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@Inu-baNews2 жыл бұрын
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@jen9036 Жыл бұрын
I had the thought that I wished he had a palace, but I also feel that Akechi's free will is essential to his character and something about changing his heart forcibly doesn't sit right with me. It's the same reason I view the Phantom Thieves as not being 100% morally correct. They are in the grey, just like Akechi is. It would be different if he was like Futaba and wanted their help. I think third semester is great, and while I wanted more, at least Akechi finally got to have free will of his own. He got to carve his own path.
@RandomGoldieStuff2 ай бұрын
Honestly this kinda has a fix for it: Don’t have the treasure be stolen, but have the palace be destroyed by Akechi’s own will. Think of Mishima’s social link (yes I’m using Mishima as an example) where you tell his shadow to go change his own heart and he actually does it, and Mishima stops what he was doing and changes for the better. Would make for some super neat character development, and would work for what he did in Royal where he stops caring about how other people see him and decides to drop the facade and carve his own path. That could work here too.
@tomascrosson7111 Жыл бұрын
Akechi is probably the most interesting character in P5 to me, so this was an awesome video.
@aliuwu182 жыл бұрын
the mythology nerd in me is obsessed with this shadow concept
@gostlythemaractus5342 Жыл бұрын
In my headcanon akechi has a palace the phantom thieves just never knew that
@kevisafan2 жыл бұрын
Persona 3 What if: What if Strega were a part of S.E.E.S? Or better yet Persona 5 What if: What if Mitsutu and the Shadow Ops were in the spin off Persona 5 Strikers?
@MoistyZX2 жыл бұрын
What if Strega was still alive (although Takaya may still be alive)
@Tari_10_Editz Жыл бұрын
Persona 4 what if: what if Yu Narukami died to protect his friends and yosuke hanamura is the wildcard in persona 4 golden to honor his fallen best friend
@oriongear24997 ай бұрын
Better yet: What if Strega were ex-SEES members?
@IceQueen975 Жыл бұрын
Ngl, this is actually kinda what I thought was happening in my very first playthrough of vanilla waaay back. I legit thought Makoto or Haru sold us out.
@rustyroast242 жыл бұрын
ATLUS: Persona 6 has been announced! Me: YES! My Wallet: NOOOOO!!! Also that picture of sae's shadow terrified me
@wolfherojohnson27662 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the will seed quotes
@eclipse9726 Жыл бұрын
i may have a critique or 2 i dont think the greek mythology thing would suite akechi, i very much think we could have a norse myths related places where akechi is well loki as in the myths because his character really reminds me of loki in the myths if you take a more sympathetic approach to loki. like and i can see shido as odin and all the corrupted adults goro was around in valhalla. i would go on but uh yeah dont want it to be too long, i dont think akchi cared all to much about the public i believe it was more so fake, akechi wanted what joker had in essence, idk this is all mumble jumble but yeah
@insertgamertag5369 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with this is that with Okumura having a change of heart means he admits to asking Shido to take hits on his competitors. Plus if we were to to remove this fact from the game then we'd also remove part of why the thieves target Okumura.
@shungite82405 ай бұрын
Isn’t part of the reason they change Okumura’s heart is so Haru isn’t forced into the arranged marriage?
@shungite82405 ай бұрын
Also the way he treats his workers would definitely be a reason for the PT to go after him
@insertgamertag53695 ай бұрын
@@shungite8240 okay i will take this criticism since this was a whole year ago though i will say that they wouldn't have known that if 1. Mona hadn't of ran off and found haru which might i add th reason he did was a mix of uselessness and the PT's indecisiveness over weither to change Okumura's heart 2. If haru's arranged "boyfriend" hadn't had shown his ass infront of them
@insertgamertag53695 ай бұрын
@@shungite8240 they didn't know if any of it was true though, yeah they saw how the bots were being treated but that was just his cognition, they didn't know if he was ACTUALLY treating them that unfairly. The only clue they have that he is is through rumors but those aren't hard proof and could be outright false.
@user-bv4vy8ju5n4 ай бұрын
@@insertgamertag5369It’s not Haru’s arranged boyfriend, it’s her fiancé
@zenowolfpirate1442 Жыл бұрын
I can just imagine what his shadow boss will look like, They be two of them the angle and devil the angle is going to debuff and party and buff him self to do holy dmg while the devil will constantly attack the party dealing lots of dmg to you and your party and you need to defeat them at the same time and dont take both out the other will get back up quarter of it hp regain.
@BootyCrusader Жыл бұрын
I would then replace Akechi’s persona Loki with something more fitting the Greek aesthetic.
@856Lavalamp2 ай бұрын
Yeah, and maybe adding the cognitive Joker to this since he is a rival to Joker while he's almost the same to Joker.
@kuraux56s592 жыл бұрын
I am gonna be blunt. This whole idea is a MUCH better way of implementing Akechi in the 3rd Semester! Like, yeah. Seeing Sae die in this version of events would have been incredibly painful. But at the same time. I really ended up liking this What If a lot more than I expected.
@RoxastheKeyofDestiny Жыл бұрын
Something like this needs to happen in Persona 6
@koby_mitchell2 жыл бұрын
What if Yosuke Chie and Teddi had dungeons in Persona 4 Please?
@Naotosbiggestfan242 жыл бұрын
This should if happened as ut has amazing story!!
@Inu-baNews2 жыл бұрын
Aww thank you so much!
@zarkiwi732 жыл бұрын
What if Satanael-no-Okami
@ValunarTonix Жыл бұрын
Satanaelpheus-no-okami picaro
@ABP0727 Жыл бұрын
satan but god
@InternetPers0n Жыл бұрын
Oooh I really like this idea
@Kaysa216 ай бұрын
I love this concept! ❤ thanks for the video!
@Dixie_Lily Жыл бұрын
Sae Niijima jumpscare
@bigguy1931 Жыл бұрын
I think it make a lot of sense if his treasure was his birth certificate
@RandomGoldieStuff2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this idea, but unfortunately it wouldn’t exactly work because although a persona user can be a palace ruler, the palace wouldn’t have a shadow if the ruler is a persona-user. It’s kinda like Persona 4 in the way that the person’s shadow becomes their persona once awakened (said by Morgana.) But, I also had a some ideas for his boss fight and other stuff in the palace, i had fun writing them but once again wouldn’t work with canon. The palace starts close to the colosseum, but then the shadows catch you and toss you into the underworld area because you planned to take down “their great Lord Akechi.” You get no safe rooms close to the colosseum either, so you're forced to work your way back up. In the underworld area, as you’re trying to get out, you could hear echoes of Akechi’s memories but the source of the voice (where you see the flashbacks and such, idk what it could be though, maybe something reflective like a mirror or crystals?) being guarded by a powerful shadow. Once you see the flashback, the echoes stop. This happens 3, maybe 4 times. You can't proceed until you see the flashbacks, think Maruki's palace. These flashbacks could be stuff like Akechi finding out his mom died (and blaming himself for it), Shido abandoning Akechi, Akechi awakening his personas, him turning to becoming an assassin. Yeah, dark stuff. When you send the calling card, and are about to sneak in and take the treasure, you’re caught again, and forced to face off against Shadow Akechi. His boss fight, would be like this: After you send the calling card, security in the palace goes way up. You are thrown into the arena by some shadows, you can’t do anything. But then, your opponent is “The legendary hero of Justice, Lord Akechi.” Shadow Akechi recognizes you immediately, and does a little monologue blah blah blah But when the fight starts, he dons golden bird-like wings, and the crowd goes absolutely wild. Everyone cheers his name. Akechi glances up at the crowds, almost judgmentally for a brief moment, before the battle begins. His attacks involve him using misdirection and deception in his tactics, I’m not sure how though But here’s where it gets interesting. As Shadow Akechi is losing the fight, the crowds start laughing at him and mocking him. They immediately changed their views as soon as Akechi made mistakes. They didn’t care about him, they never really did, they just wanted to see him win to entertain the crowd. But then, Akechi does a transformation. He shows his true colors, and has more bird-like features. His wings turn pitch black. He looks terrifying, and much more powerful than before. And the crowd goes from mocking, to *screaming.* Also, you don't take his treasure, but the palace gets destroyed by Akechi's own will. Think of Mishima’s social link (yes I’m using Mishima as an example) where you tell his shadow to go change his own heart and he actually does it, and Mishima stops what he was doing and changes for the better. Would make for some super neat character development, and would work for what he did in Royal where he decides to drop the facade and carve his own path. That could work here too. Also, the will seeds would be called the “Seeds of Treachery” and the ring you get from them would give you the ability “Gladiator’s Tactics”, which gives an automatic charge at the start of the battle and a skill kind of like Marakunda or Masukunda, or, a Tetrakarn + Makarakarn move for one target, but costs a lot of SP. Mini life wall.
@irgendwer3610 Жыл бұрын
What if Marie was a party member and had an awakening after her dungeon?
@TheBlackOtaku2 жыл бұрын
Here a persona 3 what if for ya. What if Minato didn’t die using the great seal.
@asafesseidonsapphire7 ай бұрын
Everyone would die
@shellman1yt5162 жыл бұрын
How curious
@ladyloki100355 ай бұрын
All those who want an Akechi based spin-off press 👍🏼
@Sillybeanz Жыл бұрын
Why not play dark sun for goro's fight
@MayaHamilton Жыл бұрын
The only question I have which is not hate I may have misheard, but how throughout the game are you being integrated by Sae if she is dead by then?
@skel-l7825 Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming that gets cut completely from the story
@shslmood2890 Жыл бұрын
Joker isn’t caught in this version of the story so the interrogation never happens
@My2Cents.iF7934 Жыл бұрын
I don't think having a Palace and having a Persona are mutually exclusive to each other. Persona 5 states that a person's cognitive world only dissipates after the treasure of desires is stolen from it. Persona 4 is an example of this; each dungeon remains and can be accessed after completing it, even after defeating the head Shadow that rules it. Yukiko, Kanji, Rise, and Naoto each turned their Shadows into Personas, yet because they had no distorted desires to be stolen, their dungeons remained. In Royal, Maruki had a Palace for seemingly a long time, and directly controlled it after he accepted his Shadow self during the convergence of Mementos and Reality, giving him a Persona but keeping the Palace.
@joelowes78933 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that the shadows you defeat in his palace when you hold them up they say things like Please forgive me Great Hero Akechi To challenge the great hero Skechi your more foolish than you look
@jackmandeville-williams36214 ай бұрын
My only two gripes is that I don't think Akechi having a coliseum would go with him. This is because his Persona is Loki, a Norse god, not a Greek one, and there seems to be some Greek mythical influence here. I think there may be some other settings that could work with Akechi in my opinion. Plus, I liked the addition of Sae's death (spoilers to anyone who hasn't watched it through yet, sorry), but looking at the plot of Strikers and Zenkichi, that will probably be effected in a way. Other than that though, I liked this.
@user-wx5gg4fx5w Жыл бұрын
this video would've been way better if there wasnt so much of an obvious makoto bias
@irgendwer3610 Жыл бұрын
I don't see it
@totallyhumanproductions13496 ай бұрын
Can you do a scenario where the Phantom Thieves killed the palace rulers instead of changing their hearts?
@scoffeex17407 ай бұрын
Why in that case would Akechi not reveal the Phantom Thieves' identities?
@ladyloki100355 ай бұрын
Why am I getting Valkyrie Profile vibes?? I keep picturing Akechi as Lezard..🤦🏽♀️😅🥴
@celestia7855 Жыл бұрын
as a romance fanfiction writer who usually makes ocs to be shipped, the way i've found to handle his death is by having him bond with another character who, although she's also a phantom thief, she betrays them in favor of staying by his side due to her own trauma and attachment issues, but she takes it so far that just before akechi *would* die, she overexerts herself and becomes unable to protect herself, meaning if akechi wants to still be on his bullshit, it'll cost her life i recently figured this one out and practically celebrated, because his death has caused a lot of mental torture for me, and it makes me happy to have finally cracked the code outside of that, prior to this and after playing Royal, i would write protagonist angst and self-blame after actually trying to protect akechi, but inevitably watching him die, resulting in nightmares, anxiety, visions and such, everything reminding her of how she made everything worse
@hanako_0319 Жыл бұрын
Okay, this sounds super interesting! 😯 Do you happen to upload your fanfictions somewhere?
@celestia7855 Жыл бұрын
@@hanako_0319 absolutely not 😭 my ass is too insecure
@hanako_0319 Жыл бұрын
@@celestia7855 Oh, okay. I can understand why. I used to write a lot of fanfiction too when I was younger, but I only uploaded around 5% of what I wrote. I used to send them to my dorm mate for feedback but that was all. I had this weird phase though when I thought it would be a good idea to print them out and give them to my English teacher to prove that I do in fact speak English, even though I never spoke in class (too shy). Ended up being accused of using Google translate or copy and paste. And I think I traumatized her with the nsfw stuff. But she deserved it. 😅 I wish I could go back to writing as much as I did when I was younger. But nowadays I just have too much to do. And I'm too broke to buy a laptop and writing on my phone is stressing me out. Especially when autocorrect tries correcting words that I didn't want to have corrected. Sorry for the rant. I'm just happy to find someone else who likes writing ffs too. 😊
@celestia7855 Жыл бұрын
@@hanako_0319 nice 👍 it's cool to see someone else just as passionate and still just as shy 😭 but i was planning on posting a fanfic for another fandom, project sekai, but i'm currently on hiatus sooo :/ trying to recover my mental health, since as of right now, i'm having extreme difficulty trying to find a reason to keep going, like why i shouldn't just essentially become futaba minus her hacking skills, just a "lazy" shut-in
@hanako_0319 Жыл бұрын
@@celestia7855 I can relate to that a lot! My mental health isn't the best either. I spent most of my childhood in in- or out-patient therapy. It got to a point where my parents couldn't handle me anymore and decided to give me into the hands of the childcare system, which also didn't want me. But anyway, all these years of therapy and yet I'm still struggling. I also have these times where I just don't see any reason to keep going, no motivation 'cause there's nothing in sight that could give me the strength to keep going. Right now, I'm putting immense pressure on myself because I have a race coming up this Saturday that is stressing me out completely, because I know I can't win and a few days ago, I've let my physical health slip too so I couldn't even train this week. But at least that was sort of a motivation for me. After this weekend, I don't know what to do either. There are some things coming up but they're all still months away. So, I don't know what keeps me from isolating myself either. Probably the fact that I've already been through that shit once and I'm hella afraid of going back to that. Futaba is actually very high up on my list of favorite P5 characters, because I can understand how she must've felt. I mean, I didn't blame myself for someone's death, but I did blame myself for making everyone's life worse. And I used to isolate myself from the outside world too.
@irgendwer3610 Жыл бұрын
damn this one change turned out much worse for the plot in general
@DaFlyingSealАй бұрын
Nah bro, no more what ifs.
@bigjones8346 Жыл бұрын
akechs palace went severely unused to the point there is no assets for it at all but there is shadow dialogue.