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Pioneer DJ CDJ-3000 Review - Every Feature In Detail + Full Demo

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Digital DJ Tips

Digital DJ Tips

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The most comprehensive review of the new Pioneer DJ CDJ-3000 on KZfaq.
00:00 Intro to the CDJ-3000
01:53 First Impressions
09:25 Setting Up the CDJ-3000
11:37 Screen Overview
13:27 Screen - Library Functions
22:35 Screen - Short Cut Menu
23:40 Screen - Waveforms
26:37 Screen - Touch Preview & Touch Cue
30:22 Hot Cues & Hot Loops
33:09 Slip Mode
36:01 Beat Jump & Beat Loop
38:08 Key, Key Shift & Key Sync
43:40 Sound Quality
44:25 Utility Menu
47:01 Jogwheel Displays
48:38 CDJ-3000 Conclusion
In this detailed, hour-long Pioneer DJ CDJ-3000 review, talkthrough and demo, learn about the new Pioneer DJ CDJ-3000 media player.
Discover all the new features like the screen, key sync, beat jump, the new hot cues, changes to the jogwheels, library improvements and more. and learn what it HAS got... and what it hasn't that we think it should. At the end, we give you our view on whether it's a winner or not...
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@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Read our comprehensive review of the CDJ-3000: www.digitaldjtips.com/reviews/pioneer-dj-cdj-3000/ Watch the James Hype CDJ-3000 performance livestream: djtips.co/james-hype-live
@borat11
@borat11 3 жыл бұрын
@Digital DJ Tips I added my comments below
@borat11
@borat11 3 жыл бұрын
@Digital DJ Tips here is what I'm missing the most: 1. "current track played ID, easy broadcast to OBS stream DJs 2. Water/Dust proof improvement's 3. Open source Rekordbox/XDJ options for "add-ons", like PioDj "vst" 4. Official discord for @Pioneer DJ "fans", to collect real info from real people for real innovations 5. Generally lack of innovations: you put a processor in CDJ with lots of power, but not utilizing it fully 6. How about "crash reports" via internet directly to @Pioneer DJ support 7. Stop commenting officially from @Pioneer DJ support on "current track played ID" solution: "put a GoPro above CDJ's LCD screens" 8. Open source the @Pioneer DJ pro-link for 3rd party "add-ons" 9. If @Pioneer DJ plays the "I'm dominant in the DJ equipment area", will stop the innovation approach 10. All above will be scrapped by @DJ Mag top100 DJ's, as they are "addicted" to @Pioneer DJ, due clubs/vanues has over stockpile of @Pioneer DJ equipment, Sad Thanks for reading
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Cool :)
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Don't want much then 😅
@auralxtc
@auralxtc 3 жыл бұрын
@@amritabhaktas You've always been able to play unanalyzed files - all the way back to the 2000 when Rekordbox was introduced - you just loose all of the waveform and quantization benefits that you get by processing your files.
@pompeyjim
@pompeyjim 3 жыл бұрын
I said this on another channel but.... 4 decks of Denon Sc6000 = £2500, 4 decks of Cdj3000 = £8800
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Sure but a lot of DJs don't actually like dual layers, if the new unit we've seen is indeed a control for it then it seems Denon acknowledge that
@LukT95
@LukT95 3 жыл бұрын
Digital DJ Tips I don‘t think this is a valid excuse for not having dual-deck capability. Sure, working with dual deck is kind of messy. But it is not that you are getting your arm twisted if you buy 4 Players if this is better for you. People with a moderate budget can get 2+2 standalone decks for a reasonable price - all others can buy 4 players. So what is the problem having dual deck capability?
@pompeyjim
@pompeyjim 3 жыл бұрын
@@LukT95 spot on mate. Seems pioneers decision is $$$$$ based
@D1CE579
@D1CE579 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed I would hate to use dual player in a club..
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Of course it makes sense from a business point of view as well, no denying that
@DekriteN09
@DekriteN09 3 жыл бұрын
These players with their overall functionality and screens could be such a great product in 2017 But in september 2020 they already look and feel old
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
On getting them out of the box? We thought exactly that. But having DJed on them for a few days, we realised that they actually make CDJ DJing fun, in a way it wasn't before (for us), because they feel much closer to controller DJing. That's worth a lot.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help :)
@Chuggnuts
@Chuggnuts 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips jesus are you paid by Pioneer, you can get that feel and more for nearly £1000 less per deck. They ARE a controller, a ridiculously expensive and not market leading one.
@RaquelFoster
@RaquelFoster 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chuggnuts What is the actual real-world benefit to using Denon? What is the feature you actually use? Or are you just trying to take a political stance against Pioneer's monopoly? Because you're actually a working DJ then you're only making your life harder by not keeping your music collection inside the Pioneer ecosystem.
@Chuggnuts
@Chuggnuts 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaquelFoster in general, recently Denon have offered more features, for a better price. It's not just the sc6000 Vs cdj3000 either, it's the same with cheaper products. I can't deny that I strongly dislike pioneers monopoly because I don't think it's healthy for anyone except Pioneer, but the cdj3000 is almost offensively arrogant towards potential customers if you ask me, is there any reason for them to be nearly £1000 more than the competition? I do have to say that it's entirely possible to avoid using cdjs though, it's not true that you HAVE to, although I once did buy a pair of cdjs when 1210's started becoming rarer in booths just because I felt I HAD to and I instantly regretted it (and went down the controller route instead, fortunately cdjs had gone up in price so I didn't lose a penny...) The sc6000 will read and analyse recordbox usb's so that's one benefit of having them in clubs, pioneers ecosystem is not so flexible.
@Anis-gs7sv
@Anis-gs7sv 3 жыл бұрын
end of the CDJ era for me. Denon is the new King!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Anis
@RacoonAndres
@RacoonAndres 3 жыл бұрын
same
@ollieo7038
@ollieo7038 3 жыл бұрын
These aren't players made for consumer djs / for high assistance djing. They're made for world touring djs who are used to pioneer and can't be bothered to learn anything new. They'll reign supreme as long as that remains the case & as long as they're on tech riders. Doesn't really make sense to judge Cdjs at a consumer level - you want continuity at the club level - imagine if every club opted for a different set up, it would just be a nightmare.
@Anis-gs7sv
@Anis-gs7sv 3 жыл бұрын
Ots O oh sure but things can change especially if those dj’s as well go to Denon as I see lately.
@ollieo7038
@ollieo7038 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anis-gs7sv find it unlikely that the majority of the industry will move to denon. Most clubs stock pioneer by default and i dont see them buying double the gear for a minority of djs.
@andyb311
@andyb311 3 жыл бұрын
So many people commenting on their dissatisfaction of the cdj3000 and of pioneer in general. People saying it's too little too late etc. What is it that you really need? Are all these functions that you're so upset aren't included really functions that you would use and need? I'm not a massively complex DJ, so maybe I don't need the functionality that is apparently missing here. They look awesome. Yes they are very expensive, but this isn't really aimed at bedroom djs. There are loads of controllers in the range from the ddj 400 through the all in one xdjxz. The Denon fans are so quick to scrap anything pioneer releases, and it's just the same as the age old Mac Vs PC debate. If you like the Denon more, great! If you like pioneer more, great. The truth is that these will be in all decent clubs (or at least the vast majority) and Denon will not be the club standard in the foreseeable future. That is the main reason why I won't be shifting to denon and investing in the whole engine ecosystem any time soon but I will never say never!. Thanks for the in depth review Phil. But what an unfortunate time to release this unit!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Can't agree more about the timing - you had us at "what an unfortunate time"!
@shadie2k
@shadie2k 3 жыл бұрын
I love pioneer but denon absolutely walks all over this more usb inputs multi touch screens ability to store a 2.5 inch ssd drive so basicall have your whole library WiFi enabled so u can get songs from soundcloud beatport & tidal (not that I use them) but its there and it analyses songs in the player not having to go through rekordbox 1st which is a Ballache in its self and it works with every dj software including reckordbox pioneer have literally become the apple of the dj world we as djs waited to see what they come up with to contend with and this is it we as pioneer fans are dissapointed
@prodj.mixapeofficial6431
@prodj.mixapeofficial6431 3 жыл бұрын
why don't you mix on your iphone or something similar, all the basic features are there already. Not too complex it will fit your style.
@DJCasanovaToronto
@DJCasanovaToronto 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadie2k 100%. Outdated and overpriced.... as usual.
@harveyspecter1653
@harveyspecter1653 2 жыл бұрын
Well the reason I bring my Denon set everywhere if clubs or venues won't offer them is mostly the roll/slice stuff which offer a lot more creativity. Also, the mixer offers the filter and effects simultaneously giving you again more creativity. The double layers are interesting too: you sometimes throw in a loop, add an acapella, do some scratching or beat looping/rolling/slicing with the 3rd deck etc. On a Pioneer you'd need at least 3 decks to do that. But what I miss most is on board analysis. I honestly no longer waste too much time prepping sets. I check Beatport, make a list of the tracks I like, I take the set to the venue. If they have WiFi, fine. If not, I use my cell phone as access point and I just stream the tracks directly from beatbort. I know you"ll say; that's not how the pro's work but I don't care. I do of course have a big disk with a lot of new and old tracks as well which are sorted/ordered etc. But still, the WiFi streaming saved me weeks of prepping time. Once you have it you can't miss it anymore. The only reason Pioneer has the market is because DJ's are bloody lazy
@dj-peterofficial2753
@dj-peterofficial2753 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Phil. I think this is one of your best reviews. On point and a really good and detailed explanations of the new features. ...must've been hard to keep a straight face these last few days with all the speculations :) .
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of you to say, glad you liked it! It took a lot of work 😎
@slaterbreaker
@slaterbreaker 3 жыл бұрын
"nothing rattles" That's because there's nothing inside apart from a computer and a cog. That price is insane!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, that's not what we meant! The old jogwheels had pretty noisy bearings in them - they were super hardwearing, but hardly felt refined. That's what has been fixed up here.
@slaterbreaker
@slaterbreaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips I love your videos but the longer this one goes on, the more shocked I am at how far they haven't pushed it!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
@@slaterbreaker Fair enough! Love to know what you think is missing when you've watched the whole thing :)
@neiljohnston6523
@neiljohnston6523 3 жыл бұрын
@Keeny J good points made there, would you not agree Digital DJ Tips... hard to argue hey ?
@neiljohnston6523
@neiljohnston6523 3 жыл бұрын
Also the ability to add an onboard SATA Drive built in, controller support for other software platforms, a motorized version of you want it, really good pitch algorithms.. the list goes on... would you not agree ?
@pk3776
@pk3776 3 жыл бұрын
Denon, ahead ! I’ll stick with my pioneer cdj350’s, basic but still going strong👍
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Your 350's still going strong is one of the reasons people love Pioneer so much 😄
@DeejayPulse
@DeejayPulse 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I still have one of my CDJ-500-II's from 1996 that still works. It was $1600 brand new -- only had looping and Master Tempo, that's pretty much it. Took forever to load, had no anti-skip, but it was amazing.
@samueleide
@samueleide 3 жыл бұрын
I also stick to my 350's, they were great value for the second hand price! Also work as controllers for rekordbox if I want to!
@andyd5455
@andyd5455 3 жыл бұрын
Good review guys! I personally feel they are an improvement to the cdj lineup but could still be improved, Pioneers hardware seems to always go the distance without issues! I’ve been fortunate enough to have both but for now Denon is my weapon of choice. People will buy what appeals to them, good to see both companies switching it up🤙
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback Andy, and it is especially useful as you own both systems.
@ClectaSkiMusic
@ClectaSkiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Its 2AM here & im looking at this.. lolz
@frankygers
@frankygers 3 жыл бұрын
ClectaSkiMusic haha. I’ve just woke up. 8am here and straight in this.
@kells77
@kells77 3 жыл бұрын
8.49 am here
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to keep you up lol
@Duenomusic
@Duenomusic 3 жыл бұрын
1.04am here
@kereamohau
@kereamohau 3 жыл бұрын
I commented on a video a few days back saying "I don't think they will come close to what Denon have brought out lately" I think I was right. It still ain't enough.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it's not for you Kere
@renechang2406
@renechang2406 3 жыл бұрын
& it's 2,300.No thanks
@Bamariku
@Bamariku 3 жыл бұрын
MPU which can't analyze on the fly, requested years ago already. Memory buffer which is still so small that I can only do an 4-beat emergency loop. No multi-touch. Basic flaws, just to remind we are not talking about lack of Wifi, Dual Deck or Performance Pads solely.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we hope they'll add onboard analysis
@MartiqueMusic
@MartiqueMusic 3 жыл бұрын
That was this kind of proper review i was waiting for !
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful.
@LawrenceRinconLoRinKo
@LawrenceRinconLoRinKo 3 жыл бұрын
man we waited for this for years. denon is way ahead of you guys now. time to sell my cdj2000 and move on
@maus3454
@maus3454 3 жыл бұрын
What will these CDJ2000 be worth now?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Guessing you'll be moving to Denon?
@Pieter2360
@Pieter2360 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I actually just switched from Denon (X1800/SC5000m) to Pioneer (V10 / CDJ3000) and I could not be more happy. To me, it was like moving up from a Golf GTI to a 911. Pioneer has absolutely nailed it imo.
@youdj_app
@youdj_app 3 жыл бұрын
No internet connection and no online streaming built-in?? come on guys it is 2020 :D
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Not at first glance anyway
@maus3454
@maus3454 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot fix the lack of WIFI with a software update
@onemoresi
@onemoresi 3 жыл бұрын
or intelligent touch screen, WIFI, SATA drive, no internal track analysis, no cross platform support, 1 USB port. Pioneer have dropped the ball on a £2.1k unit.
@leehollywood196
@leehollywood196 3 жыл бұрын
It's a joke was so excited for the next jen I think this will sink pioneer denon just smashed it the only thing I like is the que function
@oscarhodson6265
@oscarhodson6265 3 жыл бұрын
I think the target market for these players aren't massively upset by this. in festival and club environments i think people would prefer SD and USB sticks.
@DJMixtApe808
@DJMixtApe808 3 жыл бұрын
another excellent and detailed review, thanks Phil. i'm completely with you here. these are really good within the realistic amount of change a market leader can make with their flaship product. you simply can't tear up the rulebook if you have 90% of the market, due to the potential risk of alienating your core audience. great additions - key sync!!!!, the processor, 8 hot cues!!! (not 100% sold on the positioning, but i can see the argument for taking them away from the palm rest area), and of course the screen. also, shifting a lot of useful functionality to hardware buttons is also a massive plus i also agree that some of the stuff that's 'missing' seems certain to be introduced at some point through updates, so i won't be getting too worried about that. i do hate these tedious dennoners vs pioneers arguments, but i know why we have them. both are really great devices, incorporating many of the great things controllers have brought us in recent years. the important thing from this launch is that if i owned a club and needed to update, i'd feel in safe territory to stay within pioneer's infrastructure. it may feel lame to some, but pioneer appear to have done 'enough' with the 3000's. probably more than enough really. if it was a completely level playing field with all clubs starting from scratch, maybe dennon has the slightly better offer, but that's not the reality.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Seth, and thanks for the level headed analysis :)
@harveyspecter1653
@harveyspecter1653 2 жыл бұрын
Imho that '"you cannot completely change it too much if you are the leader" is as bogus as they come. Sorry if this sounds too harsh. Don't know how to say it otherwise. Pioneer started too late with this and had to release something. THey just underdeveloped it and felt, pff, we own the market anyway so screw them. There is no excuse for not having dual layers; That won't change your workflow. There is no excuse for not having WiFi. Won't change your work flow. Imo these cue buttons under the screen are sooooo wrong: you can accidentally touch the platter and stop your music when it's in vinyl mode. They just put them there because people would otherwise say: ha you see? They copied Denon. I mean, the buttons are even exactly the same... It's a nice upgrade for sure but given what it brings and what the Denon costs the CDJ should not be 1 cent more than 750USD.
@Pieter2360
@Pieter2360 3 жыл бұрын
After months of doubting if I should switch back to Pioneer, I finally decided to buy the CDJ 3000’s this week. I only have one big regret now: wish I had pulled the trigger on them immediately when they came out! Man, these things are absolutely amazing!!! What a superb quality and what a great joy to play one these beasts. I feel that playing on these is so much more intuitive and effortless than my on my Denon’s that I not only enjoy DJ even more, but I immediately feel I can fully concentrate on the music. Yes, it’s a lot of money, but in terms of price/quality ratio it makes complete sense to me (maybe also because I’m not at all interested in the features it is missing and everyone seems to be complaining about like WiFi, dual layers, steaming, etc).
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Pioneer will be glad to hear that Pieter :)
@djshortefromphilly
@djshortefromphilly 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the comparison videos with Denondj and pioneer
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@djtheob01
@djtheob01 3 жыл бұрын
On the Denon's, I'm sure you can move a active loop forwards or backwards by holding down shift with the encoder, and the length of the move is the same size as the loop.
@AlexInvar
@AlexInvar 2 жыл бұрын
On pioneer it's the beat jump that does that same thing
@7elev113
@7elev113 3 жыл бұрын
I switched from Pioneer to Traktor and I’m happy I did.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the kind of DJ you are Traktor is a great bit of software :)
@TheKRKN
@TheKRKN 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips said it best. I miss traktor so much. Currently on Denon SC5000 because my computer is super outdated, but I miss my remix decks and Traktor effects and the fine tuning key adjust. I hope traktor does something to stay in the "game" because I love that software to death but it needs some updates bad. The smart playlist is hopefully the first step forward. 🤞
@lucasmaia8315
@lucasmaia8315 3 жыл бұрын
They basically added just enough to stop people from switching to Denon. Quite a shame really, I am baffled that it can't even analyze tracks on its own.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
As we said in the review, we think this is a strategic decision, and that it will come at some point.
@lucasmaia8315
@lucasmaia8315 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips Yeah, we all know how pioneer works by now hahaha. Great review as always, I'm sure the players are great but the Denons certainly seem more attractive to me.
@jeremiasidoroff6454
@jeremiasidoroff6454 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips Also it's probably not there yet because the primary demographic for this are clubs and festivals where DJs should have everything ready
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiasidoroff6454 ... which is still no excuse, or at least, just a very poor one. But yeah, speaks a lot that Pioneer only cares about the top 20% acts and ignores the rest of their user base, like mobile or smaller club DJs...
@ollieo7038
@ollieo7038 3 жыл бұрын
These aren't players made for amateur djs with loads of assistance. They're made for world touring djs who are used to pioneer and can't be bothered to learn anything new. They'll reign supreme as long as that remains the case.
@micksumo
@micksumo 3 жыл бұрын
I can't see much of an advantage on this over the Denon players even the SC5000's which i have. Lack of dual layer is also quite disappointing. It'll be interesting to see how this develops with things like dual layer and streaming. For the money it's just not great value buy one get one free on Denon. These are designed to be in clubs and festivals but i hope Denon starts making inroads as Pioneer just aren't doing it.... it's a rehash of what they've done. You can have a decent mixer and 2 Denon players as a bedroom DJ.... go laidback Luke!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Dual layer is never going to come to these, that would have been a hardware decision (it would have needed more sockets around the back). As you say these are designed for clubs and festivals - which of course makes this a monumentally bad time to launch them!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
They are though, top end clubs installations and festivals - Denon are slashing prices to get their stuff into booths which is a good idea but one that Pioneer obviously don't feel the need to do. Pretty much no price increase for a much better unit seems right to us
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
They still slashed prices though as they were much more expensive when they first came out, the SC5000 for example dropped from $1899 down to $999 many outlets covered this
@neiljohnston6523
@neiljohnston6523 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips only because a new version was announced....and the SC5000 found its new place in the market alongside the SC6000.
@micksumo
@micksumo 3 жыл бұрын
Also having watched the full video feels to me a bit like some of the 'new' features are on their current units so having used an RX2 2 years ago there's lots in the menus for example that are the same. I'm sure they are excellent units for the pio user just in isolation not as great as we'd all hoped they would be. Also i agree with what some others have said that the hot cue buttons should be below the platter and not above...
@johnparker8270
@johnparker8270 3 жыл бұрын
I'd still like to see 2 decimal places on the bpm display but other than that I'm very happy
@johnparker8270
@johnparker8270 3 жыл бұрын
Just off to buy a lottery ticket 😂
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Haha good luck ;)
@nacorcarmonablanco4414
@nacorcarmonablanco4414 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOF.KINGLUTELY!! This is what buffles me more than anything. Another (great) CDJ iteration and still no 2 decimals bpm display?? Come on Pioneer...
@ohdenitto
@ohdenitto 3 жыл бұрын
ITT: a lot of people who don't DJ outside the house screaming about how great Denon is. Holy shit: good luck with those club gigs with Denon CDJs that totally, acttually exist irl.
@substance90
@substance90 3 жыл бұрын
The XDJ-XZ desperately needs that screen!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@souldefunk
@souldefunk 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, detailed review Phil! Thank you.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome souldefunk music!
@jamesw2831
@jamesw2831 3 жыл бұрын
I'll wait til COVID is over to see how this does in its target market (clubs and festivals). I have started to see more Denon setups. Obviously, they're not the norm, but their growth in this market cannot be ignored.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
No definitely not, it’s awesome kit
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 3 жыл бұрын
Also consider Denons feature a great metal enclosure, AC power and full track buffer system, IEC locking socket, reduntant USB ports, good water resistance due to PCB coating, etc. this is serious engineering which shouldn't be ignored
@Papaburr97
@Papaburr97 3 жыл бұрын
LOL.. 6 of these will be playing loops at festivals soon
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Lol :)
@pompeyjim
@pompeyjim 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@scolex8001
@scolex8001 3 жыл бұрын
Soon lol
@DJCasanovaToronto
@DJCasanovaToronto 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao. Best comment here.
@kennethwilliams6916
@kennethwilliams6916 3 жыл бұрын
That is not an incorrect statement. Also we gotta remember that classic motto " YOU'RE NOT HEADLINING UNLESS YOU'RE REDLINNIN!
@jondazeishere
@jondazeishere 3 жыл бұрын
Releasing a club standard player when their are no clubs open and no club DJs earning money might not be a great idea.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly not the best timing…
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not that stupid, because venues that do have the spare cash can now test out the units, upgrade their gear, and gain experience and confidence until they can open again. Top-End CDJs are expensive anyway.
@IcemanTheDj
@IcemanTheDj 2 ай бұрын
I start by saying that I have no intention of offending my dj mates in any way, but no matter how great a DJ you are, when you mix on a big stage at a festival or any major event, the pressure felt and the emotions are enormous. In these conditions, you want to have absolute control over the setup in front of you! Once you've touched the display at one point, you don't want a slide of another finger on the screen to be taken into account by mistake. The required pressure on the Pioneer screen is also meant to prevent accidental touches. You don't want to hit a hot cue and realize the pads were in a different mode. You don't really want to have several functions on a button and have to think about which function you are in so you don't do something wrong, you want to perform... You don't want to realize that you were in another layer of the player when you stop a deck or press a cue point! Mixing on stage at a festival is completely different from mixing at a party or a wedding. James Hype, Tiesto, or any big DJ doesn't come to download his playlist from beatport. Try to imagine if you see James Hype mixing on 4 players with only 2 players in front of him in dual layer mode? DJs who mix on 4 or 6 players want to have 4-6 players in front. Total control. Not to mention that they want to be seen mixing on 4 players, give a better picture for the fans! And another important aspect is that the mixer from Denon does not even compare with the mixer from Pioneer! Two aspects in the effects section: 1 - With Pioneer you have the list of effects exposed and it is very easy to select the desired effect, while with Denon you have an encoder and you have to memorize the list to know where the desired effect is to know if you are going left or right with the encoder. Then you have to press it to select the effect. A lot of wasted time. You have to think well in advance when you want to change the effect because otherwise you lose the moment when you have to apply it. In addition, you also have to prepare the following songs, to interact with the crowd, etc. You're doing a show! 2 - Denon's FX frequency is a potentiometer that you have to adjust and that you won't be able to set the same way every time, compared to Pioneer's band selection buttons. Things that matter under the pressure of the atmosphere of a major event! And how you can't synchronize the Denon players with the Pioneer mixer... The mentality behind these players and the mixer from Pioneer is completely different from the one behind the controllers, and the setups for scratch djs. In the last 20+ years, I have mixed both at festivals and other major events and as a mobile DJ. I don't want to go with my mobile DJ setup to a festival, nor to a party or a wedding with a setup of 4 players and a mixer. It is important to know your needs and choose the equipment that serves your purpose. Neither the SC6000 nor the CDJ3000 are better or worse. They serve close but different purposes. That's why currently Denon will not take Pioneer's place on the big stages, at major events and big clubs! If you aspire to be a DJ on a big stage, it would be good to master the Pioneer ecosystem. If you go with your setup to events, choose what you like, you can afford and it serves your purpose, what's the importance of which one is better if it doesn't do what you need? I hope I didn't upset anyone! All the best!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 2 ай бұрын
You make a good point, many pros just want reliability and familiarity
@IcemanTheDj
@IcemanTheDj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I forgot to congratulate you for the detailed review! As for CDJ, there is room for gradual changes through updates. After all, Pioneer must have a market strategy. A dramatic change in this product line would bring advantages for Denon rather than small gradual changes. Now an established DJ has to choose between something he knows and something new for him (Denon) and I think it's obvious which is the easiest choice. If Pioneer were to dramatically change the CDJ, a DJ having to choose between 2 novelties could be a big problem for Pioneer! And BTW, you mentioned the loop encoder on the Denon players. That's what some DJs don't like. When using the loop function for a short buildup, sometimes you have to go from 1 beat to 1/2 to 1/4 to 1/8 in a fairly precise and fast sequence, and with the encoder sometimes you can very easily go over a step and ruin the buildup or slip your hand if you sweat a little. Instead, pressing a button to halve the loop at the required time is much more accurate. There are so many aspects that DJs who have not reached that level overlook. And it's normal because they have no way of knowing. And I wrote so much again... 😂 All the best!
@cashmasters99
@cashmasters99 3 жыл бұрын
3:08 Phil hit the mark because that's exactly why I like the new hot cue placement
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@RaquelFoster
@RaquelFoster 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm the only fan of the retro spinning LEDs on CJDs? I just don't like DDJ-1000 screens. It looks like you took a cheap phone screen and tried to make it look round by masking off part - which is exactly what the DDJ-1000 screens are. These look better, but... they're still emulating that screen look. I hope I can turn off that blue stripe which does nothing but indicate it's in vinyl mode... and maybe even turn off artwork and have a more interesting spinny graphic.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Good point, and interesting to hear that. You can turn them down very dim, I’m not sure if there’s any more customisation possible
@256k_
@256k_ 3 жыл бұрын
everyone: "stop looking at a laptop screen on stage" Pioneer: *puts the laptop screen in the deck itself*
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Lol well just don't do it all the time 😄
@AegisM
@AegisM 3 жыл бұрын
So happy I purchased my Denon SC6000M's. Originally I was wondering if I had done the right thing as Pioneer made their announcement one day after I received my equipment but oh my does it look like I've made the right choice here. I'm not a fan boy as I didn't own either Pionner or Denon equipment up until recently, yes I'm likely biased because I'm now a Denon user but hear me out. I'm a bedroom DJ, I won't be playing at venues and I certainly appreciate that users who do will absolutely love this new Pionner equipment as it's a step up and I think these units are for those users. I'm definitely surprised that many features are lacking and you'd like to think some of these things will come as a software update but wait a minute.... 1) There doesn't appear to be a WiFi card in these units. Their integration to services such as Beatport require you to use your PC and RB and link RB to these services. That's what they are officially advertising and I don't see on the product sheet that it has any WiFi card. Waiting to be proved wrong here. 2) No dual layer and even if they add it in a software update (which they aren't likely to do given their standpoint), you'd need to sacrifice something to get it because Denons have a physical layer button. 3) No on board analysis. Really? You have these fancy CPU's inside with all that power. You'd like to think this will be implemented in a future update. 4) No multi gesture - so you add this nice new big screen to look at things but come on, it's 2020. Even a 10 year old Android tablet has this, let alone some DJ equipment worth ££££'s (for those of you who are getting this equipment, hope the screen is capable of it so it comes in a future software update). 5) No cloud locker - this will likely come in a future software update, but you still won't have it currently. 6) Can't make playlists - what? I have all that screen to use...why not? Oh wait...future software update...hopefully....maybe... 7) Motorised platter option? Oh, no. A screen in the middle of the jog wheels to display info that's already on that huge screen in front of your eyes is far more important...great. I mean even if you don't want a motorised platter, do people really look at these tiny screens when you now have such massive screen estate? Maybe when the main displays were smaller but come on...but but they have better resolution and stuff! ... What am I missing here? :) 8) Plastic buttons. Plastic screen. Plastic. Imagine if Apple used plastic buttons on their flagship devices and claimed "this is what people want in their expensive equipment". Doesn't add up but what do I know eh. Sure rubber is hardly premium such as metal but you got your plastic, guys. I mean yeah, if you're a CDJ2000 user and want the best Pioneer has to offer then sure, go grab these I'm sure you won't be disappointed, especially if you play in all these venues like James Hype and they actually start providing some missing features through software. I've said all along, if you get the hardware right and the software can be constantly updated, you can't go wrong as it's future proof. Problem is, I'm not sure the hardware is right here (I'm sure others will disagree but each to their own). Let's not mention the price for this equipment either right. Overall: 6/10. (7/10 if you're an existing CDJ user). Cheers - just remember these are my opinions, I'm sure some will be upset by it and some will agree with it, that's just the nature of it but wanted to chuck my pennies worth in.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Massive outlay for bedroom DJing Aur0rasi, any reason you went with media players at all? :)
@AegisM
@AegisM 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips Certainly was and it's probably even more crazy when you think I'm new to DJ'ing and are starting it as a new hobby! I always try and buy the best of whatever it is, because that's the type of person I am and wasn't really financially limited so why not. I wouldn't want to purchase some equipment and then be like "damn if I have just spent a little more I could have done this and progressed my learning further". I only have one SC6000M currently as I'm waiting delivery of my other player however with a single SC6000M + X1850 + link to VirtualDJ pro, I am already learning the basics whilst also learning the new techniques (mixing with stem separation) and I'm having a blast! One thing I'm confident on though, is if I ever reach a good skill ceiling, it won't be down to restrictions of the hardware. I'm also a techie guy so I just love the gadget side of it as well. Due to being motorised platter I can also learn how to scratch better and invest time and have fun with that. So much to learn, so much fun to be had! I'm even going to stream my journey to becoming an below-average DJ, lol. Stupid waste of money/Do I regret it? Definitely not. Hours fly by whilst doing my super poor mixing efforts! Will I always have them? For a heck of a long time for sure because they do everything I can see I want, especially with software updates. Should I have gone Pioneer? No. Should I have just got a controller only? Maybe, I almost purchased the Rane's, however I just felt like the SC6000M's literally had everything.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough :)
@adenkaine
@adenkaine 3 жыл бұрын
When I got my Denons I found out they had WiFi a year before they announced it by reading the instruction manual, and in it there was a warning that the device produced radiowaves, so if it says that in the manual, they likely have WiFi on board.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting...
@micodaniels4417
@micodaniels4417 3 жыл бұрын
Beat Jump buttons are a nice touch
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@SWRMR
@SWRMR 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, Phil! I think the sound quality comment was incorrect. If Pioneer implemented "the best D/A converters" in these players, why did you connect them via digital link? That way, you clearly bypassed those converters. Also, great sound regardless how much you speed up or down tracks has nothing to do with the D/A converters, but rather to do with the software, which indeed sounded awesome! Keep up the good work - you rock!
@djgartek
@djgartek 3 жыл бұрын
Michalis Roussounelos absolutely!!! I agree with you. He never used the D/A converters! He reviewed the mixer’s D/A converter
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
@@djgartek Now that is very true - my bad. However there is an awful lot of processing going on inside the unit. It upsamples all audio to 96kHz before applying timestretching etc. That all sounds awesome. But yeah, I didn't review the actual DAC, you're right.
@SWRMR
@SWRMR 3 жыл бұрын
@@djgartek Exactly!
@djgartek
@djgartek 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips the upsampling doesn't increase the quality, it avoids digital noise generated by key shifting and master tempo algorithms. It doesn't imply more quality, even the increase of bits to 32. 32 is because ARM processors expend the same amount of resources when process 24 or 32 bits (processors works in power of two 2,4,16,32,64... Etc) . But 32 sounds better but doesn't mean an improvement.
@claytonthechemist
@claytonthechemist 3 жыл бұрын
I barely knew how to use CDJ-2000 NXS2, and got these to both be able to throw parties after the pandemic, but also to finally be able to practice and establish cue points naturally. I got the 3000s and immediately started using them on my Twitch streams, figuring I'd RTFM later, well this video filled in the gaps. I'm satisfied with the new 3000s, and have Traktor and real pads for when I want to get fancy.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying them Clayton :)
@bangaarhus2
@bangaarhus2 3 жыл бұрын
I would love some focus on the ability to resist water damage. Sooo many clubs are having problems with spilled drinks from gusts. This is by far a what damages players more than buttons get worn out. Even small droplets has caused major problems while playing. That said the CDJ 3000 looks promising, and I look forward to use it.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@charleswrigley9488
@charleswrigley9488 3 жыл бұрын
As a dj who just does it has a hobby fir shits n giggles. Pioneer fan boys will love these. What seen over the years of dj products coming out denon have hit it on thw head with there media players and controller then two new controllers and new media players with wife streaming hard drive bays for music storage. Seems more innovative as the way you dj moved on. As phil said in one of his videos turn up swith on log in rock out.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
That said Charles, mark my words - that will come to these exact players. That can all be done in software.
@djccruz1
@djccruz1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the review Phil. I’m not surprised about the price since it’s pioneer. Some of the missing features can be done thru future updates. I don’t like where they placed the hot cue buttons. For the money/features and Engine getting better, I rather go for denon players.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Carlos, fair points - the hot cues aren't as weirdly placed as you think once you get using them :)
@djkamilo66
@djkamilo66 3 жыл бұрын
sc6000 still twice the player that one is, not only in model number but literally.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for weighing in :)
@prosco1985
@prosco1985 3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed the review! I would love to give these a go myself however, the cost of the pair of CDJs, along with the mixer is very expensive.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, glad you liked it!
@SherwinBajao
@SherwinBajao 3 жыл бұрын
Love the song preview.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Nurkomusic
@Nurkomusic 3 жыл бұрын
Before, on the left side of the CDJ, you would press USB button to select your USB and then press the Link button on the other CDJ(s) to have the whole system use that USB. I notice that's gone now. How does that work here? You just tap the top where it says USB and select which USB the CDJ's are reading?
@harshhell4185
@harshhell4185 10 күн бұрын
Is there a new version of the CDJ3000 coming out anytime soon? I’m going to buy these now if not.
@joakimsafstrom8405
@joakimsafstrom8405 3 жыл бұрын
No analyzing in the deck...no Beatport Link, Tidal or Soundclowd streaming ???
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
No sadly not at the moment but the potential is there for this to be added and considering the new subscription plans with Rekordbox...
@drumandbassnz4678
@drumandbassnz4678 3 жыл бұрын
9:45 they do have a mixer with the hub built in the back, djm 2000
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Yes good point we forgot about that, thank you for reminding us
@DJMonee727
@DJMonee727 Жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE VIDEO ! Thank You 🙏🙏🙏
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@P.Gillett
@P.Gillett 3 жыл бұрын
one nice feature not mentioned is that when you adjust the sensitivity of the job wheel, it actually adjusts the tension as well, so if you make the wheel less sensitive, it actually becomes physically tougher to change the tempo.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional point Paul! :)
@nativitymusic
@nativitymusic 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just got a pair of CDJ 2000 NX2s last month and after watching this video I'm glad I just went w/ the NX2s instead of waiting for these. It's funny, my whole intention w/ investing in some CDJs after being a working blue collar open format DJ that primarily DJs events at bars w/ Turntable setups [hip hop DJs w/ serato mixers] or corporate/wedding gigs w/ a S4 MK1 set up, is that I wanted to move AWAY from using a laptop. Now the screens keep getting bigger and it's starting to look even more like a computer LOL. I also agree w/ someone's comment down below w/ how the cue point location makes NO SENSE for those of us who use Cue Points to creatively mix. And they made the buttons even SMALLER!? That's weird and unfortunate. Adding the beat jump buttons is whatever since it was a function that was easy to find on the touch screens on the NX2s/XDJs. But taking away the Break knob and combining it w/ the start knob isn't my vibe or anyone that I know that likes to use their CDJs/XDJs like turntables. My favorite thing about having those two knobs is that you can get really creative w/ mixing your tracks like how I would use my Techniques turntables. Preview function is cool, but equally if not even more important than the preview function is how fast will these players load up the tracks. I'm having issues w/ my NX2s not loading up tracks fast enough and it's a pain for when I DJ Jungle / Drum & Bass music and want to do a double drop. [One of the things I miss from DJing w/ a laptop + program] Overall it is what it is. I was going to say I look forward to using these at a DJ gig, but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon in this year or next =/.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Unless I got a good deal on the Nexus players I'd actually be a little annoyed, these feel markedly better for not much more money - as long as you're happy though :)
@theelectronic4051
@theelectronic4051 3 жыл бұрын
The NXS2 might turn out to be a good investment as there will now be a niche market for pro players that have a CD drive.
@Odyseuss08
@Odyseuss08 3 жыл бұрын
Okay! lets talk truth ladies & gentleman: Im not a Pioneer Fanboy neither an Denon Fanboy. Im a Fan of great products! So the main reason why the new CDJ look as they look and is what it is and the Denon SC6000 is what it is is that: Pioneer is now run by a group of "profit only" investors and they have a clear message: "minimal risk, maximum margin" - put in the cheapest stable working parts you can find on the market to do do the most minimal upgrade that users might accept possible and sell it to the maximum price possible - thats the new core of pioneer brand and the strategy. a group of investors that try to squeeze out the brand like a lemon and sell it before its totally done. Inmusic is driven by an absolute musical enthusiast who aims to simply deliver the greatest most innovative product possible at a fair price! - margin is important - but its not that "max margin" is the main priority. the priority is the happy client! and to bound clients in long term to the insmusic world. And that is exactly why we see what we see here: old tech at an pricepoint which is basically a fraud. and what me really really really makes sad is that Digital DJ Tips is not honest enough to name the facts and try to jump right on the marketing train of pioneer with that "made for festival DJs, clubs and installations" - yes of course! This is what pioneer wants!!!! but who decides which player will stand in a club or in a installation or at a festival: The User!!!! Not Pioneer!!! and to say they aim different markets ist just pure lie!!!!! they both aim exactly the same market with their product portofolio and that is the full range from beginners to Pros and top level DJs! By saying that the CDJ3000 "should" be The festival player its just a bad try to reasoning this absolutely moonprice for old tech! Its the bussines mentality of pioneer nowadays that makes this a bad player for the price and not what the company could do if they wanted and would get the budget they once got when they have been an innovative and groundbreaking company. who says Denon is not for Clubs, Installations or Festivals? They simply have the better gear! And you can even put Rekordbox Sticks into it and play right out of the box! But ofc also Denon has weaknesses - as Engine DJ ist right now just not there where it should be. But if we see the evolution Speed of Denon in the last 2 years - man, that wont last for long. Just be honest and name it as it is: this product at THIS price is a fraud and everybody who buys one of these is supporting the cheating of that investor driven company. Pioneer has lost its soul and passion as a brand. really everywhere i hear this mantra with "pioneer says this is for clubs and festivals blablabla and thats why it has this pricetag".... wow man really? and all this reviewers just take this explanation as given? and even go further take away Denons Approach of that part of the market by saying pioneer aims it and Denon not? Sorry thats not fair and not objective. Also the Apple comparison doesnt work. As the Apple Strategy always was and is: deliver the best product on the market with the newest tech and THEN add an crazy amount of money just to show you are apple and underline you are the premium. But here its totally different: here its like Apple would release a phone with 50% less power and 50% less functions then a Xiaomi Mid Level Phone but still say: Hey we are Pioneer and this is the best phone in the world and as we are just luxury product we charge this money. or If Mercedes would produce a Kia in Mercedes Shape and sell it as an S-Class. If Apple would deliver products which are by performance just 50% of what Samsung would do - Apple would loose its marketing position within some years. And man im really happy that most people are not that stupid - as whatever any YT Video or a marketing campaign will say - most people are not stupid and thats why - i tell you today remember my words: pioneer will go down and loose the Number 1 Spot within the next 5 years. Selling tricks just work short term. But people learn and see themselve in long term where is the better product when the marketing effect is gone. The Pioneer players would have been nice players as they are now if they would have been released 3-4 years ago. But now its just outdated tech sold in a fraud to fool people. My honest oppinion is just that this price goes a big step too far what would be fair to say just "well its cause its pioneer and thats why its the best and thats why it´s worth it" I want to thank pioneer and the old owners for great 20 years of DJ Culture and Innovations same as 1980-2010 was technics legends time which also now slowly went down within the last 10 years cause of lack of innovation and development of the brand and products - pioneer was THE brand to go 2000-2020 and brought DJing to a whole new level. But as we all know: In the moment you stop to getting better you stop to be good. And that´s why Pioneer DJs No.1 Market Position sooner then later will be history. remember my words! 5 years maximum and its done. And no Fanboy or Marketingphrase nor one sided KZfaq Videos like this one repeating this marketing phrases can change evolution or manipulate the majority of the users in long therm. I think the onyl Chance for Pioneer is a new owner with a different approach: Where the user is number one again and profit just the second priority. If not Pioneer will end as Nokia 2.0 Thanks folks for reading! Im out!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez, is the return key on your computer broken? That is one hard rant to read. So, what on earth makes you think we are in any way wedded to Pioneer DJ? Anyway, as you say you are “out”, come back in 5 years and we’ll talk.
@Odyseuss08
@Odyseuss08 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips If you are not "wedded" then at least you are caught yourself by pioneers marketing phrase - "this player is for.." to create an marketing driven reason for an unrealistic price point and you even repeat it multiple time. So then i tip my hats off to pioneer for being the manipulative masters of the game that even DDT in its objective position doesnt realize what is happening here. talking summer 2025!!!!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
That was a short five years ;)
@Odyseuss08
@Odyseuss08 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips Pioneer already lost the No.1 Marketshare ? :D ...well then that was fast!
@cosmojonesmusic
@cosmojonesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Phil "We'll get to that later" Morse 😂
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 2 жыл бұрын
Guilty as charged!
@djjax2641
@djjax2641 3 жыл бұрын
yeah not sure I'm a fan of the new cdj's. Honestly, not much had to be improved. a couple things here and there. Mabey where the hot cue buttons are, those could be pads used for other things. Honestly, it kind of looks like a downgrade
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't feel like a downgrade to use - the screen and the responsiveness, the key sync/shift, the new hot cues alone make it feel totally different to play on.
@Xer0.Visual5
@Xer0.Visual5 3 жыл бұрын
To me it’s overfull with Buttons and looks to much in 1 place! And the que placement looks like your going to Tap the jogwheel when your using que points. And the screen is not anno 2020. Pioneer is strong in Rekordbox but is that going to help them? I think no clubs are going to upgrade to cdj 3000 from nxs2 no real big thinks to do it. Also sc6000 looks cleaner and more professional now and cdj 3000 more like a gimmick in my opinion.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xer0.Visual5 Agreed, the SC6000 is much cleaner and simpler - the CDJ-3000 does look cluttered. There are too many legacy buttons (the looping and memory cues). That said, we do think you'll see clubs upgrading as Pioneer DJ introduces more software features, and as DJs start to insist on the 3000s.
@Xer0.Visual5
@Xer0.Visual5 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips but i really think this player is also going to help Denon and the SC6000. In this time in the world there is way more time for bigger DJs to think about Switching. Here are already some big names with Denon and i really think the CDJ 3000 is going to help Denon with getting more people going to the SC6000, plus the NextGen DJs will look better before making a Call on what there going to use. And i think that is good for everyone.
@djjax2641
@djjax2641 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips yeah it may not feel like a downgrade but unfortunately some features are lost. And I agree with @kevin.R everything does look overcrowded.
@cashvault1996
@cashvault1996 2 жыл бұрын
My controller is Pioneer’s rival, Hercules Impulse-500! That’s a great controller as well, especially for beginner and intermediate level DJs like me.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 2 жыл бұрын
It is a good beginner-intermediate controller, for sure.
@heinrichpelser
@heinrichpelser 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thanks
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 2 жыл бұрын
You’re more than welcome
@djsonofibiza
@djsonofibiza 3 жыл бұрын
pioneer cdj 3000 = 2400 € denon sc6000 = 1400 € and there is way beter screens inputs and outputs and features so........ denon wins 🙂 💯%
@wb2886
@wb2886 3 жыл бұрын
The only problem is (i switched from Pio to Den) that the software Engine OS and also Engine Prime is not that stable but it got tons of updates so it's just like to wait. :D
@Odyseuss08
@Odyseuss08 3 жыл бұрын
sadly the Denon Software is bad. but 2K just for the better software? no thanks... Denon wins casue of the price even with the trash software...
@dominickd16
@dominickd16 3 жыл бұрын
Dj Son Of Ibiza actually Denon loses because pioneer will sell more of these at a higher price point
@wb2886
@wb2886 3 жыл бұрын
Odyseuss08 absolutely:D
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for weighing in :)
@DJSCOOBVibes
@DJSCOOBVibes 3 жыл бұрын
I have a much better appreciation of these decks abilities after watching this concise in depth review. Great job @digitaldjtips Really looking forward to seeing how they utilize the MPU with software/feature set upgrades soon
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped you
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq 2 жыл бұрын
Something came up in the sound quality portion that may be an issue. It was in reference to the high quality dac chips that are supposed to be in this unit. If I'm not mistaken, when you use these players with the matching Pioneer mixer, the connection is digital. That means you bypass the entire dac portion of the unit, and its just a transport. You're spending a lot of money on something that is not going to be used. Its kind of like what the Rane 12 is, or how Denon released the controller only section of their media players. So, if you are going with an all Pioneer system, you end up spending a lot of money on things that won't be used. I'm pretty sure I'm right about this, but if I'm wrong, someone please correct me. If I happen to be right, maybe Pioneer is coming out with a transport only version of this unit?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you are bypassing the DAC, but it's wrong to say it is then reduced to a controller. It still has a computer and an operating system inside it to work with your music files and provide the other performance functions and audio processing. These are professional units, designed for modularity and versatility, so having both options in the one unit makes sense from a pro point of view.
@randomguy5284
@randomguy5284 3 жыл бұрын
This review feels like it was made two years ago. None of the features that was presented are new in 2020.
@renechang2406
@renechang2406 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
New for Pioneer though
@philippebonnet266
@philippebonnet266 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, seems to me that they forgot that hot cues are quite important when you are performing... I´ve realIzed how good is my DDJ1000.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
They're less weirdly placed than you think when you get using it :)
@RC75
@RC75 2 жыл бұрын
I never use the hot cues on my DDJ-1000.
@manny_f
@manny_f 3 жыл бұрын
The vinyl start knob, IMO, was cool when used as an effect. I would stop the track slowly, maybe talk on the microphone, then start again with a slow start effect which is kinda cool
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, it is something James Hype missed, too.
@Sebastian-rr7de
@Sebastian-rr7de 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. Definitely an improvement over the old one. But still don't see the justification for the insane price. Especially given the lack of innovative features.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone thought these would be cheap...
@robinsonpaulino3563
@robinsonpaulino3563 3 жыл бұрын
another over priced product from pioneer dj to take your money...its a shame..good news is that i am so glad that i went for the denon SC6000..with my 2 denon SC6000 i could play 4 decks in the same time and like 50 more features
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
For most DJs we don't recommend splashing out on CDJs anyway, let the clubs foot the bill :)
@neiljohnston6523
@neiljohnston6523 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips exact;y. buy a Prime 4 or Prime 2 if you want the best Standalone system..correct ?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd go for the Prime 4
@joaquinbenabentos
@joaquinbenabentos 3 жыл бұрын
it have the right things that were needed for live sets... a better bright screen for day gigs, better overall screen, better audio quality and the waveforms overlaped, then all the other things are just for people buying it at home, but not usefull for big set ups in parties. I think it will remain as standard for many years.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for weighing in Joaquin
@TheThrillseekersofficial
@TheThrillseekersofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to taking these for a spin. Just need some gigs now! 🤨
@DJBaldPaul
@DJBaldPaul 3 жыл бұрын
Thought vinyl was your thing now Steve? ;-)
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Don't we all :)
@andyb311
@andyb311 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you to take them for a spin too Steve. 👌👍
@dj-peterofficial2753
@dj-peterofficial2753 3 жыл бұрын
It's like Pioneer read my mind. I have to be the total average DJ of all the DJ's they've asked for inputs. At 52, I really didn't think there would be something else I would want to get after I got my NXS2 setup, but I've changed my mind. Time to start saving.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Peter :)
@j.ro.official4530
@j.ro.official4530 3 жыл бұрын
A monumental day in DJing, the CDJ 3000 is here baby, thanks for the review!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@ShineRecordings
@ShineRecordings 3 жыл бұрын
I like pioneer and I'm using the NXS2, however I don't see any reason why I should switch to these CDJ or XDJ3000? Screen is bigger? no, 4 and 8 Beat Loop? no! could Pioneer let us know what is really innovative here?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Key shift is the feature we will use the most.
@ernaXmeier
@ernaXmeier 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips No audio glitches with key shift? Had some bad experience with Master Tempo on 900nxs, is Key Shift a different process?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
No audio glitches. It is rock solid.
@Aidyba81
@Aidyba81 3 жыл бұрын
Same here - not worth the upgrade.
@ShineRecordings
@ShineRecordings 3 жыл бұрын
Aidyba81 let's wait for the cdj3000 mk3 😂👍
@bvs2842
@bvs2842 3 жыл бұрын
How can the cdj3000 be a duel player in future updates when there's only one set of outputs on the back?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
It can't, who told you it could?
@bvs2842
@bvs2842 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips I thought you said it in your first review. You said you wouldn't be surprised to see that add in update's.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
No I don't believe so, Phil mentions things like onboard analysis and hoping there is wifi built in that we don't know about - I seem to remember in one of the videos Phil mentioning we wouldn't see dual layers for the same reason you mention
@djresource717
@djresource717 2 жыл бұрын
I,ve used CDJS pioneer CDJS,,amazing stuff, hopefully ,buying professional gear after June hoilday .
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you can! Maybe worth ordering it now as there's a bit of a delay on obtaining gear in many places at the moment.
@EDITSbyVELOCITY
@EDITSbyVELOCITY 3 жыл бұрын
cheers for the fantastic review Phil + team. It'll take a couple of years before we start seeing these in clubs, the lack of dual deck is pretty frustrating. I guess now we just wait for a 4chan standalone unit from pioneer, it's a massive gap in their offerings.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it!
@BrodieNeroTV
@BrodieNeroTV 3 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for this, to confirm... changing the key display from regular to camelot needs to be done in the rekord box software right?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@frankppc8882
@frankppc8882 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously not as good as the Denon, BUT Pioneer still dominated DJ booths with the 2000 and these are a great improvement over those so they'll undoubtedly become industry standard. I'd rather use a 2000 over a Prime any day just because of how it feels and responds, so I'm happy with this upgrade
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
For Pioneer users, you've hit the nail on the head there Frank.
@maus3454
@maus3454 3 жыл бұрын
But will clubs upgrade there existing 2000’s to 3000’s or move to 6000’s?
@frankppc8882
@frankppc8882 3 жыл бұрын
@@maus3454 I don't think they'll switch to Denon gear, DJ's don't have enough experience and trust in it, plus from my limited experience the build quality doesn't feel up to what Pioneer do. But I'm not sure with everything going on there will be a lot of clubs rushing to upgrade to the 3000's at the moment either
@DjKamSaini
@DjKamSaini 2 жыл бұрын
Did he review 'Source' button or how to use usb drive & link mode Or i just missed it? Can anyone help me out?
@leighinibiza
@leighinibiza 3 жыл бұрын
The reason this will probably succeed is because Pioneer Sponsored DJ’s will receive these quick sharp as will the worlds top clubs (and also clubs where owners don’t have a cost barrier). Will that drag along other DJs and clubs for the journey? Time will tell. Is the Pioneer CDJ-3000 mk2 already in the making with the improvements Phil wants to see included?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Well, a lot of those improvements can be done via firmware upgrades, due to the MPU inside it - that may just turn out to be the biggest leap forward here, and of course, it's invisible...
@leighinibiza
@leighinibiza 3 жыл бұрын
Digital DJ Tips it’s going to take a real leap of faith from lesser known DJs and Smaller Clubs together to force Denon into the #1 position regardless of what features they offer and price point.
@PaulBohno
@PaulBohno 3 ай бұрын
Have they added anything on the software side that you said the unit was missing at the end of this video, now 3 years later? I am curious
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 ай бұрын
Very little, only Beatport as a streaming service and cloud library access (both pretty cool, it has to be said)
@dondacurator
@dondacurator 3 жыл бұрын
could have done more with that jogwheel display. Is it the ssx3 that allows you to display your own logo? i find that comforting, wish they led with that in this unit and used that album artwork memory for something else
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
It is pretty cool seeing your own logo on the decks lol
@dondacurator
@dondacurator 3 жыл бұрын
It's comforting ,it calms performance enxiety ,it calms me down ,seeing what you believe in and what you've been practicing ..It gives me courage I wish they could at least make it optional
@mkivst180
@mkivst180 3 жыл бұрын
Using CDJ3000 in HID mode, is there a way to control or use the performance pads ?
@DEBOASSE
@DEBOASSE 3 жыл бұрын
28:00 - The feature of previewing the track while sliding through it is really awesome. I hope something like that come up soon on the Prime Series updates.
@maus3454
@maus3454 3 жыл бұрын
Prime preview mode was already available on Prime 2 and GO and will become available on Prime 4 with firmware update 1.6 which have been released for public beta
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Vin
@DEBOASSE
@DEBOASSE 3 жыл бұрын
@@maus3454 could you share any link about it?
@maus3454
@maus3454 3 жыл бұрын
@@DEBOASSE kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btBmZLqircXIl4U.html
@DEBOASSE
@DEBOASSE 3 жыл бұрын
@@maus3454 Thanks for sharing i knew the artwork thing but I just discovered you can navigate the track on that mode. Brilliant! I appreciate you!!!
@Odyseuss08
@Odyseuss08 3 жыл бұрын
Will you order soon or just recently ordered a CDJ3000 or a SC6000? If yes so - which one did/will you buy?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
If that's a question for us then Phil has said several times in the comments sections he'd get the Denon setup
@jemmanuellrt
@jemmanuellrt Жыл бұрын
You are damn good, thanks!!!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips Жыл бұрын
you're welcome
@nastynemesis1525
@nastynemesis1525 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
👌
@barrysimpson9495
@barrysimpson9495 3 жыл бұрын
My DJ name is Barry G I've been using Pioneer equipment for over 10 years I've recently switch to Denon I think Pioneer have done what they need to do do the only thing I don't agree with is the cost compared with the Denons I had a set of of Nexus 2000 2 and I thought for a leading company the paneer in Nexus 2 was very sluggish for the money what you had to pay for them Denon DJ thumbs up for bringing out a product what is priced fairly unlike pioneer so thumbs down to Pioneer I've got a sc6000 very happy I sold my Nexus 2s and got changed back from buying a full setup of Denon prime sc6000 and 1850 mixer now that is value
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Barry, we definitely hear you regarding the price - Pioneer hasn't ever been cheap but they've worked hard for a long time to charge what they do and for a lot of DJs to see the value
@NextHype7
@NextHype7 3 жыл бұрын
Hey.. setup has just arrived today, however the link cue headphones is turned on but when I tap on the preview of a song, it doesn’t play through my headphones? Any help with this please
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Head to Global DJ Network, make a post and include a picture or short video - that'll be the best way to diagnose this: djtips.co/family :)
@omrankhoja319
@omrankhoja319 3 жыл бұрын
Hi where can I get more information on the proper key mixing you mentioned in the video? I have learned the 4 key option way of mixing, how would you find out what the other 2 keys you can mix into are?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Where in the video do we mention it please? Phil might be referencing another article/video we've made
@ichigen511
@ichigen511 2 ай бұрын
Just to push back on your comment that "speed adjust" is NOT NEEDED, that the track should start the instand the button is pushed would imply that Pioneer shouldn't have added the adjustment dial to begin with. Clearly Pioneer is honoring the old school OG's who leanred on vinyl and find comfort in the replication of a classic MKII. To snark it off as not relevant would be a sad day in the digital market.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm, I disagree (car's don't poop just to keep horse fans happy) but I see where you're coming from!
@mike._.feliciano6782
@mike._.feliciano6782 3 жыл бұрын
No wifi. Can't analyze on the deck? So, lipstick on a 🐖?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
That we know of, we definitely hope they'll add onboard analysis down the line
@RealNiceMike
@RealNiceMike 3 жыл бұрын
Just got the CDJ 3000s. In controller mode I don’t have 2nd deck stacked waveform. Do you know how to turn them on? Also, I can’t pinpoint the cue to where I want it. Everytime I try to set a cue it defaults it to the nearest point. Please help. Thanks.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
We haven't tested this in controller, mode, although I suspect there is currently no way. Would love to be proved wrong!
@P.Gillett
@P.Gillett 3 жыл бұрын
i have a suggestion, hopefully pioneer hears me. make it so that when i put in my USB, the deck reads my settings, ie, brightness, and whatever, just automatically adjust to how i usually play without having to go in and change all the settings. thanks
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Nice idea!
@Schnitzelbakker
@Schnitzelbakker 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, do you think we'll see an XZ2 or other standalone with these improvements in the near future or will Pioneer take their sweet time and make us wait?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Your guess is as good as ours on that one, we'd love to see a new XZ with the updated screen
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur 3 жыл бұрын
they finally dumped the cd slot .About time.Some djs will not be pleased but i am very pleased
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah makes a lot of sense
@djseasick
@djseasick 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna lie. I like it.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, we do as well :)
@djseasick
@djseasick 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips I never intended to use the CDJ-2000NXS as a stand-alone unit. I was only gonna to use it for HID. But the changes on the CDJ-3000, I can TOTALLY use it without a computer. I would pay the money for it...
@burieddeep5557
@burieddeep5557 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I'll mention, wifi isn't something that can be "coded in" it would require specific hardware, it's unlikely that wireless will be in like dennon as if you had that chip on the hardware you'd want it working from initial sale and I feel it's posible that they will become wired but they may do what they usually do and cop out by saying you could just use computer hooked up to the network running rekordbox to do that
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
No but like with the SC5000 we didn't know it had built in wifi when it was first released, we're hoping this is the case here
@burieddeep5557
@burieddeep5557 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips didn't think bout that, here's hoping
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
You could be right, but that is not how their competitor launch that function, so who knows?
@johnniep1
@johnniep1 3 жыл бұрын
Denon Beat Jump works the same check out Crossfaders review of sc6000
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for weighing in
@MrLarma
@MrLarma 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the best they can do after how many years, awful placement of hotcues and too small, still the clunky looping. I really hope clubs start switching to Denon
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
This is a nice little update, evolution not revolution but much better than the predecessor and room for improvement down the road via updates
@MrLarma
@MrLarma 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips Updates can only be done to the software, the hardware has missed the mark.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Well obviously, fair enough you don't like it :)
@alchemynd
@alchemynd 3 жыл бұрын
I like the unboxing and instructions by this dude, but I feel that pioneer just brought something out which is so 2007. 💁‍♂️
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me in use they feel great, they bring the Pioneer CDJ experience closer to the feel of DJing on a controller which we definitely like 👌
@alchemynd
@alchemynd 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips Image Pioneer did the mechanic and Apple the chipset, software and screens😆 But you are right, we still need to be aware that our Job as DJ is keept in Human hands as much as possible. 👍
@mistateearuba
@mistateearuba 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I like the bigger screen. Being able to see artist and title at once, and more tracks at once. I like the waveform preview a lot. and great.. The display isn't choppy like an 80s computer anymore. Big deal... It still doesn't justify the price I think. Would I like to have a set.. sure! But not high on my list atm. I would probably try a Denon first and see how that feels before I buy this
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Yes we like the screen as well, a big improvement
@jakarl
@jakarl 3 жыл бұрын
Good insight, thanks Phil Wish I could justify upgrading CDJ2000s...$$$$$ Nice to see more columns available on the screen. More columns available to pick, as you mentioned, would be desirable Based on the 5 digits on track count, does that mean 99999 tracks now allowed to export in a playlist? Traktor HID mode supported? Was so frustrating XDJs took forever to be supported in HID @21:48 Looks like it's only picking 1&2 up/down numeric as per camelot, not the +/-7 semitone? Would love to move the waveform playing marker to the left a bit...preferring to see more upcoming on track than gone (as in Traktor) @29 the live preview ahead wasn't playing in the headphones though? Screen marker stayed still. Love the idea, hope it works as described.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how many tracks are now allowed in playlists. No Traktor HID right now (I don't THINK) - it wasn't mentioned and we didn't test. 21:48 - Correct, that is how it should behave You can move the waveform marker to the left a bit - is is an option. The preview WAS playing in the headphones - it is just that the screen marker doesn't move when you do so. I found that a bit weird too, but be assured it works!
@jakarl
@jakarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@digitaldjtips Thanks
@HMMLHMML
@HMMLHMML 3 жыл бұрын
I Know I'm old...but a Cdj player without a cd player?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 3 жыл бұрын
Yup!
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