I was born the day the 2nd season of the original series premiered. I quit trying to predict what Star Trek will do decades ago. I enjoy what happens as long as I can.

That’s what happens when Brannon Braga isn’t writing the scripts.

Only with this cast I did, because they had all the power this time around.

Not only the dialogue, but the pauses, that are just pregnant with raw emotion. Easily one of the most powerful scenes I’ve ever watched on Star Trek.

This wasn't well written...

Oh yes. This is one of the best scenes Star Trek: Picard has given us so far

The acting in this scene is really good. Picard chose his career over everything else including having a family as he lead a very dangerous life. That`s the price you pay if you choose a career over having a family. You can`t have both at the same time. He made his intentions very clear to Beverley that he wasn`t a family man and that his career came before anything else.

@Lepol Hart bullshit. She was wrong, period. Another fine example of how we don't hold our women accountable for their actions. They will never reach their full potential if we keep it up.

@@mwfmtnman I agree that women should be held accountable for their actions and Beverley paid the price as well in not telling Picard about his son as her son grew up without a father. It`s the woman that gets to decide at the end of the day who to have children with and if she does fall pregnant whether or not to bring that child up with the father as the woman carries the child and gives birth then raises the child as women are the nurturers. Picard lead a very dangerous life and if it had been known he had a son, then his son`s life would have been in danger as well. Beverley done the right thing to protect her son which was her priority not to protect the interests of the father of her child.

@@lepolhart3242 disagree.

TNG did her a disservice. It's clear from this that she's a great actress. This was superb work.

She had to come back this the best she's ever been.

I agree. Her acting was amazing

She is wonderful. How I have missed this cast.

@@countroshculla it’s brilliant to see her in live action again. So much so after 25 years. What a scene.

Really? Way to go Dr crusher.

Well she is the “Dancing Doctor” 😅

@@jasongradyphstiger6179when she is working in choreography, she uses her first name of Cheryl for her credits. Gates is her middle name and is used for her acting credits. There are some per-release articles and media from 1987 that list her as “Cheryl McFadden as ‘Dr Crusher”.

​@@metropodgreat history, and probably wise of her to use the two names

I loved the Muppets

Forgotten love? Hardly. Picard has been wondering for a long time what he did wrong by this point.

​@@Ares99999yes, forgotten love. You can know someone but after a long time, the love changes and can fade from what it was before.

Total nonsense. He is an actor.

This is not Picard but a robot.

@@johnpglackin345 Picard in a synthetic android body that allows him to still feel motions the same as an ordinary human being.

@@danielhaire6677 an artificial being cannot feel emotions.

@@johnpglackin345 Why? In TNG, the scientist who invented the android developed a means for them to have emotions a long way back in the series. Why wouldn't a more advanced body with an individual's mind transferred to it have issues with feelings?

@@danielhaire6677 because it's unrealistic. And you can't transfer someone's soul into a robot. It's perversion.

took, not toke

@@SR-iy4gg Thank you.

Agreed, also Patrick Stewart was fantastic, that look on his face said a thousand words and conveyed his anger, shock & disappointment all in one go. If looks could kill.

Are you people serious? She can barely even have a facial expression with whatever she did to her face.

Chill with the awards. Every youtube video, its ".Lets give X woman a reward.." At this point it means nothing.

@@LuisRodz87 If she didn't do that to her face, she would not be there and you would not see her at all. That's not her fault. That it ruins her acting is also not true.

Wow, what a scene. That should have had a very lofty award.

Total nonsense. They arw actors and do what they are told for money.

​@@Ein_Kunde_don't be silly

Are the first 2 seasons that bad?

@@felixcolon599 yes.

@@felixcolon599 yes.

​@@felixcolon599 I don't think they're that bad.

@@RyanSellman1 Compared to the CW, sure

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Typical woman apparently. Even 350 years in the future, they still insist on not telling the father the truth.

I didn't know about her parents. That adds a whole new element to her decision as well as her pain

Wesley is time travelling

@@jameschou7342 And as such, she lost him.

@@JKeats82 higher plane of existence. At least he can stop by to hang out with Jack if they do the new TV show.

She is an egoist. All about ME ME ME and what IIIII lost.

What the? That's the worst logic ever. This whole story on a illogical idea? I hope not.

​@@IronMan-wz8dx Maybe you just don't understand so I'll explain it to you. Beverly was winding down her starfleet career and knew she could chill with her child. Jean luc wasn't even close to done with starfleet as he was trying to save BILLIONS of romulans from the romulan supernova while being chased by assassins and almost being murdered every other day. If they knew he had a son then she wouldn't be able to keep him safe. But without him knowing then the kid can be safe.

@@olaminabryan8026 I guess Ill give it some weight but sad to say the other members of starfleet in positions of power. Not only that but the additional child support from starfleet. I know I'm trying to bring it down to the present but that's also in line with what they have done. The son that doesn't know his father until he's older. We'll see how the rest of the story ties in.

@Iron Man I wasn't justifying Beverly's actions but the acting and writing in this one scene was perfect. Oscar worthy acting in this scene

@@IronMan-wz8dx Well, if Picard knew of his kid, he would have ended up as bad as Raffi is, because she gave up a husband and son the moment she stepped on the Verity to help the Romulan evacuation. He would have lost a ship and failed a mission, and probably triggered war with the Romulan Star Empire, on top of the impending supernova. Do not forget, Spock acted to contain the damage from the same supernova after it happened. A war would have meant he would not be anywhere near able to contain the fallout, which meant that many more worlds would have burned, and far more lives lost.

Not always. Ignoring fear is just another extreme.

People don't change that much. She was right.

​@@littlebitofhope1489 in hindsight to the rest of the episode she screwed Jack and Picard up with her action

@@chuchulainn9275 Nobody said to ignore it, they said the CONFRONT it.

@@littlebitofhope1489 No she wasn't. She fucked up big time.

I love it when shows/movies do that. It always makes you wonder who's going to speak first, only to realize that they were never not speaking.

For once the writers seem to know about the power of silence 👍

I sure hope so because it doesn't look good for her.

I largely agree. Lets break it down again. Would Picard permanently retire and be a family man? How do we know that people still wouldn't come after him even in retirement? (He had ex Tal Shiar agents living full time in his house for this very reason) If he was still commissioned in Starfleet, would he be ok having a detached relationship with his son while taking big risks? (Like Kirk and his son) Now looking at it from a world building view, there is a reason why starfleet ships don't have families on them anymore. We can see this viscerally when Captain Sisko loses his wife Jennifer in the battle of Wolf 359. SISKO WAS GOING TO RESIGN OVER THE DEATH OF HIS WIFE AND THE NEAR LOSS OF HIS SON. Hell the only reason Sisko and O'brian had their families on DS9 was because it was assumed that station life would have been slower and less dangerous. Little did they know DS9 would be a centerpiece to the Dominion War. The peaceful era of the mid 24th century, heralded by the hotelesque Galaxy Class is over. The Post-Dominion War / Post-Romulan Empire galaxy is a far more dangerous place now. Starfleet isn't a place to raise a family anymore. Would you want to raise a family on a fleet flagship, with a man who is the face of starfleet, and dealing with the "adventure of the week" constantly threatening to end him and your family? Im never going to argue that what Beverly did WASN'T fucked up. What she did certainly was. It is absolutely not fair that she made the decision for him. She did not give him a chance. But I'm not going to argue that her logic and her fears are utterly invalid like many people are.

No, I totally disagree with you about Beverly. As she said and listed out the important people in her lives that she lost while serving in Starfleet, exposing and revealing that she had a son with Picard would have exposed both of them to the most extreme dangers! She did consider trying to reach out to him at several times, but at every turn, Picard was being thrown into one galactic crisis after another. And that sealed her decision to remain in exile and separated from her old friends, but with the literal deadly secret of her son in her old age!

She's had 20 years to rationalize, she's gotten good at it.

Sorry but I dont buy this explanation, unless is there something more, its simply poor writing and poor rip off of Star trek II scene with Kirk and Carol. I would maybe believe that if she was not itself a starfleet officer, head of starfleet medical, chief of medical officer on Enterprise for about 20 years! She was same targed as him because she was hell of expert in her field, she was involved in lot of cover starfleet operations, danger operations, she knew the risks and she know Picard for about 20 years. She was no Carol Marcus at this point.

Especially since the notion she could protect Jack from all dangers evidently turned out to be a pipe dream. As much as a son of Jean-Luc Picard might have had a target on his back, he'd also have plenty of support watching said back.

Picard, my father, Jack Picard, uss Melbourne

I agree. Had she actually talked to him at the time about her fears they might have found a way to overcome them. She was in the wrong.

no its not.

As is tradition.

That monster can ruin ANYTHING!

'You should eat Haaaaaaryyyy!!!'

At least Kirk knew he had a son. Their son was the one who didn't know Kirk was his dad.

Actually, this was done even better. I like Dr. Crusher’s point of view. It’s a great argument between 2 people who genuinely care about each other.

@@Mokkari77 You're the second person I've seen make that claim that Kirk knew. I don't understand why, since that was a huge important scene in that movie, was Kirk finding out he had a GROWN son, that he never got to know existed. Kirk was not given a choice. I'm genuinely curious why several people are remembering it differently from how I remember it went.

@@Marialla. Because Kirk asks Carol "Is that David?" After the young man who just attacked him called her "mother". Then later when he's alone with her Kirk says "I did what you wanted. I stayed away. Why didn't you tell him?" And if he didn't know he'd be outraged like Picard instead of feeling sad that his son tried to kill him.

Incredible observation. You think maybe this season is influenced by WoK?!

THAT is a legitimate argument. Still, she made a huge error, but fear makes people irrational. It doesn't excuse her, but it does EXPLAIN her.

No, no amount of excuses can ever make Beverly out to be heroic or offer justification.

She's still wrong. She denied him his voice and the opportunity to have a life watching his son grow. Crusher gets NO pass on this. Her reasons were selfish, his were not. Don't justify her character's outrageous behavior.

I found her reply admirably restrained. I certainly understand his anger, but the fact that his first thought is about himself and his rights rather than their child and its safety kind of makes her point.

@@Scipio488 So, if a mother feels justified (for reasons true or not), the father can be cut out with no moral responsibility and denying someone their voice. Got it. Very progressive.

And yet, she cut him out and Jack was STILL a target. Big "oof" on her part.

It makes her into a coward. Beverly Crusher was fearless. Shes a howard, not a coward. This is how she treats her BEST FRIEND?? what an awful character destruction.

Yep I felt the scene. As soon as he said “you don’t get…” I though OH this 100% fucking Jean Luc Picard.

We saw Picard the past two episodes. Why are you gonna "come out and say it" based on this scene like it's some special announcement?

@@pderham26 Because it is special. He was tenacious here because it was about him at a core that he never knew.

"I'm beginning to see a pattern here..."

And he could of learned that point 20 years sooner.

A question do you think would be acceptable for a man to keep some secret like from his wife/girlfriend? What would we say if the shoe were on the other foot and it was Picard making decisions about Beverly Crusher and whether or not she should know that she has a son(I realize that biology renders such a question mote, but still consider it hypothetically)

And yet, Jack's wanted and hunted. How'd that turn out.

@@jamesmartin9401 Hmm. Maybe it really is genetics :)

This isn't an arc. This is part of one.

The whole scenario feels intentionally derivative, it'd be not so bad if we hadn't already had so much of that from Star Trek in the past 20 years with both Nemesis and Into Darkness. They've also laying on the nostalgia as thick as possible, you just know we're going to be seeing all those old ships when Frontier Day comes. That said, at least the writing has improved.

Nothing wrong with riffing off the best, if you can elevate it with your own contribution. WoK is my favorite Trek movie, but it never had a scene this deep and raw between Kirk and Carol Marcus.

I think that they were going more for "Best of Both Worlds" with the ship and (Picard & Friends in particular) being hunted by a vastly superior foe who outclass them in just about every way with the nebula simply buying them time. The 1st episode even used Picard's audio logs from that TNG episode.

@@danieldickson8591 That's a good point. For me it felt a little overly derivative but I'm open to seeing where it goes, and I'm liking the broader plot of this season.

@@deinekes9 Hadn't thought of that. The thing with both ships plus the previously-unknown son does make me think WoK more.

That was a powerful moment

Agreed. The rest of the series is mediocre at best.

Well acted, great dialogue, disastrous for the characters though. Changing how the audiences feels about them, and has long term implications that reveals internal flaws and a weak internal moral compass. Also, revealing the willingness to betray someone you loved at a massive level. It ruins Beverly's character, no matter if you sympathize with her motives. She didn't get to make that choice. The special connection you saw between them in TNG, the respect, kindness and depth. It showed she was selfish and felt justified to do it, and that bedrock of that relationship was a lie. Zero moral discomfort with taking his voice and his opportunity to have the family he yearned for. TNG is tainted now, knowing Beverly betrayed Picard and tried to gaslight him it's his fault. Terrible decision to reveal a betrayal like this which damages the character's moral center. Ugh. The 24th century still has people that feel entitled to deny their children the other parent for selfish motives. Wonderfully optimistic NuTrek. Thanks. I guess S2 is still ok for Dr. Pulaski.

happens every single day multitudes of time in family court... go sit in on your local family court and watch for a few days. you'll see some of the best acting from women like dr beverly in action.

That's why many call it The Love Boat.

Great acting, bad writing(?), main problem of this show, that they don't take in consideration whole personality of Beverly during TNG or TNG movie era. Sure there was not much of characterization during this era, however, she was chief medical officer on board of flagship for 20 years, i think she was also head of starfleet medical in some point. She highly decorated officer and expert in her field. She was as much big name in Federation or Starfleet as Picard himself. So i dont buy her points. Also her husband die more than 20 years ago, she did not lost Wesley, he simply grew up and what he did or become is his personal choice. And she cut everyone for 20 years. Unless there is different reason for this, this is terrible writing from ST:Picard writing room...

Not to mention one of the first examples being in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan when Kirk finds out that his old girlfriend had his son, David, and never told him. Than of course David, unfortunately, dies trying to save Spock.

@@danielkubin3878 Her husband died 20 years ago? You're not talking about Jack are you because he died a lot longer than 20 years ago. Wesley was a little kid when they found out. She was married to Picard about 30 years ago though. And in a way she did lose Wesley because, like The Travelers, he's phasing in and out of the space and time and traveling places further than anyone could imagine only coming back for Nemesis and ST: Picard. Beverly is his mother and she doesn't get to see him so I think for her it feels like a loss. That's just my guess though. 🤷🏻‍♀

@@JustTanya.Kirk knew he had a son. But he and Carol decided it was best that Kirk not be part of his life.

@@danielkubin3878even you buy her reasons for cutting Picard out of her life, it made no sense why she cut ties with everyone else.

Yup. She goes way past wrong. She CHOSE to betray him. She took his voice, his power of agency and ability to grow and make different choices. Then, she gaslights him. Her character, for what seemed like a moral compass in TNG. NuTrek has made her Amber Heard. Gaslighting and excuses, it was his fault she didn't tell him. She was justified. I hate her guts. This is not the future Star Trek is supposed to embody, marginalizing and taking people's voices away when they had a right to know.

@@zoso1980 this, unfortunately, is the future of feminism.

I think him having a son without the Picard name is a tradeoff he is more than willing to live with.

Yes the lack of music can give more atmosphere, I only wish more directors would realise this.

But that process started in TNG Season 1 when Wesley was too young to make that decision. Watch "Where No One Has Gone Before" and you see the Traveler privately bedazzle Picard into becoming his accomplice in promoting Wesley's super-being future. The Traveler even advises Picard to not tell "the mother". It's compounded with Beverly taking a different job the next year and expecting Wesley to join her, except Picard accepts this child's request to stay on the ship and be mentored by Picard and his crew. By the time Beverly returns to the Enterprise (giving up her promotion to get her old job back and accommodate the acting ensign opportunity Wesley could have under no one but Picard), Wesley is more under Picard's influence than his mother's. It's problematic.

​@@MagicAl5F4781 Exactly, well said.

He explained that to Troi, who no doubt kept it under counselor/patient confidentiality.

She did something horrible, but I think it was out of genuine fear.

@@junbh2 That doesn't excuse it, and she gaslights him that she was justified without a hint of moral discomfort makes me look at her the same way I see Amber Heard. That respect, character and bond the TNG crew had with each other, the writers tossed. Beverly became a symbol for modern feminism that, "men don't matter," because I say so. Yuck. Bad play NuTrek.

​@@zoso1980manosphere bollocks. This is what happens when you write characters with flaws. They don't always make the right decision

@@ralalbatross Brilliant. A Nutrekker excusing rubbish writing and Maury Povich style 21st Century tropes. Good on you. Nice misandry, too, noticed that in your viewpoint too. Picard and his needs didn't matter, only Beverly's sketchy behavior. Trek is supposed to be above that, you know? That better future that we BY CHOICE choose to not hurt each other. We have compassion for each other. Guess you missed that. I'd expect that in a activist type Nutrekker. Your internal 'people can hurt each other and, men deserve it' is high grade Amber Heard style 21st century trash. Shame on you for your contribution of low grade intellectual trash diminishing a core tenant of TNG Trek. It betrayed Beverly's character and her established morals. The writing and changing of the character and her personal ethos was trash, is trash and is not about about "right decisions." It's about willfull hurting of another, which Beverly of TNG would not do. But, defend it Amber. Let your misandry defend marginalizing men. Your defense of it just highlights your intellectual issues that you don't "get" TNG Trek and your apparent agreeing that Beverly was justified in lying and being skeevy in a 21st century way. Nothing to do with "manosphere." It has every thing to do with how we treat each other. Be better, do better. TNG Trek tried to show that. You missed the lesson obviously.

Trek TNG was mostly techno babble and very thin on real deep character. Here the writers went into the Challenger Deep with the characters!

@@oculosprudentium8486 You missed the point on Trek TNG completely.

I disagree, if I wanted to watch "conflict" I would watch Pretty Little Liars; I prefer TNG because there was little personal drama...

Roddenberrys idea was to minimize crew conflict. These were supposed to be near utopian humans living in near paradise. The writers hated it.

@@peeweeson Agreed. There was a modicum of respect, professionalism and family. They worked together and treated each other well, become a family of sorts. You aspired to work in a place where people worked together like that. Fast-forward to this rubbish. Betrayal, hurt, denying people their right to know things. This doesn't inspire you, or make you like them. Beverly is Amber Heard, gaslighting Picard that the fact she erased him and never told him was justified because of who he was. Taking no ownership of the betrayal. I loathe Beverly now. These aren't characters you like or relate to anymore. As far as I'm concerned NuTrek ruined Beverly's character. She betrayed him, and no amount of gaslighting will change that.

I see your point. But I see Beverly's. She lost everything. Everything that was dear to her to the stars. And as much as she loved him, Jean-Luc represented those stars. And after knowing Jean-Luc for 40 years, Beverly knows who Picard is. And him having a child could not only put a target on that child's back, but the possibility of Jean-Luc having resentment for losing those stars he loved so much. And in her mind, she could not risk that. And I don't blame her. The difference is Jean-Luc willing sacrificed everything for the stars. Beverly was never as enamored as Jean-Luc was with Starfleet or the adventure.

@@vapsa56 I dont agree. She was also starfleet officer as he was, she was highly decorated officer, chief medical officer of Federation flagship for 20 years, she was also a commanding officer. She knew risks when she wed Jack and she was part of this dangerous missions herself. She did not lost Wesley, he grew up as everybody, what happen after was his decision, and she should accept this, be happy for him what he achieved. And she was as much big name in Starfleet/Federation as Picard hilmself. So no, I don buy this, it was selfish from her side and did not make much sense that she had so little faith in him after more than 20 years of friendship. Even Carol Marcus had decency to tel Kirk about his son and it was mutural decision probably that he was not invoved in David life. So no, unless there is bigger reason why she cut off everyone, this is horseship from from writers of STP.

@@vapsa56 Why would he "lose the stars"? She had her first child along traveling the stars. And the whole "target on the child's back" is neither here nor there. As it turns out, Jack has a target on his back anyway. The difference is - had his full parentage been known, he'd have had the whole gang holding his back all those years already.

yeah this season he does sound more like tng his voice is even more powerful like it used to be

That's two washout kids to her name.

It’s very refreshing.