Retool? Rebuild? Those words don't exist in the GM's dictionnary until Crosby and Malkin retire

Rebuild is right around the corner but I doubt they start it until Crosby retires.

As a Red Wings fan…looks eerily familiar to the 2014 onward Wings. They need to rebuild, but won’t do it while they’re still close to the Playoff line.

Pittsburgh is sunk for a bit, but they have enjoyed a lot of success for many years

The Pens got a lot better when they aquired Bunting. He was the piece they were missing. Karlsson also looked a lot better the last few weeks. If they can add some bottom 6 scoring and if Crosby can pull another season like the last one, then they will be competitive. They will need to rebuild soon, but until father time catches up woth Crosby, he deserves to have another go at it.

I saw it as a sign last year that someone didn't know what they were talking about when they said the Pittsburgh had bad defense. Our defense was fine, if not actually good. The problem was definitely more so the dry offense outside of Crosby's line

The future of the Pittsburgh Penguins (team performance wise) is bleak

Joel Blomqvist is Finnish!

As a fan from the 15-16 and 16-17 years, I am grateful for the years of success we have had since then. But I do agree it is time for a rebuild. If 8 of the skaters who played for the team last year were over the age of 32, that doesn't seem to be a workable situation when the most of the contending teams are several years younger. I don't think a lot of this can be put on Dubas tho, he came in when this team had only missed one year of playoffs. The idea to get this team with three legends still playing back into the playoffs is not an overly demanding ask. I want to give Dubas a shot at managing this team into a good, healthy rebuild similar to what Montreal is doing now. They will need to heavily invest in their pro and amateur scouting during this and the following offseasons but I think we can be at least competitive in two or three years if we rebuild properly.

These guys are basically in the same spot as the hawks of 5 years ago now

Jarry also got a goalie goal this year. 😁

Karlsson just didn't work in Pittsburgh. I would prefer he be shipped off elsewhere. Wouldn't mind seeing Smith and Rakell go too.

With how FSG is running the Red Sox rn, I would not be optimistic Pens fsns

Nice to hear that it sounds like Shannon read my comment regarding this Draft class being "bad" I was mostly being overdramatic but I applaud your response 👏

9:06 Blomqvist is Finland-Swede, (native finn who speaks swedish). Only a few months younger than me, and while i dont know him, he grew up a 25 min car distance from where i did :D

Why does everyone forget the penguins don’t have their 1st

If their PP would've worked as well as you can argue there is potential for it to do, they'd at least have been in the playoffs.

You are wrong about how detroit stopped trying. Ken holland still kept trying. The wings roster just wasn't good enough to make it. Holland refused a rebuild which is why yzerman was brought back home and holland got moved to upper management before quitting

Just a reminder, the last two times the Pens fired their coach during the season, they won the Cup...

The biggest problem with Pittsburgh was their powerplay. Even a few more goals and they would have been in the playoffs from OL points. The kind of player they needed was a Nichushkin/Horvat/Hyman type player who screens the goalie and gets the cleanup/tip in goals. Bunting is that kind of gritty player and he fit right in with the team. But he isn’t a replacement for Guentzel. This summer, Dubas needs to re-sign Sid, keep Bunting and Nedeljkovic, try and get Guentzel back. Maybe get Domi or Bertuzzi for that chippy, hard nosed player which Pittsburgh lacked pre-Bunting. Smith hasn’t played as well as he should. Rakell had injury issues and his scoring was up towards the end of the season. I would give Yaegar a chance this season. Third line with Eller or Malkin and some top powerplay time. Other problems - toughness, losing focus in the third period, stamina. I definitely think that this is a team which doesn’t know what it is doing. If they’re selling at the deadline, why only give up Guentzel? Ned was having a good season. Surely Edmonton or Colorado would have been interested. And if selling, why not tank the team this year, get the too 10 draft pick and then win next year. Pittsburgh’s finishing situation is the worst possible. They missed the playoffs but lost their draft pick (probably).

So something people need to consider is Dubas was actually willing to change in Toronto which he publicly said and they fired him for it.

Last years draft was much deeper.The Rangers got Gabe Perreault with the 23rd pick in the first round

Love that logo

Let’s go. I’ve been waiting for this video

Dubas doesn't know how to build a Cup contender. He only look for star players. Look what he did to get Karlson. Karlson wasn't what this team needed...

So many questions and so few answers! I agree that they are in the same position as Toronto and need to make significant changes!!!!! Doubt they will as long as Sid and Geno are playing though. :(

San Jose, part two. I’m a fan but their short-term future looks rough.

I love that they’re about to be in hockey purgatory for the next decade. Can’t wait.

Oh boy…. He gave Mike Sullivan the “I think he’s ok”…. Been nice Mike… sorry

But bringing Karlsson to San Jose worked out so well for them when they were starting to fall off. Why wouldn't Pittsburgh want to do the same?

Henryk Zetterberg 1999 210th.

Retooling and rebuilding are two totally different things. I think they're done retooling, and I truly hope so. The big question is when. WHEN does this long overdue rebuild start in earnest? Probably should have started 2-3 years ago. If they're not going to rebuild, I feel that 4-5 acquisitions between the ages of 37-41 are appropriate. 🤔🤔🤨🤨😳😳

As a pens fan they definitely need to retool. Love Crosby but probably won't win another title with him.

Great Video, as usual, Shannon - Are either of those terms in The Vocabulary of Pittsburgh (Penguins)? I think, from what we saw with Jake Guentzal Trade to Carolina, we're likely going to see Kyle Dubas star in The Toronto Connection (I'm guessing that Dan Aykroyd - A Canadian - would be in it in A Gene Hackman Leading Role - LOL). On A Serious Note, I'm thinking that he's going to go after many of The Players The Toronto Maple Leafs had/have during his time as Their GM. Let me know what you think

Saw this thumbnail and immediately thought that a Tavares/Marner for Crosby/Malkin trade could happen.

Will you be making an end of season video about the Blues?

Sullivan staying will be directly proportional to if Keefe becomes available

The Pens and the Caps are sort of the in the same situation. They have an aging or already aged core that's being over paid. However, where the difference is... The Pens I actually think have a better team, but they aren't really fighting for anything right now, so they should be doing a full rebuild The Caps are more stuck in my opinion because the whole team is basically built around getting Ovi multiple all time records but mostly the goal scoring record. So they can't really do anything until he either gets that or retires.

"Stupid hockey guy, thinks all the prospects are bad."

They need to retool. They could have a good 4th line if the guys they got for the 4th line had played but they were injured the whole season, Accari and Nietto. They need to trade Reily Smith and get the best possible 3rd line center. They have players that can fill roles, but they need to find third-line guys that can score. They still have a decent top 6. Malkin's line looked a lot better with Bunting. If they can get Graves to play well their defense is good, with plenty of guys they can plug-in like St. Ivan y and Shea.

The fact that the pens even tried to make a playoff push at the end instead of fizzle out for a better draft pick was a ballsy move. Crosby either needs to retire or get traded because as long as he’s on the team they’re still gonna try to push for a playoff spot despite the fact they really need to start a rebuild. 0 playoff round wins since 2018 and then missing the playoffs last year should’ve been the sign but they really tried pushing for a spot at the last possible moment.

I hate ESPN Hockey Night and I am searching every single avenue to watch the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Canada 🇨🇦 Channels

How poetic is it that the Sharks and Penguins met in the Cup Final nearly a decade ago and both are going to fall under the same trajectory. Just that the Pens have a cup.

Father Time is undefeated. Until Crosby and Malkin are ready to retire, I think the Pens will just continue to try to use bandaids and hope they can stay in playoff race as long as possible. Making playoffs would be a bonus.

Crosby holding them hostage from it.

Is just making the playoffs a goal? Choose to Wait too long you won't have assets to trade and you will be stuck with a complete rebuild. Retool and trade some of your older star players and get younger and perhaps return to being a contender sooner.

Shannon....Geno Malkin played with stiffs most of the season (Reilly Smith & Rakell both were dreadful). There were times Sullivan had AHL level talent like Colin White on the Malkin line. They didn't utilize him correctly on the PP (Letang is perfect at setting Geno up with one timer bombs but EK can't put a puck on tape for a one timer to save his life) as they insisted on Karlsson passing to Geno & it never worked. Then they got away from even trying to set up Geno for one timer bombs on the PP and eventually demoted him to the 2nd PP unit (a terrible mistake by a terrible PP coach who has been fired). Geno was better 5:5 than the previous 80+ point year & that's with inferior linemates (until Bunting came aboard). One Bunts was added to the Malkin like Geno was flying around every night (last month of season). This also coincides with Malkin's parents visiting the US for the first time in 6 years. Malkin's play was considerably elevated after his parents arrived and Pens were the best team in hockey the last 3 weeks of the season. Pens PP numbers were abysmal and Malkin's and Sid's numbers suffered because of it. Sid had 94 points. I watched every minute of every game. Sid looked more like a 110-120 player. The anemic PP (terrible coaching) curtailed the numbers of many of our players. Malkin has indeed lost a step but still retains a howitzer of a shot, great vision, elite skill/playmaking and the heart of champion who can still get 80+ points. 67 points is not a true indication of his level. This was a down year points wise for every Penguin not named Sid.

Shannon just curious to know if you know how much the salary cap is supposed to go up for this coming season?

When he does Detroit there’s like 8 players he can add for On The Way

the end to this season was, in a word - extremely annoying !

As pit fan I said last summer it’s over Kyle dubas thanks to him has no first round pick as pens should be grateful 3 cups wins back to runs 4 cup finals 5 eastern conference finals appearances winter classics stadium series I am for ever grateful for everything my favourite player Crosby and malkin and tiger did for the franchise it’s time to rebuild one thing I will say if it wasn’t for jimmy after 2017 trying stop Tom Wilson they would be still contenders and Ron hextall wreck the team like I said forever grateful

1 point away from the playoffs last year, 3 points behind this year. i see a trend here

My team is now very average.

They wont be able to rebuild until Sid, Malkin, and Letang retire. I say this as a fan of all 3. Sid is my favorite player ever and even as elite as he still is, I dont think they will truly rebuild until he retires

Pittsburgh learn from the San Jose Sharks mistake they kick the can one too many times, and have ended up in a situation where playoffs aren’t likely for almost a decade when all is said and done. Lots of aging players, and not a lot of assets or prospects in the pipeline.

trade veteran or two to Utah for draft picks and prospects?

This draft class is weaker now however they said the same thing 2017 and that draft has some pretty good players Makar, Oettenger, Heiskanen, Hischier. And many more. There's no McDavid however still a lot of really good players.

Mitch marner is gonna be out in FA possible Pittsburgh makes a run on him ???

I doubt Karlsson gets moved. Paid a price to get him, next season should be better for him, so I think they roll with it. Jarry is a tough spot, no one is taking that contract and I think there’s a lot of doubt in him. Ned probably gets a bump, so whether that’s with Pens or someone else, we’ll see. You almost need a 1A 1B with Jarry, he costed Pens more games than stole (but when he’s on, MAN he’s ON)

When Karlsson was traded to Pittsburgh I was hyped that we would have the best blue line, disappointed is an understatement they didn’t click and I think trading for picks for that upcoming rebuild is probably the play if I was Dubas

Pens need to let Crosby finish his hockey career as a Penguin before going into full rebuild mode.

I also feel Like Crosby is a guy who was drafted by Pittsburgh and wants to end his career in Pittsburgh which I don't think we've seen (a player drafted by a team and then stays with the team the whole time) since Super Mario maybe?

It's not the same as Burns and Karlsson. Letang honestly has nothing to do with it, as he's more all-around type than OFD anymore. Karlsson is just a double-edge who cuts more against than for his team. We've seen it his entire career, save a few fleeting periods of getting covered for (e.g., Methot) or having no need to play defense anyway because the team clearly sucks, so might as well look out for No. 1 (Sharks last year). I'm amazed at how many smart hockey people deny their eyes when it comes to Karlsson.

The one thing I hate about THG is how he keeps saying this year's draft is entirely made up of people who have never played hockey.

The question isn’t if the Pens need a rebuild/retool, it’s if ownership will allow for it.

The Penguins made their bed when they signed Malkin and Letang to those ludicrous extensions instead of shipping them off for younger talent. Now it's time for them to lie in it - and as Red Wings fans circa the 2010s can attest, they're gonna be lying in it for a long, _long_ time.

Here comes Keefe!

Washington's future looking a lot better than Pittsburgh. DC while struggling at least has some good talent in the pipeline coming up Pittsburgh...oof

Malkin lost a step or two before he signed his most recent extension

Blomqvist is Finnish fyi

Trading Crosby and Malkin will get them atleast 3 1st rounders. They would also have the cap space to take on a bad contract for another 1st. They could speed this up if they wanted to.

Pittsburgh could have dumped Malkin and Crosby and been in the same place.

I still wonder what would happened in 2018, if Penguins would won against Capitals would they have won 3rd straight cup. What do you all think?

Cosby 11 mil. contract at age 36, how is asking its not stupid, but how will pay is😄. Penguins need a rebuild and they need to get younger😁

The fantasy GM in me says double down. Clear out either Graves, Smith or Rakell contracts. Move Malkin to wing and give Stamkos a 1 year 10 million dollar deal. On a side note, had Todd Reirdon been fired in January and not now, I think this is a playoff team, and comfortably slow.

It's time! I have been saying this for years... Time to say buh-bye to Crosby, Malkin, and Letang.

Maybe Pittsburgh should have traded for Hertl instead of Karlsson

My opinion they need to trade all their draft picks for the remaining years crosby will be here. We don’t have time to develop players or we are just wasting crosby’s/Malkins final years. Then after they’re gone go back to developing players. We need NHL proven players now. They screwed themselves by going on that hot streak, if they wouldn’t have they would had a chance at the lottery draft but now lost the 1st rd pick all together. Idk about Sullivan. Every time we got a new coach in Crosby era we went to the cup the following year.

A retool would maybe bring them a 1st round. Rebuild is the only real option. Sure we have Crosby and malkin and the other, but they are not what they where. They can't drag this team to another cup. And to be frank are three home games really worth it?

If their power play approves than last season, I think they should be back in the playoffs, other than that, I don’t know what to make of this team.

If Pittsburgh continues to try making anothing Cup run, they're more likely to make the rebuild take just that much longer. Unless they win another lottery with a generational player. Which will make the other fanbases absolutely thrilled.

Karlsson I think was a mistake in Pittsburgh? A signing mistake? How many old players by hockey standards let's add another one? Need younger with the older? Sid the kid is still putting up kid points

what u said sounded like finnish Joel, swedish Joel would be pronounced more like Joo-L. 😎

As a very superstitious hockey fan, I'm a bit hesitant to say this but I think people are making WAYYY too big a deal about the Penguins being down for the count. Yes, there are issues but they are very fixable issues. The power play killed them this year. If the PP was performing even marginally better than it did, this team would have finished easily at 100+ points and in the playoffs. A little better success in not blowing it in a few of the O/Ts puts them in the playoffs. Those 2 things alone are coaching. If they fix things behind the bench, both in Pittsburgh and WBS, they'll be in good shape for another Cup run. The coaching issue also clearly applies to the "young guys vs. old guys" debate in every social media forum. Look at Drew O'Connor, Ludwig and St. Ivany when given a change. Puustinen is on that cusp, as is Poulin if given a change. Having said that, I'd still say give up on Graves if possible and see if Vegas wants to reverse the Reilly Smith deal since he liked it there and they only made the trade because of their own cap space, which changes this year. Goalie question is hard but I'd still take just about any deal to move Jarry. I don't think he's happy here and the team needs to have greater confidence in a guy, regardless of how many shutouts he puts up. With Jarry, it was either a SO or a disaster, it seemed.

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I think Sid is a very superstitious guy & that is why he is paid 8.7 million. He might not take another number (I’m pretty sure I heard that somewhere).

Malkins totals were sunk by having black holes on his wings. Better depth, a league average power play, and Dubas not sitting on his hands all season puts them right back in the playoffs. As a penguins fan I don’t have any delusions of them getting another cup but I want 87/71 to have a good last few years and in my mind that means making the playoffs regardless of anything else.

Loooooooooong road ahead. Dinosaur core, no prospects, albatross contracts. Love to see it 😍

It is definitely time for a rebuild for Pittsburgh. They just do not have good young players. Crosby carried them this year, and can’t expect him to keep that up going forward.

Wait... Dubas brought in an expensive player long term, who really isn't what the team needs? Who would've thought... cough cough Tavares cough cough

Jarry needs a 1B

I think they'd be making a mistake keeping Sullivan, not that he's a bad coach but I think they need a new fresh voice. That being said, as a Caps fan I hope they do.

What? Retool or Rebuilding? Those words and actions don't exist in the Penguins GM's strategy book until there legends Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin retire! Both are under contracts and both have no-trade clauses that can't be lifted unless one agrees to that team offered. Since both seem to be steady in Pittsburgh and the fans always love having them there, then not much can be done till they leave. While Crosby is still a very good producer and a much valued asset, Malkin (who I have liked a lot) seems to continue degrade in the production factor. And despite getting Erik Karlsson, the 3-time Norris Trophy winner it still did not change things up. The team went dormant most of the season and not till when it was arguably to late they woke up, and esecally Crosby fired all cylinders and near himself carried the Pens. And oh how the Penguins should so ever regret trading away the great Marc-Andre Fleury. Ever since then they have not had solid goaltending.....

erik karlsson to cbj

Crosby should continue to be a point a game, but Malkin will be worse. Letang was always a defensive blunder, now he cant even get points. Karlsson production wont be anything special. I suspect they won't be that close.

1 jarry was bad 2 smith sucked. 3. Rakell and sullivan should go.

Unless they're willing to move on from core players it's pointless, on top of that I dunno how they're gonna move that horrible EK contract without taking a beating.

Crosby for Marner.

Too old it's not gonna happen.