abyss. And you're right about the Angel path being the most fleshed out. It even has voice acting specific to it.

I’ve completely bg3, pathfinder wotr and I’m pretty much done rogue trader. You’ve made me see the CRPG side of life and I thank you for it Mortym!!

Absolutely agree with Azata. It is so content rich from the floating base, follower recruitment, healing the land, and everything with Aivu. People often overlook the value of Aivu when comparing power levels, as well as the value of sharing teamwork feats and giving your whole party extra feat points as a result. It's not just about outflank, allied spellcaster and tandem trip for all your pets are really nice to have. An Azata individual is not as strong as Lich or Angel, but I'd argue a team with Azata can be just as strong as a Lich or Angel team.

Wow, Aeon in the middle. I thought Aeon was peak or maybe 2nd due to it beig a really good story/one of the paths that actually felt complete

May you walk in wisdom!

I am currently in Act 3 of my second playthrough and I LOVE hearing u talk about the game :)

Angel mechanics, especially if you merge spells, are so disgustingly strong that I have to give it number one.

Aeon ending is definetly my favourite ending in the game especially the true aeon (with romanceable arushel). But stopping stauton and the swarm guy from becoming evil, saving terendelev and defeating arch devil - this path definietly have the most "power moments"

Love your takes, man. Especially your focus on the roleplay/thematic writing of each, as opposed to just power mechanics! Azata was my first path, so love seeing it get some love. Now, back to my dhampir angel. May you wander in wisdom!

All the paths are dank imo, but Aeon easily has the best theme. Shit made me feel like i was going to the astral plane

My only finished playthrough was the Lich (game is way too long for me). Started with a Wizard, was very intrigued by the Lich mythic path. But roleplay-wise, I couldn't let go. Becoming a full Lich felt so wrong. So thank you game for the Legend mythic path. Going full caster with merged Lich Spellbook into full fighter was a blast. Literally. And I really like the sentiment of a Wizard searching for the ultimate power, only to discover that his humanity was more important to him. So he picks up the sword, something completely new to him, realizes his wasted talents, fights with sword and sorcery against hell itself and then just dies as a human.

I played Azata to Chapter 5 and it was amazing. Currently doing a witch lich and I enjoy it to, but I am currently in Chapter 3.

Some good news! The games for PS+ extra in July have leaked and Pathfinder: WotR is on there! Finally I’ll get a chance to play it for myself, as I’m sure many others will too (hopefully directing even more people to your channel!)

The ranking I wanted! Thank you, Mortismal!

The evil paths are so satisfying in this game. Demon's amazing rise to power story, Lich's power over life and death of their soldiers and companions, Devil being the necessary evil in that you dont lose your allies and Swarm being the strongest build ive ever created in game (Lich melee into Swarm = huge AC with a massive attack range and lifesteal x5 with clones)

I finally beat the game for the first time an Azata all the way through was super fun. I love Aivu and the whole freedom aspect of the path :)

I am doing my first play-through as Azata, but now I definitely want to go thru again as Lich and Demon. Thank you for the video!

You’ve been spoiling us this week my man

Lich makes an amazing MONK. I build a Dragon Monk with a lvl of Sorc with AC = CHA. Eventually your unarmed attacks HEAL you with spells.

I'm playing WOTR for the first time now, so perfect timing with these videos

True aeon ending made me (a grown up man) cry.

From a story and interest perspective, it's a fair list. I personally love Lich and can't really stand Azata sillyness, but all of the points that you made are fair.

Thanks for the video. I think you went beyond video essay with this, and made some gaming culture. Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.

A spot-on ranked list of the mythic paths.

IMHO, the Angel path had my favourite story, theme, roleplay, and gameplay mechanics/power

I gotta bring myself and start a brand new playtrough as a Lich... I was always very interested in that type of roleplay

Always great content ❤

Legend roleplay ftw!

Still waiting for Gold Dragon reworked, need quest and ability buff seriously. if ...there's still possibility.

I just finished with Trickster and I really loved it. First play-through.

While Legend is not the best Myhtic path, it has the best theme. Master of my own fate is one of my favourite ost in RPG's

Azata, Angel, and Lich are definitely my favorites. Azata specifically because I enjoy bards and bard fits PERFECTLY with the entire Azata theme, as does a feyspeaker druid (which I also enjoy).

Demon was my first choice in my first playthrough, and i dont regret it. Turning things upside down, as tou said, was its charm, and i had a blast playing it. It was only a shame i didnt find out at the time that if i accepted Nocticula's gift it would be 3x harder to beat her, so i just became her second in comand instead. Demonic teleportation was a remarkable skill for me, because i remember well that in the fight against Jerrybeth (dont remember the name exactly) had a very high AC, so i just spammed Demonic teleportation until he died lol.

Personal favorites are Angel and Azata as I usually go for the good alignments with Dragon currently still missing that content and never just having found the fun combination for Legend. Still I really like the alternative paths as those choices add a richness to the gameplay with Trickster being the only one that really doesn't even conceptually land for me. Funnily I think the Trickster path is the victim of what I am critical of in the Mythic path implementation as there is really one way to be on that path from a narrative perspective. This is understandable as resources are limited, but if you are a demon, you are forced to be evil and so forth. Which becomes a really big issue with the Trickster as they are this chaotic force, but because of that it ends up self-fulfilling chaos instead of really allowing the player to define a force for what.

I finished this game with most mythic paths, except Azata. Started a playthrough with fir that yesterday. So far i tend to regularly return to this game to play another mythic path. Awesome storytelling especially taking account the quantum or story arcs that are implemented

My first playthrough was Trickster, and I banish that drunk from the start. So my experience was way less silly. You have to admit that transform the Wound in the Universe's Crossroad is the best idea to an "unclosable gate". You can even "trick" the ending to let the Crossroad become an open PVP area or become an Interplanes Mall

Good stuff, thank you!

Love your content! In the future, will you make a video about the story of each mythic path?

I finished my first playthrough earlier this year, went Sylvan Sorcerer into Merged Lich and decided to get the SDG achievement too because why not and suceeded I might add. I absolutely loved the roleplaying aspect as I was going for a character who values love and friendship but ultimately values power more and in the end when pushed to choose between them will pick power everytime. The allure of "true freedom" to do whatever I desire take what I want slay whomever I want and take whatever I want was my raison d'etre and while I would prefer to take my friends to the top with me if they don't want in or get in the way so be it, actually achieving the Secret Ending with that character was so perfect for that as even the gods themselves could no longer bind me and the characters I managed to keep along the way ascended with me while those who betrayed their commander or who were neccessary sacrifices for power did not, making it simultaneously one of the most glorious and satisfying victories in any interactive story while simultaneously feeling hollow as I grew to miss the comrades and lovers that I betrayed along the way. I sorta modeled the character off of Bloody Harry and was shocked at how perfectly it fit the roleplaying of the lich path, and all that's just story praise. Mechanically it's an absolute blast too 6 unique party members, 2 of which are probably the best preset characters in the game, the Corrupt Magic spell and all the undead immunities oh it was so much fun to roll up on the infamous Playful Darkness and just delete it in 3 turns and then to do the same to all the high and mighty demon lords and bosses and watch them be rendered powerless before me, and despite being the best power fantasy I've ever experienced it still made me work for it, I couldn't sleepwalk through much if any encounters despite how one sided they ended up being and I had to work for that level of power especially in the early game. I'm looking forward to trying the other paths especially the more wholesome ones as a palette cleanser but that Lich playthrough set the bar so high I wonder if any of them can actually match it. I kinda wanna do merged Oracle/Angel next for being OP for an Unfair playthrough but that's all mechanical I haven't really settled on how to role play around that, I do have an idea for a Rob Lucci inspired inquisitor of Asmodeus Aeon into Devil though but that's prolly a little too much evil after just finishing a Lich playthrough and too underpowered for an Unfair or Last Azlanti run as I like to get all the challenge stipulations done first when completing RPGs so that the lower difficulties in future cleanup or for fun playthroughs feel more like the reward of unlocking god mode for completing everything the game has to offer challenge wise.

I kinda agree with the Gold Dragon not being super usefull. The main problem I have with this mythic path is that it is a "late game" mythic path. You unlock Dragon Form very late at the final act, even if you rush it just to do what is required for the quest (yes, u actually can go to the Ineluctable Prison & get the item & not finish the dungeon and return later). The issue is that there are simply other sources of draconic transformations that can be unlocked as early as level 12 or 13 if I remember correctly. Gold Dragon should have either weaker Dragon form unlocked earlier or maybe some story levels (like a dream sequence) when you control a dragon character. Story & lore wise it is great, but the concept was kinda wasted as its potential was not utilized & It just does not feel that impactful. It does not even have that many dialogue options that would be meaningful if you think about it. Gold Dragon should be kinda like "a Jedi" that can affect & alter what other NPCs are doing to the point that they may even change their alignment (like for example Camellia & her ending). I mean, I can convince the final boss that what they are doing is wrong & show them the way to do good stuff, but not a Companion ?!

In my first play through, I was leaning Azata, but when I came to the actual choice, it started talking about the joy of a child taking their first steps... And my son was almost 1 at the time, so that hit me like a truck! I fell hard for that choice, and never regretted it. Also, when I saw the Flesh Markets for the first time, I wanted to attack SO BADLY. But, I restrained myself... and then they kidnapped Aivu, and never have I so enthusiastically accepted a fight! I was giddy taking down that market! Azata path was a treat to play!

I really appreciate that they took the time to make paths like Swarm actually viable, not only because it's going against the story of the campaign, but because it requires so many work arounds to how the game is intended to be played.

Feasting on WotR content just in time for my first run of the game!

Your videos helped me a lot when I first started the game. Really interested in your new recap videos. Since I'm about to finish my first play through and want to try out other mythic path stories, do you have any advice on how or when to set up save files during the game to make the replay process more easier?

17:59 The guitar they put in for the theme for this one is amazing

Everything is clear to me now

Angel and Lich top 2 for me. Book merging and buffs to strong to ignore.

My gripe as far as the Mythic Paths go is that there isn't a really neutral option. Trickster is more leaning into Chaos rather than neutrality. Aeon is all about the Law. Where is the Path for people who don't care about good or evil? Like Druids for example. They can merge with Angel, but Angel doesn't fit Druids. Azata is about healing the land, which is close to what you would be looking for with a Druid, but all the other stuff is Goodie Goodie. Not about balance. I guess the closest thing to the true Neutral path would be Legend. However, going Legend irks me because I really want to stick it to Iomedae lol.

Gold dragon is my favorite. Druid MC with merged spellbook and becoming a holy dragon was super fun and I also like the fact that you can be a chaotic neutral demon instead of a 'for the evulz' cartoon villain.

I'm usually a story first, character build second type of player. So this list is very much appreciated. I wish I could play a good demon though since I've heard how good the story is, but oh well.

Would love to see a video on how the updates have impacted character creation/leveling. I'm thinking of trying a playthrough again and it would be a big help.

I absolutely loved Aeon. the ending made me tear up. I started an Azata playthrough yesterday. hope it can live up to aeon

any chance you could do a vidio with suggested classes for each of the mythic paths and maybe even classes to not play for mythic paths?

Lich is great spellcaster , but it isn't bad at melee either. Probably the only mythic path that fits in every built except divine casters

Can someone explain if the ability Knowledge Arcana from Tricker Mythic Path if worth it? any examples of "Minor" & "Major" item bonuses that are added?

I'm going legend with my next run just because I've always wanted to play a mystic theurge but I've never wanted to give up the spells needed to do so

Mort, As it pertains to Azata and unlocking Devil You mentioned that it was strange that an exotic could end up as the devil's option. I want to say that I was playing a Cavalier of the paw, and an Azata.. As a halfling, I was very chaotic, and mischievous.. Not evil, but lore accurate for a halfling.. Choosing chaotic dialog options apparently opened the devil option.. As its clearly evil, obviously, we killed the devil.. But playing a mischievous, fun loving, chaotic halfling (much like Aivu) is how that happens.. Chaotic good alignment, but making kots of chaotic dialog iptions

Appreciate the spoiler-lite summaries! Definitely has me thinking differently about playing Demon if I ever do another playthrough

As someone who haven't played yet and a bit overwhelmed by the choices for builds already, this mostly-spoiler-free video is real useful to get a rough idea what to expect. But to be honest I'm probably gonna pick gold dragon anyway because my 1st playthrough is always good-aligned and I love me some dragons...

Azata at first place is genuinely insane. Like I know these are just your personal rankings but hot damn dude

From what I heard before I played I thought I would hate Azata during my first playthrough but it was the only decent arcane option for good aligned people. It turned out to be one of my favorite runs outside of dealing with the free crusaders.

As a person who has 300+ hours in WotR and have yet to finish chapter 3, I tend to go Azata myself. Problem is I keep seeing a new build and I restart the game. For real, this time, I am going to play all the way through as the Azata because I want to see how the story differs when I play as a lich my 2nd time through.

I picked Azata in my first playthrough and will also pick it as my last, meant to be the fun mythic ideal and it is.

I'd say that Swarm, Trickster and Legend are all like a player in a tabletop game that wants to go against the story. Swarm is the MurderHobo, Trickster is the Troll who is just doing whatever, and the Legend is the one who takes the game seriously, but doesn't want to follow the story you have planned (but still makes an interesting story.) Azata is like your kid sibling playing.

Azata and Angel seem most appealing to me. Anyone have a recommendation for which of these two paths I should use with my bladebound magus character?

Alright, mate, you do sound convincing, Azata it is then. Still not sure if it will be more thematic and fun than my first playthrough as human-cavalier/Angel. I called it Winded Hussar.

I mean aeon can cast a black hole through his/her eyes that to me is already a 1 to me A pity we will never get a DLC with a all out Brawl between the Mythic Paths

same here, i tried them almost all but always go back to azata !!

You know so much about this game you should do a walkthrough guide

Well damn, I've been waiting to play the game for the first time for quite some time, decided i'll finally start playing next weekend while going in completely blind with an evil mofo so Swarm that walks seemed like a perfect fit. Sad to hear it's the worst of the mythic paths as it looks very cool just for the roleplaying aspect alone. Should I still give it a go? I plan on starting on the normal dificulty.

Let's not forget you can romance Nocticula in the Demon path.

Hey Mort, any idea where I can get the Lord Commander portrait at the start of the video? Thank you.

Last stand was really the only mythic power that i would take over any other, and probably influenced my original game play most. Soloing demons and bosses toe to toe, with nothing but your weapon and shield in your arms, really fulfilled my dreams of epic character.

Angel is super OP for divine casters. Azata gets me a cute baby dragon. Both of these things are great. The other nice thing about Azata is that the powers work with a wide varieties of builds.

Aeon is my favourite and fufills a fantasy that no other game does. I also love playing a rage filled Demon, then having a redemption arc into overly self righteous Golden Dragon.

My first playthrough was lich dirge bard and it was great!

I have a video request! Could you make a list type video of 5 (or so) games that have improved the most since you reviewed them. Improvements would include QoL updates, bug fixes and patches, DLC and other expansions.

As an olded guy who grew up on ttrpgs and lots of gaming i love this game and your channel. Youd be welcome in my roll20 games anytime !

8:57 *The Cosmic Balance Intensifies*

My top 3 I have to say are: 1. Demon. 2. Angel 3. Lich. The first two by far are the most involved with the most content. As for Lich, I really like the thematics of it and the Urgathoa dialouge you get is pretty unique. I don't really think any of the paths are bad either. But some are alot better than others imo.

Thanks to all your pathfinder videos I’ve been walking in wisdom instead of getting dunked haha

I just can't think of making another mythic path after two Azatas, too tempting man

My favorite is still the Swarm that walks. That path is just so... interesting. It's like you're the reincarnation of a certain god who was sealed. I guess that sometimes, You're getting sick of being around people.

We have similar rankings. The idea of the trickster put me off from even attempting it along with the swarm. Demon is my fav but it would've been Devil if you had the chance to get it earlier in the game like Aeon and other Mythic Paths

I don't think I myself would put Azata so high up, but damn does it have the single best scene in all of the mythic path content. I'm talking about the slave scene in hell of course.

Just finished an azata run do you interact with Dezna only if you pick her as a deity at the start?

the aeon time travel stuff is what makes it awesome honestly. Obvious spoiler: saving staunton and the dragon feels amazing and by saving her you get a cameo enemy from kingmaker!