You're right, except you give the argument too much credit. Titles should be less important in football because of how many people are on a team. In basketball, one player can will his team to victory. In football, no matter how good you are, your teammates have to be good at their jobs

OMGGGGG. PREACH! These people really just refuse to give Mahomes the GOAT title and keep moving the goal post. Why does Patrick have to be 43 years old before he can be the GOAT? Because it took Brady 20 years to win 7 rings?!! Well it took Mahomes 5 years to win three rings so by this mathematical argument he will have 12 rings in 20 years. Why can't Mahomes be the GOAT by 2025 with 4 rings in 6 years, 3 of them in a row? They keep throwing up the 7 rings argument which is BULLSH** because the very definition of GOAT means Greatest of All Time. And if you accomplish a three-peat which NOBODY HAS DONE BEFORE NOT EVEN BRADY. that automatically makes you the Greatest of All Time, IDGAF how many more rings Brady has. And just because Brady got two rings with two different teams does that mean that if Patrick retires with the Chiefs and never plays with another team, he can never be the GOAT?? Their argument is invalid.

LeWho?

Cause Brady had to surpass 4 to pass Montana… that was the standard, now they trying to change the standard cause they know they gotta sell a story and getting to 10 and winning 7 is highly unlikely

@@benguenscheyour mother

Facts

Lol I do too....

Bro said panic, oh buddy, mahomes has a long way 2 go 😂

Easy to win when the GOAT is gone

Why would we panic?

You are right about that ten years went by of nothing..i guarantee that ain't happening to Mahomes

Brady’s got the hardware 💍💍💍💍💍💍💍 and he beat Mahomes straight up in the Super Bowl when everything was on the line. Brady is the GOAT

​@Realreal12345 nah

@@soonerjman yah

Eli owns Brady then so he’s the goat. Stupid argument. Mahomes and Brady weren’t even on the field at the same time, head to head in football is at the bottom of the list when comparing people.

Little does he know it, but the humbling is coming

@@DavidAddoniziowho’s gonna do it?

@@jessepinkman876 We'll soon find out

@@DavidAddonizio so you’re just saying this?

@@jessepinkman876 I know for sure that the humbling is already on its way

You must not understand what g.o.a.t. actually means then

@@patrickbateman7369thank god he said he’s “the best he’s ever seen” and not the goat right ?

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning better than Patrick mahomes

@@JuwwnDunbaras a manning fan that’s outrageous

​@@JuwwnDunbarmanning is my favorite QB...but mahomes has already did more than paytons whole career.....don't be delusional

I believe you can do it don't take no for a answer and keep fighting for your dreams 💪😠🚬

You have to make it happen. You can do it. Out work everybody, don't forget to take care of yourself.

Aim higher. Working in media is like eating rat poison.

Go get that $h!T homie. You got it.

C'mon, dream bigger.

Yeah the eye test ….we literally watched the GOAT in his 40s beat Mahomes….so I agree Tom Brady 🐐

@@that_dudemr1286lol in a game with the worst offensive line performance in nfl history. No not Super Bowl history. Not playoff history. That was the worst o line performance of any game in nfl history by pressure rate.

​@@that_dudemr1286another guy that doesn't understand the team game aspect lol

SILLY KID MAGIC BEAT WAAAAAY BETTER TEAMS!!!! JORDAN DIDNT BEAT ONE GREAT TEAM NOT ONE!!! QUALITY MATTERS MORE THAN QUANTITY!!

@@that_dudemr1286 yall are too old to talk football as if QBs play 1 on 1 and pay no attention to the context of those games.

He in the best position to do so

Guess that makes sense as to why this conversation is an “if” segment.

@@44excalibur Brady almost 3peated in 2016-2018 Philly special and benching Malcom butler 😡 still lived over that super bowl

@@davis2k1234 A threepeat only happens when you win two in a row and have a chance for a third, but you're right that the Patriots should also have theeepeated in 2016-2018.

The Chiefs won their hardest super bowl with their worst offense in the Mahomes era, he has a pretty good chance of 3 peating bro

Exactly he’s not there yet but he’s not far either but Brady will remain the goat 🐐 until he gets 5 more rings and MVPs which is possible

If Mahomes gets to 5 or 6 total, most people will consider him the goat. He will likely have the most MVPs, all the stats, and the main difference between them is that Brady won 100% of his coin tosses in playoff OTs.

@@thatstheway2429 true

While I don’t necessarily agree. Thank you for having a reasonable opinion.

@@pandamein2297 5 more rings get outta here with that dummies he don't need more rings he's by far better than Brady he has more MVPs than Brady already

Facts

@@Renegade-kf8fpyes context Brady beat Mahomes with pat having an injured offense hence why that Super Bowl is mostly remembered for the 3 passes pat receivers dropped. And the AFC was poor time management there’s your context. Oh btw Brady lost to a back up qb ick foles

The white Chief needs more rings if he wants to be as great as Tom 🫤🚬

@@goodnightmunchiecan’t be as great as Tom. Tom beat this man when Tom was 43 years old in 2020. Mahomes can never be the goat.

@@luismatias947 brady cheated got caught so no tom will never be the goat

@@benjiwilson5646 seems like another idiot has entered the chat

​@@luismatias947Tom beat the Chiefs 27th ranked passing defense....stop being delusional.

I said the same!

Mahomes played one game his rookie year and in his first five seasons he still has better stats than any quarterback has ever put up in their first 6 years.

Mahomes also started playing in the NFL with the most rules and when it was the safest. Brady started playing years before Mahomes when they had less rules and during that time the players tackled you really hard. Also apparently people forgot basic simple math because I'm pretty sure 7 is greater then 3 lmao😂

Just facts

​@@ravemaster101Tom Brady is the #1 QB goat 🐐🐐

U don’t know ball.

@@NAHTHATSTUFFhope off his jock

@@reelrecs9426 how is it glazing to call mahomes the goat if he wins 3 straight super bowls?? Bunch of dumbasses who don’t know ball 😂

Yeah, when you watch Brady back.In his younger days when he was mahomes age.He wasn't near as good as mahomes, but people aren't doing that.They're just going by the rings.Which is kind of nuts

No one destroyed Mahomes, he had no offensive line due to injuries that year! Again a great defense gave him another ring! Brady was good but Mahomes if great!

@@TheMaverickIIIlol. Mahomes d just gave him a ring

@@dylanallen5653 the D had 399 yards of total offense and led the game winning drive?

@@dylanallen5653you could have put cooper rush on that bucs team and they would’ve beat the chiefs, because the bucs definitely destroyed that offensive line

@@fruke2629 Brady had one the best 1st half’s in super bowl history 16-20 160Yds 3TDs if it wasn’t such a blowout he probably would had 350-400yds 5 TDs but they stopped passing in 3rd QT Mahome choked that super bowl had the no1 ranked offense and couldn’t lead them to 1TD just take the L and enjoy what he has been doing since no one is perfect FYI in 2020 Bucs had 8th ranked defense KC was 10th

Eli Manning is 2-0 against Brady in his Superbowl career. Take that, Michaelf.bender3718. 😂

@@Nuggetfinatic2166 that's true, but that doesn't apply here.

@@michaelf.bender3718 nah you can't just move the goal posts like that my guy. If you're going to hold Brady's head to head record against Mahomes, you can't then just turn around and say "that doesn't apply here" when I bring up Manning against Brady 😂 Can't have it both ways.

@@Nuggetfinatic2166 lol

​@@Nuggetfinatic2166Tom Brady is the goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 best QB ever

If only Brady didnt play in the SB with turf toe, 4 backup offensive lineman, and a HC whose son got drunk and crippled a girl 3 days before the game. Oh, and the record for most penalties called against in a half in SB history. But he did get home field advantage though! And if it werent for Dee Fords toe, Brady's pic would have meant one less SB.

​@davidkaneva9674 bruh he wasn't behind 4 backup oline men they had exactly one injury in the conference game on o line all the rest played all year and got them to the superbowl with top 5 fewest sacks allowed. People talk like they had 4 injuries in the afc game

​@@davidkaneva9674excuse makers 😂😂 the buccs had 8 of the top 10 and 17 of the top 20 players in that match-up with the best pass rush of that year, the same o linemen beat the buccs BAD earlier that year with the exception of ONE injury

​@@2Bookoothey had injuries on the line before the conference championship game so yeah it was a bunch of backups shuffled around. You could've looked it up

@@blick5511 they were injured all year

Because Russell played in an era with 8 teams, if he did it in the free agency era, he’d be the undisputed Goat. Brady and Mahomes eras are closer in competition than Mj/Russell

Because Bill Russell has ZERO career or single season records also Brady has more Super Bowls then any team does if Russell can’t say that Brady had MJs peak Lebron longevity and Russell’s rings all in 1 if you want to make NBA comps

@@davis2k1234 I'd argue Brady had Lebron's longevity but Mahomes is the one with the MJ peak. Mahomes came out the traps with a 50 TD and 5000 yards season while it took Brady 5 years to even break 4000 passing yards in a season and over 10 to pass for more than 5000.

@@mathewjones8886 Mahomes came out the gate in 2018 pass happy NFL with a genius offensive HC best TE ever and THill who is one of l the best WRs ever and a absolute game breaker Alex smith lead the NFL in passer rating in 2017 w Mahomes on the bench Brady took over a 5-11 team with no weapons and DC who can’t coach offense as his coach in 2001 the 2000 Ravens were the defending champs one the most physical dirtiest teams ever different era as soon as Brady got a real offense he dropped 50TDs and still the highest single season QBR in NFL history I say just imagine if Brady had Moss and Tony Gonzalez with Reid calling plays in 2001 he would been off the charts stat wise

@@mathewjones8886 Brady set several single season record through out his career that is peak and of course Mahomes hit crazy high peaks already but his 1st season is still his best stats wise

And Cam Newton is 1-0 against Brady and Eli Manning is 3-2 against brady with 2 being in the supe bowl… so by your standard Eli Manning is the goat, followed by Cam Newton than Brady than mahomes…. That sound right to you?

You don’t know ball.

How long it took the patriots to win a Super Bowl under Tom Brady compared to pats

What position on defense Brady play?

Yeah! With a great defense like always.

But if he doesn't then only time will tell and he will have a ways to go. His story is still being written. Tom beating him twice in the playoffs adds to his goat claim. But I'm not a blind witness. Pat is different.

Brady spanked Mahomes in the playoffs and Super Bowl

Brady fans are desperately looking for someone to knock Mahomes off the throne, and from how I see it, it's going to be either Lamar or Stroud.

@@jaimegarcia9319 the first game was a 3pt loss. Not a spanking. By that logic, Eli "spanked" Brady twice, so GTFOH lol. And also, Tom didn't beat Pat. His TEAMS did

@@jctslice losing in OT to Brady is crazy. 😂 don’t worry he’s not alone the falcons got his back goofy

He is on the way

What about all the other QBs in history that have the same amount of Superbowls as mahomes or more then him because they wasn't back to back he is better what if mahomes 3peats then never gos ada n or wins one again would he still be the best that logic is stupid u are assuming he will 3,pear like I am assuming he's won't it's not fact

Nope

@@robertschoelerman7496 Mahomes is 3rd all time in playoff wins and he will tie Montana for 2nd with 1 more win

Crazy how people forget what Eli Manning and Nick Foles really done beating Tom Frady head to head Inna a couple of Super bowls 😂

Mahomes hade no o line wasn't really a game

@@Nuggetfinatic2166 lol every time Brady fans mention this but don't want to acknowledge who beat Brady in a Super Bowl.

@@Nuggetfinatic2166eli isn’t in the goat debate…

Media has always hated Brady forever 1st it was Peyton then Arod then Mahomes are better but Brady had Belichick and his magical “system” “the Patriot way” No other great all time player in any sport was hated more then Brady by media and fans

Stfu.i hate people

Get over it buddy😂 #MahomesBetter

Mafraud??? God this world is awful. Its just sports for one and for two he is a winner. Its also just entertainment.

Nah the goat is Eli Manning owning Tom Frady not once but TWICE in the Superbowl. See how stupid you sound now? 😂

@@jethrojacinto2798 Eli Manning will always be the GOAT because he owned Tom Frady not once, but twice in the Superbowl. See how stupid you sound? 😂

lol the hate you have.

He’s 2-2 with Brady overall, their first playoff game Brady threw a pick but Dee ford was off sides, and in the Super Bowl missing 3 to 4 offensive linemen.

@@fruke2629 these are excuses, the drive before dee ford mahomes threw a game losing INT that was dropped and got away with an obvious OPI, in the SB they were missing only 1 lineman from the AFCCG when they scored 38 points

@@farazsyed5350 Brady actually threw an interception tho 😭

@@farazsyed5350 lol so I guess Eli is the GOAT? Can we please stop with that logic

He's already started....

Your logic makes no sense brady beat mahomes in the AFC chip hame and superbowl! You tried to use players in different eras difference here buddy we got to see both play in the biggest of games and the true goat came out on top both times get off your knees and you better logic next time

@@kevinchafin6102 Your logic makes no sense. Eli beat Brady head to head and nobody says he is better than Brady. Brady got carried by defense. Mahomes had to carry bad defense. You can hold on to your Brady goat BS for a little while longer. Pretty soon there will be no argument against Mahomes being better!

@@phile5437you can’t even compare Jordan bill play offense in defense QBs can’t plus without Tom Brady they don’t win he still played a part of that .

AFC West has been terrible since Mahomes started why Chiefs were winning it every year with Alex smith at QB

@@davis2k1234 the West has had 2 playoff teams half the years he's been the starter. The East was definitely worse in Brady's day

​@@davis2k1234 bro, are you serious rn lol. Was Philip Rivers trash ? Is Justin Herbert trash ? Was Derek Carr ever trash ? Even an OLD Russ last year wasn't trash. He was solid. The AFC East ALWAYS had TRASH QBs basically outside of Chad Pennington. The one year of Favre was when Brady got hurt

​@@blick5511 Herbert already surpasses any QB Brady faced in the AFC East

He didn’t dominate for 20 years. When everyone in his era was in their primes they all ate. That whole decade you had Big Ben win 2 SBs, Eli win 2, Peyton win, Rodgers win, Brees win. The greatest strength of Brady was starting fast winning 3 SBs when QBs of the 80/90s were past their prime and the QBs of the new era 2000s were starting out and then winning on the backend when they were out of their prime and the new QBs that would run 2020s were just starting out. Great accomplishment for sure but there’s plenty of context

​@@michaeldiaz7101 and none of those other players had Belichick

Facts

Lol Brady fans praying they don't three-peat. Especially if Pat wins an MVP, marking the second time he's had both in the same season

I had Brady as the GOAT after 2007 but the consensus by everyone fans and media was he needed at least 4 or for most people a 5th ring to officially pass up Joe now Brady has 7 rings it’s well “Rings aren’t that important” Brady hate is crazy

@@davis2k1234 Rings are pretty important but this is football. it's 11 on 11 and you don't play two ways. In NA, it truly is the ultimate team sport Tom is incredible in his own right. But having 19 top 10 scoring defences in 22 seasons is never, ever going to happen again for any team or QB. It's impossible what Brady's defences did for 2 decades. Whole '01 post-season, '03 Divisional and Champ Game, '04 Divisional, '06 Divisional, '07 Champ Game and SB42, SB46, SB49, SB51, SB53, '20 Divisional and SB55 were all stellar defensive efforts. Best defensive performances Mahomes has seen were basically last year and then the '22 AFC Champ Game. Maybe SB54 too

@@timocruz510 Chief have had 5 top 10 defense out of 7 since Mahomes started so there way and that was with Kelce/THill the best offensive combo in NFL history for 4 years

@@timocruz510 You realize Belichick is a glorified Defensive coordinator who couldn’t draft offense and surrounded Brady with mediocre to bad offenses almost every outside of of a few season in NE Chiefs are already re loaded on offense after 1 down season

@@davis2k1234 Yeah Moss, Gronk, Welker, Edelman, Corey Dillon, and the best OL coach of all-time. And then Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and AB... You're right Tom had nothing offensively dkm