Pete Rose - 4191 Hits - 1985 WGN-TV Chicago Cubs broadcast

Pete Rose - 4191 Hits - 1985 WGN-TV Chicago Cubs broadcast - Harry Caray

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Sunday, September 8, 1985. Cincinnati Reds versus Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field in Chicago, IL. Broadcasters Harry Caray and Steve Stone. Excerpt from the Reds' 9th inning when Pete Rose failed to get a hit. Earlier in the game Rose got career hits 4190 and 4191, the last one equaling Ty Cobb's major league record. Also, excerpt from the post-game highlights.

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@tobro3000 5 жыл бұрын

My cousin & I were teenagers and it was the 1st week of school. We took the train and got S.R.O. We actually saw Pete Rose make history! We were happy to be there! p.s. When Rose batted in the 9th vs. Lee Smith, good luck in the daytime darkness. It was no joke.

@paddle_shift 3 жыл бұрын

Man i miss ole Harry Caray. One of the best ever.

@docadams7099 Жыл бұрын

You bet he was!

@daltexasone 6 жыл бұрын

Great stuff! Reds vs Cubs at Wrigley with Harry, Steve and Pete Rose!

@voiceguy3635 Жыл бұрын

I was a White Sox fan,but I watched the Cubs day games almost all the time JUST BECAUSE of Harry and Steve.Their conversational tone about all things sports was very entertaining.Piersall was also great to listen to with Harry.

@mactheknife7049 3 жыл бұрын

The hit shown at the 12:22 mark is the *actual* record-breaking hit, thanks to statistical recordkeeping that inadvertently gave Ty Cobb two more hits than he actually had. #4,190 was the record breaker.

@9Ballr 5 жыл бұрын

These old grainy videos from the 1920's are always interesting to watch.

@aboxofbroken8tracks983 5 жыл бұрын

If you didn't have cable in 1985 this is what TV looked like.

@jasonkeith9317 5 жыл бұрын

I hate to say it makes me sound and feel old but I'm gonna say it anyway. Ahh the good ole' days man if I could go back in time and do it all again I would!!!

@jeffrobdine 5 жыл бұрын

I'm 70, I remember watching this when I was 35 !

@DavidIsabelli 2 жыл бұрын

I was there! Great to see!

@docadams7099 Жыл бұрын

Boy, what a great game you saw. No lights on Wrigley, the wet weather, the wind, and the darkness. Just good, old school baseball. Plus, no DH. The game was so close and well-played.

@monolithgeometry3221 Жыл бұрын

Many rain delays I heard. Might've been a tad miserable!

@DavidIsabelli Жыл бұрын

@@monolithgeometry3221 I don’t remember that, but at Wrigley, growing up going to Cub games, one just prepares for whatever kind of weather. We always brought a jacket, even in middle of summer because if you sit on the Cub side or out of the sun, when the wind blew, it got chilly!

@oldhamegg 6 жыл бұрын

this was back when people played baseball professionally in the 1980's.

@newvisionsradio5560 6 жыл бұрын

God, Lee Smith threw flames. I had forgotten just how hard he had thrown.

@jerrystewart7594 3 жыл бұрын

What a prolific hitter... The epitome of hustle and iron will

@willdrucker4291 8 жыл бұрын

Hooolyy Cowwww...will be somebody fix those rabbit ears???? lol

@randalls9822 4 жыл бұрын

I would've fix the rabbit ears to get channel 9 if I wasn't at school :)

@steve2474 6 жыл бұрын

These were the days- baseball back in the 1980s as kid seemed like a much better game than it is today. Watching the day games from Wrigley Field, when it was usually wasn't too difficult to get a ticket, people went to the games at Wrigley because they were fans- not because it was the trendy thing to do or place to be seen, no advertisements plastered all over the stadium, no lights in the stadium, listening to Harry Carey call the game (today- he'd probably have 15,000 complaints made against him by the 2nd inning of each game because people were offended).

@jasonkeith9317 5 жыл бұрын

I liked ur comments don't listen to that other idiot.

@chrisj197438 5 жыл бұрын

bxktd Hipsters are ruining everything

@LosAngeles-yz1yn 5 жыл бұрын

Offend them anyway.

@monolithgeometry3221 Жыл бұрын

Back when Rose was still collecting hits, Raiders were still kicking ass, and John McEnroe was an American tennis whinning machine

@steve2474 6 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this game as a kid. With darkness looming and no lights in Wrigley Field, you have to wonder how different the reaction would have been had he broken the record here versus in Cincinnati. Marge Schott probably would have driven the red Corvette for Rose through the clubhouse door onto Wrigley Field, cigarette dangling from mouth.

@chrisj197438 5 жыл бұрын

bxktd Marge was more of a man than baseball owners are today

@docadams7099 Жыл бұрын

Actually, Marge wasn't at that game; she was back in Cincinnati because Rose wasn't expected to play against the Cubs' scheduled starter, Steve Trout (I think that's his first name). Anyway, the night before, Trout fell off his bike and got injured, so the Cubs gave the start to Reggie Patterson, and Rose inserted himself into the lineup. The Reds TV crew had also returned home, so we in Cincinnati could only see Pete's at-bats courtesy of a hookup with WGN.

@simplygu 6 жыл бұрын

Important info on this game... the Cubs scheduled starting pitcher for this game was Steve Trout... a left handed pitcher. Thus, since Pete Rose platooned himself and only started against right handed pitchers... he was not going to be in the starting lineup for this game. However, Trout suffered an injury to his pitching shoulder while riding his bike the evening before the game, and the Cubs had to replace him with right hander, Reggie Patterson. Thus, Rose started this game and went 2 for 5, tying Cobb's presumed record of 4,191 hits with a 5th inning single. Two more right handers followed Patterson to the hill who pitched 5 innings. They were Lary Sorensen & Lee Smith... and this allowed Rose to play the entire game. The game was interrupted by a 2 hour & 3 minute rain delay around the 7th inning. Wrigley Field did not have lights at this time, and the game was called due to darkness at the end of the 9th inning with the game tied 5-5. All stats count in a tie game called due to weather or darkness, as long as at least 5 innings are played. Thus... Pete Rose tied Ty Cobb's presumed all-time hit record... in a tie game. That's it for now baseball fans. Hope you enjoyed!

@janetracer 5 жыл бұрын

Another interesting fact - The Reds were in the playoff hunt that year and it was possible that the game might have had to be resumed if it had mattered in the standings. A made up rain out game is said to be played on the day it is made up BUT a suspended game is assumed to have been played on its original date. So had the game been picked up and Rose got a hit, according to the rules, that would have been the 4192nd hit. However I'm sure the fans and most likely a statement from the commissioner would recognize the Cincinnati hit.

@monolithgeometry3221 Жыл бұрын

Thanks guys ! Simplygu ,good stuff but..whats with that send off ha

@bto13e 8 жыл бұрын

The Elias Sports Bureau discovered years later that Ty Cobb was credited with one game in which he collected 2 hits twice. Cobb actually finished with 4,189 career hits instead of 4,191. So, little did we know at the time, Pete Rose broke the all time hits record on this day at Wrigley Field.

@dynamichorace5961 4 жыл бұрын

Is that all he had? Hell I could get 4189 hits

@lloydkline6946 3 жыл бұрын

Ty cobb 4,189or 4191 seem invincible at the time, petr pose was a switch hitter big advantage over ty cobb

@monolithgeometry3221 Жыл бұрын

@@lloydkline6946 Pitchers mightve been a little more apt to go "upstairs and in " in Cobbs era too !

@cjs83172 9 жыл бұрын

Here's a little-known fact. If you believe most of the sources where historical records are kept, Pete Rose became the all-time hits leader in this game, and not a few days later in Cincinnati. What happened was that, as Rose was coming up on Ty Cobb's career hits mark, it was discovered by a number of sources that Cobb's career hit total was actually 4,189, not 4,191 as MLB has always had it. The difference was that Cobb apparently had a 2-hit game counted twice, which not only boosted his hit total to 4,191, but also affected his lifetime batting average to allow it to be rounded up to .367. In fact, MLB had been informed about the apparent discrepancy as Rose approached Cobb's mark, and shrugged it off. So it's likely that Rose actually became MLB's all-time hits leader at Wrigley Field on September 8, 1985 when he got career hit #4,190, and not at home against San Diego three nights later when he got hit #4,192.

@NashTV8 8 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are correct. Interesting.

@1981lashlarue 8 жыл бұрын

Cobbs hit total and career batting average have since been changed with MLB. Not sure when that officially happened though.

@russellguercio5357 5 жыл бұрын

cjs83172 Poor Eric Show would still be alive. Killed himself shortly after giving up Roses hit. Rod Scurry also.

@myguyry 5 жыл бұрын

@@russellguercio5357 No.

@russellguercio5357 5 жыл бұрын

myguyry An opinion, there isn't a definitive yes or no.

@MrDuds1984 3 жыл бұрын

I feel that Rose purposely struck out in the 9th because he wanted to get the hit in Cincinnati.

@docadams7099 Жыл бұрын

I think Pete being the competitor he was, was trying to get a base hit and possibly win the game.

@docadams7099 29 күн бұрын

Always the competitor, Rose wanted to get his record-breaker here and help the Reds win the game (and get closer to the Dodgers in the division race). Pete told the story that, as he approached the plate, the on-deck hitter (Dave Parker) nervously asked him what he was going to do. Parker wanted him to save the big hit for Cincinnati. Pete also said that every time he came to bat in this game, the Cubs fans cheered for him to get a hit, and, back in Cincinnati, Marge Schott kicked her dog in frustration. Steve Trout was supposed to start this game for the Cubs, but he fell off his bike the night before and so the Cubs went with Reggie Patterson. Also, the Cincinnati Reds TV crew figured Rose wouldn't play this game, and so they headed home after Saturday's game. When Rose saw that Trout was injured and that Patterson would fill in, he quickly penciled himself into the lineup. We in the Cincinnati area only got to see Rose's at-bats because WLWT arranged a special hookup with WGN. And this game was before they put lights in Wrigley. What a great game this one was.

@Tommyofthntn 7 жыл бұрын

Mercy was it dark.

@RobertJones-my5of 4 жыл бұрын

Should be in Hall Of Fame..

@click789101112 5 жыл бұрын

Wow, even had the upper deck open for this game, unusual being this late in the season with the kids being back in school. Big weekend season against the Reds and Pete Rose must've been the big draw.

@janetracer 5 жыл бұрын

The game was played on a Sunday so school day didn't apply. I was there that day and Wrigley was pretty full at the start of the game. It was so empty because by the 9th inning we had endured many rain delays.

@pardwayne 10 жыл бұрын

It the year of Pete Rose, Tom Seaver, Bret Saberhagen and Willie McGhee. I remember how mad people were at the Cubs that year - it was such a letdown after '84. In '86, the Cubs were even worse, but they were "loveable losers" again

@scoobycarr5558 9 жыл бұрын

Yep, 90 losses just two years removed from the debacle at San Diego in '84 and a whopping 37 games out of first. Not only that but the Cubs would finish last next season though they lost "just" 85 games even with MVP Andre Dawson. I guess that "loveable losers" must be a big deal on the North Side

@pardwayne 9 жыл бұрын

Scooby Carr It's a religion.

@ricklozano4658 9 жыл бұрын

And doc Gooden

@InnocentSmith831 8 жыл бұрын

Pete probably had a bet it would be broken in Cincy.

@Tecumseh-vv1li 7 жыл бұрын

r i p Eddie Milner

@danielmatthews638 8 жыл бұрын

the record breaking hit was the homerun he hit

@ledsohio 7 жыл бұрын

Seriously? Well it must be true if someone told you or you read it on the internets.

@tomitstube 3 жыл бұрын

pete a manager player at this point, he'd end up with 4202 by the end of the year, play one more and finish with 4256.

@Nickrj3 10 жыл бұрын

Was there a rain delay during this game? It would be the only reason it would be suspended after nine innings.

@johnsmith-sj9jm 10 жыл бұрын

No lights on Wrigley in 1985 .. they didn't get put on till Aug. of 88 ... so it was called on darkness.

@Nickrj3 9 жыл бұрын

I'm sure this game started at 1:20 PM and the time of the game was 2:42 which would've made it 4:02PM. But the shot at the very end looks like 6:30PM (at September 8th)

@trevorhembrough1290 4 жыл бұрын

Midnight Owl It’s possible this was a late start (typically 3:05 pm in those days) due to the fact that it was opening day for the Bears, who had a noon kickoff against the Bucs at Soldier Field (it was sunny and cloudless all throughout the Bears game). The Rose hit off Reggie Patterson actually came in the 5th inning. He had two more at bats and was retired in both of them. Games at Wrigley that we’re called for darkness prior to the lights being installed would typically be suspended at some point during the five or six o’ clock hour, and those games were usually well into extra innings by that point. This game was suspended following the Cubs’ 9th, so I’m betting on the late start.

@nuts45150 9 жыл бұрын

itshould be in cooperstown he need to be in

@lloydkline6946 3 жыл бұрын

Pete just had to admit stuff like being guilty on betting stuff. it different from steroids baseball ⚾️players ,,,

@jenkinsljenkinssquire9137 7 жыл бұрын

Steve Stone sounds like Jerry Seinfeld

@richardm3773 7 жыл бұрын

why was game suspended

@soxpacker 7 жыл бұрын

Darkness, Wrigley had no lights.

@ShawnC.T. 7 жыл бұрын

Richard M That's what they used to do before 1988, when lights were installed in Wrigley, I never thought that would ever happen, but it did...

@TheBatugan77 5 жыл бұрын

He got lucky

@monolithgeometry3221 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, 16,000 plate apps ,he prob got lucky on more than one occasion, there, Happy Gilmore 😁

@BOTA099 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if he bet on himself to get 3 hits that day or not?

@bobbymadera4763 7 жыл бұрын

Pete.rose.is.the best.baseball.ever. Been.in.this.hearth.i.dont.about. The.fuckin.commissioned.all.ways. Him.goong.to.be.on.the.hall.of.fame. Everybody.love.him.because.him Plays.to.win.and.for.the.fans. Maybe.he.bet.couple.games.when.he Was.a.manager.but.i.dont.care..about. That.i.care.when.he.was.a.player. And.the.people.thinking.the.same. Way.that's.when.he.won.the.fame. 4192hits.that.what.i.tacking.about. Nobody.going.to.break.that.record. In.you.can.take.to.the.bank