100% agreed. It's sad cause I didn't know this till just now and probably many others as well. But this is an important scene by all accounts abuse it tells the backstory of jack and beckett

iirc the director wanted the scene in the movie, but disney thought slavery was too dark for a disney movie and they have the last say

@@skush9146 fuck disney

@@skush9146 They literally hang a child at the start! How much darker can it get?? That's some backwards logic.

@@skush9146 "Slavery is too dark for a disney movie" Meanwhile the beginning of this movie a child literally got hanged.

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Love the line delivery

Says all we need to know about Jack Sparrow

His speech about how people craving cargo, no matter what it is simply being writings on a ledger is probably his answer to that

Interestingly he did call it a "Good deed"

I do not think tha Beckett to be a racist. He would sell annyone if the system would allow it.

Yeah, he's the bad guy.

Seriously. Not like they couldn’t have deleted 4 minutes of footage from somewhere else in the film.

It wouldn't even have made the film that much longer because its an alternative version of the scene we got rather than an extended one, my only thought why they removed it is because it runs as a whole scene and in the actual film it cuts back to Will, Elizabeth, Barbossa, Sao Feng etc. making their own deal

the extended cut will always exist.

@@TSMSnation Is there an extended cut, which includes this scene and maybe others? I also loved the scene, where Davy Jones tells Elizabeths father, that she is dead. And then he wanted to stab Jones and learns about the cost of stabing the heart. I know the father told us later, when the crew sees him in the locker, but I don't mind hearing it twice. Plus it would add more to the character of Elizabeths father. I agree with Mouldy Grapes. I also think, that the Jack-Beckett scene was cut down because of the parallel placing event with the crew. They wanted to put more dynamic in these two scenes and I understand why. But I love these intense dialogues between characters without cutting away from it. Scenes like they exist in the first seasons of Game of Thrones or in Breaking Bad. But series like these came after the Pirates movies. I think the third movie has so much in it, that it could be at least three hours long. And I would love to watch this.

Which is funny because the film itself was a pretty long one regardless

Because it's Disney

Given Jack was going to recruit 100 souls to give to jones to free himself, it makes sense why this was cut. It’d make him look like a hypocrite.

@@Mikeh2077 oh damn, that’s true, though it’s unclear whether Jack would’ve ever gone through with it. Typical Jack Sparrow stuff, to promise the world just to get out of a situation

@@Mikeh2077not really, the point of Jack was that he is a pirate but also a good man. He would’ve backed off. He even hesitated to stab jones heart (he really wanted to) to save will. He would have recruited 100 men but he would never sacrifice them. Just like how he fled from the kraken in part 2 when his crew was dying but then came back. That is the point of his character, like will told becket. „He is a pirate and a good man“

I mean he is ALSO a morally questionable pirate, liar, thief, and murderer.

@@LordVader1094 exactly. . . But in the first movie Elizabeth says to him "but also a good man" if this was made into a canonical backstory then that proves it He is a morally questionable liar, thief and murderer But he also draws a line in the sand ( a man like Sparrow, a Pirate ) but also a "Goodman," just like bootstrap Bill Turner or Will.

It still fits. Jack's dad is a renowned pirate already. He decides not to be a pirate. Works for Beckett, who asks him to smuggle slaves. He chooses not to, which gets him branded as a pirate for life. So, he decides to become a bloody good pirate instead. And then, he goes on to pick a fight with Salazar, thus making a name for himself. This changes nothing about the continuity. Only adds to it. In fact, it even gives a more nuanced tone to Jack's speech to Will in the first movie, when Will says that his father is not a pirate.

iirc the director, etc. wanted the scene more like this in the movie, but disney thought the whole topic of slavery was too dark for a disney movie and they have the last say

@@skush9146 yet countless people are murdered throughout this series lmao

@@skush9146 I mean, they literally killed a bunch of people in the opening scene, children included lmao

@@skush9146 Smh that's so pathetic but believable for some big corporation like Disney.

​@@HABO2210​ yeah it is ridiculous

It's not exactly quite like that, he was exiled from shipwreck cove, framed as being a co-conspirator in a rogue pirate venture - He joined the EITC to hide his identity

I swear I did too! I was just thinking "What do you mean deleted scene?"

SAME I was so confused people were calling it a deleted scene but this is the one I remembered seeing

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I agree. I understand that it is nice to make jack look like a better guy than he seems to be. But he was also ready to send 100 men to their death for davy jones without an issue. So it makes more sense the original way

@@EEGmaghrabi not really, it makes sense for jack cuz he has no personal morals. he freed the slaves cuz he had the opportunity to do so AND escape beckett. for jack its a matter of convenience AND freedom, not just "to make him look like a better guy"

@@tink6225 the fact that they had him say “people aren’t cargo mate” shows that it was because of morals which is trying to make him look like a better guy

@@connor4435 i suppose

​@@tink6225 The thing is that he freed those slaves exactly because of that and this always was his original story (not an addition for this movie) so they are no trying to _make him look like a better guy_ cuz this is the guy he was and is.

Well, technically, it is. In the final released version, we don't hear Beckett recall how Jack made a deal with Davy Jones to raise the pearl from the depths and that Jack set prisoners free that Beckett had enslaved. We also never hear him say "People aren't cargo mate"

@@ck5274 Correct, most of this scene is in the theatre release but Jack's "people aren't cargo mate" line isn't included. This came out a little early for me to accuse Disney of wanting to shield people from the topic of slavery, I believe it was mainly cut because the film is mega long and naturally we don't see any of the events they're referencing as they happened about 15 years before this takes place It really did leave a lot for Beckett on the table though because he actually has more story from before the films begin than what we see of him in the 2 films. Initially positioned near the horn of Africa to oversea the EITC's affairs in the region, commissioning Jack to locate and charter a mission to Zezura, an island cloaked in a distraction curse - Primarily for the sourcing of "black gold" Pirates of the Caribbean: The Price of Freedom - A very good book * side note. this book will make you not like the 5th film (if you didn't dislike it already)