My 5 Worst Buys! [video 484]

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In this video I ‘fess up to my five #worst purchases - well, five things I probably shouldn’t have bought, anyway. This doesn’t make them #bad #tools, far from it - well, maybe one of them is, but mostly they just didn’t work out for me. Enjoy!
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Festool PDC 18/4 - amzn.to/2s3J0eq (US: amzn.to/2tWUHEL)
Festool T18 drill/driver - amzn.to/2QAHpK1 (US: amzn.to/2RPuOCR)
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@jammysingh 2 жыл бұрын

What amazes me more is amount of tools and machine you managed to fit in your small workshop.

@marklynch8781 Жыл бұрын

To that comment, I will add....the amount of work Peter does in his shop.

@norsebavarian1941 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I have a shop full of tools I don't use. The question I now ask myself is " Do I love this tool or do I just love the idea of using this tool."

@MWAWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

That's a great confessional. Occasionally it's good to be the example for others to learn from our pain 🙂

@themaninthesuitcase 2 жыл бұрын

Many moons ago I bought a triton router and a UKJ router table for it for a specific project. Promptly life threw me a curve ball and so they sat unused for a number of years whilst we moved and children grew. I eventually managed to use the router to build a nice gaming table topper in the initial lockdown. I decided to finally fit the router to the table and discovered the rather expensive plate it came with had a bow to it, around 0.5mm in the middle along the long side. It turned out there was a bad batch/known issue with these plates around when I got it and I just never noticed, had I they would have exchanged it for me. The vendor assures me this will be "fine" but I can't get past knowing its bent, and they no longer sell the 6mm plates only a 10mm which to me is rather telling. I am sure I'll just get on with it one day but somewhat spendy shed ornament how every you cut it. Runner up is a "bargain" evolution mitre saw that I saw on sale in B&Q and had to have. It can't even cut a 2x6 so the first proper job it would have been useful for I ended up with a speed square and a battery circular saw!

@ChrisShawCDS 2 жыл бұрын

One of your best videos, Peter. Sharing mistakes is a great way to help others learn. It's less about the product and more about what led you to make the decisions. The last example with the eBay purchase and money burning a hole in your pocket is probably something we can all relate to. So too, the example of buying a product that is perfectly good in its own right, such as the CNC machine, and yet establishing that it isn't a big enough part of your common workflow to warrant the outlay, time spent setting up and space it takes up. Great video. Humility like this is always great to see on a channel like yours. Thank you! 👍

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙌 Confession's good for the soul; now I feel cleansed enough to go out and buy that Shaper Origin I've had my eye on... 👍 😂

@rays2877 4 ай бұрын

You in the UK can't relate, but being young with a Sears credit card I bought five Sears Craftsman portable power tools. Every one except for the shop vac was a mistake.Any way, I learned what a good tool was. I bought a pressure washer at an auction. By the time I finished fixing it,it only cost me $50 more than if I bought a new one.chuckle.

@mozismobile 2 жыл бұрын

Think of it as community service - you buy them so we don't have to. I don't really have any expensive regret tools, just random piles of small ones that seemed like a good idea but I don't end up using them. Worse are the small really useful tools that I have lent or misplaced, and can't find anywhere to replace. The most expensive in that vein is my habit of buying TIG welders, using them for a few years, then selling them because I'm moving and haven't used them for a while. I'm about to buy my third... Oh, and my 285mm circular saw (10"?). Which I included in the project cost when I built a shed out of 75mm coolstore panels, but it's proved impossible to resell. Even the guy who offered $50 failed to turn up and actually buy it.

@rafaelblancoNET Ай бұрын

It is a good idea cutting by using the jigsaw a few milimeters fron the scribe line and with a fee degrees of inclination, this will help you to fit the infill as close as posibles to the wall bay using the rasp.

@onemanandhiswood 2 жыл бұрын

Great insight into regretful purchases I’m sure we’ve all made! Most of my worst buys have been via auction sites where I have saved maybe up to 50% off retail but then failed to account for a 2 hour round trip to collect the item, and that they normally don’t perform how they should, hence the seller selling them! I now only (mostly) buy new, and use sites like yours to give me guidance on the pros and cons of kit I’m interested in. Thanks for the informative videos, I’ve learnt a lot from you.

@essexbarnworkshop8578 2 жыл бұрын

I had wondered what happened to the CNC, was looking forward to another series, as I am seriously contemplating one for small one-off projects like signs etc. Good to know we are not alone in mistaken purchases! My worst was also a table saw, which I gave away and replaced.

@t190uk 2 жыл бұрын

Great honest video, I think we all have tools which we regret buying but continue to keep them to justify our mistakes to ourselves or something. You've made me rethink some of the equipment I currently have in the garage...time to make some space and sell them.

@peterfilcek4588 2 жыл бұрын

I looked at the “fan in a can” too…. Really glad I went for the box style after hearing that. It seemed ideal on paper, but always good to have a real world test to show what something is like!

@paulevans3827 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter we’ve all done this purchased stuff that we thought we needed but we actually don’t, I try my best to have a need list and a want list, I leave this on my workbench for weeks and generally I find I don’t need half of what I thought but it is thank you to people like you that post videos on here that saves people like me a bunch of money thank you and happy New Year to you. PS I would sell the saw but just be honest and to whoever you sell it to me and tell them it’s not brilliant but someone out there would love it. Paul 👍

@TheMonkdad 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your blatant honesty. We all get caught up in excitement or the hype of something but most guys won’t admit it.

@colinwilson7524 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Peter and nice to see pros making terrible tool purchases. I bought a table saw (actually my wife bought me one for christmas) few years ago as I really wanted one. However I have no place for it to go and no actual workshop as all my woodwork is done outside when it is not raining. I currently have it stored in a very lind neighbours garage and used it... litterally once!

@kevinsteer7920 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent, honest and funny. Thanks Peter for making my Friday night. I’ve followed you for years and can totally relate to all these. 👏👏👏

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Kevin! 🙌👍

@edgar9651 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. I saw your CNC video some time ago and I also thought about getting one. I have to admit my main reason to think about buying one is that these things seem to be cool and fun to play around with - not that I really need one. I guess after this video I will think one more time... Happy New Year 2022!

@e139439 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, full of wisdom, thanks Peter

@LonghornWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Wow there are some expensive tools on that list. Glad I am not the only one living with bad purchases. My worst one was a scroll saw, was not expensive but still hardly ever use it and just occupies space.

@scroungasworkshop4663 2 жыл бұрын

Mine too but it was given to me so I will probably give it to someone else so it can sit on their bench not being used. 😂😂

@TheLemonadedrinker 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Peter. It's always reassuring to realise that many of us have access to more money than sense. I think we get afflicted with a mad kind of heat that forces us to empty our wallets and buy these really unsuitable devices !!

@bobhinden7813 2 жыл бұрын

I really like this video. We all make purchase mistakes, nice to see your experiences.

@GrahamOrm 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Peter. I can highly recommend the DeWalt. Used it on site and in the shop. Accurate and bullet proof.

@derekhawley9660 Жыл бұрын

Another great video Peter. Very entertaining and educational. Enthusiasm does get the better of us sometimes. I was dead keen to get a table saw (after watching all the chaps in the US cutting everything on one). I'm sure someone has used one to cut their birthday cake. But after watching your videos, I am happy with my track saw and I think my fingers are happy with my choice. I really like your considered humour ... this time 'more table than saw'.

@eegaugh 2 жыл бұрын

I have often marvelled at the way you manage without a table saw. I don't know the Lutz but there *are* others! I look forward to more "post-retirement" videos in 2022.

@Mike35858 2 жыл бұрын

Great informational video Peter and very honest of you to share. I still rate your presentation skills, excellent.

@neilscrivener5011 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loving reading through all these comments!! Very apparent how everyone is different. I wouldn't be without my table saw, but it is a huge 3 metre sliding bed jobby that I got for a steal. My domino joiner however has just sat in the box so far after buying one based on watching too many youtubers! I got the Graco Ultra too based on the "playing at spraying" series and am personally pleased with it so far.

@dwp1970 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Peter. I did get a corded version of the Graco after watching your videos and it has worked okay for me but it is a bit of a hassle to keep it going and I still seem to use way too much paint. I worked in a scene shop for a school / performance conservatory, the shop decided that we needed CNC that could handle full 4' x 8' size sheet goods. I am sure it worked well for someone but after sending a staff member 500 miles away for a week of training ( who was already very proficient in AutoCAD ) , building a specific room with loads of acoustic insulation, re working the entire layout of the shop it sat for a year almost never running due to issues with software and hardware. Minding you that the build time for shows were less than 6 weeks and performances were almost always 3 evenings. A favorite picture I took is of a carp hand sawing a length of lumber and having to use the CNC bed as a work table because we had no free space left the shop. What a waste of money for the position the CNC was being asked to fill. Keep up the great work.

@tippo5341 2 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year Peter to yourself and all the family!!!! Hope 2022 brings you health, happiness and you manage to stay safe throughout the year!!!! Cheers from Sydney Aus!!!!

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! All best from London! 👍👍🍻

@johnhewetson4406 2 жыл бұрын

Could always be worse. I always say "I never learned anything on a good day", lol. At least you have the generosity to share this and help us all to feel a bit better about some of our learning experiences.

@robgullen 2 жыл бұрын

Very impressed with one-man install of the Record air filter! I built a sort of cradle to house mine up next to the ceiling and had to get my wife to help me lift it into position. As for table saws - I had a fairly modest machine but have sold it and now just rely on the track and band saws - works for me with what I do.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob! Yes, tracksaws do most of what I need, and always have done.👍

@leanwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Just chiming in a update from America.. bought a Makita saw Monday it was jacked up main post in back was bent.. Had to return it and couldn’t get an exchange.. bought a ridgid brand.. can get it to cut square at all.. fence has som wierd Allen size I don’t have.. though it might have been 5.5 mil but no luck.. This channel spoiled me by teaching me better work methods.. and now I realize how junky many products truly are..

@WalkingEng 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant Honesty on what worked and what hasn't. I try to judge all my tools on the basis of general usage levels across projects. I love my table saw, router, planer, jointer. The Festool domino is good, but I don't use it much and every time I do, I have to re-learn or I make some stupid mistakes, so its really a useful tool but quite frustrating. My CNC is similar, in that it takes a lot of design and other work to get it to produce things and they are never quite good enough or take 3 prototype versions before I'm ready to make the final piece. In general I try to keep to simple 2D stuff on the CNC.

@albatros1752 2 жыл бұрын

Happy new Year !! Live long and prosper !!

@davey820051 2 жыл бұрын

As a long-time viewer, I KNEW the table saw would top your list😄. My experience with the Graco sprayer has been similar to yours. It's totally unreliable, which, in my opinion, is the cardinal sin for a tool (or employee). Thanks for all you do!

@warrensmith2902 2 жыл бұрын

Can't win them all. Thanks for your honesty. I to don't have enough volume to have a CNC or a 3D printers. I farm those out when needed.

@TheLastPharm Жыл бұрын

Wow! I had never really expected the Lamello to misperform like that. You must have been really pi$$ed off. Makes me feel not so bad about not being able to afford one now 😂

@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын

Other people seem really happy with it, so I’m assuming it’s me; worth it for the Clamex though! 💪👍

@khangle3472 2 жыл бұрын

More table than saw! Hahaha. So hilarious. Thanks so much for your videos. Love them

@alexbarger6884 Жыл бұрын

Great vid, I appreciate the insight. I agree 100% on CNC as it's not right for everyone. I do have one and I keep finding new ways to use it. My worst tool purchase is a mig welder. I thought I would make metal table legs and it still remains new in box after 2 years. 300us was a great deal at the time. I should really sell it, but I can't bring myself to let go.

@Suicaedere666 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this video, thank you for sharing🤘🙌😄

@NorthWalesCampers 2 жыл бұрын

Now that’s a video I would like to see Peter. How to improve a table Saw. I have the triton work station with table saw module but I’d love to see what you could do with your saw. I at one stage had the Aldi saw with Jon heise fence plans and was impressed but it gave up here’s the triton. Please let’s see what you can do with your

@DavidSmith-qc5fq 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you about the Lamello P2. Bought one to quicken the building of a number of cabinets. Just could not get on with it. In the end used the trusty dominos

@artfulcodger 2 жыл бұрын

3 for me; I have the Domino 500, and just love it. On a whim I bought the 700XL, ‘because I wanted it’ along with a load of accessories. 9 months later, having literally not used it even once.. I sold it to a very happy guy making gates, and lost about £300 or so in the process. (You’ll have to pry the 500 from my cold dead hands.) The other was at a similar point (I had some ££) I decided like you to look at spraying - bought a top flight Graco HVLP pro comp with pressure pot, and also the Graco Gx21 airless with hopper and extensions.. HVLP went straight into use, and is just superb, awesome results, easy to clean and being the big powerful one is surprisingly quick at larger areas without mess, as well as the smaller stuff. The Airless though, is about to be advertised for sale, literally unused, was a mad purchase, ideal for a decorator in empty homes but not for me. Lastly, the Mafell tracksaw that blew my mind, wonderful machine, love it to bits - decided to buy a cordless variant, just as a fabulous deal came up on the new cordless Festool so bought that - the Mafell hasn’t been used once since, despite being kept for indoor use I still reach for the festool every time. Also going to be up for sale!

@buddythompson5284 2 жыл бұрын

Hah! It's ironic that it was your "Playing with Spraying" videos that convinced me to by the Graco Ultramax! I've had mine for about a year now and I only use it occasionally and for small jobs. So far it's worked well for me and I'm happy with it.

@Cameron2874 2 жыл бұрын

Really great vid. Have been a subscriber since the beginning. Surprised by some of them but as usual you explain thoroughly which leaves no doubt as to why. Anybody that watches you could never seriously doubt you did not go through all possible solutions to get your Ferrari biscuit cutter connectors working correctly, way when the rest of us would have lost patience long ago.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙌👍

@keesvanderlinden1313 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see that bad buys are not limited to hobbyist woodworkers only! In the comments it becomes obvious that KZfaq vids play a big part in decision making and it doesn’t always turn out to be the best decisions.

@aledjones84 2 жыл бұрын

really interesting video Peter! one of my worst purchases was the old festool combination bevel for the rails. Whatever I did with it I couldn't get it accurate enough at any angle. Ended up buying a rail square from FC Tools in Scotland and that was a game changer! I believe festool have recently made a new angle stop, so clearly they didn't think the old one was much good either!

@fraser7744 2 жыл бұрын

I also bought one of these on the strength of being a Festool. Could never understand how such a poor design could get past the product planners and testers at the company.

@MrDawes 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video. What rare honesty. I have been watching Peter for years and he just gets better. I find the CNC thing exactly the same way. Quite the fad but not that useful for regular guys like me. Thanks, Peter.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I do the silly things so that you don't have to! 😂 👍

@palmdodo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your honest opinion, Peter. I was almost jumping for Zeta last Xmas… but can’t justify the cost as a DIYer. Meanwhile, I am hesitating on selling either my Ridgid table saw with cast iron wings /belt-driven motor or my almost new Bosch reaxx(got it on sale two years ago, never put it on use, I know I know), I might got an idea now :)

@Cradley684 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry Pete xxxx happens we have all been there mate, Stay Safe Mate !!!.

@pataulson Жыл бұрын

Super fun ... enjoyed your honesty. Really laughed out loud. Be well.

@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын

Thank you! You too! 👍

@WeekendShedHead 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Peter! I was looking at the ‘fan in a can’.. but I’m going for the record also 👍

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Good move! 👍👍

@graememckay561 2 жыл бұрын

That graco is renown for problems. Have a look at one of the "hopper" spray units, so much better!

@georgiemae11 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Pete.For me , if a purchase goes wrong it makes me think "why do i bother". Very disconcerting when they dont live up to expectation. Especially if its a job for someone { i hate impulse buys }

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve! 👍

@3vil3lvis 2 жыл бұрын

👍 Only when you have overcome the disappointment and embarrassment of failing can you see past your ego and teach others to learn from your mistakes. Well done.

@idlersdream826 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, I don't think you should waste any time with that table saw, get rid & gain a bit more space. I can see your point about the CNC and the same could be applied to my 3D printer, sometimes its quicker to make a couple of parts in less time than it takes to design it and print it, but for other bits I need it's great to set it off batch printing while I get on with other stuff. Oh, and thanks for the LT Jig, very impressed 👍 👏.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, the LT jigs are a case in point; no way I could make those on my CNC in the kind of volume I need, and even prototyping them is a waste of time because the guy who does the work is just so much better at the software than I am. 👍

@andrewhay8033 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Surprised at the lamello as everyone else I hear is raving about them. I see your point though. I don't fancy the Allen key holes so would be using the same connectors as you and as you say they just don't look strong enough. Like many, a great idea that just doesn't quite work by the looks of it. Makes me feel better now I don't need to buy one lol.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Always happy to help by doing the silly things, so you don't have to! 😂

@gedreillyhomestead6926 2 жыл бұрын

The cost of those five tools would probably pay for ALL my tools 10 times over! 😵

@elmirmesic2177 2 жыл бұрын

yep, sold my Lamello as well after about a year. Even with having both Domino's, still rely on conventional and pocket hole screws, and traditional joinery.

@ianpearse4480 2 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year. Not sure this counts as a tool, I bought a car on a Saturday, which blew up on the Wednesday. £2000 up the creek. Oh the joys of youth. I am glad to say that my wood working tools so far have only wasted about £10 on a small spoke shave that I just can't get on with.

@petermarsh4993 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Peter, it’s unusual for a professional to admit to mistakes as you have done. It just gives me more respect for you. When I’m debating which brand of something to buy I go to a product review site. You often find out surprising facts about a product which better informs your choice. If the model you’re interested in is not reviewed then that is reason enough to leave it alone. Cheers.

@sebastiana.481 Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, thanks for your honest review on the zeta after you had it a bit. Some years ago there was a huge wave here on youtube about the zeta which made it tempting of course. Today I actually never see it used again by the initial reviewers in their projects which to me looks more like it had been a lamello-birthday-marketing run to promote it. I also use a zeta but I more rely on the clamex and find the newer clamex flexus a very nice addition apart from the divario ( i never used). That said, I am not a professional user but it really helped me a few times to fix wobbly furniture with fixed shelf levels or so to stiffen it up a bit. For knock down furniture it is nice, but from a more allround approach I'd opt for a domino as it is more versatile in most cases due to the size of the connectors. I also more use the tenso as a prefixture so that it is less cumbersome to set clamps which is also nice, but of course not what marketing tells you ;-)

@philiprandall1399 2 жыл бұрын

My worst buy is not a bad tool but it has sat around in my garage since new after being used once in three years of ownership. It is a Festool Domino, and it was used to install 6 dominoes in its first week and has stayed in the box ever since. I only bought it because I binge-watched an almost endless stream of videos on KZfaq where this guy called Peter made fantastic bits of furniture and cabinets and other stuff with one, and so I persuaded myself that my life was incomplete without one of my own...

@PSD9763 2 жыл бұрын

I'll happily take it off your hands... really fancy one but could never justify the price. Though maybe that's me falling into your same trap, having watched endless youtube videos of people using them.

@irenebrowning 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't use mine for the first several years either. Now I use it all the time. I just had to get comfortable with it. Don't sell it yet.

@philiprandall1399 2 жыл бұрын

@@PSD9763 Thanks for the offer, Paul. But, as Aye Captain suggests, I am going to hang onto it in the hope that one day the Domino and I hit it off and we start making beautiful furniture together!

@fugenfuller-rp1fu 2 жыл бұрын

In general I am in the same situation but I could resist so far. Now I regularly have this dream of my 89 year old me finally buys the festool domino to do his last woodworking project and than asks himself why he hasn't bought it at the age of 39.

@jamesbailey3131 2 жыл бұрын

I also purchased a Festool Domino based almost entirly from watching Peters videos - I got mine second hand after Peter made the very valid point that second hand prices of Dominos means I could buy one, use it for a year or so and then sell it for the same price I paid for it. That was the plan, however now, 2 plus years later you would need to prize it out of my cold dead hand before I ever sold it. I have made loads of cabinets and draws for my workshop and more recently for my home using 18mm sheet material and the Domino makes life so easy and acurate. I have only ever used the one cutter in it and so far only ever used 5 x 30 Dominos but I've used 100's of them over the past 2 years.

@RunarMagnussen 2 жыл бұрын

I was definitely expecting to see the table saw! Maybe there's a KZfaqr out there with the skills and knowledge to make it a better saw. Just don't ask me who that would be because I have no idea, at least in Europe. I haven't been woodworking for that long, but my worst purchase so far must've been the green Bosch PTS10 table saw. The table was so non flat that pieces that I ran through it varied a ton in cutting angle. Sold it and got a Metabo TS254 that has served me well!

@simplerefinedliving9285 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. About time some more youtube I know everything admit to getting stuff wrong like the rest of us. I have a small shop with adequate tools to get me started but on my list would have to be the Evolution double mitre saw and triton track saw. Track saw cut 5mm off square out of the box and after adjustment still cuts a trench!! Evolution just doesn't have enough power. Awful machine.

@normanboyes4983 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that Peter, very candid and entertaining. The surprise for me was the Lamello - I thought you were a fan boy.😉 Shame about the CNC but I suppose a bit like 3D printers they are ‘exciting’ bits of tech that look like a great solution - but if you have not got a problem you do not need a solution.

@magnatimberworksclinthurst6209 2 жыл бұрын

Feel your pain with the ultra max, great when it works. I’ve got a GX21 with fine finish conversion. Works great but it’s not cordless 😩

@afbigfish1 5 ай бұрын

I lovemy Graco cordless. Its a little heavy on the wrist fully loaded but it works like a champ on trim and doors. I would NEVER use it for a full room thats just crazy talk. I do clean it and keep pump armor in it when not in use. Graco really should have included a cap to plug the port I had to 3d print one so the pump armor would not leak out

@Dickymint1000 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting video Peter. My worst purchase. A Leigh dovetail jig ~ loads of messing about to set up when other easier joining techniques can be used. Used a couple of times and has sat in the shed ever since! They're not cheap either. Complete waste of money

@Tyler1169 2 жыл бұрын

hey Peter! Give the Fuji Q5 HVLP Turbine a look over, I'm a Cabinet Maker out of canada and I've been very happy with the results of the finish and quality of the unit. I would say the graco handheld units are more of a hobbyist tool hence the attractive price point, where the Q5 is more of a serious bit of kit. when used with 3m's pps2 system it's honestly rock solid and painless to use. Be a bit more open to spray finishing and don't let poor quality tool sour your taste to the possibilities spraying offers!

@WobblycogsUk 2 жыл бұрын

The only one I didn't guess was the table saw (maybe I missed those videos). I'm especially not surprised about the Lamello and the Greco. I was looking for a a spray system about the same time as you and went Fuji in the end because I was concerned about the lifetime of the pump in the Greco. The Lamello is a good looking idea but at the price it would have to be absolutely perfect in every way and it wasn't clear it was. I think you summed up the issue with CNC perfectly and the same arguments hold for 3D printers. I certainly wouldn't invest any time in that table saw, the design is fundamentally wrong and there's nothing you can do about that. Just list it honestly with the limitations it has and let the buyer decide if it's worth it.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, though I may just pull the motor out if the saw and dump the rest! 🤷‍♂️👍

@fred_fred 2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Just because it doesn't suit your needs doesn't mean that another person won't find use in it... They may want something relatively lightweight with a sliding table and the direct drive motor doesn't effect them in terms of precision/noise/accuracy etc...

@jigsey. 2 жыл бұрын

@@fred_fred Peter is only giving his thoughts on the products, he's says throughout the video...

@fred_fred 2 жыл бұрын

@@jigsey. oh yea.. totally get and understand that... Just meant that when he talked about not feeling like it was something he'd feel comfortable selling on to someone else, it might be a saw that suited someone else's needs

@amconsole 2 жыл бұрын

Agree completely except with the 3D printer part. It has been way more useful in the shop than I ever imagined it would be. Up there with my Domino. I've found so many unexpected use cases for it - vacuum hose adapters for all the tools that don't directly fit the Festool vac, dust extractor parts, flanges, all sorts of special hooks and brackets to hang tools on the wall, replacement parts for my tools (such as broken triggers and even bits of housing, gears, sprockets, motor flange adapter plates) fixtures and fittings for lights, all sorts of workholding adapters for MFT holes, shallow depth hinge spacers. And I'm relatively new to Fusion. There are people out there that have more skill and print router tables for palm routers and, complex dovetail of fingerjoint jigs, not counting all the 3D printed marking and spacing cotraptions Peter himself uses. By now I can't imagine not having a 3D printer for sop projects. I do however agree with the CNC router part - it is a way more limited tool than a 3D printer, loud as hell, slow and makes so much dust even with a dust extractor. Even if You're good with CAD software, the price, space it takes up and how rarely it's needed - makes more sense to send the drawings to a shop that has a large and more robust and precise CNC machine and have them route the parts.

@BigTrainBuff 2 жыл бұрын

Peter, I have to agree with you on these. For instance CNC machines. If they are at all useful in a typical woodworking shop then size matters. The bigger the better, but the price goes up astronomically with size. Unless you have a monster sized shop they take up valuable space that more appropriate tools could use.

@abyshepherd6944 2 жыл бұрын

I sold an old, rubbish, table saw on marketplace. I did an honest and fair description and explained my issues with the saw to the buyer. He was happy as it filled a need he had. As long as you are open your conscience should be clear when selling / giving away. Interesting to hear about the CNC. We are just on the cusp of buying one (getting tax payments out of the way first) as we are looking at doing one off or small runs of items. Another good video Mr M! Thanks.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Aby! For one-offs and small runs a CNC is perfect - it’s just not something I really do, and even the smaller machines like mine take up a chunk of bench space in a small workshop. 👍

@paulmatthews8708 2 жыл бұрын

Graco Ultra. My experience too, rubbish after the first 5 minutes. (First one replaced under warranty, second one patchy at best.) If I need to spray I use my Graco 390PC, it just works. The Ultra just sits on the shelf...

@geoffreygriffiths1487 2 жыл бұрын

I started with an Earlex Paint sprayer, which is nothing more than a vacuum cleaner in reverse, then upgraded to a Fuji sprayer. Both systems are excellent. I still use the Earlex at my cabin from time to time and get great results. I have used airless sprayers before and they can be a huge pain in the ass when they don't work well. The problem is that the paint is under very high pressure which is hard on all the parts, so they would just fail more often.

@Steve_Wardley_G6JEF 2 жыл бұрын

I made the mistake of buying a direct drive table saw many years ago, the tiny bit of backlash that the gearbox had meant that whenever I was cutting any sort of timber the whole thing would vibrate terribly. It seems the tiny bit of stretch in a belt drive takes out the "Buzz" from the blade cutting the wood.

@Fran-fv6pf 2 жыл бұрын

I really love your videos. You're a genuine geezer!

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👍

@ruaridhwatson2630 2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha Snap mine was also a table saw and same eBay auction scenario. Axminster TS250 PHD required for alignment, T-Slot rails incompatible with any available accessories, table insert and slot / fence/ mitre adjustment and Dust extraction are awful. A bit like my first car it has definitely given me a list of things I must check on my next table saw Before purchase 🤣

@olewurtz7625 2 жыл бұрын

It takes a big person to admit his/her mistakes, so thanks for sharing. As someone suggested, put the still functioning tools on eBay with an honest description and reason for sale. Maybe donate the proceeds to a charity of your choice or buy the tool you really want, but can’t justify.

@jes1111yta 2 жыл бұрын

Shame about the Lamello - I was considering it for camper van furniture but was already doubtful about the effects of vibration/flexing - you've confirmed my fears. As to the CNC, I now have a 3000x2000mm monster with water-cooled spindle and vacuum table 🤪 - it earns its money with contract cutting jobs (mostly with plastics) so it's "free" as a tool for the van business - love it, couldn't live without it. My own "worst purchase" must.be the Festool LR32 system - it was stupidly expensive and shortly after buying it I got the big CNC so I used it precisely once 🤬! Love your videos - keep on trucking!

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy! I'd love a full-size CNC, and can definitely see uses for them, but yes, I wouldn't trust a Tenso on anything that was likely to move or vibrate; Clamex maybe, but not the Tenso. 👍

@andyjames8612 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the Graco Ultra after seeing your videos, didn’t need the Ultramax as I only use water based paint. I used various paints, Dulux, Tikkurila, Benjamin Moore and it was ok, then the pump went and I got it replaced under warranty. The pump went again after about a year so I bought a new pump and replaced it myself which took about 30 seconds and I started using Sayerlack paint and nothing else. What a difference using that paint has made! Great, flawless finish, it’s almost if my Graco loves it. Yeah the pump will go again and it’ll cost me £170 for a new one but it pays for itself. I treat my Graco pretty badly now, I leave it with paint sitting in it for days on end and clean it out when I feel like it but it doesn’t seem to affect its performance. It seems all the cleaning, flushing it through with water, wrapping it in cotton wool after every use wasn’t good for it. Treat it mean, keep it keen…

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, thanks! Never used sayerlack, but Alastair Johnson does at over at freebird and he rates it highly. Good to know it makes the Graco happy too! 👍👍

@andyjames8612 2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop yeah it was Alastair that recommended Sayerlack to me 👍🏻

@benny7617 2 жыл бұрын

Don't feel bad we all have some of those tools that don't work out.

@joutilas 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a large batch of powertools from a bankruptcy auction of a construction company. Quality tools, but they hadn't been used kindly. I spent many days cleaning them up and going through all the missing parts and accessories. I like to keep my tools clean and in good shape, so eventually ended up just replacing most of them with new tools.

@craigpeel5995 2 жыл бұрын

Your face was a picture talking about the Lutz 😂😂 we’ve all been there mate👍

@thomlipiczky9021 2 жыл бұрын

THanks for the confessional. Go in peace, my son. You are absolved. Good to know I'm not the only one!

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

👍

@Konzertheld 2 жыл бұрын

Very very good point on CNCs. I used computer design all the time, it just works better for me, so a CNC would not be that far a stretch, to be honest, if I had the money and space, I would have already bought one. But computer design is completely different in a lot of ways and if you are not used to it at all AND have no interest in learning it (which I had and loved it), that would be a huge extra step to take you would not enjoy and that just to be able to use the CNC at all.

@martinlouden9005 2 жыл бұрын

We've all been there Peter, and no doubt will be again in the future. But its all part of the huge learning curve we call life!

@fugenfuller-rp1fu 2 жыл бұрын

I also bought a table saw 1,5 years ago in a rush because it was a good deal on Ebay. The saw is actually good but the dust collection is so bad that I never use it. It is a good example what can happen when things fit to 90% but the missing 10% are actually very important. Thanks for the video!

@antoniskokodis8169 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I have 2 10 inch Bosch table saw they run nicely and also have dewalt 54v portable table saw to take with me at work and is the best saw...so accurate

@Muis83 2 жыл бұрын

For someone new to woodworking as a hobby that tablesaw will be great. Fitted with a new multiplex top and diy ripfence it will take years before they grow above it’s possibilities… would switch that lutz any time with my kinzo… the other tools would be awesome to own, but probably would almost never use them, just like you.

@nicktomic3473 2 жыл бұрын

I’m totally with you on Graco I literally sold it within a week of buying it so thankfully didn’t loose a stack of cash, with regards to the tenso they’re classed as a gluing aid and for things to be pulled in nice and tight you’re panels need to be nice amd straight too, if you like I can ask lamello to pay you a visit to see if there’s not any other underlining issues that you may have missed ? They’re a good bunch and extremely helpful. Regards. Nick (interior Developments)

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

The issue with the tenso is during glue-ups - I had to add clamps to a self-clamping connector is ridiculous, and the comedy moment included here was just to show how poor they are - I'd have no hesitation in making that base to side manoeuvre with dowels or dominos, which aren't 'self-clamping'. 👍

@fred463 2 жыл бұрын

We all buy something that in the end turns out to be a bit of rubbish. I read the reviews on tools and this can help but it is not foolproof. I bought a biscuit joiner that cuts slots at an angle that turns out to be the opposite angle for the joining piece. It is completely useless. I can't in good conscience sell it to anyone, so it has turned out to be a live and learn. I think about welding it up and squaring it up but it is really not worth the trouble.

@bigboper111 2 жыл бұрын

i felt the same about my zeta bought a standard blade now use it as a regular biscuit jointer

@mahmut123456 2 жыл бұрын

reg. Graco: for small workshops like yours and for cabinetry I would go with something with less overspray. Maybe an HVLP or an XVLP by Wagner...

@ThekiBoran 2 жыл бұрын

I have the graco ultra cordless. It's been fantastic.

@NickCharlton0 2 жыл бұрын

I'd deffinitely be interested in that table saw if you did end up wanting to sell it! Been trying to up my striped chopping board game and so am in the market for one haha! Great video as always!

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

I'll bear that in mind Nick, thanks! 👍

@EricJacobson1990 Жыл бұрын

Man, i would be super bummed out by that table saw too, that sucks!

@Tarbard 2 жыл бұрын

More table than saw - gave me a chuckle.

@AngieWilliamsDesigns 2 жыл бұрын

This was great. Thanks for sharing. I think I only have two purchases that I regret. One was a sublimation printer. Which has nothing to do with woodworking. But I regret it because I could have spent it on a tool for the shop. And the other was a Dremel tool that I can’t even remember the name of it. I used it a couple of times just to try it out and see what it could do. I don’t even know why I wanted it. But I’ve not used it in 5 years. LOL. I should get rid of it.

@10MinuteWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Angie! Oh wow, dye-sub printers, that takes me back! The horror... the horror... 😂 👍

@whomadethatsaltysoup 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Yes, PayPal money doesn't seem like real money, well, not until the end of the month. It is so easy to get caught up in the moment, and watching inspiring videos like yours does tend to make one feel, as you often have said, spendy. Like so many others, I'd love to play with the Domino, but I tend only to buy tools that I'd also use onsite. And TBH, I wouldn't dream of taking a tool like that onto a building site - I mean, hey, where would I use it - it would be in the back of someone's van before morning tea break!

@whomadethatsaltysoup 2 жыл бұрын

Just a quick question. Do you have any experience of using the self clamping biscuits? Apparently, they work with a standard biscuit joiner.

@barrydoxseyuk 2 жыл бұрын

Well that is a good group. The saw table, with the fence that obviously is un-reliable. Yes I have one of another make, but aluminium top. For a time I bolt a part sheet of MDF on top. Helped but of couse didn't last as the MDF (non MR) expanded through mosture. Like you mine is a good surface to lay thing on. Space saver, not.

@bobsnow1996 Жыл бұрын

Oh... Peter haven't we all made terrible buys... but, we tell ourselves it looked so good and it looked like the answer to all our wood working dreams. I still think you're on the up side I could have done a video... "Oh crap why did I buy these 10 dumb tools!" Got up early this morning and watched several Track Saw videos... your tip on the Strawbyte jig... just brilliant! Keep up the good work!

@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍