Shane Dawson’s Downfall & Return is worse than we thought… the lies everyone missed

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@vegasneon 2 жыл бұрын

I'm 62 so I have to laugh when a person younger than me says "It was a different time", from the time I was born it was never ok to treat the races, sexes or religions as different.

@aloeleaf 2 жыл бұрын

@Lisbeth and sexist

@issavirgo6079 2 жыл бұрын

Im 30 And My Mom Was Born During Segregation....The "Different" Time Wasn't Too Far Back

@MorwenMcGregor 2 жыл бұрын

Came here to post same. I was born in the '60s and was taught that these things were never acceptable. So for someone to sit here and say that in 2009 it was?? No. It never was. Stop justifying it.

@laurenvega-cruz4718 2 жыл бұрын

@@MorwenMcGregor yes, I thought racism was on its way out in the 80s....like how is it still happening?

@xiabluecheng 2 жыл бұрын

"It was a different timeeee" bro my grandparents say it's not okay when THEY were growing up. The fuck🤣

@sheltertwo7957 2 жыл бұрын

“It connected with people!” Racists, Shane. It connected with racists.

@jaclynfairhead5848 2 жыл бұрын

"I know I took a big dump on this cake, but the parts without poop on them are good! Why throw the whole cake away????"

@xonlyy0u 2 жыл бұрын

For real, HOWWW is that his justification my god

@thejaimebush 2 жыл бұрын

Bingo!!! 🙄🤡

@Onyxxu20 2 жыл бұрын

Racists and edgy teenagers who think they're funny for going against the grain

@jessicajane7296 2 жыл бұрын

And paedophiles. Don’t forget the paedophiles.

@julienotsmith7068 Жыл бұрын

"It was a different time then." As an old fart, let me assure everyone that enlightened people knew this stuff was racist and not to be done back in the SEVENTIES. I was there. It was racism then, too.

@blazedonut710 5 ай бұрын

Swoops fan base is seriously so cool 🤍

@PeacefulAutistic 5 ай бұрын

Right! My mom said Fred Sanford made her uncomfortable with the way he spoke so comfortably saying all the racist stuff.

@JustMeELC 16 күн бұрын

I was there too & you are 100% correct!

@roxannecote-russell4649 2 жыл бұрын

Swoop quote of the decade : ''No one could cancel Ted Bundy... I guess the electric chair cancelled him.'' OMG QUEEN SWOOP !!! i love you

@tnsmom 2 жыл бұрын

Let’s not forget Shane’s mom joined in with some of his BS and encouraged him all the time!

@randomchica23 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU. I felt like I was the only one who remembers her literally standing there encouraging him to keep going and she also screamed the N word.......

@tnsmom 2 жыл бұрын

@@randomchica23 Same! She joined him on some of the inappropriate stuff on omegle too! Awful people.

@randomchica23 2 жыл бұрын

@@JNB520 1. this isn't about Jenna 2. We didn't and also that is one example of someone who did wrong, recognized it and corrected themselves.

@keisha_james 2 жыл бұрын

Where else would he learn it but at home 😭 racism is taught, absorbed

@Mrs.Self.Distruct 2 жыл бұрын

Also don't forget his Aunt being right there during a lot of the inappropriate and predatory sick behavior when he was filming with her own daughter (his underaged cousin).

@mickymcbryan4814 2 жыл бұрын

I really suggest not partnering with established titles again, SWOOP. The thing about Scotland is that it has a history of colonial buying like the with the British, but now that folks in the UK are more aware of the negative effects, they’re marketing to Americans. Established Titles is a corporation run out of Hong Kong that supports the rulership of the royal family over colonized Scottish land. The trees they plant in Scotland are actually strategically places to prevent Celtic-Scottish people from claiming or resettling traditional land that was stolen by rebranding it as protected by American land interest and forested areas. The project that inspired this was actually when Israel did the same thing in Palestine, collecting donations to plant trees on traditional Palestinian land they had forcibly removed Palestinian people from so that the rightful caretakers of the land could not return. That isn’t even to mention that while this company is planting trees to act as the equivalent of a British flag, British companies have been mass deforest if spiritually significant forests and destroying spiritual landmarks for centuries and have not stopped. I know these issues are not things Americans are necessarily aware of but colonialism is a global problem that effects non-North American countries as well, so please be wary whenever you hear of these so called “charities” selling cheap land. It’s usually for these reasons.

@specializedchemicals6669 2 жыл бұрын

dang. this needs more likes so more people can see this.

@joli1320 2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, thank you for taking the time to educate us on this. I hope this comment acts as a boost so more people see this before they buy from the site.

@basementdwellercosplay 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering this, my family is Scottish so I know a bit more about Scottish history than most and this set off suspicion for me. No hate to swoop, not a lot know about Scottish traditions and it's history with Britain

@CheAshBri 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I figured. I clicked on the link just to read up on it and immediately felt like it was a horrible idea and it just contributed to colonialism. Not to mention you can’t even use the land, it’s for the sole purpose of having a title. It’s like when they try to sell stars to people but more damaging.

@camo.0w0 2 жыл бұрын

yes! I've been seeing how awful that brand is for some time, and I'd really appreciate if youtubers stopped partnering with them 😑

@Mankepootje 2 жыл бұрын

Shane is not a clown, he is the f**king circus

@Fallenlyrics218 6 ай бұрын

Holy $hit..that a whole ass circus!!!😂

@hollyrice1086 3 ай бұрын

that's why I love watching cause he is a whole ass circus and I enjoy the tea and drama

@nafisa.t13 2 ай бұрын

but.. but.. did you take that from Ace Attorney?

@flfb 9 ай бұрын

it's almost like "mistakes" are when you spill a glass of wine on the carpet, and "horrifying borderline federal crimes" are anything shane dawson did

@smallblueblondie880 2 жыл бұрын

Can we talk about how courteous it is of Swoop to censor all these kids faces, since I'm 1000% sure none of them want to be seen/associated with Shane and the focus isn't on them anyhow? I'm always impressed and so happy to see just how much Swoop cares about the victims of the people she speaks on. 💖

@renb6133 2 жыл бұрын

Swoop understands abuse, she’s been there, so, she’s highly sensitive in this regard. She’s so brave & real, I love her! I’m a new subscriber but am so glad, I stumbled across her channel. She’s says what, so many others, aren’t brave enough to say!

@yesterdayitrained Жыл бұрын

@@renb6133 She is an absolutely THE BEST.

@Vi_Vi_1 Жыл бұрын

I always appreciate that she blurs faces of children, and even adults who haven't consented to putting themselves out there--her respect for privacy and desire to protect others is really lovely

@alim.9801 Жыл бұрын

Whenever someone online blurs kids faces it makes me really happy

@JinxMarie1985 11 ай бұрын

I agree however I think the words like sexual abuse or abuse or the word rapists in silenced!! Use the words!!! Its really what happened. Why not use the actual words because for the victims of his actions I believe it should be told exactly what the f he did!!!

@erinbernard1402 2 жыл бұрын

"Accountability does not come with a guaranteed promise of forgiveness." LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

@sunny9439 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it bothered me so much when he’s like “I should’ve lost my career” because I was like no sh*t and it’s upsetting you won’t. It’s just so manipulative like “guys I know what I did was wrong” okay but you should still be punished for it.

@tamzinhinds6522 9 ай бұрын

If he was really being accountable to what he himself said was the right thing losing his career then he wouldn’t have come back to KZfaq he let his career stay dead and buried and if he’s not holding himself accountable he can’t be different just another thing he’s trying to brush away it’s a cycle of manipulation and abuse people think past the tone focus on the words please manipulators can sometimes play it of in a joking tone to give you a false sense of security but lure you back in that general cycle

@DevotedPlacebo 7 ай бұрын

RIGHT! And smaller, often BIPOC creators, get cancelled for waaaaay less than all of the atrocious things this man has done. He's just gross.

@artgirlerina1797 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad that some creators on here are still willing to call him out on these disgusting behaviors and actions he committed in the past. I hate the fact that people as soon as he started to make his “comeback“ they just immediately forgot about all the disgusting terrible things that he did not only to people of color but to minors as well and it is so upsetting and it makes me so angry. Period.

@chrisreynoldsartwork 4 ай бұрын

I've had multiple KZfaq channels deleted by KZfaq because I pointed out the hypocrisy and evil deeds of the government as they claimed "bullying" as the reason, yet these kinds of people can continue and monotize the channel. I made videos of pedophiles talking about pedophilia and grooming channels and KZfaq deleted the videos, gave me a strike but left the creators I pointed out alone. It's absolutely mind blowing!

@MummaQuan 2 жыл бұрын

I just ate half of a family sized bag of lays potato chips by myself… I don’t know who that person was. I hate that person.

@BlackDogsAndLadybugs 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, king! 💙 The accountability, this is why we love you!!! Keep your chin up!! 💙💙💙

@MummaQuan 2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackDogsAndLadybugs Queen, but thank you 😂 💜

@Scriptkitty-sd8dp 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@ReviewsAndMore9 2 жыл бұрын

You’ll hate even more when you step on the scale. That’s where you meet accountability.

@joelthefanboy3303 2 жыл бұрын

The person who ate those chips was in a, "dark place."

@helenlister7733 2 жыл бұрын

He literally kissed a child. He was going to meet a 14 year old child. Pedophiles do not change. And they definitely shouldn’t be forgiven. And saying it was a different time back then, I’ve known since I was a young child you don’t say the n word and I’m 35 now. We knew back then these things were wrong, people could just get away with it more

@sovietunion136 2 жыл бұрын

Okay but if you hate Shane you should definitely hate James Charles , he’s also a pedophile

@Justoneday777 2 жыл бұрын

It's so gross & embarrassed to me that I watched him when I was younger & didn't see the real kind of person shane is. And I still can't believe people support him especially if they heard of all the things he's done & said.

@Omni_Eclipsa 5 ай бұрын

Its not your fault you were just another victim of his

@kewlgurlrockz 2 жыл бұрын

What we need to remember is that Shane never disappeared after his "cancellation/controversy". He was always there and pushed the boundary of being away without actually being away from the public eye every time. The first was his story posts on his IG on his mercy followed by coming on Rylands and others IG. He then came many times on Rylands podcast and even was on camera. He came on multiple videos on Ryland channel. Then came on jefree channel followed by finally officially coming on his own KZfaq channel. So it was never that he totally disappeared off social media for the year and then came back on YT. He was always there creeping behind the shadows and slowly testing the waters. The first times when he came on Ig and rylands channels were met with so much more talk and attention than Shane's actual YT. He basically desensitized his coming back bec he was always back but just not on big channel. So it's extremely important to remember that Shane was never off the internet to reflect. He was always there just not on his YT

@EctoBabble 2 жыл бұрын

When he did the "We forgive quickly... how about you get to that" I had flashbacks to some abusers and got a chill up my spine. :)

@ReviewsAndMore9 2 жыл бұрын

Yes that is so disrespectful and trite. Oooh I despise him.

@xonlyy0u 2 жыл бұрын

Omg same

@geobrizuela 2 жыл бұрын

That’s dramatic and extra

@charlottemclean803 2 жыл бұрын

@@geobrizuela don’t invalidate their feelings

@tydahl2819 2 жыл бұрын

I had much the same knee-jerk response. Abusers love making you feel like YOU are the one preventing their growth and I'm sorry you've experienced that, friend

@1917yee 2 жыл бұрын

I was 18 in 2008. Trust and believe everyone knew blackface was wrong. Can't deal with children telling me this shit was ever okay....because even in the golden age of minstrel shows they damn well knew they were wrong.

@faithfm1 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah people got fired for doing the stuff he did back then so I'm not sure why they are saying it was acceptable back then

@princessbunny80085 Жыл бұрын

I was 8 n knew it was wrong dawg I’ve quite literally been more mature than him my whole life

@AshleesBathroom Жыл бұрын

I was 6 in 2008 and I knew that blackface was wrong.

@rachelann9362 Жыл бұрын

I was 8 in 1993, and I grew up with very racist neighbors (my parents were a bit too) and there was only 3 non-white people in my whole grade, and I STILL knew it was wrong. I remember watching some black and white movie where a Chinese character was played by a white man in dark makeup to look the stereotypical “yellow man”. the character was exaggerated to the point where it was comparable to the “Mammy” stereotype of POC women or black face characters in old movies. I remember getting annoyed that they couldn’t just cast an actual Chinese person to play a non-caricaturized version of the character.

@pickledragonrebel 11 ай бұрын

I was a teenager in the eighties and it was considered wrong at least to everyone I knew

@Crocady1 2 жыл бұрын

Don't be shocked at the actions of a sociopath. Be shocked that our society lets them get away with it.

@isthiscereallife 9 ай бұрын

Lol yikes, don't armchair diagnose random people with personality disorders. I doubt Shane was ever abused a day in his life to ever be applicable to the ASPD diagnosis

@RedHotMessResell 2 жыл бұрын

People like Shane really influenced my friends and I as young teenagers. It was like the “cool” thing to be into gross and shocking things. I even knew blackface was bad, and I still watched him. I guess back then I put Shane, South Park, a few comedians, and other crude tv shows and movies in the same category. Now obviously I look back and I realize how dumb I was. But most kids are dumb with their common sense. When someone online is so popular and they are normalizing blackface, younger people are gonna think it’s fine. That’s kinda how it is. But the world has changed a lot since then. And side note… I didn’t really listen to his podcast when he had it, and hearing some of those things for the first time recently was jarring.

@annme_87 2 жыл бұрын

Poor Lucas (Fred) imagine how he must have felt hitting that block button after Shane had to go and take their conversation to such a scary place. Thank goodness he was smart enough to stop contacting him.

@joli1320 2 жыл бұрын

Also imagine how he must have felt seeing Shane go on live tv to talk about the time he was predatory towards him, only for it to be passed off as a joke and the host laughing along with Shane. Like, holy shit, how did he not get dragged through the mud for admitting on live TV he sexted a minor? It's horrifying to think about just how much he got away with and how much got swept under the rug...

@Pindolene 2 жыл бұрын

@@joli1320 Legit, like why was it depicted as Lucas doing something wrong by blocking him?

@AliciaTheTroonSlayer Жыл бұрын

@@joli1320 well Logo needs to take accountability. Notice how LGBT programs seemed to promote Shane and this entire interview but I guess we can’t call them out because they’re a “marginalized community” chile 🤦🏿‍♀️

@tulip5210 Жыл бұрын

ok one thing I did not hear about was him SEXTING FRED??????

@AshleesBathroom Жыл бұрын

@@AliciaTheTroonSlayer As a member of the LGBTQ community, you can call out the programs that promoted him and his behaviour, but don't go on to say that ALL LGBTQ programs and people promoted him and his behaviour, because that isn't true. And don't make the main focus of the call out about how they are LGBTQ. Just call out that the programs supported predatory behaviour.

@ilovemusic2543 2 жыл бұрын

Shane Dawson, Jeffree star, and Trisha paytas are the 3 people I will never be able to support again. I am honestly shocked how quickly people forget and forgive all the horrible actions they do. People are actively supporting Shane since he’s come back and I refuse to even watch his new video and give that him a view. There’s soooo many people that actually deserve the platform they have you included swoop yet we still let these people thrive on a job they don’t even need to have. They could live normally off their savings for the rest of their lives.

@geobrizuela 2 жыл бұрын

I doubt the one missed view will change anything

@ilovemusic2543 2 жыл бұрын

@@geobrizuela channels die all the time, trishas views are already less than half of what she used to get. You may not think it makes a difference but it does.

@katelynmmcb 2 жыл бұрын

@@ilovemusic2543 but here you are watching

@ilovemusic2543 2 жыл бұрын

@@katelynmmcb watching swoop…. What’s your point

@cortney3798 2 жыл бұрын

@@katelynmmcb she’s watching an anti-video about 1 of the people she mentioned so maybe you just missed the point of the comment?

@rd9728 Жыл бұрын

Petition for Swoop to do more videos in clown makeup 🤣 girl this is a LOOK! I love it 🤡

@mistypuffs 2 жыл бұрын

Blinding yourself with makeup to emphasise learning from mistakes. That’s true dedication your craft, and I salute you

@BelindaShort 2 жыл бұрын

'I don't know who that person was' Every abuser, ever Also, I'd never want to be defended by Keem

@givepeanuts 2 жыл бұрын

right?! if i got defended by keem i would stop everything immediately and rethink ALL of my life choices.

@haiimlexi69 2 жыл бұрын

it pisses me off because i’d have more respect if he would just admit anything at all that he did and apologize. you are not a different person you are still shane dawson lol you just “changed”

@gillyhuxbaugh 2 жыл бұрын

Keem's kiss of death right there

@sourgreendolly7685 2 жыл бұрын

@@givepeanuts EXACTLY

@Butterflier00 2 жыл бұрын

like...it doesn't make you a bad person to admit that YOU were a bad person...and recognizing that YOU did fucked up things in your past...it's called growth....

@Pajali 2 жыл бұрын

You have to appreciate how Swoop is sitting here with in full clown makeup, but Shane is still the only clown in this video.

@beckybertish7841 2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏

@christy0612 2 жыл бұрын

Mmmm... This person is a clown too.

@user-yw6tm5oz1c 2 жыл бұрын

@@christy0612 How is Swoop a clown tho????

@uncomfortablyniche 2 жыл бұрын

@@christy0612 In what universe

@angelicMisha 2 жыл бұрын

Facts 👏🏾

@dwaynezilla 11 ай бұрын

A person that expects people to forgive them shouldn't be forgiven. True apologies are done for the sake of apology, not forgiveness.

@markovita0399 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for bringing to light the disrespect for the Indigenous community with his newer videos - when I saw what was going on it made me feel so uncomfortable and it just really shows the lack of knowloedge and acknowledgement they have when it comes to cultural neglegence. If we want to achieve true reconciliation you better de-educate and re-educate yourself because honey, North America has a lot of work and due dilligence for the Indigenous community - use those millions of views to do something about it

@casrrole 2 жыл бұрын

My biggest pet peeve is when people call certain things they did “mistakes”. I made a mistake when I thought I could eat a second bowl of cereal this morning. Blackface is not a mistake, it’s a choice.

@casrrole 2 жыл бұрын

@@mustangtheunkown6775 I’m 22 too lol. still haven’t put myself in blackface and called it a mistake

@mustangtheunkown6775 2 жыл бұрын

@@casrrole does this look like 2010 to you trust me dude you should know the humor back then

@casrrole 2 жыл бұрын

@@mustangtheunkown6775 yeah I was very much alive then and no, I didn’t dress up in blackface back then either

@pterodactylbull Жыл бұрын

Facts. My mom was impressed with me acknowledging that SIMPLE concept as a child. She would say you made a mistake don’t dwell on it and I’d respond with no i made a choice a very bad one and i will dwell on it until i fix the reason i made such a horrible decision. 🤷🏽‍♀️ got a lot of respect from her with that… I’m glad i had that mindset as well because it’s led to me having a fairly easy life like seriously

@casrrole Жыл бұрын

@@pterodactylbull that’s so sweet! But also yes, your life is significantly easier when you realise the debt of your choices

@beanbag1415 2 жыл бұрын

I was sexually abused when I was a kid and didn't watch Shane's content because it was so similar to what I was experiencing. I watched D'Angelo's video and it gave me that same sick feeling I get when I think about the abuse. It doesn't matter if it was a joke, jokes can still hurt people. I can't even imagine what it must be/have been like for POC. This guy shouldn't have a platform. PERIOD. I fucking hate this guy.

@bdkplaysx Жыл бұрын

yeah I don't get it? people get cancelled for so much less yet this guy is still running around as a millionaire 🙄 karma wya?

@HopeMasekuna 11 ай бұрын

I think i was the opposite, i think i watched his stuff at so young to expose myself to that kinda stuff willingly so i had the control over the situation. I was also sexualky abused as a child.

@sprayz390 Жыл бұрын

my older sister wouldn’t let me buy a colleen hoover book because she ‘did something bad’ (was accused of glorifying abuse) but she bought a james charles pallet and shane dawson and jeffrey star makeup pallet. keep in mind, my sister is full native american adopted from my uncle. and i’m only half native american. shane dawson was disrespectful to us when he CAME BACK. 😭 this was like recent purchase too, like maybe one year after it all came out.

@dekuwashi 2 жыл бұрын

I got into Shane from his new docs and only heard about the controversial things he did from essentiallly a game of massive telephone, and never even backtracked into his youtube videos because I had (improperly obviously) assumed because he had apologized several times and said those videos were horrible that he had taken them down, let alone even knew about all the weird shit he did with his fans outside it. Makes me nauseous I even supported his newer content with alll of this, I'm glad D'Angelo and you cover this to make more people aware and to call the collective internet out on constantly forgiving dangerous people

@FairyBogFather 2 жыл бұрын

As someone with a dissociative disorder, I literally sometimes don't know who I am. But even then, I still expect to be held accountable for harming people!! He's literally just going "I don't know her" when it's like BITCH THAT WAS YOU.

@motionless_horizon 10 ай бұрын

Same!! Like, there are actions that “I” have done (obviously nothing like Shane, more like, getting into a fight with a friend) that I don’t remember at all. I don’t know who I am a lot of the time, but it is never an excuse to be a horrible person. If I ever find out something happened without me being aware, I will immediately apologize and do everything to make it better, as much as possible. I would never pull the shit that Shane did.

@annacatherineandrews 9 ай бұрын

Because you have empathy and compassion! He doesn’t sadly. He only cares about himself

@noriii 9 ай бұрын

@@annacatherineandrewsyet he calls himself an "empath"💀

@karanaki_3256 9 ай бұрын

@@annacatherineandrewsMr. Empath lacks a key feature of having empathy!

@ajqueen31 2 жыл бұрын

I don't need Shane telling me I need to get to forgiving him already. The ego. The audacity. That's a clear example he's not a changed person, he didn't "grow". He has this expectation to be forgiven... and he's getting tired of waiting for it. Pathetic.

@iggymcmuffin 6 ай бұрын

Very that ! I take it I mean him pointing to the forgive quickly when he did that it was cringe and I was shook dude is a weirdo

@silly.gr3mlin 9 ай бұрын

kinda off topic, but you can definitely tell the difference between the influencers that apologize w/out being “cancelled” and the influencers that do. idk if this makes sense, but you can genuinely tell that influencers who are “cancelled” or called out for their actions feel forced into taking accountability when in reality they feel NO remorse for their actions. it’s so gross bc you can tell they have gotten away with it for SO long that they genuinely believe they can just apologize and continue making money.

@silly.gr3mlin 9 ай бұрын

and you already said it too! (i commented this before i got to later in the vid)

@hobing1618 2 жыл бұрын

I remember when I saw a shane's video like 10 years ago I was so disgusted I never watched him again until he made his series about his own dad, that time I thought he finally changed for good. The "jokes" that are disgusting now were disgusting back then too, many people like me never consumed his content. So it's annoying that many people around him like his mother, his ex girlfriend, his ex friends, his new friends, his new partner, youtube and his audience who knew and laughed at his stupid jokes are all disgusting too. Now there are so many people acting like nothing ever happened and that he was a poor victim of cancellation, that people have no brains either.

@HaleyAlexisRiot 2 жыл бұрын

Swoop holding a butter knife with no makeup on is my mood today 😂🖤

@kahlyda2591 2 жыл бұрын

I knew Trayvon, not personally well but through high school friends when it happened. I'm 27 now and he should have been 26. I've NEVER forgiven shane for that one. The rest of his history came to light for me after that happened. Thank you for continuing to talk about stuff like this, you consistently bring up stuff I still somehow didn't know about. It's so important.

@sheisaMachine 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. A child being racially profiled and murdered as a joke? Idk if 2011 was a time for jokes like that but….. i was 17 and wouldn’t have found it funny..

@lafleurdhiver 2 жыл бұрын

I graduated from college at the same time as his brother, and I believe we were in the same ceremony since they mentioned him in one of the opening speeches. I applaud him for how much he has accomplished, but it reminded me that Trayvon never got to experience that.

@august3833 2 жыл бұрын

That "joke" is the reason I stopped watching his videos.

@angiepayne9790 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone who would speak ill of the dead without any thoughts or concerns about their loved ones....the grief they're experiencing (forever)...and not care how your comments will hurt those people...well that should speak volumes about the person he really is.......evil. That's the simple answer....he's wickedly evil. Because we know people by their fruits and his fruit is all rotten. Prayers to you and all of Trayvon's family and friends.....in Jesus Mighty name!

@BratzRockAngels 2 жыл бұрын

@@angiepayne9790 I agree, people who make jokes like that are not funny, it's never funny. It's disgusting, and people who make jokes like that should be ashamed of themselves.

@spaceandthyme 9 ай бұрын

Thinking back about how his content affected me when I was a minor it makes me upset that he was allowed to use his platform as he did. One "joke" that still sticks with me is the time he describes the right way to self harm in order to die. I dont know where i would have learned that if it wasn't for Shane. His 'edgy humor' where he normalized racism, eating disorders, self harm and sexualizing minors should never have happened and he should not have had a platform to influence so many children.

@nalufreitas465 9 ай бұрын

Every time I see someone saying "it was a different time" I think immediately about Swoop saying "different to who?"

@AbbyRose0420 2 жыл бұрын

The way you described how he sexualized kids in order to build a career- could not have explained it any better! Don’t kiss me when I’m 12 and try to tell me that that kind of thinking and behavior wasn’t encouraged back then!

@laurenm.2796 2 жыл бұрын

You know, I am a firm believer in redemption, I wrote my thesis on the subject (albeit in fiction). Redemption is essentially made up of six parts: innocence, corruption (this can be from something internal or external), the corrupted state, inciting of redemption, culmination of redemption, and life after. What Shane and everyone needs to understand is that the life after is not going back to innocence, it's being a goddamn grown up and learning and growing and owning up to that shit and living with the consequences. You don't get to go back to being innocent and pure, and you definitely don't get to keep all the stuff you got while you were corrupted. You cannot be redeemed while continuing to hold onto your money and fame born out of corruption. Shane is not redeemed because if he was, he wouldn't be coming back.

@lucedrobac 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, your thesis sounds very interesting! May I ask which works of fiction did you base it on?

@AvengeTheTRexOfSteel 2 жыл бұрын

@Eszra Falcontail no. He wasn't gone for a long time. A year isn't a long time. Especially not when his fucked up career has lasted so long. Also, he's still calling the fucked up shit he said and did jokes. I don't care how you see it, he made statements that only predators and racists make regardless of if they're "jokes".

@Rain_Reign 2 жыл бұрын

@Eszra Falcontail tell me you didn’t actually watch the video you’re commenting on without telling me you didn’t watch the video.

@ReviewsAndMore9 2 жыл бұрын

He knows it which is why he turned off comments

@cageybee1154 2 жыл бұрын

Well thought out and beautifully stated.

@Kaybeezie92 2 жыл бұрын

Shane had a Tinychat back in the day with like 9 fans and I was apart of it. Once I fell asleep during one of the chats and he screen recorded it and posted it on KZfaq. I was so embarrassed, I messaged a bunch of people to flag the video to get it taken down. Like I was a teenager that’s so creepy

@mjustjeanette7026 2 жыл бұрын

The forgiveness part of the accountability trope is, sadly, made to make the victims forgive the abuser instead of ever making the abuser be actually be accountable. Their saying sorry does not require that apology be accepted.

@oliviam8980 2 жыл бұрын

When you commit a crime, is it acceptable to go to the judge and say "I just wasn't myself", "I don't know who that was", "it was just a joke gone too far"? Wild.

@jazwhoaskedforthis 2 жыл бұрын

He’s right, he SHOULD HAVE lost his career. He exposed his true character over and over again. I could go on and on, but we already know. People need to just let go of this weird attachment to someone who wasn’t funny and stop telling themselves they have to keep liking him because they used to, before they had taste or common sense because they were ten.

@Crabernacker 2 жыл бұрын

Like seriously someone saying "fuck" was the pinnacle of comedy during that time

@slasherscrews 2 жыл бұрын

I used to follow that logic but it’s better to realize the truth that Shane is a piece of walking trash and controversy than still being in denial cause I used to think he was funny. He really doesn’t deserve to be back.

@michellem3315 2 жыл бұрын

@@slasherscrews Are you perfect?

@fabunicorn262marshmallow4 2 жыл бұрын

I remember watching Shane and laughing about it with my friends when I was 11 But since everything came out I stopped watching at the time I didn’t understand why because he owned up to everything he did but I kinda do now because isn’t he still doing the same thing after all that I just forgot he existed in all honesty and now I sit here feeling like a shit person because I was like but he apologized never again

@maiv9434 Жыл бұрын

The issue with cancel culture is that it doesn't actually work on the real offenders most of the time, but it harms people that genuinely didn't do wrong or made mistakes and are aware of it. Real abusers often know the way out of situations like this and we just end up hurting each other instead

@bribri0513 9 ай бұрын

I will say as a POC, I do think the racial jokes were more acceptable at the time. The movie White Chicks or Tropic Thunder where Robert Downey Jr was literally in black face were seen as funny. Now people understand more the sensitivities people have. But to try to cancel someone for something that was acceptable at the time makes no sense. Mind you, this ONLY applies to the racially insensitive jokes he said. The crimes against kids are disgusting

@rookideetrainer1635 9 ай бұрын

If what other people told me is right the joke in one of those was that he was a white person in blackface; Shane is just mocking black people straight up Not saying either is okay, just a bit of context on why critisism on Shane can/should still be way harsher

@basementdwellercosplay 2 жыл бұрын

"We forgive quickly, how about you do that" makes me want to fight like you don't deserve forgiveness Shane, you've not tried a single bit!!!!!!

@piffba 2 жыл бұрын

“We make mistakes, yes we do!!!” Those mistakes are like, accidentally stepping on someone’s toes. Not racism and exploiting minors for years, SHANE.

@Lucifersfursona Жыл бұрын

Being a cpredator is not a “mistake.” Being racist as an adult is not a mistake (unfortunately a lot of children are taught racism, but refusing to educate yourself on other people’s human experiences and insisting that’s fine is a choice.)

@Kat-lm5rk 2 жыл бұрын

I hate that he calls everything he did a mistake. He made active choices to build his career off offensive content. He never owns up to that, he always writes it off as "mistakes." Once is a mistake, more than once is a choice. No one will forgive him because he literally won't take accountability.

@kiterafrey 9 ай бұрын

Sadly, as someone who grew up in a conservative town, in a high demand religion. Many people I grew up around really did think beating wives, slavery, & child brides were okay because that was just how it was back then. They really would excuse 16 year old girls marrying 30 year men because when it happened it was the 60s and it must not be so bad because they were still married. Well yeah, our religion didn't really accept divorce unless something felony level happened. It breaks my heart knowing people really do just excuse things like that.

@brittanyblu4006 2 жыл бұрын

The influencer posing bit is EVERY influencer before they film their comeback/apology videos

@Kat-99 2 жыл бұрын

I was a preteen while Shane was really popular and I remember being both annoyed and disgusted with his content. At the age of 10,11,12 I KNEW edgy humour wasn’t funny and was wrong. So he damn well knew that as a 20 something year old man

@yennefer440 2 жыл бұрын

I was also preteen when he was popular. Time is no excuse for his actions. If 11 year old me could see that then, why can't people see it now.

@BoxOKittens 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I was exactly the same, I remember people gushing about him so much when I was a teen and I watched a few of his vids and just got such bad vibes...

@axaaril 2 жыл бұрын

Same! I didn't understand why people was so crazy about him when everything he did was so offensive and tacky

@emmyjulianne6850 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t even call this edgy humor. That is completely different than what he did, he just calls it that to make seem less than what it actually was. But same, I saw one of his videos when I was like…9 or 10 and I felt so uncomfortable watching that stuff. My friends thought it was so funny but I would just sit there like…”can we play psp” /:

@xoGullysMumox 2 жыл бұрын

Edgy humour is funny, he doesn't have edgy humour he's just disgusting with the majority of "jokes" he says and he thinks he's funny

@gurogaisha 2 жыл бұрын

he took a sabbatical to avoid being called what he is, and jokes about people needing to move on and forgive him already. He wants the results of an apology with none of the sincerity, or the sympathy.

@froggygurl8775 9 ай бұрын

"It was a different time then." Racist "jokes" were offensive in 2009, too, buddy.

@willowt9196 Жыл бұрын

I came across one of my high school folders form the 80s. When I read a few of the things I had written on the cover I felt so much shame. I was in my 30s when I found it. I felt so bad that I really hoped that at the time none of my classmates saw what was written. Some of the sayings were inappropriate and micro aggressions. I cannot go back and change what I did nor can I even explain why I did that. I am glad that I did feel utter shame for what I did. So much do that I threw that folder away. This may be the first time I have ever told anyone. As I am writing this I feel so bad for any of my classmates at the time that saw those writings and I hurt.

@ShowWithNoName 2 жыл бұрын

Shane Dawson is like 90% of the way to Onision.

@sarahschroeter3368 2 жыл бұрын

I was actually thinking this during the entire video 🥴

@wildstingray4463 2 жыл бұрын

oh my god you're right

@kathiane29 2 жыл бұрын

only difference is Shane has not had sex with barely legal teenagers, else they'd be on the same level

@Mora-ed8xf 2 жыл бұрын

It’s funny you say that because it took me ten years on KZfaq to realize they were two different people.

@kiwigirlNZ 2 жыл бұрын

Well, they did use to be friends...

@allisonfisher9304 2 жыл бұрын

You slowly morphing into a clown while savaging Shane Dawson’s foolery is the most appropriate thing I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your meta mastery💜💜💜

@Vi_Vi_1 Жыл бұрын

Truly a work of art lol

@stephanienoblet8503 2 жыл бұрын

I remember in elementary school our music teacher told us the N word was a bad word and to never say it. I have never said the N word ever

@nb8817 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that he’s still saying that his basically 10+ years black face soaked blood money, some of which he used to buy that house btw, was just from him “playing a character” is all I need tbh

@levantine1978 2 жыл бұрын

Shane Dawson can't even keep the mask of responsibility up for an entire apology video without slipping into his "Oh hee hee I'm so silly" persona every few seconds. He's exactly who everyone thinks he is - a self important twit who has never faced any real accountability for his actions.

@_labacanitaz 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't even give him the satisfaction of a view. I basically watched it through another youtuber (who actually is talented and a good person) reviewing it. Anyway, every O5 seconds he dropped the "I took accountability" act and in the next O5 he says "I actually didn't..." He does what he always does. Pretends he's gunna go somewhere deep and address things, then PRETENDS to get sidetracked like he has ADHD and says something random that happens and never speaks about it. I hate that throughout my early high school years....I was a DIE HARD fan. So much so I got a SIGNED CARD *FROM HIS MOM!* thanking me for the valentines day card I sent him and the letter I wrote. I was pathetic. But I'm glad I got out earlier when I did.

@simplyme417 2 жыл бұрын

He was mainly talking about his merch in his “return” to KZfaq. Why is he still advertising it?!

@BlackDogsAndLadybugs 2 жыл бұрын

Probably trapped in a contract, lmao.

@kiwigirlNZ 2 жыл бұрын

Because he STILL doesn't know to read the room.

@katelynspencer8392 2 жыл бұрын

@@kiwigirlNZ this is the most likely explanation. He is so tone deaf . And I know deaf . I’m literally not supposed to be going outside my house without hearing aids . * I’m using humour to cope* I’ll leave

@danswantarot4946 2 жыл бұрын

Cos he's still demonitized isn't it?

@Theirtherethere. 2 жыл бұрын

Advice from Jeffrey star

@Donteatmahfood 11 ай бұрын

The fact that a lot of this is relevant today… with Colleen Exploiting children is not a mistake it’s intention.

@itshellosydney5284 2 жыл бұрын

Being 25 now and looking at this and knowing that I watched this shit and heard these things at 11 years old is so horrifying. This man should have been over so soooo long ago. There is irreversible damage done to so many.

@ricohascake6719 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think people understand that it doesn't matter what excuses or how much people "change" those people and minorities were still harmed and Shane made money off those people. Then he proceeds to try and separate himself from his "mistakes" and "jokes". Idk about you but I don't think I've ever heard him take accountability for his actions.

@Anoukvs91 2 жыл бұрын

Really?! He did everything he could to make this better while being canceled. I’m sure if I look into your life, your not a saint either. 😉 show some empathy. Shane is allowed to move on with his life.

@arsonvamp 2 жыл бұрын

@@Anoukvs91 he literally hasn’t changed. he’s still profiting off of pain caused to minorities and making terrible, boring, poorly edited content and being a manipulative asshole

@ricohascake6719 2 жыл бұрын

@@Anoukvs91 you ✨ completely ✨ missed the point

@doperagu8471 2 жыл бұрын

@@Anoukvs91 Shane is free to move on with his life, and I hope that he has changed and bettered himself. But that doesn't mean that anyone on this platform (or anywhere) owes him forgiveness or views. And that definitely doesn't mean he gets to just come back and start making videos again like nothing every happened and not expect some sort of backlash. I mean, he's allowed to make whatever videos he wants, but that doesn't make him free of consequence. He's literally just back to making the exact same videos he was before his "break" or "cancelling" or whatever. How is this an example of moving on? Or even changing?

@maeparker04 2 жыл бұрын

The sponsor “Established titles” is a scam. Unfortunately, acquiring a one square meter plot of land in some Scottish backwater isn’t enough to have a title of nobility bestowed upon you. Believe it or not, Scotland actually has a court dedicated to overseeing all issues of heraldry which covers things like specific coat of arms usage and titles. It may seem silly, but the Scottish, and British for that matter, take this stuff really seriously. Anyway, it is known as The Court of the Lord Lyon and it ruled pretty emphatically that programs like Established Titles are not real. The court found that titles, including Lady or Lord, aren’t really names, but instead a description of people living on specific estates. Anyone owning a souvenir land plot, apartment or other residential property have no right to use these titles. As for that $49.95 you’re spending on land, well you’re not even getting that either. The Land Registration (Scotland) Act 2012 clearly states that souvenir plots can’t be registered with the Land Register of Scotland which means you don’t actually legally own the land. In fact, the plot you have “bought” can be sold to other people as well since it’s not registered. Of course, Established Titles claims not to do this and fair play to them. But they are also trying to sell you something that has no real value so it does kind of feel like a scam. Established Titles has countless of positive reviews and plenty of people on social media stumping for their nonsense product, but it’s not hard for scammers to do this. These people all talk about how cool it is to call themselves a Lord or Lady which is fine. Some even mention being treated better on flights and such when using their title. But here’s the thing. You can give yourself whatever the hell title you want anyway. Is anyone actually going to ask for proof of Lordship? It’s highly unlikely. Could you imagine one of the uninterested members of a check-in crew asking to see land ownership records to prove you really are, in fact, a Lord? Yeah, me neither. Once I accidentally select Dr. as my title for a flight. No one asked to see a degree or any credentials. If you really want to be known as a Lord or Lady, you can do without buying a phony plot of land in Scotland. Just start filling in forms with Lord as your title and save yourself the $49.95. You could even print out a fake certificate if you felt so inclined. Are Established Titles real? No. And even if they were, you could literally call yourself a Lady or Lord anyway. It’s not like anyone outside of Scotland would notice or care.

@Kementeri 2 жыл бұрын

So... they are basically selling land NFTs

@fuziontonygaming 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kementeri Yup

@fuziontonygaming 2 жыл бұрын

They’ve been debunked by several KZfaqrs that research

@Janellabelle Жыл бұрын

Yea, that's what I thought when I first saw that advertisement years ago. You can call yourself lord or lady if you feel like it anyway for free. Donald Trump named his kid Baron. Lol the dude from Motley Crew's real ass name is Nikki Sixx, for example. He went down to the DMV and changed it. Lol for free. You don't have to own a square foot of land anywhere. The advertisement makes it seem like you need to though. It says something about being a Scottish traditional that anyone owning land is a lord or lady. I don't know how anyone ever believed that either. Don't they know that probably most people in Scotland own the land they live on...that would make most people a lord or lady. That seems like something we would've heard of.

@brandonkennedy4160 10 ай бұрын

Really glad people are speaking out about this. I’m glad I’m seeing less of these sponsors these days, but it’s a shame how many sponsored these establish titles for a long time.

@mariodimitriadis 2 жыл бұрын

The clown makeup was GENIUS. GO QUEEN 👑 🤡 👑

@thonkytonk 10 ай бұрын

“it’s my face again, yes i know, it’s bald.” that killed me 😂😂😂

@es0516 2 жыл бұрын

The fact Shane said in that comeback video "I've moved on I don't want to talk about it" just further solidifies he's trash. His first video back should've been a LEGIT apology video as a start to show remorse, but of course, it wasn't. You can['t just gloss over that kinda shit and expect decent people with morals to just let that go.

@HellnVee 2 жыл бұрын

he made a bunch but he didn't lead right after leaving with that. I think no one on here actually watches him? I don't Stan the guy but I did want to see both sides and I think he's doing pretty well idk

@givepeanuts 2 жыл бұрын

when he started off the video with “just kidding, i didn’t learn anything” pitifully i’d seen enough. he literally ADMITTED it.

@geobrizuela 2 жыл бұрын

He addresses it in the beginning of the video

@givepeanuts 2 жыл бұрын

@@geobrizuela what did he address exactly? not the p*dophilia. not the bl*ackface. not the myriad of OTHER horrible shit he did. he just vaguely acknowledged that something happened, and he proceeded to make another hour or so of his nothing content lol. his pitiful attempt at “addressing” the horrible things he did was not good enough.

@futuristiccat5636 2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY

@grossartus 2 жыл бұрын

He said "fake crying" to Tati but he believed Tana's fake crying xD

@pickled_sausage 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I wouldn't believe ANYONE in this makeup community (yes, makeup, not beauty, there all rotten inside). I feel like Tayi is the typical person that likes to light shit aflame and pretend she's innocent. So I wouldn't believe ANYONE in this group.

@missmakaveli6867 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh I fully agree with him, Let’s look at what Tati did, actually it’s very similar to what swoop herself did. Tati even if it was factual they jumped on a huge platform to expose her so called friend James coz she was hurt by his collaboration with a vitamin product, now when the internet switched up the hate on James bandwagon and it backfired directly to her, she then apologised to James and threw the blame to two others, besides the backlash it sounds so similar to what swoop did right? Coz if these people truly felt that way about the friend they were exposing why did they continue a friendship for so long? This doesn’t excuse the behaviour of people that have been exposed, it also doesn’t excuse the people that did the exposing, we see teens that harm themselves over high school bullying, yet this exposing does exactly he same shit, it tells your fan base these people are horrible people, and then that fan base does what high school kids do, they get nasty, dox, threaten harm or death to the person exposed, we talk about intent and yeah harmful comments and actions are not mistakes, so knowing the way the internet works Tati and Swoops intent was to destroy their friends lives, financially and mentally. Pretty shitty huh. So yeah I agree Tati was not as genuine in either video and I do believe some of it was croc tears. What I find fucked up too is these people that do the exposing have benefited from those friendships and then continue to benefit out of the drama it creates, then play victim and act like they are complete saints while being just as shady, that is intentional asf if you ask me.

@Ruosteinenknight 2 жыл бұрын

@@pickled_sausage One of the reasons why people believed what Tati said, because she was the least problematic person in the beauty community. That's one of the reason why Jefree and Shane acted trough her: Shane had no standing in the community and Jafar doesn't have a baggage so much as he has a cargo container of past sins to eat his credibility. It had to be Tati, because they otherwise had no weight. That being said, she turned against Shane and Jefree purely out of selfish reasons: they were about to wash their hands of the whole matter and let Tati take the fall. Understandably she wasn't interested being left twisting in the wind.

@Gigibaby88 2 жыл бұрын

The part that always gets me in that video is when she was talking about being molested and he was all "omg *I* was molested!" as though more than one person couldn't have been molested in the world. It was just so narcissistic, that's why I don't buy his whole "I'm an empath" shtick 😒

@jodijones33 6 ай бұрын

I've learned so much in the past few days from your content about the things that people are following online and I find it really ridiculous that these people will have 20 million followers and be on there for 10 years doing crazy things and nobody at KZfaq notice the content prior to everybody raising hell about it. It's a good thing that KZfaq finally demonetizes these people but they make a lot of money prior to doing that

@kiterafrey 9 ай бұрын

I loved the Veneers doc. I have two crowns for damaged teeth, but of the 3 teeth damaged in an accident one had to be fully removed. I have a whole there now just behind a canine. You can see it when I smile and it kills me. I can't get an implant until I do braces to reset my bite as an implant cannot be moved ever. The idea of getting snap in Veneers for videos lifts my heart.

@nickl6774 2 жыл бұрын

i find it interesting the idea of 'cancel culture', because i don't feel like shane's leaving WAS actually being 'cancelled'. he didn't really lose anything in the end, he still has his channel and is still rich. if he like actually lost something or had SOME form of anything bad actually happen. like news articles called him a creep and predatory, but he was never charged, never went to court. it was more he left on his own terms to try and avoid as much backlash, and plan his next move to make money.

@silcoxjakob 2 жыл бұрын

Charged for what exactly? Shane didnt break any laws lol

@nickl6774 2 жыл бұрын

@@silcoxjakob sure, 'technically'. i don't think having sex with animals is legal though? nor is talking sexually about children/and to children? he's the same boat as onision, skating the edge of grossness.

@silcoxjakob 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickl6774 Dont call for people to be charged when we both know there wasnt a crime lol

@silcoxjakob 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickl6774 He made some lame jokes youre offended by, cool he still doesnt deserve to go to jail

@nickl6774 2 жыл бұрын

@@silcoxjakob if you think a grown man kissing teenage fans and telling them to show him their 'fuck me face', is okay, you really need to evaluate your own choices dude. gross, and just disgusting you are defending that.

@P_artypoison 2 жыл бұрын

I just miss Jenna Marbles - I feel tired. At the same time, I wish I could just leave the internet, like Jenna

@lwalker1998 2 жыл бұрын

So do it….

@battybibbles 2 жыл бұрын

you can do that, you don’t need anyone’s permission

@justkibby5959 2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about going offline too. Its not easy, since we all have the internet in our hands all day long. I think its better to remove 1 social media app at a time. Remove Twitter. Next month remove tiktik, next month Instagram. Etc. I only use 2 socials so its hard to commit. Plus I have to save all my photos before deleting. Its a chore. 1 step at a time.

@cristyroman6080 2 жыл бұрын

@@justkibby5959 i lasted almost 2 years and half without any form of social media but mostly because i was in a abusive controlling relationship. The only thing I was allowed to use was KZfaq.

@isthiscereallife 9 ай бұрын

Generally, the "cancel culture doesn't exist" thing is so so true. But at least from what ai've seen, there are people who suffer from internet dogpiling... but those people are usually creators who are small-time creators and marginalized people. Regular people with a moderately sized following, who may have just stumbled upon popularity, and more often than not are queer and people of color. Usually mentally ill, as well. Those people are the real victims of "cancel culture." One off-color comment or an unpopular opinion, and small creators can get harrassed off of the internet altogether. And it's usually people punching down or across. But yeah, no, these big big creators like Shane and Jeffree and literally every other rich bigoted POS? "Cancel culture" doesn't exist for them. They still have money, power, influence.

@zomb_bree7950 10 ай бұрын

seeing him now about to have kids is worrying

@Briannalynn112 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely PERFECT timing. Gonna watch Swoop be petty while I bake some cinnamon rolls! ☺️

@kelseywardell8097 2 жыл бұрын

Now I want cinamon rolls!! 😀

@keeksie7590 2 жыл бұрын

Girl me too!

@CrypticJasmine 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a dream!

@janelle9753 2 жыл бұрын

I HAVE SOME OMG I FORGOT. YOU WONDERFUL ANGEL ❤ I'll need something sweet to balance out his repulsiveness

@BlackDogsAndLadybugs 2 жыл бұрын

I hope they turn out well! And not nearly as sour and half-baked as Shane.

@emilylovesmelody 2 жыл бұрын

i don’t understand how your vids don’t have millions of views they are such good quality and the effort put into them is greatly appreciated

@chronicallykelly7193 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@Ms10yearsafter 2 жыл бұрын

Second this! ❤

@Scriptkitty-sd8dp 2 жыл бұрын

I third this.

@YouTubeTeacherRemote 2 жыл бұрын

Shock value, "fake cancel culture, racism and sexism/pedophilia sells. It's what America craves ergo his 20 million views. America builds entire businesses off of backs of treating people like trash ie. Racism, sexism, colorism and now influences are just part of our history that oh too many times we have come to accept and excuse. The excuses allows the culture to continue and be forgiven. Swoop and others that create content to be honest and tell the truth SHOULD get 20 million views but clearly the evidence of how forgiving people can be to those "privileged" or "look like him" is evident. To me it's clear why Swoop doesn't get the views even though we all know she should. Creative, informative and intelligent. Never ever change the PETTY UNIVERSITY! The make up is 🔥

@ReviewsAndMore9 2 жыл бұрын

Viewers have to share her videos to help build it.

@e.starling141 2 жыл бұрын

I disagree that being "cancelled" isnt a thing. People actually lose there jobs and livelihoods over these things. In youtube world its a little different. The influencers in question are usually VERY popular and have young fans who easily forgive. Whereas people in the media or corporations have actual bosses who fire them and sometimes even black list them after enough outcry for cancellation. So yes, it exists. It just doesnt seem to have a permanent effect on KZfaq personalities. Though certainly you could argue its brought down certain earning power of specific individuals that were at the top of their game. And Bundy is a horrible analogy here as "cancelling" didnt exist then, and he was a prior nobody serial killer sent to prison and eventually death. And even if one was to consider him "cancelled", (as if he was ever something important and popular to people before his crimes were publicized) he wasn't exactly thriving after said cancellation. He was doing hard time in isolation on death row. Sparingly giving out details of girls he killed in an effort to extend his life. Yes he had a few psychotic fan girls, but again that's not someone living the highlife. Anyway i agreed with almost everything you said about Shane, but wholeheartedly disagree cancel culture doesnt exist. (And at times goes too far.) Shane just managed to evade a full cancellation. But at least he would have suffered some monetarily. And was publicly shamed. As youre doing here.

@thonkytonk 10 ай бұрын

soapbox time: like my parents always said, saying you’re sorry means nothing if you haven’t changed anything. it being ‘a different time’ does not make things okay, and i think that is very important to recognize. like, if you thought something was inconsequential bc it was ‘normal’ when you did it, just own your ignorance instead of distancing yourself from it. i have done and said plenty things out of ignorance that i no longer agree with, and i have no problem admitting that, to myself or to others, because i have learned from those actions and actively changed my behavior. if you’re /actually/ not ignorant anymore, then it shouldn’t be a big deal to acknowledge that you were. plus, if you’re genuinely remorseful, then you shouldn’t even need to be called out for harmful behavior. you just change the way you think, apologize for whatever hurt you caused, and do better in the future without the expectation of reward. a perfect internet example of that is markiplier and friends. back in the early days of their content, aka the ‘different time’ influencers constantly reference, they occasionally said very ignorant things. but they were never pushed to apologize for it, because they just acknowledged their past ignorance, then changed and corrected that behavior on their own, without having to be called out for it. real apologies don’t have to be dramatic, because the actions you take post-apology are what truly makes a difference.

@jude8067 2 жыл бұрын

fr, shane made sexuality so normal for me i didn’t realize i was being groomed and sexually abused by my neighbors growing up, they were also emotionally abusive and i just convinced myself it was normal especially bc shane made it feel normal for me, i feel disgusted for allowing him to be an role model for me when i was in middle school, i was so uncomfortable as i started realizing how much my morals were sounding like my parents when i watched him, i love them but they are Gen X and i didn’t wanna be their carbon copy anyway yeah it’s terrible that he has victims they deserve to be heard

@sheisaMachine 2 жыл бұрын

This is a good example of how deeper the problem of his content runs. You can tell he hasn’t fully realized the extent of his harm because he still jokes.

@jude8067 2 жыл бұрын

@@sheisaMachine yeah, and especially being from a small southern town, he was popular with just about everyone who felt edgy, but it was way worse than that, i also happen to have an ex who started hooking up with adults who was also a fan of shane’s content and i was always worried about the danger that could’ve been for him.

@KingOfGaymes 2 жыл бұрын

I watched his content in elementary school and I swear it influenced my uncomfortableness towards sex.. Like I didn’t know what “sex” was but I just knew it was what he talked about and made gross skits of.. And THAT was my introduction to sex. I hate how I was exposed to such nasty sexual stuff as a CHILD. I wish I’d never seen it.. Maybe then I could have a normal feeling towards those things as an adult now.. I’m ace with an aversion to anything sexual and now I wonder if seeing Shane’s content when I was young contributed to that.

@Malikiliki 2 жыл бұрын

I would gladly give up 9 Shane Dawson's for 1 Jenna Marbles. Her head on take of harmful material posted just really was what should have been the gold standard. Unfortunately it didn't start a wave. I hope that everyone (me too fuck bro) can do better.

@mik-exe- 11 ай бұрын

"It was a different time" means too many people didnt take it seriously enough then and ignored the damage to victims. It would be one thing to acknowledge the past content having aspects he was proud of but they were ruined and tainted with despicable behaviour, but he went with the other angle of emphasis. Then there was stuff that is straight up vomit-inducing, like the sexualising of Willow (that one really makes me ill) 🤢🤮

@ImJoppe 8 ай бұрын

My sister still watch shane. She is a smart woman in her 25, but still manipulated by shanes and other influencers shit. Its sad how some can stare directly in the camera or someones eyes and just lie so effortless. Love you swoop! Your heart and content is inspirational and i hope life is as good to you as you are for these kids and other victims ❤

@cricketcalin 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't watch his return video, but I did check out a couple of other reactions cause I'm still nosey (I just don't want to give him views). And when I heard that he pointed to the forgive quickly section and told viewers they could work on that the RAGE I felt. The presumption, the cajones, the sheer HUTZPAH of this man is next level. And now I find out how he said it and it's EVEN WORSE. If his audacity he radiates could be converted to power, it would solve the world energy crisis. Since D'Angelo took down his video, I've been hoping for another thorough takedown to share with people if they ever wonder why I have never and will never support Shane Dawson. So thank you! May the algorithm favor you.

@Throatzillaaa 2 жыл бұрын

oh I missed D'Angelo's video... how come he took it down?

@cricketcalin 2 жыл бұрын

@@Throatzillaaa I believe once the stuff with James Charles texting fans that are minors came out, he took down all three in the series (J*, Shane, Tati) because he considered the videos defending James and he didn't want to have that out there. I believe it's on his community tab from around a year ago (not sure how often he posts there). His wording might be different but I believe that's the gist of it. I know it had to do with the accusations against James and how his videos included James in a way he no longer agreed with.

@bobbiedaniel9347 2 жыл бұрын

I was shook when he said it would "be weird" to remove his problematic videos. Like what?? 🤣

@melissacoulter3996 2 жыл бұрын

Right? It’s WEIRD that as a grown man he sat down and thought those “skits” out and then performed them! I feel like the past almost two years has really been an eye opener and shown that the level of pure stupidity in our country has risen to dangerous levels.

@Mac61202 4 ай бұрын

The fact that someone was his egg donor?!? The fact that someone was the surrogate for his children?!? I'm still flabbergasted that he is now a parent.

@amayanichole 10 ай бұрын

I never forgave Shane and never forgot what he did. I do believe that some people are definitely capable of changing but there are just things that should never be acceptable and like he said (but went back on later) he should have lost everything after all of his shit was brought back to light. I remember watching Shane and being VERY young…probably was about 10-12 years old. Not only did I watch Shane but I also used to watch Onision frequently (since they were very popular creators back then during that era) and I can 100% tell you that because people like Shane and Onision were so popular to younger fans…they created such a dangerous space for these young impressionable minds. I got into relationships with people who used and abused me BECAUSE I thought similar actions and ‘jokes’ were acceptable. And to the young fans who actually met Shane and are now looking back at how they were exploited…I can not imagine how damaging and traumatic that must be for them.. my heart goes out to all those individuals affected by this man. I really hope people wake up one day and stop supporting him. It really makes me so disgusted to see him able to live a wealthy lifestyle in this brand new house of his, buying fucking alpacas and shit. He doesn’t deserve any of it. He has not changed. That is my opinion.

@pmsluver1 2 жыл бұрын

Swoop, thank you so much for this. I used to watch Shane when I was young and highly impressionable, in addition to the fact I was raised in a family who enjoyed racist humor and the misuse of racial slurs. I never saw anything wrong with his content until he was “canceled” last year. I put in a lot of work this past year unpacking a lot of that behavior and still was ready to welcome him back with his new series. Thankfully, I watched your doc and now am second guessing my decision and realize that I am someone who’s privileged, so of course none of that humor offended me. It’s not my apology to accept. With that said, I’m going to unfollow him and continue second guessing my decisions so that I put other’s opinions and experiences in the forefront of my mind as well. I still have a lot more work to do and with docs like this, I can keeping cutting out any hatred that was implanted in my brain.

@ReviewsAndMore9 2 жыл бұрын

Good for you Shalene.

@mlwalston1 2 жыл бұрын

excellent! self reflection is difficult but necessary for growth!

@stxrstrxckmxteo515 2 жыл бұрын

Hey shalene, it’s really great you’ve said this. I know a lot of old Shane fans are really defensive because they loved him sm, as did I at a certain point. I’m glad u were able to just look back and reflect and unpack everything. It’s a very difficult thing to do. I’ve had to do the same recently and it’s a strange humbling but somewhat dangerous feeling, realizing your not the good person you want to believe you are, but don’t let it keep you down forever! there’s always tomorrow and UNLIKE Shane, you have already done the first step in change which is accountability, true accountability lol. Sorry this is kinda random but I hope you continue to move forward and continue to reflect on your decisions, and it’s tough when it’s someone you used to love

@MilkChocolateGeese 2 жыл бұрын

💖💖💖

@renb6133 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a credit to you that you’ve, consciously decided, to not follow in your parents’ footsteps. It takes a lot of self reflection & honesty to change what’s hotwired into us. It sounds like you’ve had quite a journey & are a much better person for it. Good on you! It takes guts to do this. You’re a good person. Be happy!

@kimberlypollard6025 2 жыл бұрын

I am so, so tired of the best and most dedicated of commentary KZfaqrs having to spend their time on this fool. This is yet another monumental video, so well researched, executed, and performed. Hopefully this new again light will spread the word to more people and eventually we'll get to just ignore him.

@RavenFilms 9 ай бұрын

Old as hell, I know, but girl! I about died @ “white-face ain’t a thing” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@RD-py9sv 10 ай бұрын

That "good person" bullshit gets thrown up so much to protect assaulters. It doesn't matter if it's "only one time," they still made the choice. It should NEVER absolve them of responsibility for their actions. You make a choice and should be forced to face the consequences without that "good person," or "bright future," or whatever else they use to minimize their culpability. They should stop receiving all money from the vile content and have it redirected to their victims. People like him only care about the money.

@Poutnicek 2 жыл бұрын

"Not even Ted Bundy got cancelled! ...well, yes, I guess, technically the electric chair DID cancel him-" 'Tis the year of our lord 2021, 4:43 AM where I live. Just documenting this for the police once they start investigating why I mysteriously died at a ripe age of 24. It was not an illness, it was not a poison, I was just innocently watching a Swoop Doc about Shane Dawson being a shitbag and this sentence happened. Thank you and have a good day.

@jessicawitney1154 2 жыл бұрын

That KILLED me too, I swear!

@hannah8479 2 жыл бұрын

i’m so over the “it was so long ago he’s changed”. we’re not talking about some 14 year old kid making disgusting “jokes” he was literally in his 20’s. and every cancelled KZfaqr from that era says “oh it was for shock”, forgetting to mention he already garnered his audience, that’s the hard part, he could’ve posted anything and he WANTED to post that. you don’t toss around racist and predatory rhetoric like that SO consistently unless that’s how you genuinely feel. the only reason those videos are gone is so he can hide the worst of it and paint his own narrative that they were just jokes and harmless and he’s a different person. oki Shane. dope ass vid as usual swoop 🖤

@stxrstrxckmxteo515 2 жыл бұрын

YESSSS THIS 10000% and also the more someone constantly says “it’s a joke” is clearly a cop out to avoid being called out. And the other thing, there’s ALWAYS truth behind a “joke”. Especially when someone repeats it

@hannah8479 2 жыл бұрын

@@stxrstrxckmxteo515 EXACTLY!! smh. i gotta admit I had blinders on at the beginning of his channel cause I was literally 9 years old but the kind of person he is has been clear since the beginning. He might not be out here saying the n word and talking about r wording children anymore; but that’s only because it’s not “cool” to be “edgy” like that anymore. but his intentions are clear enough through who he still attempts to defend and redeem, and who he surrounds himself with. it’s a hard pass on that guy and all of his colleagues for me

@allexusyerian2865 2 жыл бұрын

The “shock” is what got and kept his veiws. Lol

@futuristiccat5636 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! And by the way he hasn’t changed by making jokes, avoiding the situation and manipulating his audience in his recent comeback.

@coryhawley738 2 жыл бұрын

dude i made jokes like that a lot of even made jokes a lot worse than Shane ever did when i was a teen also how the hell can a criminal get forgiven by you guys and not some dude who made shitty inappropriate jokes it makes no sense also dark humour is the main type of humour in the uk so i don't really see the offence.

@kiterafrey 9 ай бұрын

OMG thank for the part about "cancel culture." I 100% agree people get upset and outraged then forget when the next person is on the chopping block then they go back to worshiping the POS they "canceled." And canceled isn't what people like James Charles and Shane who groomed minors need, it's legal justice and jail time they need.

@chefssaltybawlz Жыл бұрын

I disagree with you on micro aggressions. There was nothing “micro” about Shane using the N word hard R. Let’s stop pretending micro racism is a thing. It isn’t. What he did was blatant.

@selinakyle3426 2 жыл бұрын

The whole “oh it was a different time. These things don’t fly nowadays” is a bunch of bull. I remembered before Shane’s cancellation there were numerous black content creators like chescaleigh and Kat Blaque have called him out for black face but they got attacked by anti-sjws and Shane’s fans. There were people that criticized Shane and his “edgy” humor but people just want to excuse that.

@Fate263 Жыл бұрын

Yep... they say clout is a dangerous drug, but I would argue this devotion to Dawson is right up there. In my book, enablers and defenders of shitty behavior are just as culpable as the offender.

@margodphd 11 ай бұрын

*got attacked by racists that felt called out.

@Bjorksbackyard 9 ай бұрын

Chescaleigh was on him for years, right from the start, Shane made hating her part of his victim persona.

@kathrynvincent1563 2 жыл бұрын

Ok I did not see potentially becoming a title owner on my SWOOP doc bingo (Congrats on the sponsors)

@PettyUniversity 2 жыл бұрын

Omg same! I just bought a pack for my friends who just had a baby and they freaked haha

@lantearia Жыл бұрын

The first thing I ever found of Shane Dawson's was the song, "I'm Sorry I'm a Fuck Up", and, as someone who was in a abusive relationship, and also had an abusive home life, it did resonate with me. But, even tho it did, there were still parts of the song, and definitely parts of the video, that did make me uncomfortable, even at that time. I tried not to care, however, since it did give me some comfort, that there were more "fuck ups" like me out there, people who could literally do *nothing* right (I now know that thought process is wrong). When I tried watching more of his content, however, I couldn't. It wasn't a humor I found... well, funny. I still think of that song sometimes, when things go wrong, but, I try not to, both because I know that thought process, of me being a fuck up and doing everything wrong, is harmful to my recovery, and because just how bad Shane Dawson is as a person. Even making that song, and especially that video, even if it comforted people, was bad. Because, the comfort it gave, wasn't a healthy sort of comfort. It was something that comforted people in a way that just cemented them further into harming themselves.