Persona 5 Royal - Deadline ending

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BuffMaister

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Persona 5 Royal - Deadline ending

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@aidenle7352
@aidenle7352 4 жыл бұрын
This ending is creepy as hell. So basically, Joker doesnt charge his phone. He just cuts off everybody from contacting him. I dont think any of his friends gonna come and check if he’s ok. Because they’re all living in their ideal fake reality and forget about him. Or even Maruki brainwashes/rewrites their memories about Ren, so that they forget about him. Even Lavenza cant reach Ren because his will is no longer rebellious (“i dont want to think anymore...”) this is the worst ending
@BrothDavv
@BrothDavv 4 жыл бұрын
So the twins and Lavenza can reach him only because of his rebellious spirit? I never got that. Then again, there's still a lot of the Persona world I don't know or don't get. Thanks for having said that!
@hamyman35
@hamyman35 4 жыл бұрын
i think his phone just died because its been so long
@hedgehogsonic11
@hedgehogsonic11 4 жыл бұрын
I think Lavenza can’t reach him because the metaverse itself has been erased and refused with reality
@JustShimothy
@JustShimothy 4 жыл бұрын
I think he's sleeping because he's a wildcard so usually the illusions don't effect him like on the other routes(He faintly shows signs of seeing through the illusion). So in the failed ending that Joker didn't respond to Maruki's question by not showing up. Maruki took him out of the equation by putting him to sleep on drugs until he dies peacefully in his sleep. Since Joker was the last remaining person to cognitively remember the denizens of the velvet room that means they officially die with him. This ending is really sad, like dayum.
@JustShimothy
@JustShimothy 4 жыл бұрын
Also if you consider the ending to be like this then Maruki believed that Joker dying without having the option of choice was the best ending for him even if it meant killing him.
@thegarlicbread4422
@thegarlicbread4422 4 жыл бұрын
What freaks me out is that you can see cobwebs everywhere in the attic, implying that Joker has been asleep for a very long time, and will probably sleep for eternity.
@luisfernandopasquinelli2787
@luisfernandopasquinelli2787 3 жыл бұрын
And yet... That plant looks the same. Why did I even bothered buying the fancy fertilizer? That thing will outlive us all.
@ferchii13
@ferchii13 3 жыл бұрын
Hummm another sleeping persona mc huh 😂
@requiem165
@requiem165 3 жыл бұрын
Yh
@emilienewcomb512
@emilienewcomb512 3 жыл бұрын
and nobody came to help him?
@requiem165
@requiem165 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilienewcomb512 mauki controls them now
@alfie4234
@alfie4234 3 жыл бұрын
Ending in a nutshell: *Don’t* wake up, *don’t* get up, *don’t* get out there.
@azophi
@azophi 3 жыл бұрын
Morgana: good boy
@lowhp_comic
@lowhp_comic 2 жыл бұрын
Stay asleep, stay down, stay in here
@Aperez
@Aperez Жыл бұрын
His Royal Days are now Royal Nights.
@abrahamambriz892
@abrahamambriz892 Жыл бұрын
Sleep, lay down, and seal yourself, forever...
@gerarquiaFM
@gerarquiaFM Жыл бұрын
Colors flying low
@danz8520
@danz8520 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that lavenza cant even reach him and the state of jokers room is proof that he is long gone.
@trollzor85
@trollzor85 3 жыл бұрын
That's Philemon he just helps lavenza get to places and helps her voice reach the protagonist. He dies because since this is the perfect reality people don't need to put on personas. Making him powerless
@wrathofthesagegaming
@wrathofthesagegaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@trollzor85 no, that butterfly is confirmed to be lavenza philimon's flower form isn't as detailed(just a simple blue or gold butterfly), while lavenza has the "tails" on the ends
@dragonwrath582
@dragonwrath582 2 жыл бұрын
@@wrathofthesagegaming I read on an iceberg video that the lavenza butterfly is actually philemon, hes just helping lavenza speak to joker.
@sopaipillasss
@sopaipillasss Жыл бұрын
@@dragonwrath582 iceberg videos are FULL of theories, half the shit in there you cant really trust unless it's an actual thing that happened
@mrex666productions7
@mrex666productions7 4 жыл бұрын
I like how you are the only one who appropriately marked this ending as a deadline game over instead of a bad ending.
@alexrecrem9094
@alexrecrem9094 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is a pretty bad ending
@goroakechi2216
@goroakechi2216 2 жыл бұрын
I wish every deadline ending was different other than Het coffee good for you Or what the heck or Ren sleeping forever
@TheRealAdachi
@TheRealAdachi Жыл бұрын
@@goroakechi2216 that would be cool if there was a different short ending for if you miss the deadlines
@smflash
@smflash Жыл бұрын
​ @goroakechi2216 since the game starts in media res and was actually just a recollection for over half the time, it makes sense why all the deadline endings before you finish Sae's palace since none of them actually happened and are just Joker misremembering I mean, missing Shido's deadline gives you a different ending than the others ones since it's the only one after you start playing in the present
@LenaSpark412
@LenaSpark412 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I’d argue this is the only “bad ending” out of the whole third semester. Joker is basically completely forgotten about. I think the accepting his reality is an alternate ending
@zaqareemalcolm
@zaqareemalcolm 4 жыл бұрын
The "Morgana Wins" ending
@ripoffkattmoss2308
@ripoffkattmoss2308 4 жыл бұрын
*I WIN*
@yourneighborhoodmemelord2451
@yourneighborhoodmemelord2451 4 жыл бұрын
HE WINS
@Zerokin
@Zerokin 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and Morgana is still A human now.
@juniperos
@juniperos 3 жыл бұрын
@@dumbmonkey1313 not funny
@Zerokin
@Zerokin 3 жыл бұрын
@@dumbmonkey1313 Human Morgana is Melodias.
@rayyt5566
@rayyt5566 4 жыл бұрын
Eventually, Joker stopped thinking...
@velvetcrowe1399
@velvetcrowe1399 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a....
@madmuffin2842
@madmuffin2842 4 жыл бұрын
JOJO REFERENCE!?
@xMatz115
@xMatz115 4 жыл бұрын
Ultimate joker
@dangarbagecanman
@dangarbagecanman 3 жыл бұрын
Except he’s not floating through space
@icycrystals2382
@icycrystals2382 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel his room is
@AJkingwing
@AJkingwing 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: This ending is so dark... Me: Yeah...they got rid of the Ryuji bowl...
@setech4441
@setech4441 4 жыл бұрын
I was more worried about Maruki getting rid of chocolate fountain, after all where am I supposed to get my chocolaty sugary goodness now
@frisk7951
@frisk7951 3 жыл бұрын
You fools.. the true crime is that he got rid of the Jack Frost plush
@drinksoap6827
@drinksoap6827 3 жыл бұрын
What about the poster ?
@peaceofyoshi
@peaceofyoshi 2 жыл бұрын
Haru's kumade :c
@encl9644
@encl9644 2 жыл бұрын
Futaba power ranger (pheonix ranger)
@MsAmiClassified
@MsAmiClassified 4 жыл бұрын
"Your indecisiveness on the matter is essentially a betrayal"
@revyara6392
@revyara6392 3 жыл бұрын
Robbie Daymond got me fucked up 😭
@flacoargentino1939
@flacoargentino1939 3 жыл бұрын
They truly made an excellent work with Akechi's arc, both in the original game, as in the P5R arc. Also, the voice acting of Akechi is freaking awesome.
@bomes2084
@bomes2084 3 жыл бұрын
@@flacoargentino1939 mad props by far the most talented va i’ve seen
@gretahhounshell3061
@gretahhounshell3061 3 жыл бұрын
"You can't be serious tell me you're joking"
@sierraa.bryant9322
@sierraa.bryant9322 5 ай бұрын
IM IN TEARS
@Spacecuba
@Spacecuba 4 жыл бұрын
This is easily the most gut-wrenching bad ending in the franchise, holy shit.
@benyshubenbub7665
@benyshubenbub7665 4 жыл бұрын
Idk man... the accomplice ending it pretty bad too...
@ARAnime
@ARAnime 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the p3 bad ending. Its clearly the worst one when you think about it
@niar1726
@niar1726 3 жыл бұрын
@@benyshubenbub7665 Have you seen the Adachi deadline ending? It's even worse
@maki_taki_taco
@maki_taki_taco 3 жыл бұрын
okay but have you seen persona 2’s ending: even when you beat the final boss you still get a bad ending
@Kaiser5657
@Kaiser5657 3 жыл бұрын
@@maki_taki_taco Persona 2 IS, the game where the power of friendship doesn't work
@SkyKoopa5
@SkyKoopa5 4 жыл бұрын
Becky's been doing a crap job while I be sleeping smh
@evandevore2627
@evandevore2627 4 жыл бұрын
She had ONE job and she couldn't even do that smh
@ericamcqueen5607
@ericamcqueen5607 4 жыл бұрын
@@evandevore2627 I mean, she has two jobs, but she is pretty bad at both
@evandevore2627
@evandevore2627 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericamcqueen5607 oh right she's also a teacher, But that's straight facts lmao
@arukorubasuke
@arukorubasuke 3 жыл бұрын
Becky isn't paid so why should she come?
@requiem165
@requiem165 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@UlasSar
@UlasSar 4 жыл бұрын
We don't see jokers face, considering he's slept for months or even years he's probably got a full beard now
@narukami6364
@narukami6364 4 жыл бұрын
Very literal but I paused frame by frame and you see a part of Joker's face and he doesn't have a beard. It's obviously the exact same model of Ren because the Devs feel the need to make a new one just for this ending, but even considering Maruki, he probably kept Ren the exact same. No need for food or water, he doesn't grow a beard, lose weight etc. He's just the same Joker but 'trapped' in a sort of time-lock, not even dead. Kind of like Door-kun but without purpose if you think about it.
@benstin
@benstin 4 жыл бұрын
You can see his fingernails though - they look longer than the usual model (I'd have to check, though)
@orpheusbreeze
@orpheusbreeze 3 жыл бұрын
@@benstin his fingernails were the first thing i noticed! i'm pretty sure they were intentionally longer on purpose to indicate how long he's been asleep
@Humblemud
@Humblemud 3 жыл бұрын
but at least the plant is still alive.
@dtrain2499
@dtrain2499 3 жыл бұрын
Dare I say this is the only time Maruki comes off as evil? In the other endings, he just came across as misguided yet still somewhat kind. I get his distorted reasoning here, but he easily could have given Joker (his “guiding light through his research” who he “bears no ill will towards”) a happier life. Instead, it seems all of his friends, the most important thing to him, just forgot about him. Maruki is a fantastic antagonist, but this almost felt out of character for him. Truly dark ending.
@notrelevant5582
@notrelevant5582 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Maruki, deadline endings are never cannon to any extent (Like Futaba's deadline ending). They're always meant to be depressing and a little bit anticlimactic, which I would say this is. But yeah, honestly I half expected this ending to cut to the "False" Ending eventually, but maybe Joker's indescion is what's holding him back from enjoying either reality, rather than anything else.
@cobra_commander2255
@cobra_commander2255 3 жыл бұрын
There is a twisted logic to it. Maruki believes that having to think too much is stopping Joker from being happy, so he takes away his thoughts.
@Thesaurus_Rex
@Thesaurus_Rex 3 жыл бұрын
Maruki, even as a god, seems _really_ bad at subtle actualizations. And it seems like he's unable to just actualize someone into a happier state, he has to alter their reality or cognition into removing the source of their unhappiness (he'd probably have trouble helping someone who was depressed because of only chemical imbalance). So, when he realizes/decides that Joker is unhappy because he can't decide what reality to live in, Maruki thinks the only option for his happiness is to remove that decision by depriving Joker of both realities. So this doesn't seem like evil so much as the end point of Maruki's tendency to choose extreme options with his actualizations. If he can't figure out how to make someone have happy thoughts, he removes all thoughts, because a lobotomy is preferable to suffering in his eyes.
@ramennoodles304
@ramennoodles304 3 жыл бұрын
A man made reality can only go so far
@DoomfaceVagabond
@DoomfaceVagabond 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Maruki have no intentions to kill or harm Joker ,but If he leave Joker as he is now he could interfere Dr.Maruki plans again, so he has to destroy his "soul of rebellion" by cage him in eternity sweet dream even Lavenza voice can't reach Joker anymore....i guess.
@BlackBeWhite2k7
@BlackBeWhite2k7 3 жыл бұрын
1:59 those last two lines from Maruki are chilling. Easily the most fucked up bad ending...Maruki basically puts Joker down like a sick dog...left to be forgotten about by all of his friends and the rest of the world.
@allenharper2928
@allenharper2928 Жыл бұрын
Yep, the kid that saved humanity's free will by beating a god, left to waste away and die in his own filth like an animal. Maruki is asshole.
@tommylanger7686
@tommylanger7686 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the health inspector comes to Sojiro because people are complaining about the smell at café Leblanc. "Mr. Sakura, why is there a decaying dead person on your rooftop?!"
@evanfromfnae1227
@evanfromfnae1227 Жыл бұрын
I think his friends also suffered the same fate since they agreed to stop Maruki as well.
@VanNessy97
@VanNessy97 Жыл бұрын
It's no different from a mental shutdown.
@mrepicdood9953
@mrepicdood9953 Жыл бұрын
@@tommylanger7686 Funny enough Joker doesn’t die, so he’ll just sleep forever, all the inspector would see is a sleeping man (though Joker has probably somehow remained in the “old” reality, or perhaps Maruki made a new reality just for him to sleep in.)
@FoShoMang
@FoShoMang 4 жыл бұрын
This is literally how depression looks like... Just sleeping your life away... Yikes lol
@jsphn2008
@jsphn2008 8 ай бұрын
Easily the scariest Persona 5 ending.
@TheBrutalSax
@TheBrutalSax 3 жыл бұрын
Joker pretty much underwent a mental shutdown, just without that violent heart attack type death that Akechi had the ability to give. Or maybe cause in this world, you can’t die, he just lives like this for eternity.
@jasonmydreams18
@jasonmydreams18 2 жыл бұрын
The creepiest part is realizing the problem isn't that he forgot to charge his phone... It's that it was probably fully charged and he's slept long past the time it took to die again... And that's ignoring the possibility it just doesn't work anymore because Joker has been sleeping for years and it's too old to function anymore.
@Leafair2017
@Leafair2017 4 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to think anymore." He then falls asleep again, cobwebs surrounding him from his possible millennia of sleep. This is a fate worse than death, as you can't die and spend forever in a restless void of slumber... ironically enough.
@WeaponXSigma
@WeaponXSigma 4 жыл бұрын
Even worse, he's sealed off from reality as well
@Slowpoke3x
@Slowpoke3x 3 жыл бұрын
would you rather die or sleep forever ? I mean at least sleeping is mostly comfortable barring the odd cramp or nightmare. Plus dreaming is awesome hell better then being awake.
@ferchii13
@ferchii13 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slowpoke3x pls ask p3 mc for more info hahaha
@cobra_commander2255
@cobra_commander2255 3 жыл бұрын
Maruki's last line about days and years makes me think Joker will sleep until he dies.
@princecharming8125
@princecharming8125 3 жыл бұрын
Time to exterminate Maruki
@squid_soph9269
@squid_soph9269 4 жыл бұрын
this ending is so uneasy that it stresses me out the 'I don't want to think anymore' is the worst part
@Erven777
@Erven777 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite bad ending in the game. It truly does an amazing job of making you feel like you failed. The other palace fails were all the same thing but with slightly different diolog. And the Shido's had a problem of not changing after Akechi's death. This one truly does tell you that you failed to reach your goal. I love it
@cyschan
@cyschan 2 жыл бұрын
akechis so determined on arresting joker that he forgot he was supposed to play dead
@lunamariamiraestels7408
@lunamariamiraestels7408 2 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of discussion on how this is 'out of character' for Maruki since he's legitimately kind and good hearted but he 'put Joker into a coma so he's evil'. I don't think the idea is that he wanted to rid of Joker here, but that he truly believes Joker is suffering in this situation, that Joker will be happier if he just stopped trying so hard and... rested. It's forceful of course, like he was so forceful trying to convince the part of Sumire that wanted to be herself, but Maruki just thinks this is some 'hard love' on his part and that he has to do this for them because they don't kow what's good for them and are just hurting themselves at this point. Of course this is all awful but it's still coming from the same Maruki as always that can't stand seeing others suffer anymore either.
@lsfaraone
@lsfaraone Жыл бұрын
Just another symptom of his distorted cognition, similar to in the Machinst DLC for Fallout 4, the Robobrains go on a rampage murdering people. The Mechanist insists they were given the directive to "help" the people of the Commonwealth, but the exceedingly unfortunate matter of how the Robobrains approach problems is that they see things "logically". According to their own logic, existence itself for humans in the post-apocalypse is suffering, and thus the only true way to "help" those in suffering is to simply end their suffering(and their lives, ofc). Technically speaking, while flawed, their logic isn't necessarily wrong. Similar situation with Maruki. The fact he has a palace should show that he's already long gone anyway in being lost in his own desires and distortions. While his logic is flawed, there's still a twisted sense of reasoning to be had. Sadly, Maruki can no longer see the options beyond polar extremes just like those Robobrains.
@lokiliesmith5505
@lokiliesmith5505 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this existed, I thought you'd get the usual "bad" ending regardless of whether you didn't go to the palace, or didn't get the palace done. This hurts on so many levels I can't. Also I never expected Maruki to have a bad bone in his body, only to be quite mislead, but he actually *punished* Joker. Ow.
@hedgehogsonic11
@hedgehogsonic11 4 жыл бұрын
This wasn’t meant to be a punishment- like with all things, Maruki had good intentions, but terrible means. He wanted to relieve Joker of the pain of overthinking, so decided to just remove Joker’s desire to think
@lindsey7544
@lindsey7544 3 жыл бұрын
hedgehogsonic11 he's evil
@wes_cab
@wes_cab 3 жыл бұрын
You only get the Bad ending if you choose it. As Maruki said, he was only willing to give the bad end out of Joker's acceptance, so if Joker can't even decide to agree or oppose Maruki, then maybe this is what's "best" for him.
@jamgrams3244
@jamgrams3244 2 жыл бұрын
@@lindsey7544 I wouldn't say he's evil, he's more chaotic good. Maruki doesn't want people to suffer, but he's only human and can't read your mind. To Maruki, Joker didn't know what he wanted, but neither did Maruki. Joker was showing signs of indecisiveness, so Maruki decided he was better off not having to decide anything. Doesn't change that what he did is bad, though
@Kuroimine
@Kuroimine Жыл бұрын
Actually he not punishing Joker. Maruki simply want Joker resting without having to feel guilty or thinking about Joker failure. He don't want force Joker to accept his reality because he respect Joker, as Joker are one of most reason why his research went success. So for Maruki, this is the 'best' for him. Also, the reason why this ending is unlike the ending of failure clearing other Palace, ise because Joker already inprison in real reality (Since Akechi already died and Ren take his place instance). This is another reason why Maruki did not kick Joker from his ideal reality.
@TonySnacc
@TonySnacc Жыл бұрын
My interpretation of this ending is that Maruki wanted to give Joker a happy ending, but was worried that he’d keep rebelling and trying to disrupt it, since he still refused to accept it. So, instead, he removed him from everyone’s memories and gave him sweet dreams instead, where he can still be “happy” while also being out of the way. Incredibly fucked up, but I really like to play with this ending - is Akechi still around? If he is, does he remember? What if someone were to come across him in the attic? Could he be woken up if someone remembered him? Does Sojiro know he’s there? Almost certainly not, but maybe he comes up there, sees him, and then forgets about him the moment he leaves. Maybe no one can see him at all.
@Arcsin27
@Arcsin27 10 ай бұрын
These are great fanfic prompts tbh
@oldy4080
@oldy4080 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, nobody is going to remeber Joker - not even Akechi. Mementos fusion has been complete, so Maruki became omnipotent - which made it impossible to defy him, even for a Trickster. Even for Lavenza, who tryes but fails to reach Joker. As for does anyone see him, Maruki could have brainwashed everyone into beliving that sleeping guy at the attic is normal - like, he has always been here and always will be.
@writer_man5318
@writer_man5318 7 ай бұрын
Ponder this - there might be a fake Joker running around with his friends who got to move into Sojiro's house. After all, the dead already came back in Maruki's false reality.
@zacharywilson-fleming46
@zacharywilson-fleming46 4 жыл бұрын
"I must've forgotten to charge it" I mean shit, we see him grab his unplugged phone some nights so as far as we know he's never charged his phone since he arrived at Leblanc
@nefarioulyte9996
@nefarioulyte9996 Жыл бұрын
thats one hell of a battery lol
@maestroleonard
@maestroleonard Жыл бұрын
@@nefarioulyte9996 his phone Is secretly a nokia
@Guardinko
@Guardinko 4 жыл бұрын
Me: I have no fear! This deadline ending: I exist y'know ? Me: Mom help me I'm scared
@adaplay13
@adaplay13 4 жыл бұрын
And the bad ending when you accept Igor treat? Is so creepy. You sell your teammates by leaving all in a prison in velvet room forever. And Joker lives alone in a false world. Also in my first game I got the bad ending where Akechi shoots me. Really bitter final. This game has a really scares endings
@Guardinko
@Guardinko 4 жыл бұрын
@@adaplay13 Yeah it's creepy but it didn't scare me in fact but yeah it's depressing to see that ending, Joker is just the second traitor of the Phantom Thieves with that ending... I didn't had any bad end (except the 2 new endings in Royal because I wanted to see them and I don't have a life lmao) but I agree, the ending of this game are really scary... Persona 4's ones are scary too when you think about it, only Persona 3's is less scarier...
@yordi-7658
@yordi-7658 4 жыл бұрын
adaplay nah this one is some real shit
@jairocatalo1064
@jairocatalo1064 3 жыл бұрын
@@Guardinko what happens at persona 4 and 3
@jamgrams3244
@jamgrams3244 2 жыл бұрын
@@jairocatalo1064 P3's bad ending is S.E.E.S. losing all memories of the dark hour, thus forgetting to stop the end of the world. In P4, the Investigation Team can conclude that Namatame is the killer and throw him in the TV for one: attenpted murder, and two: throwing Nanako, a little toddler, in the TV. In this ending, Dojima, the protagonists uncle, thanks you for killing him, and for avenging his daughter, Nanako. Or you can choose to not throw Namatame in the TV, which still results in the end of the world. Lastly, you can side with Adachi, the true killer, and betray your friends. This also results in the end of the world
@monado-tony
@monado-tony 4 жыл бұрын
The one time Jokers phone needed to be charged But honestly this is such a scary ending glad I didnt get it
@YuubiTimberwolf
@YuubiTimberwolf 4 жыл бұрын
Curiosity got the better of me and holy shit i am SCARED SHITLESS about this ending. I am a grown adult but that is true horror, fuck man.
@ryanlarkin4405
@ryanlarkin4405 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, this is so disturbing I had to check the comments to make sure I wasn't the only one deeply affected by this. Talk about amazing writing.
@sparklingraine
@sparklingraine 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't slept in a single morning after seeing this
@pickcollins9910
@pickcollins9910 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine Igor and Lavenza probably spent upwards of years trying to find Ren. Maruki probably figured this out and wiped Lavenza from reality, probably as a way of warning Igor to not meddle in his reality further...
@TyTeaStrings
@TyTeaStrings 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t surprise me, Maruki has the strength of yaldy supposedly. Yaldy alone took out Igor and lavenza.
@rigby8701
@rigby8701 3 жыл бұрын
@@TyTeaStrings Maruki is far beyond Yaldy. He is by far one of the strongest characters in the series.
@spec7923
@spec7923 3 жыл бұрын
@@TyTeaStrings probably above Philemon or at least equal if even he hasn’t been able to free joker, I think it makes more sense to think the butterfly is lavenza but sometimes it’s also Philemon
@oldy4080
@oldy4080 9 ай бұрын
I love how that ending shows how really messed up Maruki's reality is. Many people argue that Maruki's "happy" ending is actually good, because nothing bad is happening or implyed here - and therefore denying it is a mistake. But the deadline ending here shows the main problem: omnipotence of one man. Maruki himself decides for every single human being on Earth what is happiness for them - and then forces his will on them. He decided it would be better for Joker to sleep eternally - and put him to sleep without asking for his opinion or consent. Doc decided for Yusuke's classmate that it would be better for him to switch from painting to archery - and made him belive he was happy with it. Just what he could possibly decide next? This is just too much power for one man. Of course Doc is benevolent - he doesn't wish harm to anyone - but he is still a human being, and human beings are flawed. And as we all know, power corrupts - and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Will Doc keep his benevolence in 10 years? Or 50 years? How can we be sure he will not go mad from unlimited power and permissiveness? Like Akechi or not, but he is right on this one - in Maruki's reality every person is Doc's plaything, completely at his mercy.
@iqd2072
@iqd2072 4 жыл бұрын
Door-Kun: **first time?**
@ferchii13
@ferchii13 3 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@dorkistantkd6233
@dorkistantkd6233 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao what made me laugh in this ending is that maruki is basically saying oh you can’t make up your mind than go the fuck to sleep
@lsfaraone
@lsfaraone Жыл бұрын
"Shhhh, Shhh, No tears, only dreams" *smothers you with a fucking pillow*
@kawaiikalamari3974
@kawaiikalamari3974 3 жыл бұрын
I personally like to think that since Maruki appeared in his dream that it means that the full actualization was completed. Since this is his reality, he’s taken over the Velvet room, there’s no more need for a Trickster. Butterfly Lavenza fading away symbolizes this.
@adammorin2955
@adammorin2955 2 жыл бұрын
I think the butterfly is Philemon. After this cutscene it goes back in time. I do agree though Maruki appearing into Joker’s dreams is frightening.
@hipersonicc9736
@hipersonicc9736 Жыл бұрын
@@adammorin2955 Philemon is always mentioned everywhere i swear lol
@adammorin2955
@adammorin2955 Жыл бұрын
@@hipersonicc9736 because he is one pf the gods of the persona universe. You first meet him in p2 and is the reason igor is a being of the velvet room and is intrigued by humans. Ever since p2 eternal punishment he has been gone trying to regain power and is seen as a butterfly. It was also confirmed that the butterfly in p3 was him. So the fan base sees a butterfly it’s him
@noakinn
@noakinn Жыл бұрын
@@hipersonicc9736 who would of thought one of the most important characters in the persona franchise and the master of igor is mentioned often
@NovaXII
@NovaXII Жыл бұрын
@@adammorin2955 Although I do think the butterfly is Philemon it could also be lavenza considering she can turn into a butterfly as well
@nurihighwind5871
@nurihighwind5871 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, this legit freaked me out. Even more than p3 and p4 bad endings. 😨
@lowhp_comic
@lowhp_comic 4 жыл бұрын
Cause P3 didn't look like a bad ending and P4 still has your character going back home safely, this one has it very clear you are doomed, and not even dead, just trapped so far not even Philemon can save you
@mrex666productions7
@mrex666productions7 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's around as freaky as the endings where you fail to give an appropriate response to Sae or Akechi just shoots you in the head. (I mean, the deadlines.)
@one-wingedangel5107
@one-wingedangel5107 4 жыл бұрын
Understable give that A. You don’t want to even think anymore B. You've lost all sense of caring for everything else C. Not even the bonds, nor the wardens can reach you D. You're a horrible representative for the human race by failing so much you've made us lose our thoughts of what a real reality is.
@sharkicito9210
@sharkicito9210 4 жыл бұрын
@@lowhp_comic You mean that after Yu saw Adachi and he goes in that black tunnel he still survive?
@sharkicito9210
@sharkicito9210 4 жыл бұрын
@@one-wingedangel5107 what do you mean
@hilariousindividuals3746
@hilariousindividuals3746 4 жыл бұрын
This ending freaks me out too much, it makes me sad and upset for Joker since he lost contact with his friends&family and is in sleep enterally.
@elretardo111
@elretardo111 3 жыл бұрын
"It seems like this is the reality Morgana wished for"
@TheGhostOfTK
@TheGhostOfTK 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the darkest endings ever, and one of my fears, losing control of myself, and Ren lost his will, so he stopped thinking, trapped in a never ending slumber 😰
@neutralplayeroflol5722
@neutralplayeroflol5722 3 жыл бұрын
If Ren/Akira wants that, then it is not suffering to him, but we are suffering looking at him, like my old classmate enjoying his smoke life and I feel pain looking at someone I knew in my childhood
@WeaponXSigma
@WeaponXSigma 2 жыл бұрын
Considering Maruki's power of actualization, its much worse than what you described
@aggressivepianonoises813
@aggressivepianonoises813 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Akechi doesn’t even utter a single word in this ending…
@The_B_Button
@The_B_Button Жыл бұрын
I think it's because Akechi being present during the third semester is actually optional. They probably didn't think it was necessary to give him dialogue.
@mrepicdood9953
@mrepicdood9953 Жыл бұрын
@@The_B_Button it is?
@The_B_Button
@The_B_Button Жыл бұрын
@@mrepicdood9953 There are videos of it online iirc. Unless I'm misremembering, Akechi either does not get revived if you don't have R8 by the end of Sae's Palace or you just miss a bunch of cutscenes. Although I'm pretty sure it's the former, and Akechi basically does not exist for this entire arc if you didn't meet the conditions earlier in the game.
@NoGirlsAllowed
@NoGirlsAllowed Жыл бұрын
​@@The_B_ButtonI think it's just some bonus cutscenes that are missing, and you also can't unlock his second awakening, of course. I think Akechi's not being here is more likely to be because Maruki's reason for actualizing him was related to Joker, and if Joker isn't around, then the initial reason for bringing him back is gone. Unless you're referring to the scene where everyone is at the table, in which case... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@ilcapitano648
@ilcapitano648 4 ай бұрын
This ending right here is the reason I will never buy into Maruki’s reality. No matter how you perceive Maruki and his character, this ending objectively proves he isn’t mentally fit to hold the power he has. Condemning a teenager, one who saved the world nonetheless, to a fate worse than death, for the crime of indecision is one of the cruelest acts we see in the whole series. At best, it’s a horribly misguided act of kindness born from severe delusion, at worst it’s a spiteful act of petty retribution at someone not bowing to his whims. Delusion and spite are not the kinds of traits you want in your protector god. Worse still, if he’s willing to do something to abhorrent to Joker, of all people, someone he considered a friend, he’s clearly capable of doing it to anyone who defies him. A lot of people tend to overlook the ‘Madman’ part of Maruki’s ‘Gentle Madman’ title when analysing him, but he unleashes it to its absolute fullest here.
@hannahw7023
@hannahw7023 4 ай бұрын
He also has no problem depriving the rest of the Phantoms of their friend, leader, and the person who, time and time again, saved them. I assume Maruki would have altered their memories of Joker to make them forget, or make them think he moved back home. Either way, they will never see him again, because Maruki has no problem fucking up the lives of other people in pursuit of what HE thinks is best for them. Reminds me of when Maruki changed the life of one of Yusuke's classmates, turning them from an artist to an archer, since the student was struggling with artist's block. Maruki erased that student's entire body of work purely because MARUKI thought it was for the best. I understand that Maruki truly means well. But it baffles me that people actually agree with him and say his "Ideal World" isn't the bad ending
@gabrieljo5635
@gabrieljo5635 3 жыл бұрын
If you see at the end, when Joker just go to his bed, you can see that his room is all dirty and with spiderwebs, just made me remember that morgana at the beginning of the game said: "a cluterred room is a cluttered mind", refering to how he can´t think (or doesn´t want to) or make a desicion, adding the fact that he doesn´t want to talk to anyone (or maybe no one wants to talk to him because they´re living their dream life.
@bigmight2358
@bigmight2358 Жыл бұрын
Dude this ending is fucked on so many levels. The fact the joker wakes up and forgot to charge his phone means that nobody with his number could contact him. Lavenham can't reach him because joker has given up already, killing his rebellious spirit. Another creepy part of the conversation between the theives is that akechi, the only other person that realised the new reality says nothing the whole meeting showing that the person that had the most faith in you has also lost faith. In the other ending where u accept his reality he puts joker in a situation where its just like normal but everyone else is also happy. In this he completely cuts joker off from reality and practically kills him by putting him to sleep. Joker' second last chance to save himself was when he woke up and then the player is met with the horrifying message of "I don't want to think anymore" that is truly terrifying. The last chance was the butterfly that could Allert joker of his eternal slumber but it dies before reaching him. Thus ending is creepy beyond belief
@Cherry_Girrl
@Cherry_Girrl 4 жыл бұрын
You can (not) throw your mask away.
@TI_FGG
@TI_FGG 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about a cruel angel's thesis.
@WeaponXSigma
@WeaponXSigma 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine End of Evangelion's ending song playing during this ending and the end credits after this bad ending
@DJWarwing
@DJWarwing 3 жыл бұрын
_Tumbling down!_ _Tumbling down!_ _Tumbling down!_
@ricardomilos10
@ricardomilos10 4 жыл бұрын
well... that doesnt look happy at all maruki.... its rather quite a depressing ending, staying in bed ignoring everything
@dislikebutton1379
@dislikebutton1379 3 жыл бұрын
Then you must see the accomplice ending in P4
@ferchii13
@ferchii13 3 жыл бұрын
@@dislikebutton1379 my fave wnding in p4g tbh hahah
@007TheLife
@007TheLife Жыл бұрын
So Maruki basically gives Joker his version of a mental shutdown.
@GhostBoiDoesYT
@GhostBoiDoesYT 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck at least the "bad" ending had joker happy with his friends this is just him sleeping forever
@charlesjokers3190
@charlesjokers3190 3 жыл бұрын
1:55 the way Maruki said it, I thought he was going to kill Joker
@monsieursunflower123
@monsieursunflower123 3 жыл бұрын
He kind of did, in a way. Not literally, but making someone so sleepy and apathetic that they can't even think straight or even get out of bed is barely any different IMO.
@kemalerdemsahin410
@kemalerdemsahin410 Жыл бұрын
This is worse than death
@yamete_kudasai6969
@yamete_kudasai6969 10 ай бұрын
​@@monsieursunflower123sweet realistic dreams though
@renatos6711
@renatos6711 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I didn’t even know this ending existed, but it’s brutal as hell
@ARAnime
@ARAnime 4 жыл бұрын
This isnt the first time a protrag is sleeping for eternity
@troxciv8319
@troxciv8319 3 жыл бұрын
Door kun
@MuscleFlexChris
@MuscleFlexChris 2 жыл бұрын
Never got the bad endings but this one especially has inspired me to never be indecisive again 😂
@godzilla4189
@godzilla4189 4 жыл бұрын
The level of reality warping on display is something only Philemon and Nyarlathotep from P2 can pull off. Freaky.
@Yomim1984
@Yomim1984 3 жыл бұрын
Philemon and maybe Nyarlathotep need to return for P6
@stale_cheeto
@stale_cheeto 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, Azathoth is Nyarlathotep's ancestor
@stale_cheeto
@stale_cheeto 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yomim1984 That's not gonna happen, the most Philemon is gonna be acknowledged is when he's the glowing blue butterfly
@Netherman14TheHellblazer
@Netherman14TheHellblazer 4 жыл бұрын
What the fuck, Maruki? Would it really have been hard to just rewrite Ren's memories instead of forcing him to sleep for all eternity?
@mrsmiler2711
@mrsmiler2711 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad how sojjro doesn’t even come to check on joker
@yunalee1908
@yunalee1908 3 жыл бұрын
so joker is now bed-kun?
@NoGirlsAllowed
@NoGirlsAllowed Жыл бұрын
I was laughing my ass off, pissing everyone off by sleeping repeatedly until the deadline to see what the end result would be. But I got the willies when I saw this, holy hell.
@ninjaydes
@ninjaydes 5 ай бұрын
I kind of get this. Maruki thinks feeling and thinking nothing is preferable to feeling pain or sadness.
@MrBig23435
@MrBig23435 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this shot my anxiety level up. I was curious to see what would happen and I am SOOOO glad that I kicked Maruki’s Upside down Ass
@abrahamambriz892
@abrahamambriz892 Жыл бұрын
Our crimson angel has fallen into a void of hollow dreams, with no hope of opening his eyes again, in spite of the world begging for his immense force to save them from a false paradise, while his sorroundings slowly corrode into dust and all life forms breathe an air of sadness for the rest of our history. Is this the most painful destiny a person could suffer?
@sierraa.bryant9322
@sierraa.bryant9322 5 ай бұрын
Yes, it is.
@abrahamambriz892
@abrahamambriz892 5 ай бұрын
@@sierraa.bryant9322 God...
@Yomim1984
@Yomim1984 3 жыл бұрын
This ending is probably the worst as Joker has probably been asleep for years and now will be for eternity. It is as bad as P2 and P3s ending
@SincereSneakyy
@SincereSneakyy 3 жыл бұрын
This hits me because it's something I deeply relate to a lot of mornings.
@thatsruffdog
@thatsruffdog 3 жыл бұрын
You know how you kinda woke up but you're still basically asleep? And then you check your phone but then it doesn't turn on and then you realize it was just a dream and then you wake up and turn your phone on and it doesn't turn on and then you realize you're still dreaming. This repeats for several times until you're finally awake and you reach for your phone but you can't find it in your bed and then you realize that you never had your phone in your beed in the first place. And then you find your phone but it's dead and then you fall back asleep... and you never want to think again and you're stuck in slumber forever and then Lavenza dies or something.
@Tiredcream6472
@Tiredcream6472 3 жыл бұрын
The "Morgana's dream came true" ending 2:35 This is when the dream came true. Could you imagine what Morgana would have said if he was in the ending? I think I have one. Morgana: "Now THIS is what I am talking about!"
@MixSonaProductions
@MixSonaProductions 4 жыл бұрын
This motivates me to sleep... I don't want to think anymore.. Oh wait hold up. What happened to his other friends? Not even Sojiro's gonna wake him up?
@lightster585
@lightster585 4 жыл бұрын
Chances are that maruki made them forget about joker. Seeing the attic at the beginning of the game, Sojiro forgot about Joker and, once again, abandoned the attic. The others have what they want so maruki left joker out of their lifes.
@hachi7692
@hachi7692 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone got a perfect, ideal life, so they have no reason to rely on Joker now and probably just left him unchecked, who knows as it seems he's been asleep for a long time
@WeaponXSigma
@WeaponXSigma 4 жыл бұрын
Maruki sealed him off from the rest of reality. Causing him to no longer exist in the real world.
@77ale
@77ale 3 жыл бұрын
WeaponXSigma that’s terrifying
@lambousginiguccigod2007
@lambousginiguccigod2007 3 жыл бұрын
@@WeaponXSigma how so?
@KarroszuMiaka
@KarroszuMiaka 3 жыл бұрын
Why are all persona bad endings so sad af. Like literally i got chills and cried because of it.
@allenharper2928
@allenharper2928 2 жыл бұрын
The most horrible ending to me for Joker is when he's told that humanities ruin was coming to pass, and that he'd spend the rest of his life a prisoner in the Velvet Room...
@jamgrams3244
@jamgrams3244 2 жыл бұрын
Atlus definitely knew what they were doing when they made this ending. The fastest way to get this ending is to go straight to Leblanc and sleep.
@mythyrox
@mythyrox 3 жыл бұрын
"...Your indecisiveness on the matter is essentially a betrayal of my wishes."
@frosty5948
@frosty5948 2 жыл бұрын
*eventually, Joker stopped thinking*
@otakupower1048
@otakupower1048 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fate worse than death it’s so eerie both bad endings are but this is just hella dark.
@evanfromfnae1227
@evanfromfnae1227 Жыл бұрын
Considering how his friends also agreed to stop Maruki as well, I think they all suffered the same fate as him, put to sleep for eternity
@supermidoriya9323
@supermidoriya9323 4 жыл бұрын
The chills from this ending though
@_darumdarimda
@_darumdarimda 4 жыл бұрын
Only a kiss from a princess will wake him up.
@WeaponXSigma
@WeaponXSigma 4 жыл бұрын
Considering those cobwebs being there could signify that he may have been sleeping for months at the least, Lavenza probably tried that at one point.
@_darumdarimda
@_darumdarimda 4 жыл бұрын
@@WeaponXSigma only lavenza truly cares 😭😭
@minneeagle
@minneeagle 4 ай бұрын
I'd very much rather face whatever Hell I may end up than to sleep for the rest of eternity. This ending really sends shivers up my spine.
@ci7210
@ci7210 3 жыл бұрын
Got Persona 3 vibes with him going to sleep
@TheRenegadePlayer
@TheRenegadePlayer 10 ай бұрын
"Doktor, turn off my wake inhibitors." Doktor Maruki: "I'll do more than that."
@maliachristian5213
@maliachristian5213 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Morgana is disguised as Maruki so Joker can go to sleep forever.
@varcbringerv6605
@varcbringerv6605 4 жыл бұрын
In my words: "You were in sloth to reach your goal, you were lazy and didn't think of the consequences. I know now, I should just put you on a eternal slumber so you will think no longer"
@xen0sek08
@xen0sek08 4 жыл бұрын
Everything they fighted for just vanished like that Damn
@youwilldie8835
@youwilldie8835 Жыл бұрын
It's not shown in this ending but I believe this also implies one of two things in relation to Akechi 1) if he truly died IN Shido's palace and was brought back because of his relation to Joker, then he was erased from reality 2) or if he survived, because he is a wildcard like Joker and rejects Maruki's reality, and never believed it in the first place, he's suffered the same fate as him. For the other phantom thieves I can't say whether they're living their lives as seen in the fake ending (but without Joker) or if they are also going through this. Morgana is probably dead though
@modestzachman758
@modestzachman758 3 жыл бұрын
1:59 Me unplugging my Wii U for the final time after Pikmin 3 Deluxe comes out.
@JamesTheTurnbull
@JamesTheTurnbull 4 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, this literally depression. This is nerve wracking.
@tiffness270xJUDASx
@tiffness270xJUDASx 4 жыл бұрын
I am UNSETTLED.
@ryuumajin
@ryuumajin 3 жыл бұрын
1st person view, with zero battery, with spiderwebs. What a way to show "yea you players better not see his face now".
@bigboibebop
@bigboibebop Жыл бұрын
This is the hardest hitting ending simply because it’s literally just me, frfr. *I’m the guy in the photo.*
@AW-hb5ip
@AW-hb5ip 4 жыл бұрын
But no one came.
@bunndunn958
@bunndunn958 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the name of what plays at the end when joker’s asleep?
@bodacious12
@bodacious12 4 жыл бұрын
Another ideology
@benjo3_
@benjo3_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@bodacious12 Thank you very much!
@camilanylander9328
@camilanylander9328 5 ай бұрын
sighh. This ending may be one of my favorites because of how gut wrenching it is. Akira’s a character who struggles with his own identity, as if he were in a void of all his masks trying to grasp the edges of his own face, only to come up empty handed. He’s someone who chooses to hold all of his bonds close to his heart because they somewhat define him and give him a sense of “self”. Like a shapeshifter, he becomes what people need him to be while begging for his mask to not be taken because it will only reflect the ugliness of his true self. Thats why hes so attached to the Phantom thieves. Because Akira sees himself as not having any sort of tangible form, as if any attempts of trying to figure him out will only result in nothingness, an empty glass. But there IS something that defines him: his rage. He lets it take the form of his own resemblance and uses it to help others. The phantom thieves gave him a purpose, a face made out of pieces of each one of them, he let them define him after being unable to do that by himself. And while it was a mask, it allowed him to become something perceptible. And this ending kinda showcases that: how, without the phantom thieves, no one remembered who akira was. They all forgot about him while moving on with their lives, leaving akira alone back on that void of trying to figure himself out, having lost the only person who understood him and saw him as him and not the ever reliable leader of the phantom thieves. And now his spirit of rebellion died, leaving akira alone with no one who remembers him. Worst ending
@Kuroimine
@Kuroimine Жыл бұрын
IMO Maruki purposely putting him into sleepy state, so Joker no need to think a troublesome like "What can I do to stop Maruki", and also Joker no need to feel guilty if ever he going outside and look those reality created by Maruki (since Memento is permanently fused with reality and irreversible). The only reason why in turn to be this way is because Maruki do not want to force Joker to accept his reality. So Joker can keep sleeping eternally. I believe Maruki also making his friend to not thinking him much and be happier with the reality Maruki created, so no one can disturb Joker 'resting' including Sojiro. Not even Lavenza.
@lisahenry20
@lisahenry20 Жыл бұрын
One thing that gets me is that sure, you don't have the infiltration route by the deadline, but you could still send the calling card and try getting to the treasure to steal it on that last day.
@lsfaraone
@lsfaraone Жыл бұрын
One of the funny parts of narrative dissonance, since you can literally just run through the whole thing even on the day you go for the treasure in-game, since you don't automatically spawn in at the Treasure or something, you load in at the actual start of whole palace, which is kind of amusing.
@lisahenry20
@lisahenry20 Жыл бұрын
@@lsfaraone trying to do the whole palace after sending the card on the deadline wouldn't work in all palaces, like maderame's, futaba's, sae's, and maruki's, since the group had to do stuff outside of the palace. Although if needed, all except Sae's could possibly have been done in one day, if people not in the main party left the palace to do what was needed outside, allowing the main party to continue on. But they could at least try needed, instead of giving up and accepting what will happen.
@WeaponXSigma
@WeaponXSigma 2 жыл бұрын
Everywhere at the End of Time Stage 6 seems like a perfect song to play for this ending
@ZeedwareView
@ZeedwareView 4 жыл бұрын
This is Persona equivalent of Yuzu's ending
@sophiamthompson1149
@sophiamthompson1149 4 жыл бұрын
Hold up. How is the plant still alive?
@IamAliGamer_
@IamAliGamer_ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the Mega fertilizer
@RobotHunter1234
@RobotHunter1234 3 жыл бұрын
did sojiro just forget he had a fucking teenager living in his attic
@Xman34washere
@Xman34washere Жыл бұрын
*_you can no longer wake up, get up, get out there_*
@LightKing1237
@LightKing1237 Жыл бұрын
Remember how the general public was the sin of sloth?…
@antoniusstanley1366
@antoniusstanley1366 2 ай бұрын
come think of it after a really long journey they defeated shido and even yaldabaoth. but ends up getting mental shutdown by an ex-councilor lol
@roast_beef
@roast_beef 8 ай бұрын
Morgana's favorite ending
@anthonychung5611
@anthonychung5611 Жыл бұрын
In this ending without the calling card, you failed to complete the laboratory palace treasure route by the 1st of Feburary and then on the 2nd and 3rd it is the bad deadline ending just like accepting Marukis offers.
@redziak1810
@redziak1810 3 ай бұрын
no way joker is doing makoto yuki challange
@pancakes3877
@pancakes3877 4 жыл бұрын
Share if you don't think
@Tururu669
@Tururu669 2 ай бұрын
This ending in a way proves that Maruki is a coward, he doesn't have the guts to end Joker's suffering, even after winning he rathers let him suffer for the rest of his life than to kill him
@SeventhPow3r
@SeventhPow3r Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the sloth victim in Se7en. But whereas John Doe was trying to punish his victim for his sin, Maruki instead forced the sin upon Joker so that he could no longer feel pain for the rest of his life. Joker laying there and feeling nothing is the essence of the sin of sloth. In a way, I think Maruki had a better victim.
@comrnist5374
@comrnist5374 4 жыл бұрын
lmao this turns joker into door kun v2
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