Petscop: A Cryptic Family Mystery

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Night Mind

Night Mind

5 жыл бұрын

Petscop decided to deliver a full basket of videos this past Easter, and it's time to see what answers we're finally able to glean.
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@NightMind
@NightMind 5 жыл бұрын
inb4 "next update when nick?!?!?"
@ShyLuckyVixen
@ShyLuckyVixen 5 жыл бұрын
When's the next update nick??? Just kidding, good work on the video so far!
@nezirahsenpai6191
@nezirahsenpai6191 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for existing kind sir
@yugal.prakash
@yugal.prakash 5 жыл бұрын
Petscop 2 when??
@Onehandguy
@Onehandguy 5 жыл бұрын
next update when nick?!?!?
@lucyinchat
@lucyinchat 5 жыл бұрын
'this is not for you'
@MCOmegaX123
@MCOmegaX123 5 жыл бұрын
And finally: Petscop, from the very beginning, has *not* been about 'us solving the mystery'. It's been about *Paul* solving the mystery, we're just along for the ride. You were 100% right when you said it's not an ARG. It's *not* an ARG, it's a narrative video series.
@10coatofarms68
@10coatofarms68 5 жыл бұрын
I think that this IS a story with ARG game elements, (the one thing i don't understand is, if it's just a story told THROUGH gameplay is why is it being fed to us so slowly,) and if this isn't an ARG why are there so many clues? (So that the main character can find them, true but if the story is already complete why such a slow reveal?) I think if you're a ARG player you would be looking for games to play. I do think this "ARG" has enough clues and story to get ARG players interested, and these players would think this is an ARG. (ARG game elements means clues and leads.) Edit: players
@hackerdackers8832
@hackerdackers8832 5 жыл бұрын
@@10coatofarms68 ARG elements is fan interactions, not clues. There are many great mystery shows that promote you to look for clues and try figure it out as you go along, but these are not ARGs. Petscop is not an ARG, and it was wrong for Night Mind to treat it as such.
@GrapplingHookJones
@GrapplingHookJones 4 жыл бұрын
"It's been about Paul solving the mystery" Paul isn't even in the series at the moment "it's a narrative video series" the narrative is going nowhere quickly
@Bashuraptor
@Bashuraptor 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I got bored with Petscop long before this video. More of the same is no fun.
@davidabest7195
@davidabest7195 4 жыл бұрын
Petscop is a garbage series for stupid people lol
@ArtForSwans
@ArtForSwans 5 жыл бұрын
"You're the only visitor to 'Even Care.'" Petscop seems to be a story about child neglect. Paul helped Care ("Carrie") early on in the series. Paul is the only visitor to even care.
@lukaastraearose5227
@lukaastraearose5227 5 жыл бұрын
petscop is a story game about Care, who, iirc, was kidnapped, rehomed into a highly religious family, Rebirthed (the process of swaddling a person in blankets, sitting on them, suffocating them to simulate the feeling of birth), and dying. a lot of things in the game hints at real life events, and other people (not night mind bc hes a twat ig) have included articles of Care and what happened to her. its been a hot year since ive seen the videos, but theyre there. somewhere. by someone who actually looked into the details and did research.
@brunomiguel6156
@brunomiguel6156 4 ай бұрын
@@lukaastraearose5227 its not about newmaker
@conflictt3224
@conflictt3224 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like im having a bit of a stroke here, theres a lot of re-re-re-reading lines over and over.
@MCOmegaX123
@MCOmegaX123 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's another thing I wanted to call out (see my four recent replies to the video as to why it's 'another'), but I don't want to have to say "I lied again, *this* is finally the 'finally'", plus you called it out already so there we go.
@jordanmiller3824
@jordanmiller3824 5 жыл бұрын
i really thought my youtube was fuckin up
@conflictt3224
@conflictt3224 5 жыл бұрын
@@MCOmegaX123 Honestly I think a lot of his points are valid. Theres a few fun theories that dont have a ton to build off of yet really, and the censorship of the random coffin items was wholly unnecessary and obnoxious, regardless of who did it in-universe. It hid nothing and was just a pointless mystery box with no satisfying reveal. Not his best video, but not as bad as people are taking it tbh.
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@conflictt3224 Yeah, good defense. That totally justifies him making a 40 minute video with nearly no real work put in just to get the view time. Defend him all you want, but his work has been complete trash for over a year now.
@Yacob44
@Yacob44 5 жыл бұрын
@@DriscolDevil I've enjoyed his recent content.
@mehIXIX
@mehIXIX 5 жыл бұрын
The moment Nick asked about the button presses forming words is the moment it became very clear that he hadn't done his research.
@doodleydooo945
@doodleydooo945 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it! I rolled my eyes so hard when he said that
@sawneytenmillion8339
@sawneytenmillion8339 5 жыл бұрын
The petscop community decoded the language, a very long time ago at that!! Its like nick didnt even try
@zenithrium
@zenithrium 5 жыл бұрын
as soon as i heard that my heart just sunk man, he's used external resources before in previous topics why didn't he at least glance at the petscop comprehensive progress document. i know it's not like plastered everywhere but it's not like hard to find
@SkigBiggler
@SkigBiggler 5 жыл бұрын
@@zenithrium I mean, it's pretty much attached to every video on Petscop I've seen
@zenithrium
@zenithrium 5 жыл бұрын
MicroTransactionsMatterToo oof maybe I’m the one who hasn’t done enough research lol guess I missed it? My bad
@qwertyqeys
@qwertyqeys 5 жыл бұрын
I think you might have rose tinted glasses when it comes to Marble Hornets, because I remember there being REALLY long stretches of time where instead of feeling like we were getting more information, we were actually being told "here's even more gaps, time to play catch up with the timeline"
@HollowHouse3
@HollowHouse3 5 жыл бұрын
Remember Eckva? The supposed true successor to Marble Hornets that NM did a video on a while back? I can't imagine he'd like that one at all because it's uploaded similarly over the last two years, there's a total of 17 videos on that channel and those are far more fragmented and narratively disconnected than the info that's trickled out through petscop.
@SaturdayXIII
@SaturdayXIII 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The third season was nearly unwatchable because of how formulaic it got. Remember the video game they helped make that was supposed to redefine horror games, then ended up being exactly the same as all the free fan games that already existed? MH's first season was lightning and they never did manage to bottle it.
@LadyTigerLily
@LadyTigerLily 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. That's also why I stopped watching MH by season 3. I really think the appeal of Petscop is that it ISN'T an ARG. I think Nick is kind of missing the point of Petscop doing this series kind of with a disregard for the audience. We're figuring it out because we want to, making theories, piecing things together, making fan art, making videos... and not because Petscop is asking us to. And that's kind of cool. It's a big box of Legos and we're making things with the pieces they've given us, instructions or no.
@expendableindigo9639
@expendableindigo9639 5 жыл бұрын
@@SaturdayXIII I have no idea what you or the OP are talking about, there were very few slow parts in Marble Hornets. Especially compared to something like Tribe Twelve where we got an entire like 20-30 minutes of the main character refusing to open a journal and it taunting him with it's grating voice.
@SaturdayXIII
@SaturdayXIII 5 жыл бұрын
@@expendableindigo9639 Marble Hornets definitely isn't the worst of perpetrators when it comes to cliffhanger grinding, but that doesn't mean they did it well either.
@kellyzaldana1018
@kellyzaldana1018 5 жыл бұрын
the large chunks of repeated reading of Rainer’s messages threw me for a loop cause i was like “wait didn’t we hear this whole thing already?”
@NatsumenoKage
@NatsumenoKage 5 жыл бұрын
Petscop is not playing out like an ARG it's running like a let's play.
@kadesjunkdrawer2233
@kadesjunkdrawer2233 5 жыл бұрын
NatsumenoKage thank you
@submariNervous
@submariNervous 5 жыл бұрын
Just so we're clear, that was _not_ intended as a complaint, right? (Not trying to be a d*ck, it's just hard to tell through text in the KZfaq Comment Section™, you know?)
@wdubs1
@wdubs1 5 жыл бұрын
If Petscop was running like a Let's Play we'd be getting a new episode every day. And I'm fairly certain most Let's Plays don't have the commentator completely disappear for half the series.
@poochillipickles8525
@poochillipickles8525 5 жыл бұрын
Yes omg
@DemonixTB
@DemonixTB 5 жыл бұрын
@@wdubs1 whatever Petscop is is not an ARG though. it tells its story at the pace it wants and only reveals what it wants, there is not much to be solved in petscop, you just have to wait and see how it turns out, there has been 0 viewerbase interaction (a basic requirement for an arg) since the series started and it will upmost likely stay that way.
@imachuckster
@imachuckster 5 жыл бұрын
me 43 minutes ago: oh no, why are there so many dislikes? don't people like petscop? :( me now: ah
@Mr061099
@Mr061099 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, my reaction exactly.
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he was this lazy with this house has people in it.
@dorjjodvo1992
@dorjjodvo1992 5 жыл бұрын
@@DriscolDevil the difference is astounding
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@dorjjodvo1992 exactly, talk about a thing not giving any answers with tons of content, and he went ahead and gave us his personal interpretation based on his research. Here, we get none of that. Felt less like a nightmind vid and more like an ign review.
@Sigismund697
@Sigismund697 5 жыл бұрын
People usually don't like being told their show is faulty even when they are right
@SpazamsTV
@SpazamsTV 5 жыл бұрын
Night Mind made a part 2 before Pyrocynical!
@unbrokenbore5338
@unbrokenbore5338 5 жыл бұрын
welp there goes my joke
@BullofCrete
@BullofCrete 5 жыл бұрын
Son of a bitch, he stole my line.
@The4664GAME
@The4664GAME 5 жыл бұрын
so guys, he did it
@ARYS3N
@ARYS3N 5 жыл бұрын
The4664GAME you didn’t
@sodiepopps
@sodiepopps 5 жыл бұрын
for**
@KeeveBlanco
@KeeveBlanco 5 жыл бұрын
Pyrocynical: Doesn't release Petscop 2 Night Mind: "Well someone's gotta do it."
@alannielsen4099
@alannielsen4099 5 жыл бұрын
pyros vid was just night minds petscop in cliff notes to begin with so now this is out i bet $20 pyro sums up this video again in the next five days thats a guarantee.
@clownworld641
@clownworld641 5 жыл бұрын
Ha
@machomanalexyt5736
@machomanalexyt5736 5 жыл бұрын
"IF I DON'T WHO WILL?!"
@camproductions5756
@camproductions5756 5 жыл бұрын
@@alannielsen4099 damn, when did pyro shit in ur scrambled eggs?
@yungboy4216
@yungboy4216 5 жыл бұрын
@@alannielsen4099 if that was the case then why is it over an hour long?
@NoFairMrBear
@NoFairMrBear 5 жыл бұрын
Paul didn't censor the items, the people who took control of the channel did. Also it's pretty much accepted that Daniel is Rainer. I know you put this out pretty soon after but you missed a lot...
@yuyuyuribong
@yuyuyuribong 5 жыл бұрын
he fucked up on this vid
@MFTMSS
@MFTMSS 5 жыл бұрын
Wait what is the evidence regarding Daniel being Rainer?
@MCOmegaX123
@MCOmegaX123 5 жыл бұрын
Well shit, I thought I just came up with that after noticing the similarities in name (shift a couple letters around and replace the first and last with R's)... Guess I need to go back to /r/petscop again.
@snooplenny3765
@snooplenny3765 5 жыл бұрын
@@MFTMSS We know rainer (which was in quotes in the description of the channel as if it was a nickname) created the game for marvin and there is text on screen in petscop 19 in the mike2 recording when mike finds the egg he complains how the egg was in Daniel's game.
@TheZenytram
@TheZenytram 5 жыл бұрын
no, daniel it is not rainer, and no it is not a consensus with every body, don't jump on conclusion .
@grosezero8834
@grosezero8834 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your critiques of petscop for not giving enough clues and such because petscop never presented itself as an RNG kind of thing, they never interacted with the fans, don't have any social media except for the channel and never rewarded or encouraged looking for any clues. they are just uploading really vague videos and trying to tell a story in a way that they want to tell it and nothing more, it's not their responsibility to be interactive because their fans are interactive or to make it a satisfying puzzle because everyone that wants to solve it
@ianalvord3903
@ianalvord3903 5 жыл бұрын
yes buuuuuuut... Every medium of entertainment has at least SOME interaction with its fans. Even authors way-back-when would talk to readers.
@soupieratalt
@soupieratalt 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianalvord3903 on r/petscop many of us believe u/paleskowitz IS involved in the creation of petscop (because paleskowitz = pa + leskowitz = Paul Leskowitz.) The post this user made was what brought MOST of the viewers to the series (from what I've seen, y'know before youtubers with bigger followings picked it up) I mean the creators probably do actively engage in the community, just not in the most obvious way
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianalvord3903 Wrong. Not every form of entertainment is interactive.
@helloofthebeach
@helloofthebeach 5 жыл бұрын
The only part of Petscop that seems like a message directed at the audience is when the about page basically said "chill out, this isn't an ARG, just wait for new episodes".
@expendableindigo9639
@expendableindigo9639 5 жыл бұрын
lol RNG instead of ARG
@EhrenCG
@EhrenCG 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like you watched a different Petscop than me. With Petscop I actually feel like I'm understanding it a lot better than I ever did with Marble Hornets... Yeah, the answers lead to more questions, but I still feel like I am getting good answers and besides the wait between videos it doesn't feel like it's dragging on too long to me.
@WretchedRedoran
@WretchedRedoran 5 жыл бұрын
I mean what'ya expect, i'm pretty sure he's an SCP anyways
@SensoTai
@SensoTai 5 жыл бұрын
Ehren I’m pretty sure he is referring to the 21 videos in 2 years, and the ton of dead air in some of the videos.
@Lottanubs
@Lottanubs 5 жыл бұрын
@@SensoTai It's an art project not an ARG, dead air is a part of the narrative. Night Mind likes Alan Resnick a lot and his Alan Tutorial series took years, too.
@EhrenCG
@EhrenCG 5 жыл бұрын
Too many cuts would be confusing in this medium, since it's a video game it would make it seem like the player was just being directly warped from place to place.
@gusmon6898
@gusmon6898 5 жыл бұрын
Plus I bet it takes forever to make just one video anyways so I don't mind it
@thunderkojote7746
@thunderkojote7746 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, did we watch the same webseries?? I absolutely ADORE the pacing of petscop. Sure, it gives you a bunch of questions, but as you go on, with each episode, you realize all the questions are interconnected. You dont get many answers but that doesnt change my enjoyment of the series, and I'm suprised you didnt get as much out of it as I did.
@hoodspawn9073
@hoodspawn9073 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr? It’s so much fun!
@q-uivs
@q-uivs 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah like the whole series is mysterious but always gives you something pretty concrete to chew on. Even the pacing is sick.
@damienthonk1506
@damienthonk1506 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that it's too slow and gets boring after a while. Perhaps the issue will fix itself once the series is over, but in it's unfinished state, it just feels kinda... bare and tedious.
@kiralonely1307
@kiralonely1307 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like the abstract lingering feeling it has, and the timing and pacing gives you room to think instead of being bombarded with info. I like the subtle hints rather than in your face information, and I like how roundabout and creatively they go about sharing said info. Sometimes it feels boring, but that's to be expected tbh, and I'd rather have moments of boredom than something too obvious or boring constantly.
@allansantos1615
@allansantos1615 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video and understand your feelings towards the pace of the story, but I feel like you are ignoring a huge chunk of evidence by not addressing the rebirthing stuff which seem to be the main theme of the series, which was there from the start. Newmaker, rebirth, "quitter", Care supposedly being Lina reborn (and Marvin being excited about that, with Rainer saying to him "I have a guess at which child you'll pick next"), Paul saying that "he bears a strong resemblance" to Care, someone trying to use a machine to make Belle become Tiara (and Pink Tool mentioning a machine "beyond the school basement stairway", where Care was), etc.
@fallenhero516
@fallenhero516 5 жыл бұрын
He also kinda glossed over the Reiner talking to Paul about him being care. Which is one of the biggest bombshells of the whole series
@Sam-fv7ju
@Sam-fv7ju 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I wish he had just gone into the story more. Like I thought him critiquing the pacing was gonna be a short break from the rest of the story analysis. Hopefully he does another video about this, or else this will be pretty underwhelming.
@barthcellos
@barthcellos 5 жыл бұрын
Paul bears a strong resemblance to care, as in, he does not have any eyebrows? Does this mean the rebirth theme goes on? Lina -> Care -> Paul? Maybe Mike as well. Paul is Marvin's next victim.
@fallenhero516
@fallenhero516 5 жыл бұрын
@@barthcellos that is what it feels like or at least that's who got him in the later half of the series when he loses control of his channel honestly he could be forced to hide other parts kinda like an unreliable narrator. Using Paul to hide Marvin's true plans
@Diamond1234
@Diamond1234 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, NightMind seems to hate Game Theory so much that he's cherry picking what to cover because MattPatt did the Newmaker theory. Great. Nightmind, are you a person I can trust to give me all the facts because it looks like you aren't since you won't cover something because you don't like the person that also covered this topic. I get that you don't believe the theory but you better address it otherwise it seems like you are skipping it entirely when the facts are right in your face.
@deebee5378
@deebee5378 5 жыл бұрын
Night Mind: "I didn't make videos about Petscop because all I would be doing is summarizing, without evidence to make conclusions." Petscop: *uploads 5 videos in a single day with tons of clarifying information to work with* Night Mind: *Spends 30 minutes summarizing the videos without theorizing, and 13 minutes complaining about how slow and cryptic it is.* I usually like your videos a lot (your House of Leaves series was fantastic), but this is the first one I've watched where it felt like you were wasting my time.
@EladAmon03
@EladAmon03 5 жыл бұрын
TFW Pyrocynical made a better Petscop video.
@slackjaw0xs
@slackjaw0xs 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, watching some of Petscop's videos feels like a waste of time, too. It's hard to ignore that fact. Petscop really needs to give us something because right now, we have very very little. Precious little. It's been over two years and what do we know? Nightmind is simply pointing that out.
@5uperM
@5uperM 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I belive everyone should be more patient and not go for the series as the only thing that they can watch. If you throw away that view and be patient you will enjoy the series much more.
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@slackjaw0xs even if you think petscop is garbage, that is not a defense for this level of lazy content.
@lust_the_dust
@lust_the_dust 5 жыл бұрын
@@slackjaw0xs Have you seen the latest game theory episode regarding petscop? It helped to scratch an itch even though its just a theory.
@LosoaII
@LosoaII 5 жыл бұрын
"The only visitor to even care" Why did that only now click to me?
@andresgomeziii
@andresgomeziii 5 жыл бұрын
Thats actually really sad
@Diamond1234
@Diamond1234 5 жыл бұрын
( *Spits tea* ) OH SHIT NOW I GET IT TOO! Nice pun, Petscop, you got me. XD (Also, yeah, that is really sad.)
@sasak369
@sasak369 5 жыл бұрын
I really dig petscop, I feel like it's too bad to hear you think we aren't getting anything. I've been watching people make all kinds of interesting connections since it started and many still hold up really well.
@eerslashkill
@eerslashkill 5 жыл бұрын
There's still a lot of things we haven't seen yet. There'll be more, don't worry.
@sasak369
@sasak369 5 жыл бұрын
@@Noah-wv4td I haven't really gotten that sense personally. I sort of disagree with the interpretation that censorship was used to obfuscate key evidence. I've heard a few hypotheses for what might be behind the censors and the ones that I find plausible are things that wouldn't really help us unravel the lore, but are rather things real life people would be likely to censor. I kinda think for the amount of effort that went into this project, for the story to end up being improvised would be a terrible place to be slacking, so I guess I'm fairly optimistic about it, but there's always the possibility that the series ends up getting all tangled in nonsense mysteries after all.
@q-uivs
@q-uivs 5 жыл бұрын
@@Noah-wv4td it was revealed in petscop 20 what the censored items are
@pillgrimm
@pillgrimm 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like he's expecting too much out of something as new and different as a series like this.
@c0nqu3r3rlol
@c0nqu3r3rlol 5 жыл бұрын
I think he's just a mental midget. But that's just a theory.
@azalago
@azalago 5 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would say "Nick got it completely wrong." And now I have to. I'm not trying to be insulting or anything, but there are a lot more clues and evidence presented than you included in this video. Some of them are absolutely confirmations. I'm sorry but I really think you let negative feelings you have for this series or creator effect your judgement... and that really isn't like you at all.
@jadnf
@jadnf 5 жыл бұрын
i think the reason you don’t like petscop is because you were expecting an arg with fan interaction. which petscop isnt
@MCOmegaX123
@MCOmegaX123 5 жыл бұрын
@Rando - Literally no. It never claimed to be, people just saw that there was an overarching mystery and decided to play detective, including Nick. The point of Petscop is *Paul* solving the mystery. We're just here for the ride.
@nachgeben
@nachgeben 5 жыл бұрын
@@MCOmegaX123 It isn't even proven that Paul is involved anymore, rather than the people who were making him play.
@SegaDream131
@SegaDream131 5 жыл бұрын
How can you be so sure.....?....
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@SegaDream131 sure about what? It not being an arg? Because the creators said as much and it doesn't fit the definition. Did I clear that up for you?
@SegaDream131
@SegaDream131 5 жыл бұрын
@@DriscolDevil YOU NPCS ARE NOT PART OF THIS ARG...... NONE OF YOU HAVE A CLUE...
@sawneytenmillion8339
@sawneytenmillion8339 5 жыл бұрын
This is my fave web series of all time, so I’m disappointed to hear that you think the story is going too slow. I think the connections were all there, as I remember even pre-petscop 11 people were making connections on the petscop Reddit from new uploads that still hold up to this day. Personally I find that petscop is unique and that I actually NEVER know what to expect from a new upload, and they always blow my mind. I guess it’s just not the type of web series for everyone, but it’s the perfect web series for me, and I love it so dearly
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 5 жыл бұрын
Same for me. Although I felt like Petscop 16 is not too important...
@marcosroberto3576
@marcosroberto3576 5 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way as Nick. It's just crawling, for TWO YEARS. It feels like Hunter x Hunter. I get the videos must take HUGE amounts of time to make, but to have them give so little anwsers it's very disapointing... It's too much waking, why? I also feel they are building so much misteries that we can have a "Lost" situation here, where even the creators have no fucking clue how to anwser it all and just create a very boring end. I happy to see I'm not alone to think like this, and I REALLY hope Petscop pick it up, I loved it since the begining and I will follow until the end, but I really getting bored by it. Like when you don't love a girlfriend anymore but you still with her because it works and "2 years" and all...
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcosroberto3576 I understand that, but I just think that speeding things along would be missing the point. The dates that it does upload are just as important as the content in the videos itself, and are part of the puzzle.
@nimbus997
@nimbus997 5 жыл бұрын
Whilst we might not know EXACTLY what to expect when a new video comes out, you can bet it's going to have someone running around the same room, or same few rooms. Questions just kept piling on top of questions, but with no hints of any answer. This can work for a short time, but if a new episode comes out, I dont want to think 'wonder what I'm going to be confused about next' I still love Petscop, but I need some more answers. If it starts raising more and more, I might drop it until it finishes. I just hope that it's in the last half, and that things start to wrap up, and get resolved. At least a first act of some form.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 5 жыл бұрын
@@nimbus997 I think it is. With this latest flood if uploads, they're telling us so much, I can't tell you why they chose to upload them all at once instead of spreading them out, but I have faith that that have all of this planned. The reason why I'm so convinced there's a method to their actions is due to their insistence on remaining anonymous. We have no idea who is behind this project. Could it be the work of one person, or is it a team effort? If they had come forward and said "next episode is coming guys, please be patient" I think everyone would have gladly cut them some slack. But instead, I'm they're really dedicated to playing the part through to the bitter end. I really respect that.
@bajabarracuda4634
@bajabarracuda4634 5 жыл бұрын
Oof this video. I normally love night mind videos but man this didn’t analyze much of the amazing wonder that is petscop. It was mostly a rant with a lot of repetition.
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
So the usual nightmind video lately. I can't think of a good video he has done within a year. Pretty sure he lost whatever "magic" drew me to his channel.
@bajabarracuda4634
@bajabarracuda4634 5 жыл бұрын
Vilesentry actually the house of leaves series was amazing, which makes this so disappointing
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@bajabarracuda4634 I'm glad you got something from it, but he really lost me with house of leaves. Just felt like pure cringe for me.
@Pancakes2k
@Pancakes2k 5 жыл бұрын
I am by no means an expert with online horror/ARGs/whatever, but I have been watching this channel for a long time. In my opinion, this is one of the best ARG-type stories I've seen for one point alone; The immersion. When you watch the Petscop videos, you shouldn't look at them like an ARG. This whole story deserves to be watched as if it were an actual game that was given to Paul and you're experiencing and easter egg hunting through the game with him. When I first came across Petscop, I didn't know it was going to be an ARG, and it really got me as a generic story of just another weird, lost game that nobody has played before or was unfinished. It's refreshing and new for the format and feels more realistic than any other online horror story I've seen, including the ones covered on this channel. TL;DR: Looking at the video like an ARG just hurts the experience the creators wanted the viewers to have. Look at it like a let's play of an obscure game.
@lukaastraearose5227
@lukaastraearose5227 5 жыл бұрын
but its not an ARG, its really not. its not an alternate reality where children were kidnapped, rehomed, and rebirthed and killed, it all happened. its depressing everyone thinks a real ass story that someone has put into game format is calling it args and everything, when Paul is most likely the one who coded and did all the art for the game. its not a lets play, he knows what hes doing so he can get from point a to b without fluff, to tell a story of what happened to children. for why, idk.
@shaec7986
@shaec7986 5 жыл бұрын
...I love night mind's content but it seems he needs to stick to completed work. Hes hesitant to theorize about things when he "doesnt have all the information". At least he seems to have become now. If we wanted to just see the information the story gave us....we'd just watch the series... Nick, you asked questions we already have answers to....or at least...sorta answers.
@monicaraybrandt
@monicaraybrandt 4 жыл бұрын
we have answers now "belle, you there?" "do you remember being born?" "and now:" overall, even if a few questions were left unanswered, it was a great sendoff. nightmare masterclass did a great job covering the finale.
@wondercake9398
@wondercake9398 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the slow drip process of Petscop. I don't need a giant info dump to make it feel worthwhile. I like the excruciating details.
@fawfulbenivictor5556
@fawfulbenivictor5556 5 жыл бұрын
Nick a puzzle isnt fun if it comes out of the box finished is it? just because the moon comes out at night after you said the moon will be out doesn't mean it came out for you does it? This is a story not making sense to you then you might want to change perspective
@Itariatan
@Itariatan 5 жыл бұрын
The puzzle does come out of the box completed sometimes, but i get your point.
@CanterlotCrusader
@CanterlotCrusader 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're missing out a lot of juicy details, which I can understand if you just don't find this series fascinating, but this video feels very insubstantial as a result, which is a shame since its so long and you often do such a great job.
@FabulousSquidward
@FabulousSquidward 5 жыл бұрын
stop encouraging him to rush it. petscop has a unique atmosphere specifically because it doesn't present itself as consumable entertainment. it's a voyeuristic view into a family secret that we aren't neccecarily supposed to see.
@vtheory7531
@vtheory7531 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have described petscop better myself. I always felt like a fly on the wall whenever I see the petscop story unfold - we were never supposed to be directly involved as in a traditional ARG. Rather we are simply observing the story progress while guessing what will happen at every corner. It's like reading a mystery novel.
@tux1468
@tux1468 4 жыл бұрын
@@vtheory7531 petscop is not an arg
@vtheory7531
@vtheory7531 4 жыл бұрын
@@tux1468 I never said it is?
@doodleydooo945
@doodleydooo945 5 жыл бұрын
Night Mind: "all I would've bern able to do making a video would have amounted to summarizing what happened in the uploads and then shrugging my shoulders" Also Night Mind: _summarizes what the majority of the fanbase knew before the Easter uploads and then shrugs his shoulders_
@megamike15
@megamike15 4 жыл бұрын
so it's the don't hug me i'm scared video. where he adds nothing really.
@veebeecosplay3449
@veebeecosplay3449 4 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@mayd.7873
@mayd.7873 5 жыл бұрын
as much as i love your work, i have to say i disagree with your feelings about petscop's pacing. i have always found that the slow, creepy slither of information was the only way petscop could possibly work. those slow connections, that constant wondering and theorizing... it is, in that way, something that viewers can pick up on clues for and theorize about for days on end. i cannot imagine petscop being fast-paced. it is a story that is over twenty years in the making (from within its own universe) and we probably weren't meant to see it at all. that's what makes it so special. that's what keeps me interested and engaged, because there's so much that i DON'T know, that i SHOULDN'T know as someone who isn't a member of the family that petscop surrounds. all will be revealed in time. patience is the essence of petscop and i wouldn't have it any other way.
@WitchLunaEstrella
@WitchLunaEstrella 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I've always loved that Petscop isn't about trying to be obviously scary, but about bulding atmosphere and tension while slowly giving abstract clues to a bigger story going on. Plus I feel like that there are some things that actually can be picked up on sooner than now, even if it's not with 100% confidence.
@b.collins2656
@b.collins2656 5 жыл бұрын
also, it very much suits the idea of it being a let's play series first and foremost
@goatskin4487
@goatskin4487 5 жыл бұрын
Stop roleplaying in the comments. You should know that stuff since your a viewer and this is a mystery.
@mayd.7873
@mayd.7873 5 жыл бұрын
@@goatskin4487 i'm talking about the universe in which the story takes place; it's not "roleplaying" if an integral part of the story's mood is feeling like you're seeing something that you aren't supposed to see. the meta question of why the content is being shared to youtube as opposed to staying within the family (WITHIN THE UNIVERSE OF THE FICTITIOUS NARRATIVE) is one of the major components of petscop's appeal both as a webseries and as a fictitous let's play, especially considering the content of the channel's "about" section and the video descriptions. we don't know who is sharing the videos or why and that is a major part of the mystery of the story, which is why i quite like that the story feels far more like a slow creep of information than anything else.
@CookieQuantum
@CookieQuantum 5 жыл бұрын
The Easter uploads really worked for me because they confirmed a lot of the fan theories that have been going around for a while and that felt very rewarding, all the while dropping new clues for further speculation and reveals. I really doubt the gaps in uploads are due to IRL delays, it all feels very planned and premeditated, and they left ample clues that they would be dropping videos on Easter.
@helloofthebeach
@helloofthebeach 5 жыл бұрын
Petscop is not a puzzle series with dramatic elements. It's a dramatic series with puzzle elements. The major mysteries simply aren't ours to solve. "This is not for you" and all that. Seriously, if the Daisy-Head Mazie metaphor doesn't chill you, I don't know what to tell you. Marble Hornets was fantastic for its day but Rainer blows Alex out of the water.
@SoulSukkur
@SoulSukkur 5 жыл бұрын
Disagree. While not necessarily every video, at least every cluster of videos, every lump upload, with reasonable consistency, showed us something of value. It seems, from what you're saying, your mainly referring to our ability to piece together the narrative. I've always been just as interested in the game. This game is something that was meant to be disassembled, by hand, on the player's end. I WANT to watch the character solve these puzzles. I WANT to see what assumption about video games is going to be broken and exploited. I super appreciate the notion of game glitches and backend nonsense being the only way to proceed. You didn't even talk about episode 21. The layers, Nick! THE LAYERS!
@KittyCrystal
@KittyCrystal 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe Nick doesn't understand us crazy gamer kids.
@ZeroX7649
@ZeroX7649 5 жыл бұрын
@@KittyCrystal I'd say it's the way it's being presented. We have a limited upload schedule. Did we really need Petscop 21? No. Probably not. Not unless that sign is going to be some sort of ground breaking revolution.
@griefinnub3745
@griefinnub3745 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. The fact that they show the character's action and movement is actually one of the point for the "input recording" thing. There's a lot of video in Petscop that we can sync the movement together. I'm disappointed that my beloved channel, NightMind, doesn't seem to acknowledge that fact. Still, this channel is amazing and I will keep supporting it. We have our own different opinions after all.
@SoulSukkur
@SoulSukkur 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroX7649 well. i know it opened up MY eyes
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@griefinnub3745 this isn't a difference in opinion, it is him doing a 40 minute video on a thing he did no research for. I loved the channel too, but don't defend this lazy crap just because you like what he use to do. That is how you get more lazy vids like this.
@SquareWaveHeaven
@SquareWaveHeaven 5 жыл бұрын
Solid answers are over-rated sometimes. I think all of the theories, creeps, feels, ambience, that almost Lovecraftian sense of mystery and dread are what makes Petscop great. The ponderings on free will, consciousness, child abuse, cyclical patterns, unlikely connections, abstract symbols, new gameplay mechanics, have all been thoroughly entertaining. The confusion is a big part of that, I think.
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I like the slow buildup as some of our theories from early on start to become more and more likely.
@kiralonely1307
@kiralonely1307 2 жыл бұрын
That's it! That vague Lovecraft creeping lingering abstract sensation, instead of this "boo, here's some puzzles" stuff. It's psychological and philosophical and takes it in new directions that I haven't seen in a lot of horror stuff. The confusion isn't a frustrating one, and if it is, you're looking at the whole game wrong then, cause it's supposed to be this light curious craving, not a "GODDAMNIT" moment. You want more, but in the natural way Petscop does it, not in this like "throw info in your face" manner that NM seems to expect.
@spencethebence
@spencethebence 5 жыл бұрын
Eh I'm with everyone else. It's pretty disappointing you think the pace is off. Every bit is satisfying for me because the medium is such a spectacle. I don't think it needs to pick up the pace, because that kind of rush can take a series and throw all the information down without actually thinking or turning it into art. The slow nature of the information provided makes the process feel more natural I feel like Paul is actually playing the game and is in on discovering the mystery with us. A quick edit to every part of the game that gives information would be awful. I get that you think the anticipation is too much but for a lot of us that's why we love this series.
@rykiaharada8185
@rykiaharada8185 5 жыл бұрын
And so, NM fell from grace started. that intelligent, charming analyst is slowly going away.
@viomputer
@viomputer 5 жыл бұрын
that started immediately after his slenderverse series ended
@rykiaharada8185
@rykiaharada8185 5 жыл бұрын
Laura Palmer Vevo Whit the comment Can I have a coup of coffee black as midnight please? yea, those tribe twelve and Everyman hybrids where good, (besides tribe 12 tried to do a Twin Peaks like plot in the second half of is run) but even the occasional videos he made helped me discover some interesting content. From my personal Point, the true fall from quality began whit the whole Jack Torrence series, but it’s true that the content was lacking since Slenderverse.
@viomputer
@viomputer 5 жыл бұрын
Rykia Harada thats fair enough
@Kleoath
@Kleoath 5 жыл бұрын
I love that it's not giving any answers. Some of my favourite pieces of media are that of David Lynch, and he never explains anything ever. The intrigue of the show for me is the theorizing. Picking each new video clean for any bit of information possible and trying it in any way possible to try and find the answer. If they just gave us the answers then it would ruin the mystery. Even the amount of exposition that they gave in the most recent videos felt a bit forced because it was so much more than we had ever expected to get all at once. Petscop has been so incredible so far, I'm willing to wait years for the conclusion as long as they keep doing it the way they are now.
@violetjune5046
@violetjune5046 5 жыл бұрын
Glad someone mentioned Lynch. Petscop heavily reminds me of Lynch’s most inaccessible film Inland Empire. It’s also similar in structure with experimental and surrealistic editing and pacing along with absolutely no concrete exposition outside of a few establishing scenes. Also like Petscop it’s not just nonsense but requires a very fine comb to gather all the pieces.
@WylieBunny
@WylieBunny 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I feel about Petscop. It's a lot of fun to watch videos on other people's theories and perspectives. I get excited when a new Petscop video is released, but I also get really excited knowing there will be a flood of new theory videos coming out after it. I don't need all the answers given to me at once, I'm just enjoying the ride. NM just seems really impatient with this. Sometimes it's just enjoyable to speculate and guess and try to draw connections. I don't mind waiting months on end to get new content. When I see a new Petscop come out I get just as excited about it as when I first started watching it a year ago.
@thegradualreport
@thegradualreport 5 жыл бұрын
Man, your narrating and editing has taken a turn. That's sad, I really enjoy how you did things a year or 2 ago.
@zanhorncarter6331
@zanhorncarter6331 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@forestbr34th54
@forestbr34th54 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone really added to this. Despite your dissaproval even matpat had something diffrent that nobody else talked about. For example tool is a piano tuner. So indeed. Kudos to everyone who managed to come up with details
@cryptia
@cryptia 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, this doesn't even feel like one of your videos. I can see you really rushed it. The video is more than 40 minutes long and you didn't talk about almost anything. You repeated the same lines a lot and missed tons of clues that appeared in those last 5 uploads alone! You barely talked about them. And I thought everybody knew at this point that Paul is NOT in control of the channel, he recorded the footage, but he is not the one uploading or editing it. He wasn't even talking to the audience in the first uploads, he was talking to somebody specifically and using the videos to communicate with this person. Petscop has it's own way of telling it's story, it doesn't follow the traditional ARG structure, and that's great. I hadn't even noticed it until you brought it up. I think that shows just how it's not an important factor. But idk, maybe I'm just used to the Nightmare Masterclass videos about Petscop, where he talks more in depth about each upload.
@kak10053
@kak10053 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as he said Paul was the one censoring it I cringed. The family is the only one with communication directly to the audience
@DarynLuna
@DarynLuna 5 жыл бұрын
yeah he repeated the same bit like 4 times
@GHProductionss
@GHProductionss 4 жыл бұрын
@Justin O's Channel Nothing really makes it scary. It's more suspense, it conveys a sense of dread. It creates intrigue and makes you form questions in your head that keep you going.
@verity_amo
@verity_amo 5 жыл бұрын
I believe there were clues, actually. Like what others are saying, it feels like you watched a different webseries. In all honesty, I could probably say a lot more as well, but I'd just be repeating what others are saying over and over again. Sound familiar?
@spynae
@spynae 5 жыл бұрын
Also like. I think another thing that people might or might not be realizing about the amount of time it takes for uploads to get out, is that our dude is programming a game from scratch. Any time there's a need to put in a feature that hasn't been showcased before, he needs to program it in, then test it, and test it, and test it, and make sure it won't bug out during capture. This isn't like regular acting where if a take goes bad, you can just tell the actors what's going wrong and have it fixed in the amount of screentime the take requires.
@TheDapperDragon
@TheDapperDragon 5 жыл бұрын
Except it is. In fact, it's easier. You can literally take out that section of code and redo it a thousand times, tweaking every single variable at your whim as many times as you want, every capture. There's no reason it should be this slowly done with this much 'nothing.'
@spynae
@spynae 5 жыл бұрын
Found the person who's never had to compile anything in their lives.
@kapricot
@kapricot 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda bummed this video spent more time complaining than actually analyzing and discussing all of the information we got in recent uploads. I dont want those complaints to stand as the opinions of the community as a whole when many of us are happy with the pacing and delivery.
@MrCrow05
@MrCrow05 5 жыл бұрын
Guess I'll just have to wait for Nightmare Masterclass to do a video on Petscop with actual info.
@GolfhausYT
@GolfhausYT 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, at least Night Mind didn't suggest that Petscop was promoting a socialist agenda.
@MrCrow05
@MrCrow05 5 жыл бұрын
@@GolfhausYT because he didnt suggest anything at all lol
@henry2ish
@henry2ish 5 жыл бұрын
god i used to love night mind's stuff on alan resnick because he did a good job finding patterns and connections and opening up catalysts for interpretation and discussion. nowadays he just skims over whatever horror project comes his way, makes very surface-level observations in an attempt to be "objective," and treats himself like the authority of Online Horror Media.
@MrCrow05
@MrCrow05 5 жыл бұрын
@@henry2ish I just got a very dismissive vibe from this video and I found it off-putting.
@BackwardsPancake
@BackwardsPancake 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrCrow05 My best guess is, he did not actually want to make this video, but felt pressured due to massive interest generated by the upload spike. NM's best work is usually him analyzing completed or self-contained works where there is an actual picture to put together. Petscop's nowhere near ready for that yet.
@Noelciaaa
@Noelciaaa 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're too obsessed with "solving the puzzle" to realise Petscop isn't about that the slightest. It's about how the process of attempting to solve it, finding new pieces is simply unnerving, to the audience, to Paul and to the audience again because of Paul's reaction or LACK thereof that's really been making me uneasy since it feels like he's dead... I get being a highly logical person since I'm one, but when it comes to some media it's just better to observe and experience the whole process of the story unfolding, not just waiting for the end, the final conclusion. I honestly doubt we'll ever get a 100% clear picture of the "plot" of Petscop even after the series is concluded, it's just not that type of thing. Then again, I might just come from a different background since I've never been much of a fan of ARGs, creepypasta etc since they've simply failed to engage me due to their straightforward nature. Because they're about what you're after - the solution. And that's not it to me. It's always that whatever our minds imagine is ten times scarier than what we can see, and the art of series like Petscop is provoking our minds to think these thoughts. To really stop caring all that much about being a detective and instead, delve into the feelings it invokes along the way... Really, the way these findings are completely non-chronological should've clued you as to what kind of series it is. Non-linear, completely, absolutely. I was in absolute awe with the findings during this Easter, the sheer amount of names on the logs truly chilled me, how many people were playing that game? How many more differences did the things they see have from what Paul has seen? Because that's what's exactly been shown there. Also I wish to add to my argument what most people in the comments have been saying: there were actually lots of concrete clues in this series. It would honestly be pretty hard to list them all just like that. Ehhh... so overall.... I'm really really disappointed in this video.
@divinevito3087
@divinevito3087 5 жыл бұрын
Is this really the same guy who made that wonderful DHMIS video? Years have not been nice to him, apparently.
@Galaxy613
@Galaxy613 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for spoopy stories. Left with a renewed sense of self-worth as a creator to create at my own pace without shaming myself to "be better" and "make more, faster"
@DeathsFlagShip
@DeathsFlagShip 5 жыл бұрын
I can see why he didn't want to rush into this. This video felt more like cliffnotes than a discussion or explanation.
@sillysurgeon
@sillysurgeon 5 жыл бұрын
I really don't think you poked a bear, I think petscop was gonna update regardless of if you had mentioned it in a tweet or not
@thebradzone3922
@thebradzone3922 5 жыл бұрын
oof okay ive got some thoughts on this one nick first of all, its gotta be said: its not a bad webseries just because you cant instantly unravel the narrative within a single night of research. acting like the classic marble hornets format is the end-all-be-all of ARG-like series is frankly narrowminded, and kind of verging on arrogance when one considers your “how to make a webseries” videos. also on that note... dude, we love you, but everybody had been expecting the easter uploads for a while before you “poked the bear”. not every webseries will directly interact with you like jack torrence. thats okay. just. give yourself a quick reality check man like i said, i usually love your videos, but it feels like you were so concerned with releasing a vid because of demand that you didnt put in the level of passion and respect that hooked a lot of us to your analysis videos. and then to end the thing annoyed at the pacing feels kind of irreverent to the source material, and just general bad form i guess. anyway, despite all this, thank you for uploading and i hope to see you back at your best in the near future. keep doing what you love dude
@CalibanL
@CalibanL 5 жыл бұрын
Also, the whole "I didn't have enough to work with" reads like his view as a creator instead of a viewer of Petscop. There's a difference to what is satisfying to an audience and the amount a content creator would need to make a video. I think he's acting like the two are the same. MH got slow sometimes, but it was fine because he was watching it and got to make videos later, with conclusions easier to give. He enjoyed it like a viewer. Petscop is too in progress and Nick watched it like a content creator. I'm fine with him hating it but I'm really disappointed in how I think this particular critique played out.
@TrumpCardMAGA
@TrumpCardMAGA 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think the 300 people that liked this post actually have enough patience to read that much text. He literally talks about they love to post on holidays and how he's ate a ton of crow on other ideas he's been wrong about. It's theories I honestly don't get the impression he's bragging.
@salmon_wine
@salmon_wine 5 жыл бұрын
@@TrumpCardMAGA "I honestly don't think the 300 people that liked your comment read all that text" Buddy, that's called "projecting." Just because you didn't want to read it all doesn't mean everyone else doesn't... If you go to r/Petscop for even ten minutes (which would mean you did more research into petscop than Nick), I would challenge you to find a single a fan theory or idea that takes less than 2 full paragraphs to describe. Nick tried to take credit for Petscop uploading in the first two minutes of this video. I dare you to try to give me evidence as to the contrary. I don't understand how you can't feel the snide manner which he says that... He says: "Don't poke the bear, or it'll bite"... And then lists the four series that he feels HE kicked back into life, not fans or other creators, but talks about it like it's in general... That's egocentric as hell
@irrisorie7
@irrisorie7 5 жыл бұрын
agree entirely on everything. it was irritating to me that nick was critiquing something that isn't even done, and basically saying it's bad because there isn't enough for him to make a video about. that's too bad i guess? wait until it's done and then make a video?? eh, it was just kinda.... eh.
@sambeckettcat
@sambeckettcat 5 жыл бұрын
WalrusEternal 1) Nick didn’t say the series was bad, in fact he said multiple times that he thinks it’s a great series and an achievement. He was merely critiquing the continuous vagueness of the episodes, which is fine if you disagree. 2) he wasn’t literally taking credit, he was making a joke about how often the coincidence would happen about him commenting on how long it’s been since an upload and the series in question then uploading. I highly doubt he legit believes anybody reacted to him except for Jack Torrence.
@WakeUpThePresident
@WakeUpThePresident 5 жыл бұрын
In Petscop the creators aren't going to be the feeding hand. You have to first find the food and then eat it by yourself. That's why I like it so much, it's all about the mystery and being left in the dark
@GameIsMyOxygen
@GameIsMyOxygen Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Petscop isn't your run of the mill mystery story that strives to feed you with entertainment. If you want it you gotta earn it by yourself. Theres work involved even on the viewer's part. Thats why its awesome. The loose ends allow various interpretations that are equally plausible and makes it a great area for discussion.
@WakeUpThePresident
@WakeUpThePresident Жыл бұрын
@@GameIsMyOxygen Yes, exactly. That's why I love ARGs so much, it's not just a show you mindlessly consume and move on to the next one, it's a freaking puzzle.
@Jifffen
@Jifffen 5 жыл бұрын
Man Nightmind has really fallen off since the Jack Torrance videos.
@evandood8697
@evandood8697 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, does he actually think that he is able to manipulate Petscop's updates? I feel like this channel has become very cocky and overestimates the amount of power they have over these ARGs. It sometimes feels like the channel attempts to insert itself into these series, believing it's involved.
@expendableindigo9639
@expendableindigo9639 5 жыл бұрын
Well, he was guessing based on the typical upload schedule of KZfaqrs, and he was right.
@sasak369
@sasak369 5 жыл бұрын
@@expendableindigo9639 he was sort of talking about it though like his talking about it had something to do with it, which, seeing how petscop really doesn't interact with the audience, is quite dubious.
@luvlols4462
@luvlols4462 2 жыл бұрын
The first few episodes are pretty good. Early in Paul says that the game has a living presence inside of it. Then he begins descending into madness. It's a great premise. Is the game haunted or is Paul just crazy? Then it turns out that.. it's neither? The game is just a freaky Christmas gift meant to act as a family album and train AI.
@wendillon92
@wendillon92 4 жыл бұрын
For those dissatisfied with this analysis, Nightmare Masterclass has a series where he analyses each episode and goes more into the symbolism that wasn't even touched on here.
@unduloid
@unduloid 6 ай бұрын
Actually, Nightmare Masterclass just makes stuff up most of the time since he has absolutely no idea what is going on either. Nobody does. Petscop is a study in how much you can string along an audience with pure nonsense. Quite a bit, as it turns out.
@dansnell5774
@dansnell5774 5 жыл бұрын
>when game theory makes a better video on an arg then you do BIG OOF
@poochillipickles8525
@poochillipickles8525 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao ikr
@touhoublue9692
@touhoublue9692 5 жыл бұрын
A LOT of the questions you asked were easily answerable
@davidabest7195
@davidabest7195 4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@zubbys
@zubbys 3 жыл бұрын
David Abest Yes
@spleens4200
@spleens4200 3 жыл бұрын
Answers then, please?
@unduloid
@unduloid Жыл бұрын
@@spleens4200 Two years have passed, and still no answers.
@spleens4200
@spleens4200 Жыл бұрын
@@unduloid yep
@SamanthaPortUkulele
@SamanthaPortUkulele 5 жыл бұрын
They had been planning to update on Easter long before you "called them out", Nick. I love you, but please don't try to take credit for "poking the bear" into updating.
@itsolie
@itsolie 5 жыл бұрын
the way he said it as well. it made him sound so entitled and that he beloved it was just for him.
@SamanthaPortUkulele
@SamanthaPortUkulele 5 жыл бұрын
@@itsolie Yuuuup. It makes me sad because I've followed him from very early on and I never expected him to develop an ego like this. Jesus. Who does he think he is?
@raccmaverick3619
@raccmaverick3619 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was discusting
@conflictt3224
@conflictt3224 5 жыл бұрын
@@SamanthaPortUkulele Night Mind is presented from the point of view of the character Nick Nocturn, not Nick the behind-the-screen creator. Hes made this clear through Twitter and Tumblr. The played-up ego and paranormal abilities are all part of that (See: being wanted by the Foundation from SCP and knowing old magic in the jack Torrance cleansing videos). People need to clue into that, cause its causing people to be really salty.
@SamanthaPortUkulele
@SamanthaPortUkulele 5 жыл бұрын
@@conflictt3224 He needs to make that clearer within the channel itself, then. Not everyone has the time to follow his every tweet or whatever. If you don't, this just comes off like a legitimate egotistical asshole with shit like this. It doesn't seem fake or sarcastic at all, it seems like he genuinely believes he is responsible for Petscop finally updating.
@waxfigurefamous9189
@waxfigurefamous9189 3 жыл бұрын
Did he not even want to put out a completion video on Petscop when it wrapped? Finished series are pretty up his alley and he could have some valuable insight. That being said, Nightmare Masterclass has a much more in-depth series on Petscop where he does legitimate and thorough research that takes the themes into account and doesn't treat it like a failed ARG. Go watch that, Nightmare Masterclass needs way more love than he gets.
@alizzie46
@alizzie46 5 жыл бұрын
It's a linear consequential story because it's not an ARG. It's a story in video game format, reminiscent of a let's play format with a creepy pasta. I think the pacing, the upload schedule, and the story reveal is all deliberate and ingenious. I feel like this slow process actually works for this story. Perhaps your expectations is to be able to solve the story before it it ends, but I personally want to unfold this on their own terms. Sorry but I have to respectfully have to disagree with this video, but it's ok. I will personally be awaiting the next chapter of this story.
@lushtakular4533
@lushtakular4533 5 жыл бұрын
Nick: [Doesn't bring up several points of evidence including REBIRTHING and a bunch of shit you can find out if you spend five minutes on r/petscop] Also Nick:"There's just not much to piece together"
@selty
@selty 3 жыл бұрын
IDK about him but when I analyse esoteric shit, I like to first make my own conclusions and then read stuff after I have a firm idea. IDK if he's like that but sometimes reading a ton of theories messes with your own essay structure.
@deadchannel5328
@deadchannel5328 5 жыл бұрын
Is their a reason why you keep repeating the exact same sentences over and over again? I think I was okay with hearing about the windmill disappearing once, but you just won't stop repeating it
@mohawklogan
@mohawklogan 5 жыл бұрын
He brought up Petscop "not having any new evidence in each new video" Like half a dozen fucking times, and then ranted about it at the end. I got your opinion on the first one thanks. Are you not proofreading your scripts? Do you even have a script?
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@mohawklogan more watch time. He wants to have his 40 minute video for revenue but I guess didn't feel like putting in the actual work for it, so we get filler and weird narcicistic delusions.
@Laekith
@Laekith 5 жыл бұрын
Do you HAVE to re-read the entire notes every time?
@Sigismund697
@Sigismund697 5 жыл бұрын
With how convoluted and bread crumpy the story is I don't blame him
@theguyyouhate
@theguyyouhate 4 жыл бұрын
i enjoy it. it alows me to do other stuff whille i enjoy nicks content. maybe you should find creators more to your likeing than complain about someone not making exactly what you want?
@johnfranklin42
@johnfranklin42 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think this series pacing on answers is fine, at least binge viewing the videos. If it got incredibly specific and clear, the series would lose the feeling of the uncanny that it has going for it. What I deeply love about this series having watched it to catch up with this video is the sense that the game never becomes obviously haunted by a ghost, or directly responds to Paul in a non prerecorded way. Everything that happens is always just within the realms of possibility of what is programmable. Of course, it’s possible that I’m just undergoing the Steven Universe effect and am not yet annoyed with the pacing because I haven’t had to wait extended periods for new uploads yet.
@heckinborkk
@heckinborkk 5 жыл бұрын
It feels like forever since I've watched a night mind video - but thats because I haven't read house of leaves :'o
@matthueloose7172
@matthueloose7172 5 жыл бұрын
High Voltage Thank you for not robbing yourself of that experience by watching the vids instead! You’ve got a strong will!
@daniellejohnson333
@daniellejohnson333 5 жыл бұрын
Saaammee I’m sooo excited for a new video that I can watch
@MagicalHatStudios
@MagicalHatStudios 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't recommend House of Leaves to any kind of trauma victim, otherwise what are you waiting for?
@heckinborkk
@heckinborkk 5 жыл бұрын
@@MagicalHatStudios I haven't really experienced 'trauma' - just a couple of events that shook me up. I'm waiting for the chance to actually get the book cos there's none in my area and I don't really want to pay $50 for a book
@daniellejohnson333
@daniellejohnson333 5 жыл бұрын
MagicalHatStudios I have a traumatic experiences so I just was going to sit that one out
@melopunk
@melopunk 5 жыл бұрын
About the long distance releases, you can't ask more from Petscop. Because the dates of the events are so important, and you can argue about whether it's a good choice or not, but you can't deny it's original and it makes it feel like it's getting frozen in time. Also, since the major Petscop events range from 1997 to 2000, and the channel is already 2 years old, we can expect the whole thing to be over next year at worst. Nothing sure but I think there's a high chance. Also, remember Petscop it's not ar ARG, it doesn't "need" us to do anything, it's a story that someone wants to show to the world and it's gonna wait all the time it takes to do so.
@Mathee
@Mathee 5 жыл бұрын
I had actually expected Petscop to update around Easter; the channel pic was replaced with an Easter egg, and from previous events, where an empty and dark pic meant no uploads were on their way, the changed seemed to indicate that updates were on their way, as well as a clue to when we would get them. I wasn't expecting five videos though.
@Judes6647
@Judes6647 5 жыл бұрын
this was really a terrible investigation. you just talk about the bare bones canon material that the easter update has given us that every other video essayer has pointed out by now and then you spend the last ten minutes of the video griping about how you're not being entertained enough. where are your own conclusions? where's the investigation?? you can't say that there's not enough information to approach it with confidence when you don't even try to piece what you're given together into a narrative, even if it could be wrong. that's the fun of petscop! there are so many ways it invites you to be active and make your own story from the info it gives you.
@XCATX25
@XCATX25 5 жыл бұрын
Ye, I agree, and apparently many people too. Many of the comments are about how disappointed people are with this video, and the others are pyrocinical jokes
@dysonlaz
@dysonlaz 5 жыл бұрын
NM I like you stuff but I felt with this video and the last Petscop one that you had your ARG hat on way too tight. Petscop is more about intertwining themes than clues with a cut and dry solution. I feel like you were looking at it so hard and so precisely that you ironically missed a great deal.
@MetalDMv1010
@MetalDMv1010 5 жыл бұрын
this video was super disappointing with the constant repeating, the "critique" at the end, and the clear lack of research that went into this...
@ACTNRPLY
@ACTNRPLY 5 жыл бұрын
MetalDC agreed. Real sloppy effort.
@damienthonk1506
@damienthonk1506 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, a lot of people would be upset if he didn't make a video on this series he clearly dislikes. He pretty much sealed his fate by ever mentioning Petscop in the first place.
@peazeralus
@peazeralus 5 жыл бұрын
Not an ARG. It's just a slow~burn puzzle.
@MCOmegaX123
@MCOmegaX123 5 жыл бұрын
Nick: "I'm not going to fault Petscop for its upload schedule." Also Nick: "It shouldn't be so long between episodes, why did it take two years to get this far?" Love your content, but sometimes it seems like you're getting a wee bit too big for your britches as it were. On a lighter note: New theory on Rainer. There was an "Uncle Daniel" mentioned in the white text during the "retrace your steps" sequence, and also a Daniel mentioned as having something to do with Petscop. Rainer and Daniel are very close to each other in spelling (swap the N and I, replace the D and L with R's). Clue/lead?
@conflictt3224
@conflictt3224 5 жыл бұрын
His complaint is mostly a lack of substance in each episode, not really that they are so slow. The fact that they are so slow coupled with the lack of substance from his point of view just adds on top of things. He could have covered some of it better though and like you already saw above he did repeat a lot. Not his best episode but I feel like hes just burned out from all the webseries that he would normally tackle being on seemingly endless hiatuses, then finally getting a burst of activity that doesnt really add a ton he can pin down.
@soupieratalt
@soupieratalt 5 жыл бұрын
I guess I was hoping this would end up as a 2 parter, because we got so much info to sift through, but all I can say is Im... kinda disappointed. If anything NightMind is the kind of person to go crazy looking into things, but here it felt rushed? Falling flat? At the very least I expected the intricacies to be prodded at more, and you of all people I expected to go digging into who u/paleskowitz is, and taking the connections of toneths description, the passage about Michael A telling his brother about not being able to be found because only Michael B exists now, "Daniel's Game," Rainer, Newmaker and how they are the same person with an indepth of supporting evidence... but this felt unenthusiastic.. for a moment I wondered if you even enjoyed making this? If you even enjoy making content anymore? I'm not saying you have to like Petscop.. I'm saying you should enjoy the content you're creating and it doesnt sound like you enjoyed this...
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 5 жыл бұрын
It felt more like he saw the new info and wanted to get credit for them uploading. It's clear he thinks any story or ARG that isn't the ones he likes is shit.
@jorgecaimanque6951
@jorgecaimanque6951 5 жыл бұрын
He didnt even research and said that we dont know how the phonetic language works when it has been decoded since when? Around october past year?
@renatobonito1521
@renatobonito1521 5 жыл бұрын
Totally different perspectives, I'm loving it so far. The slow pace is very enjoyable for me as it makes it more ominous and mistérios, it feels more real to me. It actually feels like he is just wandering around and randomly finding the clues just like most people would in a very big place with very little things, but to each their own, your video is still perfect dude.
@theguywithoutafoot
@theguywithoutafoot 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vidoes dude, but I have to disagree with you on the pacing of the story. But I guess that's down to personal preference.
@TheCaboose568
@TheCaboose568 5 жыл бұрын
The censors have a point. Once you see them, you're family. For them to not be censored might be something, like maybe there's a new channel owner.
@kronosdorma
@kronosdorma 5 жыл бұрын
Your ego knows no bounds does it.
@DailyMoFo1
@DailyMoFo1 5 жыл бұрын
Kronos Dorma ego is essential for physicality, and the lesser emotions of the all, to have this human experience, and to move other humans’ emotions with your creations. For example, I’m replying because of my ego, being compelled to type this. Lol. Ignore me..
@kronosdorma
@kronosdorma 5 жыл бұрын
DailyMoFo1 I’m glad you paid attention to high school English.
@sillysurgeon
@sillysurgeon 5 жыл бұрын
yupp
@HollowHouse3
@HollowHouse3 5 жыл бұрын
I'm too lazy to screencap Daily's response for r/iamverysmart, someone else please do it.
@goob8040
@goob8040 5 жыл бұрын
Logan Chitwood dont worry I got you fam
@VicAcid77
@VicAcid77 5 жыл бұрын
The only bears you poke are the ones at furry conventions.
@dansnell5774
@dansnell5774 5 жыл бұрын
You really didn't have to do it to 'em like that. Damn, bruh.
@eddaabdin1209
@eddaabdin1209 5 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhh
@damienthonk1506
@damienthonk1506 5 жыл бұрын
I must say, that was pretty damn lame.
@hoodspawn9073
@hoodspawn9073 5 жыл бұрын
Ouch. This felt like watching those “this is how you don’t play” about the game grumps where Arin ignores all the dialogue and hints the game gives him, then spends the whole play through complaining about things the game made obvious to anyone paying half attention. Petscop is a let’s play, we’re watching the character’s thought process play out, which is integral because it gives us moments like Marvin writing “did you di” before he changes it to “did you find lina”. You can’t compare it to MH which is a documentation of a bizarre experience, Hell, I wouldn’t compare any two webseries to each other! That’s something I’ve never liked you doing because I felt like you’d loose many points that way, and this is the prime example of that. Petscop isn’t an ARG because there’s no viewer input, it isn’t a game for us to play and interact with, it’s a webseries. Not everything that appears online will fit the mold of a previous series because they’re all made by different people with different capabilities and limitations and different stories that they want to tell or experiences they want to make, and it all being on the Internet strips away many restrictions they’d have with that. They can do anything they want. Personally I love and adore Petscop, but I’ve only reached this point after a year and a half of following it since the beginning, and these new updates aren’t anything like you described. It all made sense. Maybe “summarizing what happens in each upload and shrugging your shoulders” would’ve made you realize more and more what’s going on with time, and you’d be able to sit on it. Y’know, like with a real video game.
@artyom1949
@artyom1949 5 жыл бұрын
Normally a huge fan of your uploads but I think you dropped the ball here. Normally you take a significant amount of time to analyze this type of content, but its barely been a week and you are already posting a video on it. I don't know why your entire fan base is turning on you but this video isn't up to your usual standards. If you don't like this series you shouldn't feel pressured to cover it, especially if you aren't going to give it the time it deserves. Like others have said it might be best to stick to completed content or shorter series.
@pimpurcabbges7437
@pimpurcabbges7437 5 жыл бұрын
Did he ask his viewers if he they wanted an analysis? If he didn’t want to do it he could’ve said it earlier after his last take on this series. It just gets people’s hopes up. It also would’ve at least removed pressure of satisfying his audience or anyone from the petscop community
@jessielefey
@jessielefey 5 жыл бұрын
I love Petscop, because yeah... like you said. It's not an ARG. It's a story about an ARG. The story isn't "what is this video game telling us" it's "this person's experience trying to figure out what that video game is trying to tell them". I'm way more invested in the OP's emotional journey than the meta-narrative of the game. The game isn't the plot, it's lore; we *cannot* figure it out on our own because we lack the lived context of our protagonist and he only tells us a fraction of what he's thinking. Figuring out lore is fun, but is icing not the cake. But I absolutely respect that that's not your cup of tea. Not every project will be for every one and that's okay.
@jessielefey
@jessielefey 5 жыл бұрын
Also why so many expressions use food as metaphor? Am I just hungry?
@zero132132
@zero132132 5 жыл бұрын
I knew that Care was kidnapped just based on that damned calendar. The pattern was every other week, then weekends, then everything for several months. The first part is consistent with a divorce, and most kids are abducted by one of their parents when settlement terms become disagreeable to them.
@suiwei2813
@suiwei2813 5 жыл бұрын
This whole video summarizes why I haven’t enjoyed your content for years.
@kewlbot
@kewlbot 5 жыл бұрын
I think this really kind of has to be paced this way? it's structured like a let's play, and sometimes nothing really happens in episodes of a let's play.
@ana-dv7jb
@ana-dv7jb 5 жыл бұрын
You seriously need to stop pretending that all arg web series needs to follow your crazy specific rules.
@EhrenCG
@EhrenCG 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like he didn't see the sign, and didn't open up his eyes.
@b.collins2656
@b.collins2656 5 жыл бұрын
so he shoots down petscop, a legitimately original and interesting series, and praises hi im mary mary, which is a carbon copy of every entry-level arg, just because the second follows his guidelines on what determines something to be good? HMMMMMMMMMM
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 5 жыл бұрын
@@EhrenCG lmao.
@Emma88178
@Emma88178 5 жыл бұрын
Brandy Akimova Well..... although I agree that Petscop is awesome, Hi I’m Mary Mary is also awesome. It’s not a carbon copy and is quite original and entertaining itself.
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@b.collins2656 better yet, he praises the crypt TV stuff, which is just cliches and jump scares.
@Wieprzek
@Wieprzek 5 жыл бұрын
Infomation in this video could be condensed into 10 minutes man. You read whole messages over and over, slowly.
@6steeven3
@6steeven3 5 жыл бұрын
Wieprzek doesn’t even feel like he watched this vid after editing it.
@shitocodone8940
@shitocodone8940 5 жыл бұрын
Bro literally everyone knew petscop was gonna update on Easter.
@dylanmonstrum1538
@dylanmonstrum1538 5 жыл бұрын
You know Nicks huge ego is super pissed off that everyone is talking about pyrocynical
@alexthegs2624
@alexthegs2624 5 жыл бұрын
Night mind : releases petscop 2 Pyrocynical : wait, that's illegal
@petisparkus555
@petisparkus555 5 жыл бұрын
AWW, I JUST COMMENTED THAT JOKE.
@alexthegs2624
@alexthegs2624 5 жыл бұрын
@@redback3 what?
@alexthegs2624
@alexthegs2624 5 жыл бұрын
@@redback3 lmao I'm talking about night mind's second episode about petscop not petscop itself I think it was pretty obvious from my comment
@alexthegs2624
@alexthegs2624 5 жыл бұрын
@@redback3 oh lol sorry then
@sachikawaii
@sachikawaii 5 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoy the fact that petscop uploads so infrequently. It creates suspense for me and makes me excited to see a new episode rather than just having it forcefed to me all at once. I like having the time to theorise and be proven wrong or proven right and then be given more time to theorise
@Sam-fv7ju
@Sam-fv7ju 5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I thought the uploads were nice. The pacing isn’t any different than any other ARG. Jack Torrance literally didn’t upload for forever and then started again. Same with EMH this year AND Tribe Twelve. I figured you of all people would be accepting of irregular uploads. Do you just not like this one? It’s okay to not like it, but at least give people the kind of content they expect from you. We love your stuff man, but this one just. Isn’t it.
@VuldEdone
@VuldEdone 3 жыл бұрын
With Sockmuppet preparing more Petscop-related videos, I've taken to rewatch yours. And I'm still amused at how you were the only one calling out Petscop's direction -- with even me questioning your take -- and getting flak for it when it turned out you were dead right. You were discussing Unfiction as much as you were discussing Petscop.
@tylociraptor8131
@tylociraptor8131 5 жыл бұрын
Super disappointing. I've been a fan of your content since the start, and yet I find myself finally wondering if I should bother staying subscribed. The issue of the ignorance of the themes and various plot points of Petscop that we've had even BEFORE the Easter update aside... The arrogance. You didn't poke the bear, Nick. We all had expected an Easter update because of the updates to the Petscop page literally featuring an EASTER egg, and talking about an Easter egg hunt. And with all this arrogance like you're the smartest guy in the room, you're ignoring tons of things - Daniel's game. Rainer. Daniel, Michael Hammond's brother, is Rainer. Gara. Lina. Marvin has always been considered, at the very least, to be a representation or recording of a real person, Marvin. The husband. C'mon, dude.
@HollowHouse3
@HollowHouse3 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have to agree with you, NM has gotten really weirdly self-important over the last couple of years, as if all of these things are only happening because he's here to talk about them. It's hard not to cringe at that 'Wow guys I totally made this massive update happen' attitude when anyone who's been paying attention could see the Easter update coming a mile away.
@sr212787
@sr212787 5 жыл бұрын
It's a joke, not a Dick. Don't take it so hard.
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, while I 100% disagree with Nick's criticisms, this video wasn't THAT bad. Just a swing and a miss, we all have those sometimes.
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@sr212787 even the defensive fanboys are running out of energy at this point. So nick is a comedian now? Maybe he should make people laugh then, or at least be mildly entertaining. This is just embarrassing.
@DriscolDevil
@DriscolDevil 5 жыл бұрын
@@KaiserMattTygore927 He seems to be "missing" consistantly for over a year now.
@Wishes_for_Fishes
@Wishes_for_Fishes 5 жыл бұрын
12:55 Actually several games back then had the ability to record gameplay. Doom is the most notable, it records the players button inputs and can play them back as a demo. Most games that have a demo feature (like when you leave the game on the title screen and some recorded gameplay kicks on) uses a similar, if not the same, method. So if this is a copy meant for developers, its very possible and believable that they could have a demo feature.
@toxik1769
@toxik1769 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, it's just that Petscop is not an ARG, it's a Webseries
@ari-dynamicarchive
@ari-dynamicarchive 5 жыл бұрын
The feels when MatPat covers Night Mind subject matter better than Night Mind, lol.
@bubbastevegarcia2459
@bubbastevegarcia2459 5 жыл бұрын
You could learn a thing or two from my man *Nightmare Masterclass*
@foxar9606
@foxar9606 5 жыл бұрын
I loved Night Mind's videos, but honestly the last one I truly enjoyed was Lasagna Cat, ever since that it's been some shitty livestreams noone cares about, some get-togethers with other people/youtuber or whatever. I think ever since Jack Torrance and him making 'how to make an arg' shit really blasted his ego into stratosphere, and I myself am switching to Masterclass, for a good and effortfull analysis of something as a focus instead of some epic editing and ego tripping.
@misticspear
@misticspear 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah he is really good. Doesn't feel like he is trying to hard to be spooky.
@bubbastevegarcia2459
@bubbastevegarcia2459 5 жыл бұрын
@@misticspear he comes to drop the knowledge not the spooks!
@GiftedContractor
@GiftedContractor 5 жыл бұрын
...So you don't like Petscop anymore. Just saying you're not going to cover them because you don't like the series and you don't feel like you have anything to add would have been better than this half assed video, especially for those of us who've been respectfully ignoring your House of Leaves videos because you insisted we not watch them if we weren't able to read the book. You ignored..most of the community's hard work. You ignored most of the inspirations and connections. Some of which were REALLY obvious (come on, you're going to pretend Candace Newmaker isn't even worth bringing up?). And I know you're more more in depth than this because I have been enthusiastically recommending your channel to everyone I know. You're the reason Marble Hornets wasn't a jumble of cryptic nonsense to me - I don't think you quite remember how weird and complicated single uploads of marble hornets were if you think it was more understandable than Petscop on a video-to-video basis. You're the reason I was able to follow everymanHYBRID without giving up in disgust. But this felt rushed, like you did it because you felt like you had to and wanted to skirt by on the bare minimum of work. No upload on Petscop would have been better than this.
@MCOmegaX123
@MCOmegaX123 5 жыл бұрын
Candice Newmaker has been confirmed as a false lead already, long ago. Other than still holding on to that angle, I agree fully with the rest of your post, though.
@salmon_wine
@salmon_wine 5 жыл бұрын
@@MCOmegaX123 *snap* footnote: the Newmaker connection should not be dismissed as a "false lead," the newmaker reference was thematic allusion to get everyone in the mindset for the later episodes (~Episode 12 and onwards) where Rebirth becomes the core theme of the series. While the candace story has no LITERAL ties to petscop, it has plenty of figurative/thematic ties
@GiftedContractor
@GiftedContractor 5 жыл бұрын
@@MCOmegaX123 Eon basically gave my response. It's an obvious theme or reference material, the way night mind point out dr.seuess stories as references. Or how house of leaves is reference material for everymanHYBRID. Petscop is unusual because it used a real event as reference material, but functionally it's no different or less important to the story than a referenced novel.
@cherrycola1144
@cherrycola1144 5 жыл бұрын
I had unsubscribed from NM for a while because his content was a little stagnant and his persona outside the videos was somewhat annoying. Coming back today and this being the first video I’ve seen, the dip in quality from classics like Marble Hornets and This House Has People In It is noticeable
@omnibusprimephd7914
@omnibusprimephd7914 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this video was absolutely maddening. It felt like parts of the video kept playing over and over again, but the lines were spoken slightly different.
Diminish: A Grave Game for One Player
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