Who says the temple is ancient, or was even originally built to specifically honour him? There are generic Piranha Plant ruins all over the Gritzy Caves - it’s even entirely possible that the ruins were altered to honour this new deity, especially since all of the Petey effigies are all in perfect condition. There are also “Ruins” in the Kong Civilisation that are likely relatively recently constructed structures, so either way it’s entirely plausible.

Ruins aren’t necessarily ancient, and even if they are the statues weren’t necessarily there from the getgo. If they were already Piranha Plant ruins then the arrival of Petey Piranha as a powerful Piranha Plant could’ve caused the locals to revere him and alter the statues in their temples to reflect his arrival. The alternative is that the statues are prophetic, but that’s lame. This is also why I think the Ruins on Donkey Kong Island are very recent, as some depict the modern Donkey Kong while others depict things like Girders and Oil Barrels from the Metro Kingdom. Deserts can be and often are near the ocean, and I am suggesting that they’d likely be connected via an underground tunnel system regardless. And yeah, I noticed that too when researching earlier today…

Good point about DK Island!

Petey might open a little shop of horrors

Thought the same thing when I saw this

Naval Piranha was also created by Kamek’s magic. It’s unlikely they exist in the natural world. Perhaps the Shroobs also took some Naval Piranha DNA for Petey though.

Recording in what sense? I have various documents and a timeline of games, and I share most of my discoveries on the discord server (link in the description). I’m also happy to answer any questions, either casually or through my Tumblr asks.

@@seandwalsh3 I was referring to documentation thank you

Piranha Plants are animals that mimic plants, not actual plants, so it likely wouldn’t be all too difficult for them to create something like Petey, relatively speaking.

Swiggler is red/green, so Shroob mutants can come in all sorts of colours!

@@seandwalsh3 ah ok 👍

Petey exists in the past of Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, therefore the Time Machine is not relevant.

​@@seandwalsh3from one of your r/marioverse comments you said that baby bowser and the koopa army defeated the shroobs before they could invade the mushroon kingdon if future mario and luigi didn't travel to the past, but doesn't make sense since Egadd didn't creat the time machine, so bowser jr couldnt have copie petey. I hope i explained well

@@drfardnerd5596 they didn’t defeat the Shroobs before they invaded the Mushroom Kingdom, they just defeated the Shroobs before they took over the Mushroom Kingdom and the rest of the planet. Petey would’ve been made before they were defeated.

Thank you. The Petey Piranha in Mario Strikers Charged actually doesn’t have paint based abilities - he’s the real Petey, and he spits mud instead of goop.

That’s the way Yoshi himself pronounces it, so that’s what I go with

After Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time’s past, as that’s when the Shroob invasion happened, yes.

Pretty sure a Mario timeline is impossible. In Luigi's Mansion, the Mario Bros. meet E. Gadd for the first time while Bowser is dead but in Partners in Time they already know him even though Bowser is still alive. I guess Bowser could have been somehow resurrected but good luck finding anything to support that.

@@victzegopterix2 Bowser was dead?

@@pasalasaga, yes, and real death, not a lava bath to go back in the next game, no coming back, Bowser himself never is in the Luigi's Mansion games after all. Iirc, this information is given by the fortune teller ghost in the first Luigi's Mansion. Not sure if it's ever mentioned in other part of the game though but it's here. T'makes kinda sense with the final boss I guess.

@victzegopterix2victorindem895 A Mario Timeline is quite easily done if you actually pay attention to what’s said in the games. Bowser is not dead in the Luigi’s Mansion games, obviously. Madame Clairvoya only says Mario defeated Bowser, which he has done several times, and she herself has been trapped in a painting for years. Luigi’s Mansion is set around the mid-point of the timeline.

@@seandwalsh3, the word used is indeed defeated but the rest of the quote makes it very clear that Bowser is really dead, Clairvoya is surprised to see Bowser and wonders right after "Has King Boo somehow *revived* Bowser? This could be horrible!". Also, it's not exactly said that Bowser was defeated, it is said "I thought that Mario had *soundly defeated* Bowser!", he wasn't defeated like he always is, he was completely defeated, he's not supposed to come back as he normally always does. Or else how could he be revivable. He's just dead in the Luigi's Mansions.

I’ve played both

@@seandwalsh3 Themes you want in Mario Maker 3.

@@mohdadeeb1829 they should finish them off. Tower, Volcano, Mountain and Beach.

@@seandwalsh3 Maybe you won't read this but here's my solution to "Theme" / "Course Element" problem of Mario Maker. Give us Theme (Like Grass Land or Water) and an element (Like Overworld or Underworld). We can have 40+ Course Elements not counting Night Time Theme.

In Super Mario Sunshine he is intended to be fake

@@seandwalsh3 That really isn't what the developers were going for. While there are fake bosses like King boo Petey seems to be intended to be real. We see in the New Super Mario series he's one of Bowser's go to Minions. I also seriously doubt they made his first appearance a fake him. Edit: Great channel btw

@@__Soya__ It is explicitly what the developers were going for. King Boo and Petey were both fakes, as almost every enemy in the game is. That’s why he melts into paint, they have confirmed this. Originally a real Petey Piranha may not have even been intended to exist.

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The Mario & Luigi series is absolutely canon to mainline. It’s confirmed. Why wouldn’t it be?

I just thought it wasn't canon because it wasn't made by Nintendo Nice video btw 👍

@@countbleck132 the series was made by Nintendo in collaboration with Alphadream. Pretty much as long as Nintendo Published a game, it’s canon. Thank you!

​@@seandwalsh3so is Marios time machine Canon?

@@Nintentoni no

Those are the pronouns he’s referred to with in the games and therefore the ones I will use.

@@seandwalsh3 but in some regions she's not referred as a "he" for example in France and Belgium Peetee is a "she/her" like i just referred to her earlier (so honestly it could be preferable to referred her as a it/they or whatever)

@@Skypatroller_BenCD Other regions getting his pronouns wrong isn’t really my concern. I’m here to get them right. His pronouns are he/him, and those are the ones I will continue to use.

@@seandwalsh3 faire enough but we might see what is her Japanese pronoun tho

@@Skypatroller_BenCD he/him

Go ahead

@@seandwalsh3 How can I convince my brother that Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi is canon?

@@Wacky_Plumber well I would ask why your brother doesn’t think that Mario & Luigi is canon. It’s referenced in the main series games and published by Nintendo, so in order to convince him they’re canon we would have to understand his perspective. As for Paper Mario, I would recommend reading this post: www.reddit.com/r/Marioverse/comments/10ogc2y/yes_paper_mario_is_canon/?

@@seandwalsh3 Thank you, I'll show this to him.

@@seandwalsh3 I think the post you recommend worked, he now believes Paper Mario is canon. As for Mario & Luigi im still not sure, I'll try getting his perspective on it.