Naomi T Drake you want mainstream media to call privileged white boys thugs? Good one.

Naomi T Drake no need to bring race into it

Naomi T Drake what a fuckin racist you are lol

AJ T your right it a awful situation. I had a friend die of a herion overdose. because the people that was there that night was scared to call for help because they was worried about getting in trouble themselves. and they finally did call it was to late. he done die by the time help got there

@@barryguyer8005 same thing happened to my older bro

I think people started saying that because people were suing people for defamation of character for basically telling the truth but people will lie on others as well A HUGE example IS TASHA "WISH SHE WERE CARI B" K ( TASHA K)

adampincente209 He supposedly kept warning and asking the other brothers to call 911. I personally think that's bullshit because he could have called 911 himself without telling the other brothers.

adampincente209 he isn't black ??...

ok, the half breed.

@@adampincente209 super late but okay Draco Malfoy

BLADesCOre how Is he black ??? Lol

@@everythingbebe anyone who has a mix of black in them isn’t white to some white people

Razorfendown I agree

Razorfendown while if you want to join the "fun", you have to prove it. So that's probably why.

They do. Most universities require freshmen to complete it. While it isn't necessarily fun to go through, you can't not learn something from it. The University of Georgia uses AlcoholEdu, I'm sure there are others.

Okay. Let me just try to understand. Somebody gets a head injury. He's unconscious. And the people around him, just assume that he's just sleeping off his drunkeness. I'm guessing they just didn't know that if you become unconscious from a head injury, you're supposed to go to the hospital in case of a concussion. Then maybe we need proper basic medical education for everyone. Because just informing everyone of wrongdoing isn't solving any problems.

RehanRC you're not wrong.

Yes thank you. I actually attended a live presentation about this from his parents and after hearing the facts it’s no one’s fault but Tim’s. I don’t get why people are so quick to dismiss the fact he wasn’t supposed to be drinking at all and yet when an underage kid decides to drink in excess terrible things can happen. It’s sad but it’s not anyone’s fault but Tim’s and they really just manipulated the story and emotions to get people mad at the fraternity and pass blame onto others.

it's called knowing when to stop administering the booze to someone...the drinker gets so inebriated that they don't know when to stop. That's why bars and bartenders are liable.

Oscar B.R. Are you nuts?!! You CAN totally blame the frat...They had enough sense to call for help but they chose not to.

Here is how. He was a minor. Determined by the state, and psychology, to be mentally undeveloped enough to recognize the effects of alcohol. They not only providing him with it (illegally), but pressured him to drink it and then failed to get him help when he experienced ramifications (negligence). You can't give a kid alcohol. In the eyes of the state and psychological community, he is still a kid. If someone falls down a flight of stairs you call EMS immediately. Everyone knows that, unless you played a part in it. Which these guys see they did and failed to take responsibility for their actions and his wellbeing.

additionally, they did not help him. they could have called an ambulance instead of watching him diep

@@teresacontreras4999 Tim was allowed to leave at anytime. These pledges weren’t locked in a room with a bottle. They were drinking on their own accord and never were taught to say no I guess. Tim decided to drink, gets too drunk, falls a couple of time and sustains injury that leads to death. It’s his fault not the fraternity’s.

Yes it wasn’t hazing at all, but a pregame event. The pledges could leave at anytime and were not chained with a bottle to finish. The parents just attacked the wrong people and failed to see their underage son should not have been drinking and was at fault.

This was 100% what happened. Hearing them give the real story at a seminar they held was eye opening they just wanted to manipulate the story for themselves. Tim was at fault for drinking and attending this event willingly. He was allowed to leave at anytime but didn’t and when an underage kid gets drunk bad things can happen.

does not matter. all of that flies out the window once multiple witnesses see an unconscious injured person, proceed to hit and slap that unconscious person, refuse to call the authorities or help for HOURS, and then try to cover it up. his death was super preventable and their choice to do nothing is now their fault.

@@whowouldcare542”attending this event willingly” i don’t think you’re understanding the magnitude of alcohol that they drank. and the fact that someone fell down the STAIRS and nobody did anything. told a bystander that there was no need to call for help. not to mention that this guy tried like hell to come to consciousness but couldn’t due to the injuries he had sustained. on top of those existing injuries one of his frat “brothers” allegedly punched him in the face, had shoes thrown at him and backpacks placed on him in order to stop him from rolling over. at one point do you stop and realize that yes, maybe joining a frat is not a good idea-however, you can have empathy towards a person that COULD have been saved if they had been surrounded by people who cared more about the sanctity of human life rather than their stupid fucking frat getting in trouble. god

Wake up. ikr...& Nixon talking about. "dont worry" ...what is he talking about???

Ryan Smith he probably didn't drink often

Ryan Smith he was younger and probably didn't drink a lot yet

Ryan Smith they said his alcohol level was .47 Who knows what his alcohol level was when this incident actually happened. They tested him 12 hours later

Ryan Smith I think we also have to remember that when his level tested at that it was hours later.

He also had a serious head injury