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Shotgun Slugs: Smoothbore vs. Rifled Barrel.

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Paul Harrell

Paul Harrell

Күн бұрын

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@IronheadStakebreaker
@IronheadStakebreaker 7 жыл бұрын
Paul, you systematically answer every single question I have ever asked with outstanding military style no-nonsense presentations. As an ex-paratrooper, rifleman, drill sergeant, and army marksmanship instructor your channel is literally everything I have ever wanted within the domain of marksmanship and ballistics content. Please don't ever stop. H-minus!
@terrybeasley2898
@terrybeasley2898 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Hegley if your comment is true then our military training sucks. This guy cant shoot
@IronheadStakebreaker
@IronheadStakebreaker 6 жыл бұрын
In the DOD we have 3 calibers 5.56x45, 9mm, and 7.62x51. Technically 4 if you count the .50 for small arms. The .50 falls in small arms or heavy weapons depending on the literature you are reading. Whether it be field manuals, or unit SOPs. It is "officially" an anti-aircraft and anti-vehicle munition. But it does wonders for human targets behind certain types of cover as well. We are experts in these specific calibers. With some minor supplementary training in foreign munitions such as 7.62x39 and other common military rounds, we don't really get to see these kinds of effects on target, or energy comparisons with common over the counter stuff. Which we don't need anyway, we have our adequate overlap in range, energy, accuracy, and lethality overall in what we got. With my squad plus my radio, I can kill anything within line of sight anywhere, as far as 5 miles. Typically 5 miles is your limit on even terrain due to curvitre of the earth. Its nice to see complete and concise presentations in a military-style covering civilian munitions, tactics, and techniques. As for Pauls marksmanship. He shoots every type of weapon, in every caliber, from every era of US history, in every weather condition, in every video within minute of fist. Put your fist over your heart and look at it. Cameras are cheap homie. KZfaq is free. Put up or shut up. Airborne Motherfucker!
@williammontroy9024
@williammontroy9024 5 жыл бұрын
@@terrybeasley2898 fuck I wish I shot as poorly as Paul . Let's see how you do picking up a stranger's gun and fire it within minutes of picking it up cold never having touched that particular weapon untill then . There are a lot of excellent shots out there hell even I'm a pretty fair shooter ..but there is a world of difference in a excellent target shooter and a good combat shooter . I'm definitely not a combat shooter and I'm glad I'm not . But I recognize the difference . This guy would handle you on a range and save your ass in a fight. Show a little respect
@jdenmark1287
@jdenmark1287 5 жыл бұрын
@@terrybeasley2898 you are funny.
@TMcD3
@TMcD3 5 жыл бұрын
Terry Beasley your not what I’d call a professional...
@jsanchezelonce3414
@jsanchezelonce3414 3 ай бұрын
Here again in 2024 for the whole video.
@BigBoss-tv1ls
@BigBoss-tv1ls 7 жыл бұрын
We're not on the range today, so please bear with the lack of gunfire you hear in the background :)
@RockHudrock
@RockHudrock 4 жыл бұрын
LOL! Exactly!
@BUZZKILLJRJR
@BUZZKILLJRJR 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha 🤣😂🤣😂😂
@user-po7iv4ni3o
@user-po7iv4ni3o Күн бұрын
And the only remaining distraction is the non-existent speech impediment that Paul always mentions 😂 Dude's speech is almost flawless.
@ArtEM-wk4hs
@ArtEM-wk4hs 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! An associate at Turners was just recently trying to tell me that the Remington 870 Express I was looking at didn't have a rifled barrel so I couldn't use rifled slugs and would need to pay for sabot slugs. I just left the store. Keep on keeping on, your knowledge and expertise are a breath of fresh air in this sea of misinformation that we live in.
@kamelionify
@kamelionify 7 жыл бұрын
You can buy a rifled choke too
@philipvanvaerenbergh5062
@philipvanvaerenbergh5062 7 жыл бұрын
"Rifled" slugs are for smooth bore shotguns. If the shotgun didn't have a rifled barrel, then you /should/ use the rifled slugs. Sabot slugs are for rifled barrels only.
@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078
@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078 7 жыл бұрын
I have very good results with a 5 or 6 inch(can't recall) extended rifled choke on my 870. The particular slug makes the difference. Good with Remington sluggers. Great with the Winchester slugs in the silver box.
@ExceptionalPleb
@ExceptionalPleb 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the employees at Turners are bad IMO
@jaredbickmore2474
@jaredbickmore2474 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExceptionalPleb I'm guessing Turner's is some kind of big box store?
@j.m.8193
@j.m.8193 7 жыл бұрын
I love how Paul never looks away from the camera when he picks things up. Spacial awareness overload!!! LOL
@Steve-wz5pz
@Steve-wz5pz 2 жыл бұрын
It's the confident fellow who parks his truck in back of his targets.
@thegreatmechanizedape8262
@thegreatmechanizedape8262 7 жыл бұрын
reaffirming my philosophy of a rifled short barrel with 00 buck for bumps in the night. before anyone says anything, I live alone in the woods so I can shoot through all the walls I want.
@jamessnider6780
@jamessnider6780 6 жыл бұрын
Then shoot on brother!
@mrtraumaboyy4098
@mrtraumaboyy4098 6 жыл бұрын
That's what i tell my wife!! Letter rip!! One exception....Don't shoot toward the BOAT SHED!!!!!
@chrischrism1581
@chrischrism1581 6 жыл бұрын
paul has a fantastic video about different caliber penetration of multiple house walls and an exterior wall, i just watched it and #4 buck did an awesome job !! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ec94e8qbxriUhH0.html ...... you have the right idea MechanizedApe but i think the wrong pellets.. you might wanna go with my idea of 32 pellet #4 buck to fill in your pattern.. or #3 buck or #2 or #1.. to hell with over-penetration scares.. if someone's/anyone's shots over-penetrate it is not the defenders fault but it is the fault of the intruder instigating the battle engagement.. of course we will still feel badly if anyone is hurt but [sorry if this offends anyone] the objective you all seem to be talking about is you and your loved ones surviving the engagement, [which i assume is constant and foremost on your mind during the entire battle ie: know your target and what is behind and beyond it , this should include if your family is behind the target, right? ] so over-penetration should be a minor secondary concern up to the point where you are legally liable,.. such as using a military 50cal rifle in your dorm-room to stop an attack, and even that is still up to a judge and jury.. [although one of the best quotes i will never forget is "your handgun has a main purpose, and it's main purpose is to get you to your long rifle!!" a shotgun under 25 yards seems reasonable but you gotta check your shot pattern.. if anyone [including me] wants to consider sacrificing penetration for effectiveness of engaging the target, that's totally up to the defending individual as long as they know there may be safety repercussions if you dont take down the target quickly and legal repercussions if excessive force is used to defend yourself, i guess.....i will keep an open mind... i liked this video, have a great day my good friend
@williammontroy9024
@williammontroy9024 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrtraumaboyy4098 grow the hell up ... everyone who's anyone knows you fortify the boat shed ..the hell's wrong with you!? Lmao . Jk
@jamiesloan5902
@jamiesloan5902 4 жыл бұрын
The Great Mechanized Ape You mention that it's a "short" barrel. Barrel length has absolutely nothing to do with shot pattern, contrary to the MYTH.
@Quadflash
@Quadflash 5 жыл бұрын
Paul, I appreciate your no-nonsense, real world tests and advice. Your kind of straightforward information is increasingly uncommon. Thanks for your consistently professional work!
@jeffreygraf3358
@jeffreygraf3358 6 жыл бұрын
Just don't make a habit of shooting foster slugs through a rifled barrel, unless you want spend hours of cleaning the lead out of the bore. My father in law did this for two years and his barrel was so gummed up with lead it looked like a smoothbore.
@KBBF3
@KBBF3 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, I am amazed at how brief, informative, and thorough he is in such a short amount of time. This is exactly what KZfaq needs.
@caseytaylor1487
@caseytaylor1487 3 жыл бұрын
For someone with very limited knowledge and experience with shotguns, I found this to be highly informative. Thanks!
@Callsign_Prophet
@Callsign_Prophet Жыл бұрын
This video helped me decide I don't need a rifled barrel. If I'm interested in range I'll pick up my .450 or .308. 50 yards with slugs is plenty for pushing.
@arieheath7773
@arieheath7773 7 жыл бұрын
Literally just hopped on KZfaq the second this got active. Always a good day when there's a new video from Paul.
@GovtWatchdog
@GovtWatchdog 7 жыл бұрын
Arie Heath: I've been watching Paul's vids all day since I got home from work. This guy's great!
@kadenzabavski6932
@kadenzabavski6932 3 жыл бұрын
I come from the future. Beware of COVID. Can’t say anything more
@MatthewSmith-to1hz
@MatthewSmith-to1hz 5 жыл бұрын
No bullshit, right to the point, no bias, and explained in simple yet informative ways. HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE MORE SUBS?
@glenda8110
@glenda8110 4 жыл бұрын
Paul would have more subscribers if he had a snappy soundtrack and a scantily clad female sidekick shooting with him, but then it woulndnt be a Paul Harrel video.
@MikhaelAhava
@MikhaelAhava 3 жыл бұрын
For us, this is a really informative video, but to some, they might find this boring.
@drizler
@drizler 2 жыл бұрын
@@glenda8110 oh please let’s just not do that🙈. That eye candy reminds me of those idiotic informationals that plague late night tv.🤢. I took enough classes in advertising to understand how they insinuate sex in some fashion in most everything they sell. Much of it is subliminal in that you can’t directly see it but it’s there someplace. Once you “ get it” you can see through most of the nonsense and it just seems like in these cases it’s so much desperation for those all important Klicks. The no bullshit format 👍🏻 perfect!
@FantomWireBrian
@FantomWireBrian 2 жыл бұрын
Subs are for insecure people who don't know how to shoot. Believe me I grew up with someone who knows. He also never believed in the NRA 😎
@waptek2
@waptek2 2 жыл бұрын
youtube fix was in
@baku8543
@baku8543 7 жыл бұрын
Underrated Gun Channel.
@grenmoyo3968
@grenmoyo3968 7 жыл бұрын
B A K U oooohhh maaai gaawwwt
@Oregon-airguns
@Oregon-airguns 5 жыл бұрын
WTF!? Dudes got 300k subscribers alone!!! Lord knows how many views he has gotten!! How’s that under rated!?!?
@StevenL00
@StevenL00 5 жыл бұрын
@@Oregon-airguns because there are gun channels out there with millions of subs, that's where Paul should be right now
@atrocitus9804
@atrocitus9804 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oregon-airguns u fail to realize the comment he made was over 2 years ago right? 2 years ago the guy only had about 10 thousand subscribers. I'd say he was underrated back then.
@crazymanwarp0
@crazymanwarp0 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated channel full stop
@mpdjr77
@mpdjr77 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a practical demonstration, Mr. Harrell. This video answered so many of my questions about shotgun ammo/barrel selection, saving me a bunch of time and money to figure it out, myself. Such a public service! Blessings, Grace and Peace 😊
@loonachan
@loonachan 7 жыл бұрын
That feel when you're bored and on at midnight and your favorite youtuber uploads a video
@wadekirby8575
@wadekirby8575 7 жыл бұрын
I've fired bird shot through a .45/410 handgun and found that different loads behave quite differently from one another. Different brands and loadings use different components and changing one component can make a striking difference. Some would scatter quickly making thin basically useless patterns. Some would make a doughnut pattern like you described. One load seamed to ignore the rifling and shoot a tight and consistent pattern.
@wilderwyoming
@wilderwyoming 6 ай бұрын
I've watched this video several times over the past couple years. I still appreciate it. Thanks, Paul. Wishing you the best.
@cosmicbird1850
@cosmicbird1850 3 ай бұрын
I watched it again tonight. Paul is the best.
@fdmackey3666
@fdmackey3666 7 жыл бұрын
This video could not have been more timely as I just purchased a Mossberg 500 (smoothbore barreled) with rifle sights (flip up/down barleycorn rear with ramp front) and was about to invest in several boxes of slugs, buckshot and No. 6 shells for use as a "control" load. I hate to sound cheap, despite the fact that I AM VERY cheap whenever possible, but seeing the patterns from the camera's view allowed me to settle on a buckshot load for the barrel that came on my particular firearm. I AM in the market for both a rifled barrel and a nice vent ribbed barrel for bird hunting usage as cheaply as I can find them priced. Thanks again for a very timely and on point video and for saving me some money that can now be spent on barrels and chokes!
@andrewpayne2811
@andrewpayne2811 7 жыл бұрын
**grabs a dime and pappy's old shotgun** Another great video Paul!
@garyh7949
@garyh7949 7 жыл бұрын
Someone on a gun forum mentioned Paul Harrell and here I am. Subscribed and liked. I've always heard that you should use rifled slugs in a smooth bore and un-rifled slugs or sabot in a rifled bore. Thanks for expounding on that.
@supertom8552
@supertom8552 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul ! You answered all my questions about slugs, smooth boar , bird shot , rifled barred compatibility, intelligent, informative, to the point ! Excellent video !
@shahreyaralam1019
@shahreyaralam1019 9 ай бұрын
To the point, serious , hardcore no fancy Tactical gear. Spot on
@dhern2613
@dhern2613 6 жыл бұрын
As always Paul, very informative, factual, no nonsense but humour all at the same time
@claudiodominguez.
@claudiodominguez. 3 жыл бұрын
I like how he dispenses with the b.s. and goes straight to 100 yards on the first slug test. On the third test I wasn't paying full attention and thought it was 100 yards and I was ready to buy an old double barrel, that group was tight, then I heard it was at 25 yards. Great video.
@Speedogg138
@Speedogg138 7 жыл бұрын
That dime trick is real handy, Thanks Paul! :)
@rcnelson
@rcnelson 6 жыл бұрын
Worth more than a plugged nickel.
@poorfatman5317
@poorfatman5317 6 жыл бұрын
Yep I remember the first time I seen that dime trick in 1978
@TRIIGGAVELLI
@TRIIGGAVELLI 5 жыл бұрын
I actually learned that from Berry (RIP) on Iraqveteran8888.
@ronp4672
@ronp4672 5 жыл бұрын
Does a Canadian dime work the same...lol
@stewpidasso288
@stewpidasso288 7 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed at the difference in number of views (overnight, or first 8 hours) that your videos are getting, compared to when I started watching you. It's fantastic! Great content, as always. Keep up the good work!
@dgilly6704
@dgilly6704 7 жыл бұрын
Paul is the best KZfaqr hands down! He is like a mordern day jedi master haha. Greetings from Pennsylvania Paul!
@Wild_Bill57
@Wild_Bill57 5 жыл бұрын
I always give you a thumbs up, even before watching your videos. NEVER have I needed to change that EVER, after watching the video. Thank you for great technical videos. You and Hickok45 are my all time favorite channels, period.
@irondiver292
@irondiver292 4 жыл бұрын
I wait till after watching because you know KZfaq weights a like that was given after video review differently than one given automatically. Too many computerphiles in the pond for them not too...
@nicholasscott5905
@nicholasscott5905 Жыл бұрын
If you're into guns check out mosin crate too, no shooting but plenty of firearms
@jimmystevens9028
@jimmystevens9028 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Beretta slug gun w/chrome lined rifled barrel. Using Hornady SST sobot slugs mine is zero's at 120yds and shoots awesome. Anything under 300yds is dead, biggest thing is I've shot this gun often and know it very well.
@SteveShivik
@SteveShivik 7 жыл бұрын
Drop everything, Paul uploaded!
@helgardwagener
@helgardwagener 7 жыл бұрын
Dropped everything, got popcorn !
@Tyrfingr
@Tyrfingr 7 жыл бұрын
Dropped everything.
@kunichuck
@kunichuck 7 жыл бұрын
Was holding a baby, still dropped everything
@SteveShivik
@SteveShivik 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly it was probably better to drop the baby
@TMcD3
@TMcD3 5 жыл бұрын
Paul uploaded I stopped reloading...
@HenriFaust
@HenriFaust 7 жыл бұрын
I think I've made my father into a fan with this and the "introduction to shotguns" video, and he doesn't even like guns.
@slipp3ryslop3
@slipp3ryslop3 7 жыл бұрын
I love that when I go to watch a video on this channel I can confidently give it a "like" before I even watch it. I may not know exactly what you're going to show or how the findings will be, but I know the quality of demonstration will be professional and that I'll learn a lot of useful things. Thanks as always for the great content, Paul!
@FantomWireBrian
@FantomWireBrian 2 жыл бұрын
The metal in your intro was given to my dad. He was proven in the field of battle. His opinion . He was impressed with the black powder which is legal in most shotgun zones. He was impressed by a group with riffled slugs through my side by side 626 Barretta. It has a group of 5" smooth barrels. It's the closest to a high end side by side rifle. 😎.
@JuryRigger
@JuryRigger 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I keep thinking of random questions as I watch through your presentations, and I'll be danged if every one doesn't get answered!... Once shot a borrowed .22 WMR, was told you could shoot .22 LR through it, just to watch your eyes.... Yeah.... Very little time on the web proved I did not have access to good firearms information near me LOL.... You presentations are pure gold to those who don't know nothing about firearms. Thanks again, Jesse
@mozzberg590
@mozzberg590 7 жыл бұрын
Never new a dime was a trick to measure a choke. Thanks Paul
@mwilliamshs
@mwilliamshs 7 жыл бұрын
mozzberg never knew new was the new knew
@stevesedio1656
@stevesedio1656 5 жыл бұрын
What came first, the 12 Gauge, or the dime?
@bern1228
@bern1228 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I've always been curious about shooting rifled slugs through my smoothies
@brightly9318
@brightly9318 3 жыл бұрын
Rifled slugs are meant for smooth bore barrels.
@back40gunner
@back40gunner 7 жыл бұрын
As always, thank you Paul for uploading another fantastic video. I just wanted to add my 2 cents to your findings. I am from Canada. My son-in-law shoots a 590-A1 with a smooth bore open sights, and I shoot a Mossberg 500 with a rilfed barrel and red dot. We both shoot Canadian made "SCORE" Brenneke slugs at $1CAD/round; son-in-law shoots 1 1/8 oz, I shoot 1 oz. We each can hit groups no more than a hand width apart at 70 yards, freehand, without any trouble. These are only our findings and I am simply adding information to your already informative video and I am always looking forward to your upcoming videos. BTW: I also shoot 30-30 and I find your video the best to show people REAL findings of 30-30 ballistics.
@christophermetz1550
@christophermetz1550 6 жыл бұрын
Man I love Paul's shotgun videos! I have learned so much about one of my favorite weapons to shoot. Shotguns are just so dang diverse.
@TheMagnumChannel
@TheMagnumChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Very well done, I was one of the ones hollering "Use Sabot slugs!" at my screen! Lol 😂
@seanyouknowwho798
@seanyouknowwho798 7 жыл бұрын
As always, a great video and personally very timely for me. The "Slug Debate" has been going on at my Saturday morning men's breakfast for years. Thanks for the info. Also, you should do a video on "Why we need to buy a new gun or two every year". My wife keeps asking silly questions like "Don't you already a gun like that?" I say "Well, I have it in an auto loader, but not in a revolver...or it's a compact and this is a full size..or I have a double action and this is a single action...." With your calm demeanor and sound logic, I am sure you could convince my wife and probably many others that there is a good reason for the need for all these different guns and she shouldn't ask questions. It would avoid a lot of husband/wife arguments....😉
@manictiger
@manictiger 7 жыл бұрын
Because I can? Alright, yeah, I can see how a wife might not like that answer.
@chrischrism1581
@chrischrism1581 6 жыл бұрын
if you shoot a lot, how about "honey, you know things wear out. i used it so much and now the warrantee is expired and plus you know our lives depend on these things working correctly the first time, every time..dont you think a new gun keeps us safer darling?!" .. but then you gotta worry about the woman logic kicking in and then her saying "well don't shoot so much and wear them out so fast !!" ...maybe just tell her you made a bet with a stranger or friend at the gun club for a new gun, and you won the bet !!...hehehe LOL
@davejan744
@davejan744 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Chrism , Better yet, ask HER why she has so many pairs of shoes & purses, whole closetful of dresses she MIGHT wear once a year.
@maxheadroom7649
@maxheadroom7649 5 жыл бұрын
I never argue with my wife about needing a new gun i just slip a few bucks out of the bank account here and there and slip it in the back door when she's not home
@MsRakel25
@MsRakel25 2 жыл бұрын
Lol damn yeah every year it seems like. Got away with 2 maybe 3 this year.. it’s opposite in my house tho. I love guns and my husband has no interest but is supportive. Anyone do the gun for birthdays or Christmas?? you say it’s for them but in reality…
@captlarry-3525
@captlarry-3525 7 күн бұрын
Paul... this is one I really wanted the answer to. Several other questions answered as well...all useful in choosing a shot gun.. or the choke tube to use. I wish there were some demos of 20 gauge..
@TheStratman007
@TheStratman007 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a former army weapons officer, however, my experience with shotguns was somewhat limited. I'm getting ready to purchase three shotguns: a 12 gauge 30" semi-auto smooth bore for geese (I live in upstate New York a few miles from Canada, a tactical 12 gauge pump for my boat defense, and third, I really wanted a rifled slug gun as back up for my grizzly trip next year. I've been an instructor all of my adult life, but I salute you sir. You are an award winning instructor hands down. Thank you very much for this most informative instructional video. I'd like to see some instructional DVDs.
@robertsalyers1351
@robertsalyers1351 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honesty and your knowledge about weapons I've learned something from your videos Thanks Brother
@BwanaSuttree
@BwanaSuttree 7 жыл бұрын
Paul just dropping knowledge. Thanks
@davehahn8767
@davehahn8767 6 жыл бұрын
Same scattered pattern shooting snake shot through a rifled barrel. But a .22 shot shell with a Short Lane adapter gives great patterns at 15 yards with very little noise. Kind of specialized, but for pests in close, no ricochet worries and low noise, works well.
@jasonhull2163
@jasonhull2163 3 жыл бұрын
My home defense shotgun is a 1975 Remington Model 1100 12 gauge loaded with 000 buckshot. It chambered 2’3/4 but don’t be fooled. Once a month I break it down and put grease on the cocking arms and bolt. This allows me to cycle even low brass skeet loads with ease. I have a mossberg 500 thats factory camouflaged and it’s chambered in 3 inch 12 gauge. Improved cylinder works best with the mossberg if you use 3 inch 000 buckshot. Got off topic a bit but I plan on buying a rifled barrel for my Remington model 1100 12 gauge for slugs. 2’3/4 slugs are more accurate and tumble less than 3 inch. You will have more stopping power than any rifle at 150 yards with the right slugs. I’ve seen wild hogs get shot 20 yards away with a 30-06 and get up and run. I was with a friend that shot a wild hog around same distance with a 12 gauge slug gun and the hog buckled and hit hard, never moved. Both shots were in same area.
@WithDreday
@WithDreday 7 жыл бұрын
Liked before the intro even finished
@vebbak8399
@vebbak8399 7 жыл бұрын
Withdreday o
@m1fubar292
@m1fubar292 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Paul, you’re easily the best gun channel I’ve seen
@scruffydarealog2632
@scruffydarealog2632 7 жыл бұрын
SuperNegro21 hahaha i love your name, if i ever get in trouble I'll call you lol
@albundy6008
@albundy6008 6 жыл бұрын
I have been told, ( can't remember by who) not to use rifled slugs in a rifled barrel. Thanks for dispelling the myth.
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 жыл бұрын
Nice. I was a little surprised the sabots printed so low. Interesting to see rifled slugs in a rifled bore. The accuracy on the sabot slugs from the rifled barrel was gratifying. Surprised the cost difference was so small. The sabot slug prices i usually see are higher. Great video as always. Thank you
@dave8895
@dave8895 7 жыл бұрын
How about doing a video on the performance of full power slugs and buckshot versus the performance of reduced recoil slugs and buckshot?
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea.
@unicaller1
@unicaller1 7 жыл бұрын
I second this.
@whiskeypapa8842
@whiskeypapa8842 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe with something like a Shockwave or TAC-14 (smiles broadly).
@whiskeypapa8842
@whiskeypapa8842 6 жыл бұрын
*The Stoned Videogame Nerd* Sorry to hear you cannot shoot yours as I have found the Shockwave to be a pussycat with Federal LEO Low Recoil loads(1150fps). This is the most fun I have had with a gun in years. Almost every pellet is on paper at 7yds. As for Aquila, why pay more for less? Yes, the 1897 was nice too. I may have to look for one.
@zac4775
@zac4775 6 жыл бұрын
For the money shockwaves are incredible fun! My friends dont share my fondness for 3 inch magnum slugs though.
@irondiver292
@irondiver292 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me proud to know this fine man was rewarded for sharing his experiences and expertise. Bravo!
@drkjk
@drkjk 6 жыл бұрын
Shot sabot rounds from a tank for twenty years and we always pronounced them say bo. So yes, you pronounced it correctly.
@DoBraveryFPS
@DoBraveryFPS 3 жыл бұрын
7:38 I was as impressed with this ammo description, as I was with his shooting! What delivery! Great vid!
@leshenry9695
@leshenry9695 4 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a Mossberg 20 guage. I cut the barrel to 18.5", and mounted a peep sight on the rear, and a conventional sight up front. I could consistently hit an 8" paper plate at 75 yd. I found this to be very effective on whitetails in the brush up here in VT.
@ATINKERER
@ATINKERER 6 жыл бұрын
That was very instructive. I've been shooting for 50 years and I learned a few things from this video. The only problem is that I didn't understand if you shot from both barrels of the double barrel shotgun? Or were those four shots from one barrel, and if so which one?
@hunters.6894
@hunters.6894 4 жыл бұрын
Left/full choke
@rohlfing63
@rohlfing63 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always. One thing to share based on a lot of past experience with slug shooting. Whether shooting rifled slugs through a smoothbore, or sabots through a rifled barrel, you really need to experiment with different brands and lengths of shells (if you have a 3" chamber in a 12 ga) to find what shoots well. Each gun will have it's preference. In my younger days I only hunted deer with smoothbore guns and rifled slugs (all we had). One gun shot best with Winchester slugs, the other with Remington. Remarkable difference in how they performed with each ammo. Wanted to know why, so I cut open one of each. The Remington slugs were of smaller diameter, and had a thicker skirt. The Winchester slugs were fatter, with a thinner and more deformable skirt. Not surprisingly, the Winchester loads performed much better in the improved cylinder barrel, while the Remington's were better with the full choke. In rifled barrels I've also found remarkable differences between sabots of different brands, in multiple guns. Keep up the great stuff Paul!
@gastonn8
@gastonn8 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm watching Paul's presentations from bottom end to the latest video. Can't stop.
@mmoon3687
@mmoon3687 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul. I was looking at shotguns today and was asking myself, smooth bore or rifled? Couldn't decide, the timing of this video is perfect.
@jamiesloan5902
@jamiesloan5902 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Moon If you plan on shooting just slugs, then get the rifled barrel. If you want ALL of the many advantages of a shotgun, get the smooth bore. My smooth bore shoots slugs plenty accurate enough. 2"-3" groups at 50 yards. Plus, I've got 8 different sized chokes for my other loads.
@Paul-wq4qb
@Paul-wq4qb 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamiesloan5902 Agreed. Freedom munitions makes an awesome 1oz that I've had great results with
@brightly9318
@brightly9318 3 жыл бұрын
It all depends, ive had both rifled and smooth bore, at 50 yards i missed all 6 rounds at a group of 4 running deer with sabot slugs out of an 870 express with a rifled barrel, but had one round one kill at 100+ rounds at a running deer....point being, sabot slugs and rifled barrels are not always the best. Its all about comfort, and practice. Also ease of use, most smooth bore has a single bead for a sight, where rifled barrels mostly have rifle type open sights.
@Odin31b
@Odin31b 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your content.
@markhoffman4587
@markhoffman4587 3 жыл бұрын
I love that he parked his truck somewhere behind his targets.
@willbranson3216
@willbranson3216 4 жыл бұрын
I used my Remington 11-87, 12 gauge, that had a 21" cantilever, rifled barrel barrel with a 1.5-5X20mm Leupold scope as both a squirrel and black bear gun, with Winchester 385 grain Partition Gold slugs. It worked equally well on each. 1.5" three-shot groups at 75 yards. Accuracy with the same gun, scope and ammo was also great when using a 21" cantilever SMOOTH barrel and a 5" rifled choke tube.
@cousinfuzzy4544
@cousinfuzzy4544 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. Thanks Paul
@darklight4815
@darklight4815 6 жыл бұрын
love this guru and every single video he posts...so wish i would have had him as an instructor or something back in the day..but he's schooling me now so i'll take that!..thanks Paul !
@unclegeorge6175
@unclegeorge6175 6 жыл бұрын
He's Schooling everybody. You can learn everything about guns from Paul and GunBlue490.
@hatfieldmccoy0311
@hatfieldmccoy0311 2 жыл бұрын
I was talking with my buddy today about shooting rifled slugs through a rifled barrel a and I had to check a couple things out independently, low and behold my man Paul has a video on that too. Semper Fi brother
@Pointman-yf6or
@Pointman-yf6or 5 жыл бұрын
Paul, from one old combat vet to another, nice channel, nice presentation from you. About this video. I do believe rifled barrels are more accurate, but I do have a smoothbore that will tell a different tale. It's an Ithaca model 37 feather lite pump. It's kind of unusual in that it's a 20 gauge. I got this as a Christmas present from my wife in 1971. Got the slug barrel, regular barrel, and vent rib. The slug barrel will group 4 inches at 75 yards every time. I love this shotgun, especially since I am left handed. ( still have the scar on my right cheek from m14 and m16 brass hitting me) and yes if you hold the trigger down and pump her she will crank em right out. Regards and welcome home brother
@dannyoleksiak7792
@dannyoleksiak7792 7 жыл бұрын
Paul I recently found your channel and love your content. Could you do a video on realistic accuracy goals. Ex. How tight of a group is really good enough for rifle and pistol. Thank you
@jamiesloan5902
@jamiesloan5902 5 жыл бұрын
danny oleksiak From 50 yards, I can hit my 10" gong 95% of the time, with my TX-22 pistol, but it took some practice(years). With a rifle... 2" groups at 100 yards, is plenty efficient for hunting(1" is MOA). 6" groups from 25 yards is plenty efficient, with a self defense handgun. I shoot slightly better than I recommended, but I've been shooting for a long, long time. Start off by trying to shoot 4" groups from 10 yards, with your handgun, and just stay at it. You'll get better, and better with time. Trust me.
@vgahren
@vgahren 4 жыл бұрын
Paul’s like the uncle you never know you had. Being new to shotgunning, I found this extremely helpful. Seems to me, firing a slug through an improved-cylinder barrel is almost like a musket ball through a flintlock, kinda.
@vincemcmahonreadskoran3120
@vincemcmahonreadskoran3120 3 жыл бұрын
Supposedly muskets maximum deadly range was 75-100 yards. The ball was small enough to roll right down the barrel so you can imagine how much more it would bounce around barrel walls compared to a slug. For sure a shotgun is everything those line infantry guys wish their muskets was especially in terms of reliability. Flintlocks are finicky andeven if wind and rain aren’t preventing them from going off eventually the hot gunk in the barrel from the black powder will. Guys had musket cleaning tools with brushes for the pan and picks for the touchhole right on their cartridge box strap or somewhere else they could get to it in the heat of battle.
@devinpetersen2387
@devinpetersen2387 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you were able to slug things out.
@montanamountainmen6104
@montanamountainmen6104 7 жыл бұрын
One thing I learned is if using slugs IMP CYL. works best less deforming when exiting the barrel. I've used Foster slugs out of my 1897 Winchester it groups them great at 100 yards, but as stated the more open the choke the better they do.
@Loganb611
@Loganb611 7 жыл бұрын
So it is my understanding that when you fire a slug through a full choke barrel, it will actually slow the slug down slightly because the lead needs to be stretched to fit through the hole. Could you put this to the test by firing the same slugs over the chronograph out of either the same gun with removable chokes, or out of two guns one with a full choke one with a cylinder bore?
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 7 жыл бұрын
Good topic. I'll put it to the test if I can find the gun(s).
@judgeroygreen7046
@judgeroygreen7046 4 жыл бұрын
Sabot is not pronounced with a hard A. It is pronounced with a soft A, the same as Sabotage. It's French for shoe. Workers used to sabotage factory machines by putting a wooden shoe in the gears.
@durandil
@durandil 3 жыл бұрын
Where I live (in Europe), smoothbore shotgun are harder to get (due to gun control) than rifled shotgun. Some manufacturer decided to make rifled shotgun with nearly straight grooves. When you shoot buckshots or birdshots, it's nearly as a smoothbore barrel.
@clintonzhu3868
@clintonzhu3868 10 ай бұрын
First time I saw some one fired a slug out of a modified even a full choke. So this convinced that we can fire a slug out of a modified/ full choke in an emergency.
@TheKlickitat
@TheKlickitat 7 жыл бұрын
I shoot a lot of slugs and have found that shotguns are very finicky about the rounds they shoot, with no two being identical in what they like. I have however found that more often than not, shotguns tend to prefer lower velocities rather than higher velocities. If you get the chance, find some Fiocchi 1050 fps slugs. The inserted wads that stay with the slug and act like a shuttlecock really work well for stabilizing them and in most of my smoothbore shotguns they work very well.
@R32R38
@R32R38 7 жыл бұрын
My Maverick 88 sometimes has trouble ejecting Remington shells, but does fine with Federal and Rio.
@mattkrapfl6349
@mattkrapfl6349 5 жыл бұрын
bingo. shoot hot slugs and your pattern will really open up. you can always hold higher. Good luck hunting successfully if you have no idea where your bullets gonna hit
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 4 жыл бұрын
Brenneke slugs did group tighter out of my smoothbore shotgun than Rem. Sluggers, but the ol' Sluggers weren't too bad either.
@paststeve1
@paststeve1 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great offering! Is it possible that the rifled barrel won't shoot a doughnut pattern with bird shot unless it's a law enforcement shotgun?
@dlighted8861
@dlighted8861 5 жыл бұрын
Good one.😁
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Lol hahahaha lol My son calls that a “dad” joke because it’s corny lol
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 5 жыл бұрын
I have to say I love the fact that you’re a man of the cloth. Thank you for teaching and sharing the word of God. Cheers mate
@rhabdob3895
@rhabdob3895 5 жыл бұрын
Heyoh !
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 4 жыл бұрын
Ba-Dum-Tish! :D
@Bravo21
@Bravo21 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate you as always Paul, and I'm 'Just saying'... but for folks using a Shotgun for deer, pigs or black bear, I would suggest not shooting the 12ga at all. The ballistics and terminal performance of the 20Ga using a rifled barrel is the better option imho. The Riffled 20ga shooting something like the Remington Copper Solid, Accu-Tip, Expander Sabot, Hornady FTX, Federal Vital-Shok, and similar Slug loads gives you an accurate 20Ga Rifle that is effective to 200yrds with outstanding performance on game.
@andrewhaley8992
@andrewhaley8992 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like my back yard. Thank you Mr. Harrell for all of your awesomeness.
@billterry967
@billterry967 7 жыл бұрын
I have all ways wondered what would happen if you shot slugs through a full choke. New sub here love your video's you are truly one of the most firearms educated man of all I've seen. Any video's on the use of choke tubes duck goose and deer season is upon us and what choke to use on what is confusing Lol.
@R32R38
@R32R38 7 жыл бұрын
The rifling on a conventional Foster slug is mainly to help it fit through a full choke, rather than to make it spin.
@cadetrenew
@cadetrenew 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was always told you'd blow the barrel. Glad I found Paul Harrell's channel! I could've been shooting slugs through my Mossberg auto this whole time.
@jic1
@jic1 7 жыл бұрын
R32R38 Actually, it *does* impart spin in a smoothbore barrel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLiAopRqqb3Qio0.html
@michaelkoba2139
@michaelkoba2139 6 жыл бұрын
I thought slugs of any kind could open up a full choke on a fixed choke or blow out a screw in choke?
@mrhellotherehowareu1384
@mrhellotherehowareu1384 6 жыл бұрын
I shoot slugs all the time in a full choke.
@savagemako17
@savagemako17 4 жыл бұрын
Your last shot with the shot through a rifled barrel would prove effective for most people and shows how the so called myth of just pointing a shot gun and hitting anything in front of it can actually happen. In a home defense or Zombie attack...that 6 foot spread would come in handy! As always, great videos!
@benthere422
@benthere422 7 жыл бұрын
Another factor affecting accuracy is ammo choice. Case in point, I have a 60 year old Mossberg bolt action 20 ga., smooth bore, single gold bead sight. Winchester 3/4 oz. rifled slugs have terrible accuracy. But Remington 5/8 oz. rifled slugs gave a 6 inch pattern, centered 2" low, 2" left of point of aim. This is at 75 yards, bench rest. And yes, this is my go to gun for deer in shotgun zones.
@dankosek2355
@dankosek2355 2 жыл бұрын
Paul, you are so right. I have a 20 gauge Mossberg Trophy Slugster (24" rifled cantilevered barrel with scope mount). I put a 1.5-7x scope on it and it holds a 2-3" group all day. I have a bird barrel that I put on when I want to hunt something not big game. When you said $5 bucks for non-sabot and $7 slugs I almost swallowed my spoon (ice cream time)... Then I realized how old this piece is...
@benwest3223
@benwest3223 4 жыл бұрын
Well, if ever I decide I want to hit EVERYTHING in the same zip code as my target, I know what configuration to use.
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this Paul! As usual, good info :)
@jimlacefield7176
@jimlacefield7176 7 жыл бұрын
As always good info! I use rifled slugs through a rifled barrel. Because I'm cheap......and hunt deer in thick woods at close range. Only issue I've found is that rifled slugs lead up the bore pretty hard. Just a good scrubbing at the end of deer season takes care of it.
@curtschoonmaker217
@curtschoonmaker217 6 жыл бұрын
You saved me 30 days of messing around looking for my own answer. Thank you.
@GunSam
@GunSam 7 жыл бұрын
A buddy and I were shooting 00 buckshot out of a rifled barrel, and it was hilarious. One shot was scattering the shot 20 feet high at 50 yards, the next shot might be 20 feet to the left or right. It was being a true "scatter" gun, just scattered everywhere. Overall i'd rather have a smooth bore any day of the week for general use.
@royharrell1760
@royharrell1760 7 жыл бұрын
Gun Sam most smooth bores will shoot open sights/bead slugs to 100 yards really well. Wouldn't ask much more from a rifle. Rifled shotgun barrels with scopes are for those shotgun only deer hunts or shot gun seasons in eastern states. I feel those barrels really limit your shotgun to one purpose instead of many.
@GunSam
@GunSam 7 жыл бұрын
My state of MI limits rifle use in the lower half of the state where it's more populated with people. But recently, they have also began to allow for the use of straight walled carbines in rifles such a .44 mag, 500 mag and the like. The interesting thing is that studies were done that showed that shotgun slugs can travel as far as a mile while skipping across the ground, as where rifle bullets usually do not travel far at all after hitting the ground. It makes you wonder how they ever came up with all of the hunting rules that they have, probably an accidental shooting one time from a distance with a rifle, and without studying all the facts, they came to the conclusion that rifles are bad in a more populated area, and that shotguns "can't" shoot far.
@alexoelkers2292
@alexoelkers2292 6 жыл бұрын
Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_ possibly many laws are made out of fear and are pushed through quickly due to a tragic incident.
@rhabdob3895
@rhabdob3895 5 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in guns, disinterested in gun “culture” and love this channel. Also. Who’s truck is parked behind the targets?
@SaraphDarklaw
@SaraphDarklaw 4 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat for you. I call them ammosexuals. Paul is great for dry data.
@deltazulu2848
@deltazulu2848 4 жыл бұрын
Rhabdo B for what it’s worth, gun culture is really demonized in the media. The foundation of gun culture is safe handling and proficient shooting.
@bigmike8586
@bigmike8586 4 жыл бұрын
@@deltazulu2848 i thought gun culture was stockpiling ten thousand rounds of 7.62 and 3D printing full auto drop in sheers for ARs
@deltazulu2848
@deltazulu2848 4 жыл бұрын
Big Mike I don’t know anyone who does that and I hang out with a lot of “gun nuts”
@robaldridge6505
@robaldridge6505 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigmike8586 'sheers' ?????
@distantlight1995
@distantlight1995 7 жыл бұрын
Paul always makes his subscribers feel like they are part of the video!
@BlindxSide
@BlindxSide 7 жыл бұрын
Just want to say Paul I love your videos, and something about them is almost addicting. Love the information and work you put into years of content, keep it up!
@rdrun51660
@rdrun51660 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, I am having a hell of a time sighting in my shotgun with slugs at 50 yards, yet you are doing better at 100!!! LOL
@justinv3080
@justinv3080 7 жыл бұрын
Paul any chance we'll get a revisit to the 10mm videos using Underwood, Buffalo bore or double tap?
@galen1183
@galen1183 7 жыл бұрын
Justin Miller, Underwood Ammo's ammo vs the meat target.
@sethtenrec6476
@sethtenrec6476 7 жыл бұрын
+Galen Isaiah +100!!
@lancemagnotta5768
@lancemagnotta5768 3 жыл бұрын
Call me a novice. Is it going to hurt a rifled barrel to shoot rifled slugs? You rock, sir.
@philipvanvaerenbergh5062
@philipvanvaerenbergh5062 7 жыл бұрын
Something to consider regarding slugs through a full choke. Alloy of the slug in question can be a factor. Dead soft lead like most foster (rifled) slugs should be fine. The "rifling" on the slug is designed to compress going through a choke, not really to give the bullet a spin. The softness of the lead allows the compression. However, some brands of slugs (like Brenneke), use a much harder alloy that may not allow this compression to occur. Use at your own risk, especially with older/thinner barrelled shotguns.
@rickpaul9565
@rickpaul9565 5 жыл бұрын
Federal makes a Truball Deep Penetrator is an excellent slug (and usually can be found fairly cheap !) that gains its deep penetrating power from being a "harder' slug. The slug has a high antimony content which makes it much harder than normal lead slugs. The Truball is one that would definitely NOT recommend to shoot through a full choke.
@kentwilliams4152
@kentwilliams4152 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, “SAY BOW” is correct.
@HypocriticYT
@HypocriticYT 5 жыл бұрын
20 ga sabot slugs in a semi auto rifled barrel shotgun are accurate and low recoil. Don't need a 12ga to get your deer, a 20 ga does fine and flatter shooting
@frankbutta9344
@frankbutta9344 7 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh..... I climb into bed, and a Paul Harrell video appears on my iPad. Thanks Paul!
@fightingbear8537
@fightingbear8537 7 жыл бұрын
Paul is a knowledgeable instructor. He answered alot of questions.
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