Aviator Inspirations I’m considering Brampton but let’s see what else the future holds!

I started at 16yrs old at my local flight school

For highschool graduates its Seneca #1 then Waterloo#2 and Mount Royal university #3 I think....

I hear good things about Seneca and you can get your training subsidized by the Ontario government, so that’s a huge plus. Waterloo I haven’t met anyone who went there so can’t comment, and Mount Royal is associated with westjet so also reputable. All great choices👍🏻

Does any Canadian Airline provide Cadetship Pilot Training program through which you get directly recruited as an FO in the airline after the training program?

You’re welcome, glad it helped 🙂

Thanks for the support!

Glad it helped! That’s definitely something to consider, is why wait for the program when you can train modular right away and be finished in 12-18 months at another school that’s less busy.

Nishant Desai, EXACTLY!! Although a lot of schools in Canada will trick you by saying that they are less expensive to train than the United States, this is *PATENTLY FALSE.* Canada is a sort of a socialist country with huge monopolies everywhere. In Canada, there is very little competition, and the government creates huge barriers for anyone wanting to start things like flight schools, for example. This results in these schools, being able to charge you whatever they want. Second, there are all kinds of taxes in Canada HST, GST. If they could, they would even tax the air that you breathe!! This also dramatically increases the cost!! How do I know all of this?? I am actually going through this experience right now!! Luckily for me, I just moved to Canada (for other reasons), and already got my PPL in Northern California (where I'm from). I was also lucky to find a great flying club, well outside the San Francisco bay area, and it was extremely cheap (both the instructor rates and the airplane rentals). I was able to do a lot of cross country hours (I now have around 270+ hours, even completed my 300NM commercial xcountry), and am about to do my instrument checkride, at the same school. If I would have done all of this in Canada, it would have easily cost me 25% to 30% MORE, even at the least expensive schools there!!!! (note that there is not much difference in cost *_between schools,_* in Canada, like there is in the US, because of the lack of competition). In the US, there may be one school that charges an arm and a leg, and another one that's really inexpensive (depending on location etc.). If you do your research really well, you can get an extremely good deal, as I got!! Now, unfortunately, since I'm in the process of moving to Canada at this time, I have to get my CPL and CFI in Canada, but since I have all of my hours built up, 80% of the process (and the associated cost) is done with. So what's left is about 12K - 14K $CAD more of training! (would have cost around $7K - 9K USD if I had done it at my original school in California). That's just a couple thousand more. If I had done all my training and hour building in Canada, it would have easily cost me around an extra $10K or more USD!!!

747-Pilot, thanks a lot for your valuable information and sharing your experience! I agree with you and from my own experience I see that I end up spending a lot more as classes become counterproductive at times due to the huge gaps between the flight lessons. I’m contemplating going to the USA for the reminder of my flight training if this weather persists. Thanks again my friend:)

@@747-pilot The problem is everyone in Canada wants to live in the same cities which means airports are getting replaced with houses and you're competing with 1/6th of the potential students in the country for space

@@pilotnishantdesai9312 Your comment earlier has left me confused. I never thought of any other flight school except for Aus and CAN. Most people tell me that you have to go to either Australia or Canada if you're to become a pilot in the future but when I look at the training costs in both countries, it tremendously HIGH! So, I just want to ask any flight schools in Florida or Texas are cheaper than CAN/AUS?

You’re welcome😁

I’ve heard of them but don’t know them personally. Check out my video on how to pick a flight school👍🏻

Yes, there is a company called Aero Course, and it’s a course that prepares you for the ATPL exams once you have 750hrs.

Any hours in any airplane where you are the PIC count 👍🏻

That’s the million dollar question, I’m sure the companies would also like to know! My prediction is no more than 3-5yrs if there is a big marketing push, or if there is another recession it could stop overnight if airlines stop hiring or even have to lay off. When I was starting 15yrs ago it was good, then 9/11 happened and the 2008 recession, and I couldn’t get a job with 2200hrs & ATPL. Now pilots are getting onto a Q with 750hrs. My lesson in the aviation industry is to take advantage of the opportunities, because when the going gets tough, it’s going to be really tough! But that’s my opinion only, and you should follow your life goals and ambitions. If post secondary is import to you, and I think it’s a good idea, then definitely pursue it👍🏻

It’s the flight schools responsibility to get you ready. However, Cullhaines study books are a great source of information and practice exams👍🏻

Yup 👍🏻 That’s what most people do. Work to pay for flight training and fly as much as you can. I would recommend saving in chunks, like save $12k to do your PPL, then save another chunk for the CPL etc, otherwise if you only fly once a week your progress will be very slow. Also consider taking a low interest loan towards the end so you can finish quicker and get your first flying job.

@@AviatorInspirations Would air steward be good for flight hours or would that not count?

No, working in the back of the airplane does not count as flight hours.

@@AviatorInspirations Fair enough. It was a dumb question tbh

@@smudgerbugg lol it's all good, we're all here to learn :)

Yes, check out my latest video of training in 2020

Few know this but I have my AME diploma (not licenses tho) as my post secondary. It helped me in the lower levels as a flight instructor and charter pilot, where I would make extra money wrenching during inspections at the AMO. It also helped knowing more about the airplane, so for smaller companies that skill was an asset. At the airlines and bigger companies this had zero bearing. You are hired as a pilot and that’s all you are trained to do. Our elementary training is a joke at how limited we are in that regard, as I’m sure you know. So the answer to your question, you will be a huge asset to small companies if you are a pilot & AME in one. At large companies your diploma will simply satisfy a check box during your application. What you use to ask yourself is how far up the pilot ladder you want to climb (check out my pilot pay video if you haven’t already).

Aviator Inspirations thank you!!

Check out my latest video about training in 2020! I do my personal analysis on the industry in Canada for the next decade

Which airlines did you check? As far as I’m aware only air canada requires a degree, no other company in Canada requires post secondary.

@@AviatorInspirations True, Air Georgian too, maybe more i didn't search too much... Anyway, keep doing vids they are very helpful 👍

Modular pilot training

Yes if you just want a piece of paper that says “post secondary” and kill 2 birds with one stone, but no in every other aspect. It’s a useless diploma with which you cannot do anything in the real world with. I would much more advise people to get a real diploma in business then an aviation diploma. My post secondary is in aircraft maintenance from BCIT, a useful skill that has helped me a lot in my career. Personally I dislike spending money on something that’s worth nothing, like an aviation diploma. But again just my opinion, there are definitely sound reasons to take it.

Any course you can afford and get accepted to, there is no “best” course

They are one of the popular ones, yes.

Aviator Inspirations thanks for your reply

yes I have the same question.

Hello! Thanks for reaching out Carlos. I have a Patreon account for anyone who wants 1on1 mentoring and to talk to me personally about their career. www.patreon.com/AviatorInspirations If you are not quite ready to join the Patreon family, you can find a ton of free value on my KZfaq channel and Instagram. I get many messages each day and unfortunately I can’t give everyone a personalized coaching session, I hope you understand. I hope to see you in the Patreon chat room! All the best, Yaro

Yes it is. Pros and cons to both paths, so it depends on finances and how motivated you are to study

Check out my video on how to pick a flight school 👍🏻

which school did you enroll in? is Toronto Airways any good?

@@farhadnejadbagheri2230 I did and my experience wasn't too good. It's pretty pricey compared to the other schools and I had a few bottlenecks but that's just my experience can't say it's the same for everyone.

@@derrickinyangala2620 hey what course did you do at Toronto airways? What kind of bottlenecks did you experience if you could please share 🙏🏼

In Canada they don’t, but in other countries they might, so it depends on each individuals ambition and budget

Oh awesome! I have the same diploma 😀 and yes it will most definitely help you get the first job. Small companies love when they can use you for both, although sometimes they will make you wrench more than fly as it’s a more desirable skill, but still. In terms of the career, it will only help to show you have post secondary when you later apply for the airlines, and that’s about it. It won’t help you be a better pilot or anything like that, as later down the road having technical experience doesn’t translate in operating the aircraft as pilot skills and decision making skills are different. It will help with system knowledge when learning a new airplane, but pilots are trained to action the correct checklist and not diagnose the problem as you do on the maintenance side.

@@AviatorInspirations Wow you were a tech too! Very glad I found your channel my friend. I'm moving to Vancouver next year for my new career and you are helping me tons already. Please keep up & I really appreciate your work :)

No, a recreational pilot permit is for hobbyists, if you want to fly as a career you can get your PPL at 16, and start training as early as 14. If you start early there is no reason to do the integrated program, because you can finish your training before 18 anyway if you start early enough. Then go to university after high school if you wish, or do online study while finding your first job

Thank you so much!

Hello! Yes anything is possible if you work hard, and once your English improves you can teach in Canada. There are other barriers tho, like getting a work visa to work in Canada, or having a flight school sponsor you to teach. I would talk to the flight schools first, and see what options they can give you.

@@AviatorInspirations Thank you for the answer. Safe flight!

Yes there are, but not many, so do your research about what’s currently available 👍🏻

I’m not sure, that would be a good question for the flight schools

@@AviatorInspirations thank you for ur reply

Probably

It depends how the program is setup. Most programs are done in stages, so you have to pass each stage before moving on to the next, and if you fail you repeat that stage. Same with flight training. However, some schools are so busy that if you don’t keep up you fail out and have to re-enroll again, that’s why integrated training isn’t for everyone

Yes it’s very structured and transport Canada approved👍🏻

@@AviatorInspirations what should I do next to be able to join flight school? I've graduated from my high school and pass the qualification for flight school intake.

Contact the flight school and start training 👍🏻

Check out my international pilot training video👍🏻

Thanks brother

@@swarnsingh4948 hlo brother, have you started pilot training in canada?

I don’t do any personal mentorship, but if you watch through my channel I have all the steps lined out 🙂

Check out my pilot pay video, it will help explain the ladder pilots have to climb in North America. But basically you won’t get into air canada until you have thousands of hours, and either a work visa or permanent residence in Canada. Good luck in your training👍🏻

@@AviatorInspirations I've completed I-ATPL training in BC, now has 6000+hrs in part 121/135（mostly built abroad）, and now applying for instructor rating, planning to fly as CFI for a living . is that possible that i can fly at ur right seat?

If your hours are recognized in Canada then yes, you should be able to get a job at a regional quite quickly! If not, then just build a 1000hrs as a CFI and then apply👍🏻

Aviator Inspirations thanks for the reply ,that’s really helpful.wish I can see you in person once I got my training started.😉

You never know, aviation is a small world👍🏻

I only have a diploma and it hasn’t slowed me down

Aviator Inspirations thank you for the quick response? I am planning to start in January do you know anyone who went to waterloo flying center? Or have you heard about them?

I’ve heard of them, don’t know anyone that went there. Decent school I believe

To get a job in Canada you will need a work visa, unless the flight school has a program where they sponsor you to get a job.

My flight school does provides pgwp (post graduate work permit) an open work permit after completion of cpl ! So then would i get a chance to work ? But sir only to the length of my studies in canada like as i have chosen one year program so i'll only get work permit for one year !

@@pilotaj1369 hlo have you got instructor job in canada? How can i contact you from any social media?

I have a whole video on that, check my Learn to Fly playlist👍🏻

No limit, as long as it’s correctable to 20/20 you’re good to go. Of course if you have any doubts, getting your cat1 medical would be wise👍🏻

@@AviatorInspirations , Thankyou!

Hello! If you watch my International Pilot Training video, I give more information there for international students 👍🏻

@@AviatorInspirations ok thanks pilot❤️

Check out my pilot pay episode for pay details.

In the description box

If you are an international student, check out my international pilot training video 👍🏻 but yes, as part of your student visa application you have to show that you have all the funds to finish all your training.

I have a whole video dedicated to international students, so check it out! You basically only have the option of the curriculum the school offers for international students.

@@AviatorInspirations I think international student should take modular program because they have time to take a part-time job while the training. Is it right?

To get a student visa you need to be enrolled in a designated program, and modular training doesn’t count.

@@AviatorInspirations But I have called up some flight schools and it seems that there are international students enrolled in the modular program. Now, I presume these students have been granted the study visa. By designated program, can I add modular flight packages offered by some schools? Harv air offers this instructor package which contains PPL, CPL, Multi IFR, and CFI for 60 grand. Is this considered as a designated program?

Modular

Good luck!!

@@AviatorInspirations Thank You!

Good idea! Do you have experience with their program?

@@AviatorInspirations recieved acceptance on Friday. Excited to start with the second batch ever starting May 2023

@@AviatorInspirations sending you a dm on IG. Tell you all about it

Amazing, good luck!!