When Japan was rich and could afford these amazing productions.

The sound design.

They don't make em like this anymore. It's all flying 10 year Olds with supermagic now

@@colewyatt5298 100% not true.

Ghost in the Shell, End of Evangelion and Jin-Roh are very good examples for that. Sadly they don't make stuff with that quality anymore. I can't understand why Isekai is the top genre nowadays.

こういう表現で隊員の慌てようを表すのほんとにすごいと思いますねぇ

太田さんはアンテナ折ってナンボですからねｗ

Reminds me of when he accidentally stood up in a tunnel back on the seventh and last ep of The Early Days (if one is curious of its title, it's "Go North, SV2!").

榊さんに怒られそぉw

むしろ頭がもげてナンボやな

For now I'll say what I also like is how, they're aware they aren't the military, but they still try to do their best regardless. Even when their plans may fall apart to some extent, they still try to adapt and improvise to at least not loose. Plus the more I watch it, the more details I catch on that explain some questions I had. One being at first why wern't all the labors firing more freqently until being reminded, their sidearms are all revolvers, 6 shots, and they have to be **manually reloaded by getting outisde the labor** or why Hiromi could not always fire. Besides the distance in question, there's the fact it's a narrow tunnel, and when any of the SV 2 labors are in said main way of the tunnel, they are at risk of getting hit too. Not to mention given they are up against military labors (and armored ones at that if it took **eight** shots at one of em to put em down) the most he could do was distract or knock them off balance. And so on, I' d keep going but then I'll ramble more.

It's a common narrative device that plans articulated to the audience will fail, or at least have significant setbacks and unforeseen problems. In general, whenever characters talk about the plan, expect problems. If they simply say something like, "Here's the plan..." and then the scene cuts to the start of the action, it'll probably go well and succeed.

In ghost in the shell, she is almost a robot, she is desperate, but mantain calm and destroys the tank weapons first, it is, simply, different.

This reminds me of chimera ant arc in hunterxhunter where they're trying to assasinate the king ant with his servants and hoping for the best that their plans will be successfully executed

@@giovannifontanetto9604 motoko has no chill man. I mean she can be chill yea but she litterally destroyed herself in as she worked to wreck the machine.

such attention to detail man it fucking rules

the coolest fight in anime history

They portraited the word "machine learning" better than any modern engineer can ever dream of. I remember collecting my jaw when I saw that punch for the first time, like "HOLY SHIT that SOB is LEARNING!!" 🤣

Ahead of the curve here.

IKR!

Based

What? Where?

Crazy how it's basically the same shit we're saying 🤔

Not the most accurate at times but it will do.

Nah.

💯💯

Nah man, they were literal super computers with arms, especially the inbetweeners and ink and paint department.

I forget the names but some of the guys behind pat2 also bought us GITS

it is actually 10,002. Get your facts straight buddy

Nothing can quite compare can it truly is wonderful more people should appreciate things like this Pat labor is beautiful in its own way

I mean. The charm and emotion there comes from the Japanese boom back then in the economy. Infinite money and infinite budget. Just can’t do that now

@@TheLastStand001 Yeah, most people won't here for it, but imagine all the "China's gonna own the world" sentiment and place that on Japan - they were poised for some interesting things, buuuuut then it didn't happen.

I completly agree, it is rare that modern animes have the look and feel of that time and it saddens me. Patlabor 1+2, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, all the Ghibli Movies, Cowboy Bebop and many more shows and movies from that time are some of my absolute favourite movies and i can't say that about any anime i've seen in the past 1-2 decades. :(

@@burnbobquist8999 4 out of 5 thing you listed are full length movies. If you want to make comparisons, make them valid.

Not all ..for sure not all

No it isnt elit trash

I totally agree with you, the attention to detail is awesome

I had to rewatch that to ensure what I thought happened actually happened there. That was amazing.

no not really. how many mech anime that have you watch? and its not really THAT detail. its pretty much common in other mecha anime in that style. and this is probably a movie, compare it to gundam unicorn, this still inferior.

Patlabor really changes depending on who is directing. Votoms is a fun halfway point of smaller more realistic mechs but still being a wacky space story.

@Jonathan Jacquet agree also the weapons the mechs used is modified M2HB and DHSK except for the new 20mm XM8 like model used by US

@Jonathan Jacquet This, I love the presentation of realistic weaponry that attached to the high tech mech. Even their "laser" is bulky ass telescope that requires more than a minutes to reload.

Mecha and "realistic"? Eeeeehhhhhh... Going just by the design of the robot in the first 2 minutes, I can tell that it really isn't... That thing would never keep upright in real battle, and would be easy to knock over and damage... Square-Cube Law, as well, would be a pain...

@@MrJinglejanglejingle look at Obsolete

篠原巡査は太田巡査を過小評価してますよ。（1:12） 強襲作戦をしている特車二課隊 時間をかけると状況はどんどん不利になり 間合いを詰めるしかないと判断した太田巡査はタンク役を買って出て 自分が犠牲になってもいいと 泉機・南雲機を生かす戦法をとったのだと思いますよ。

@@GinsaiDionistしゃーないです。まず頭で考えてから動く遊馬と、細かく考える前に動く太田じゃ真反対だから笑

ちゅうて、目眩ましをあげると言ってるのにセンサー切ってないわ、目ぇ開けてるわ…軍用のガトリング積んだレイバーに正面から突進するわ、接近戦やと言うとるのに飛び道具持ち出すわ… 重厚な絵と音楽に引っ張られてはいるけどTVシリーズ並にハチャメチャなんですよね…

It's Ota he seldom ever goes into battle without his Ingram getting trashed the fuck up. Sometimes, if not often by his own hand even!! The dude is a good pilot, but his anger issues cloud his ability to keep his equipment operating long enough to finish the fight. Kind of why despite Noa's babying of her own Ingram, pushing ridiculous levels, she at least kept Alphonse working enough to tackle machines that at times could outperform the Ingram, and come out on top. It's why Patlabor worked so well as a comedy as well as a slice-of-life police procedural piece.

Wonder how much it costs to replace that.

@@XenoJehuty84 There's another comment thread where somebody called Ota reckless. Having not yet been able to watch much of this series, I felt that word was a bit much given the circumstances. Reading your explanation on it being a recurring thing makes sense now, haha

@@XenoJehuty84 Trivia: Ingram 2 was supposed to have the identical look to Alphonse, it was due to Ota's reckless piloting that they had to replace a lot of damaged parts on Ingram 2's head and so on, which made Ingram 2 ended up SO different from Alphonse.

@@STRIDER503_sub oh I'm aware of this trivia thanks to the Manga. Hehe it so fits Ota, as well as a nice way of giving each Ingram a different head design for a reason

観てる人に想像させる余韻作ってるところがなおいい

どんな勝負だったんだろう

当時は セル画使ってますからね、本当に良くここまで 仕上げたと尊敬してます。

2機にこれだけ苦戦して甚大な被害も出したのに、1対1での絶望感たるや…

どけーーーーーーーーー！！

Even the missile intercept scene was very accurate the flight path devialtion and the terminology even hollywood doesn't do this right

This anime was all about realistic military settings

And 80s japan money, so infinite budget

@@GamingAlgen This movie was released in 1993 and bubble era ended 3 years ago at that time. so country has no infinite ammount of money like 80s. It's just high quality because of high budget and very skillful director, mamoru oshii.

A time of high income for the people who draw scene by scene.

時間をかければかけるほど対策をとられてしまうし 泉野明ちゃんも南雲隊長も女性ですから 漢、太田はタンク役になって前に出たのでしょうね！！ （この状況ではグリフォンでも無理！！）

They'd be tearing them apart if they were using ARL-99 Helldiver. Damn thing even has autocannon mounted to its right arm.

SUZUKIGSX1100SR 　全く同意

最近知ったけど、南雲さんの声がハマーン様の声の人だったなんてな～

@ゆうじ ウスキ あ、ホントだ！全く分からなかったわ～ww

@@KOU__GP01 　榊原良子さんはハマーンとしのぶさんで別人28号してるからね（笑）

@@KI-yk2nv 声優って本当に凄いですよね～！ある種の落語みたいな感じ

I actually prefer the TV series by a very slight margin. Very character-driven. It was also nice to see different labor makes and models make their respective appearances. Pretty fuckin hilarious too lmao. That episode where SV2 fragments into seperate splinter factions just because Sakaki accidentally found their porn stashes was absolute gold lol

シン・ゴジラにも同様のことが言えますよね。 というかあの映画、間違いなくパトレイバーシリーズに影響受けてる笑 冒頭で退場する最重要人物とかリアルなシミュレーションとか、怪物の出自とか笑

I really enjoyed that in this film. You described the feeling perfectly.

すごいいい例え

ロードショーでも爆笑でしたよ。懐かしい…

Who are you?

映画１作目は10回は見てる、展開も含めて飽きないんですよね

今の時代でもこれだけの映画ってなかなかない。パトレイバーを超えるリアルロボット映画は？　と問われてもすぐに思いつかないもの。

デケェ人型のくせしてリアルロボットってなんだよ笑 ミリオタが好きそうなテイストなだけだろ

Might I suggest 8th ms team?

Also, Ingram is a police labor (mecha) made to handle labor related crime, they designed to look "pretty" to appeal to public

This isn’t cyberpunk though, but i agree

Great attention to detail

格納してある武装を取り出してるの好き。 ガンダムのビームサーベルとかF-35のウェポンベイとか。

太田:なんだとおぉぉっ⁉️💢

なぜか実家のような安心感

「ゴタゴタ言ってても、はじまぁるかぁぁぁぁ」に大田の性分が集約されている😂

Thats why the best Gundam will be always Thunderbolt, the whole Zeon commando operation was great

​@@Fulcrox It may still be full of flashy Gundam battles, but it still feels grounded and tactical, as the Full-Armor Gundam and the Psycho Zaku and their large abundance of weaponry take away the prettiness of their designs and look more like standard war machines, as opposed to other mechs, even Gundams, that look smaller and lesser equipped and yet have more weapons than the entire United States military combined.

Oh thaaaats what happened! This scene is incredible

後藤隊長が適材適所で選ぶ訳かな

ひろみちゃんの援護射撃がなかったら弾喰らってましたよね汗

Mamoru Osshi and his team did banger work. The technical work in both Patlabor films are to die for!!

And no I do not mean that just because of Kanuka...

Lol Kanuka Clancy.. errr Oopps!! 🤭

Water can be a PITA to animate once you start incorporating the nitty gritty details lmao. They struck a perfect balance here.

これ当時見に行ったんですが、太田が無言でリボルバーを出した瞬間観客の全員が「ぶっ！！」 つて吹き出したのを今でも忘れないよ。

@@iosbios6772 わかる気がする（笑）

@@iosbios6772 接近戦じゃないんかい！って心の声が聞こえてきます。まあ。拳銃は確かに近接火器だけどさ。警棒じゃないんだ・・・流石太田さん。イクストル、撃破出来てないし。 ただ、白兵したくとも片腕なくしてるから、リボルバーの白兵戦で隙をつくった太田機がMVPで間違いは無い。基本は優秀な人なんだよね。

@@user-el3xk6zl1i 左腕は吹っ飛んでるので、残ってる武装はリボルバーカノンしかないのよ。吹っ飛んだ左腕は坑道上に転がってると思われる。 スタンスティックを探してると狙い撃ちされる。そもそも、スタンスティックが無事かもわからん。 素手で殴っても効き目があるかわからん。 だから、リボルバーを抜いた。 リボルバーカノンは、あくまで対レイバー用の野砲似すぎんので、戦闘用の装甲を貫くには、ゼロ距離射撃しかない。

@@user-oo8mg7fo2d いや、仰る事は解ってますよ。更に言えば、リボルバーカノンの0距離射撃に耐えるイクストルの正面装甲ってどうなっとんねんと思いましたし。背面装甲とは言え対物ライフル、恐らく12,7mm程度で抜ける癖に。12,7mm重機関銃or対戦車ライフル(傾斜した均質装甲22mmを貫通する。)は自衛隊の軽装甲機動車のガラスすら抜けません。それほど現代装甲は頑丈なのですが、37㎜の徹甲弾、0距離で装甲抜けない物かね？例えソフトスキン用の榴弾だったとしても衝撃で内部機器は損傷するはず。ちょっとここの描写はオカシイですね。不意を突いた太田機の圧勝でなければならん筈。逆プロットアーマを感じます。

Especially that wall hit at 1:54 with the tunnel echo.....simply amazing!

@@frotttiopm8668 True! Amazing sound design, every frame made with attention. I love that part too.

I miss them too. But they made no money when they came out in the 80’s and 90’s so it was short term. This is a part of the Real Robot genre (which was doing horribly financially in the 90’s)

Creativity and money, the peak of this beautiful visual style happened before their economic bubble bursted.

ひろみちゃん何気にかなりの凄腕 スナイパーですよね( *´艸｀)♪

Unless he had the ability to curve billets. And the preceding target may have absorbed the bullet anyway.

「優しさだけが取り柄の男」「同僚が皆昇進する中、一人だけ埋立地に取り残された」等と腐されても、やはり後藤隊長がキャスティングしただけあって有能なんですよね、ひろみちゃん。 エリートでありながら声もかからなかった無個性の二代目とはワケが違う。

@@user-sg7vr9ir8b さん 無個性どころか無気力なうえに無責任な二期生第二小隊隊員(-_-;) 後藤隊長も諦めてる、というか呆れてたんだろうな…

真ん中を、乱射してただけ。 仲間は、両脇を走る。 「ひろみ！援護はどうした！？」 「それが、目の前が真っ白で！」 「あたし、転びそうだよ！」 自分達で使用した閃光弾に、自分(達)が引っかかって援護出来ない無能。 「(当てなくて良いから、とにかく道の真ん中を)撃ちまくれ！」 良いか？第2小隊のメンツは基本的に全員「無能」なんだよ。 しかし、それぞれ警察官(まともな大人)の枠に収まらない尖った部分がある。 ロボットフェチ(好きこそ物の上手なれ) 頭でっかちの能書きたれ(オタクの知識量) 瞬間核融合炉(決断力) 気弱なサラリーマン(ソフトウェア知識) 悲劇の巨人(人間"耕運機") カヌカや熊耳だって、警察官としてははみ出し者。 それらが後藤(詐欺師)の指揮の元で、奇跡的に噛み合った結果の超法規的活動、 いや「活躍」なわけよ。

野明「あたしはさ…こいつと一緒に…逃げ出したいの我慢して、戦い抜いたのに…」 遊馬「こいつと、その根性があれば、何度やったっていい勝負ができるさ。」 野明「いい勝負じゃだめだ。」 遊馬「そうだな。いい勝負じゃだめなんだ。」

PSで出ていたパトレイバーのゲームがわりとそれでしたね

@@user-zs8fr6zg9n おおー、そんなのあったんですね。 南雲隊長助けたり、その他のみんなと仲良くしたり。そんな妄想よくしてたなぁ。 南雲さん可愛いんだよね。好きだ（笑）

最近よく思うのは、この後のメンバーの行方・・・ 篠原と泉は、なんやかんやで篠原重工へ 太田は、警備会社に再就職してそうだなぁ〜と HSSのサターンは、テレビシリーズだけど・・・ドーファン やAVS98(製品版イングラム)を採用した警備会社があるだろうし。「忠国警備保障(ALSOKかなぁ？)」 あたりの、レイバー部門。 後藤は探偵事務所とか良さそう。

+iwa 様 それな。 あとひろみちゃんの対レイバーライフル援護射撃も活躍してましたな。 次元のカゲをブッとばしたシモノフ以来対戦車ライフルに惚れ直した位迫力ある射撃でした。

+iwa よく見ると主人公が全く活躍してない...w もっとも2の主人公は隊長達な気がするけど

太田は何だかんだ言っても特車隊では射撃の名手だからね。相手が無人機なら負けはしないでしょう。

icd11559 でも、自分が、１発撃ってる間に、相手は、100発、撃ってくるけどな！

it reminds me a lot of Halo's 3's soundtrack

reactive armour

All of the Mechs we're free lancer designs, that's why they used the designs that Harmony Gold claimed to own, because at the time they were available for paid rights usage before Robotech/Macross became the franchise it is today. Then they were like "wait we need to protect this license" and so the lawsuit... But the majority of the other designs were just random artists drawing Mechs and tanks for money as far as I know. Not like Gundam where one or two guys design everything.

@@chrisrobinson9899 A lot certainly were just made up by FASA. But there were at least half a dozen or more that had Japanese model kits. For example…. The Shadow Hawk, Wolverine and Thunderbolt are the non-Macross models I can remember off the top of my head. There were almost certainly others, I just can’t remember if I’m thinking of Macross models or not. It was a very, very long time ago. 😉

@@daniel_f4050 There were three anime series that early FASA pulled designs from: Macross, Crusher Joe, and Fang of the Sun Dougram. They had 55 'Mechs in the starting sourcebook (TRO 3025) and of these, 19 were anime designs. They have since managed to recover pretty much all of the rights to use those particular models and redesigned them somewhat to keep Harmony Gold's money-grubby fingers away from future lawsuits, especially since Harmony Gold lost their case against the current Battletech rights holders pretty badly (the copyright lawsuit from Harmony Gold was dismissed with prejudice, and therefore can never be brought to court again). Battletech has since enjoyed a new renaissance in the past three or four years and is very much worth taking another look.

Always liked the industrial/functional look of mechs more then the fancy japanese stuff. Funny how tastes differ, i give you that japanese cartoonists have come up with some mean spider tank designs though.

@@ZackeTheBrute I’m with you on that. I can’t stand the Gundam look or anything else with all that “stuff” sticking out all over the place. I’m sure they’ve justified it at some point or another, bit I just think it looks silly.

ワンコみを感じるw

タチコマ的な可愛さがある