Plane Approaches Too Low

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@josephs3973 Жыл бұрын

Asiana and SFO have a.... uh... complicated relationship.

@Glegh Жыл бұрын

Especially in 777s

@NoName-jl7gs Жыл бұрын

Dont really understand why they‘re not performing a simple ILS approach like everywhere else in the world… 🤷🏻‍♂️

@waqasusmans Жыл бұрын

Yes, Captains Win Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong can attest to that

@Interdictiondeltawing Жыл бұрын

@@waqasusmans and that Ho Lee Fuk pilot

@tallguygarage3627 Жыл бұрын

@@waqasusmansdon't forget bang ding ow

@itsdinnerboneya6785 Жыл бұрын

Asiana and SFO, the low approaches and everything. The bond is unreal

@danielmarcotorrente4437 Жыл бұрын

hahahaha yes

@oly.mp4 Жыл бұрын

+ the same 777 type, being a 777-200

@mrgone658 Жыл бұрын

I hope they learned their lesson.

@CaptainTNTxD Жыл бұрын

It got me clicken when I saw it

@stereoroid Жыл бұрын

same *runway* as well = 28L

@jorhe1 Жыл бұрын

That finnish man cursing about forgetting headphones at 2:40 😂

@cerovk6000 2 ай бұрын

Lol

@DavidKeasal1 Жыл бұрын

777 instructor here. The Asiana 777 looks to me to be on glideslope and actually touches down a little long.

@johnliam3041 Жыл бұрын

Carpet cleaner here. You took the words right out of my mouth

@triple777seven Жыл бұрын

777 fan here, do you know of any scholarships/sponsors willing to fund my dream to fly?

@davidkeasal6542 Жыл бұрын

To ask those looking for a scholarship, it varies from country to country. I have heard that there are scholarships in Canada for Canadians. Other than that, check in your own country. Frankly, though, I'm very much out of touch with the primary training possibilities.

@triple777seven Жыл бұрын

@@davidkeasal6542 noted🙏

@deankruse2891 Жыл бұрын

video game player here, i could have landed in half the runway length.

@imkeerock Жыл бұрын

Asiana was just fine the whole time. The reason it looked lower is because it was farther ahead, so it had to be lower in order to make the touchdown zone, which it did.

@Daniel-go6ci Жыл бұрын

SFO 28L also has a 2.85 degree glide slope instead of the normal 3.00 as on 28R.

@sussertheoriginal Жыл бұрын

I had to look again. That's what causes the illusion.

@imkeerock Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-go6ci great catch! That would make the other plane look even lower.

@cflyin8 Жыл бұрын

The parallel approaches at SF require one airplane to be the lead plane, so the other aircraft can keep them in sight and maintain visual separation. Here the Asiana plane was ahead and lower so the Virgin America Airbus was following. Pretty impressive that the 777’s VREF is so close to the A319/320/321 (whatever Airbus model that was).

@effewe2 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Gregorius421 Жыл бұрын

The Asiana landing was buttery smooth, as if it was a challenge not to wake up the baby sleeping in row 20.

@sir_john_hammond Жыл бұрын

Nah, the baby was busy crying at the top of their lungs already due to air pressure changes.

@RehanDean Жыл бұрын

PFFFFFFTTTTT🤣🤣🤣

@drpaine7428 Жыл бұрын

smooth is not what you want out of a landing, that's how you run out of runway. You want the pilot to stick the landing at the beginning of the runway

@jicklesjingles8134 Жыл бұрын

@@drpaine7428 exactly!

@samrapheal1828 Жыл бұрын

@@drpaine7428 Exactamondo 💯

@coriscotupi Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with the Asiana approach. It's definitely not "too low".

@TaylenIsInsane Жыл бұрын

Asiana flight was hella smooth. If I was a passenger on the row seats, I would've never known we had landed.

@darioinfini Жыл бұрын

Didn't look to me like they were low but daaaaamn that was a smooth landing. I think taxiing to the gate was probably bumpier than that landing.

@michaelerb9143 Жыл бұрын

Greased it. Barely any tire smoke.

@alm4132 Жыл бұрын

Southwest pilots take note!

@mr.verification9993 Жыл бұрын

@@alm4132 Southwest pilots don't have gear tilt and 12 wheels.

@alm4132 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.verification9993 Got excuses though!!!

@mr.verification9993 Жыл бұрын

@@alm4132 It's not a plane meant to be buttered. There's a reason you're unemployed.

@fritz46 Жыл бұрын

"Too low" is what happened on July 6, 2013. This was somewhere between "low" and "perfectly normal", probably closer to the latter.

@BombFruitReal 8 күн бұрын

Renember the number, 214……

@lehak_440 Жыл бұрын

People who know Asiana flight 214 💀

@sharkie719mm2 2 ай бұрын

Bang ding ow 💀💀

@planespotterronish 2 ай бұрын

Who doesn't know?

@크라스카001 2 ай бұрын

💀

@pro_aviationPl 2 ай бұрын

@@planespotterronish👍

@brianjohnson3444 Ай бұрын

That's the first thing that came to my mind.

@WabbitRB Жыл бұрын

Excellent clips! The first demonstrates buttering the runway, the second shows years of expertise, and the third displays precision flying.

@bayly1977 Жыл бұрын

Years of experience 😂😂😂 he absolutely butchered the landing and deceleration

@MoveoverAndbark Жыл бұрын

I checked and "buttering the runway" is an expression ( love Urban Dictionary )...but before I checked, I thought of "Last Tango in Paris"/Maria Schneider....

@woozy7405 Жыл бұрын

Thanks I did them all

@MadeInGreatBritain Жыл бұрын

Looked like a super smooth landing to me

@R2Bl3nd Жыл бұрын

The problem is, a super low approach like that is not safe. I forget the exact reasons why but they need to be within the glide path or else there's various issues that could happen. Like if there was a sudden downward gust of wind, it's better to be higher up when the plane isn't over the runway.

@MadeInGreatBritain Жыл бұрын

@@R2Bl3nd fair point!

@marvinidler2289 Жыл бұрын

@@R2Bl3nd Or engine failure/bird strike on final. If too low you may not reach the runway.

@jonathanm9436 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It might have been on the lower side (although I think visual parallax from the higher plane was more likely), but it was stabilised the whole way in and hit right on the aiming markers.

@MadeInGreatBritain Жыл бұрын

(I’d rather have been on that plane than the second one 🤣)

@-Bill. Жыл бұрын

That wasn't refueling... that's how you get baby F-18s. Nature sure is amazing!

@Boss_Tanaka Жыл бұрын

Don’t be ridiculous. It s an F18 towing an other F18

@skydiverclassc2031 Жыл бұрын

@@Boss_Tanaka Next time don't park in the handicapped zone.

@stephen_cs Жыл бұрын

A hell of a lot cheaper too

@diambo4life 3 ай бұрын

lmao

@Androctonus84 Жыл бұрын

I’ve definitely had a much “lower” landing at SFO. Coming in from Monterey in rough weather, at night, with heavy fog. Broke through the fog in time to see dark water right under the wing, gasp, and then hit tarmac, all in the span of a single second.

@georgeascione8861 Жыл бұрын

So I agree with most of the comments, he doesn't look low to me in fact he seems to be the same approach height as the plane where the video was taken. Looks like a beautiful approach to me.

@stevorules1820 Жыл бұрын

That's so cool how the Asiana plane was lower in altitude the entire time yet they both touched down at the same time.

@Volvo_EG Жыл бұрын

Probably because the Asiana was just a couple of hundred feet in front and therefore lower. Is would say at the same distance to airport they probably had the same height.

@redwoodcactusnorthwest5219 Жыл бұрын

@@Volvo_EG It’s not just perception. You are partly correct. But even when completely abeam, the 28R airplane is usually slightly higher than 28L traffic. This is because the 28L PAPI is set up at 2.85 degrees, 28R is set up for 3.00 degrees.

@sailaab Жыл бұрын

Redwood Cactus Northwest 👍🏼

@Silo-Ren Жыл бұрын

Yeah, had a similar experience flying into Dallas one time except that it was flight with about 60 drunken guy's from NYC on our way to see the Giants play the Cowboys. But is was funny as heck as they were all yelling and rooting for our plane to touch down first. Lol. 😂

@stevorules1820 Жыл бұрын

@@Silo-Ren that sounds like the most epic flight ever lol.

@neuronbob Жыл бұрын

I love being in a plane on SFO approach on a nice day. Always awesome to watch dual landings. Only thing better would be a triple wide at ATL..

@CaptainGoldberg Жыл бұрын

We've got some triple wides in ATL. You don't want to be stuck in between them on a long flight.

@ThunderSong Жыл бұрын

the view at night is unreal also. Especially with a full moon on all the water

@MoveoverAndbark Жыл бұрын

so you like threeways? I would rather have planes do their own thing in safe distance zones, and I'm sure they all did/would, but that's my ignorance/precaution talking to myself...

@tornadokat Жыл бұрын

Landing in SFO is always interesting because you feel like the plane is about to ditch in the water.

@lbowsk 11 ай бұрын

Funny, I never feel like that.

@ralphripoff1 Жыл бұрын

Video title: Plane is too low! First frame of the video: Actually it's perfect!

@colesherman6849 Жыл бұрын

That was a buttery 777 landing!

@MG_Steve Жыл бұрын

That 777 buttered the landing - nice!

@marzoval9551 Жыл бұрын

1:57 - David Attenborough: "And here we see up in the sky two hornets performing a mating ritual midflight. Quite extraordinary."

@TheStuport Жыл бұрын

LOVED The Dual Landings at the very beginning! On a side note, I was sweating bullets not seeing your "Plane" on the Kiosks for Times of Video Arrivals in my KZfaq Mailbox!🤣 Glad you all made it safely! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To ALL Who Fly With 3 Minutes Of Aviation!

@CapStar362 Жыл бұрын

one day someone, if not me as i live in ATL, will get a three wide landing video - KATL has 3 Parallel landing runways. 9R/27L, 8L/26R and 10/28 you can see that on ADSB all the time as well.

@TheStuport Жыл бұрын

@@CapStar362 Appreciate your response and heads up info CapStar! Cheers From The Concourse In COW-lumbus, Ohio MOO

@coasternut3091 Жыл бұрын

I love watching the parallel ILS into Atlanta. Looks pretty similar without the water

@RotiSabziOP Жыл бұрын

I don't think that Asiana flight had a low approach. It was obviously ahead and thus probably it was low. I feel like the approach was perfect.

@haarylmao Жыл бұрын

as a pilot myself, that Asiana’s approach was perfectly fine

@maxenceleboeuf Жыл бұрын

The fact it's an Asiana 777 doing a low approach at SFO is... ironic to say the least.

@AFootballFan10 Жыл бұрын

Wait no no no no no I don’t like where this is going

@starguy2718 Жыл бұрын

@@AFootballFan10 Sum Ting Wong

@n666eo Жыл бұрын

It wasn't a low approach however.

@tommcglone2867 Жыл бұрын

@@starguy2718 Wi Tu Low Ho Lee Fuk Bang Ding Ow

@DeathByPancake7 Жыл бұрын

@@n666eo The public eat up his videos.

@LetsGoBrandon_ Жыл бұрын

Love that approach into SFO.. double landed many times there.

@velodjk2975 Жыл бұрын

The approach into SFO is about as close us regular passengers will get to an aircraft carrier type landing. (Much larger scale at SFO.) Water, water, water, water, land and touchdown.

@icollectstories5702 Жыл бұрын

Except for the sea wall.☹

@pushslice Жыл бұрын

I actually think OAK just a handful of miles away is a better example. Just my own eyeballs, but the distance from water to runway threshold seems to be a few feet shorter (and it’s from both approaches , not just approaching 280*)

@Mafuskas Жыл бұрын

I think this is one of the best 3MA I've seen yet. Thank you!

@johnandrews3568 Жыл бұрын

That wing strike landing looked like it was just dropping vertically, like a helicopter. Great angle.

@oscrrrr Жыл бұрын

Me at first: Asiana 214?!

@RCPlaneBuilder2005 Жыл бұрын

Same

@Dylan-jj8xc Жыл бұрын

Yu So Dum

@Kuswara1947 Жыл бұрын

Damn i think its the second same incident :v

@timkremer1113 Жыл бұрын

3:11min!!! Thank you for 11 more seconds of Aviation - we are back in business now 😁

@Chizzly_briz Жыл бұрын

Damn that asiana 777 had an absolute buttery smooth landing

@robertgriffin662 Жыл бұрын

The 1st landing looks awesome! I couldn't have done any better! (By the way I'm not pilot)

@sanddabz5635 Жыл бұрын

But do you play one on TV?

@robertgriffin662 Жыл бұрын

@@sanddabz5635 why yes, I do but tell anyone! Ha!

@sanddabz5635 Жыл бұрын

@@robertgriffin662 😂

@zekeonstormpeak4186 Жыл бұрын

The Asiana landing looked perfect!!

@EJofLA 2 ай бұрын

That first clip of parallel landings was sublime poetry in flight- ahhh! Thanks filmer, poster and hoster.

@games1004 11 ай бұрын

2:15 As a pilot, we are not supposed to land with the “crab angle” like that. We’re supposed to put in the corrective rudder input (right rudder in this case) at the last moment. This is why, the sudden grab of the tires, and the top-over rolling force from the wind can do this.

@joephysics5469 Жыл бұрын

I've flown virtually every kind of approach and most of the time been able to hit the touchdown zone just right. What makes you question yourself is when you fly a text. Book picture perfect approach and completely mess that zone or land hard. Landings are the best reason to fly.

@irelandbloke Жыл бұрын

That first shot is awesome 👍

@RuiPlaneSpotter Жыл бұрын

Fantastic!

@macrovigilance Жыл бұрын

great filming by the passenger in the chase plane at SFO!

@verifiedtoxicangel2411 Жыл бұрын

"Filming ?"....i wish film was used like back in the day, but i dont think so time to retire that word i guess...

@iyctthgootk Жыл бұрын

At no time did that plane look to low to me🤷

@lars_geurts45 Жыл бұрын

1:19 i once landed on schiphol in a klm 777 in a storm on my way back from NYC. We where weaving side to side. I can only imagine how it looked on the outside

@macadoocrue4595 Жыл бұрын

Too low? That looked legit

@cesarrinconmayorga5309 Жыл бұрын

Everyone talking about the Asiana Airlines landing, but noone talking about that HK Airlines freak landing! That took really sick skills.

@lbowsk 11 ай бұрын

There was actually very little skill on display. That was pathetic.

@cesarrinconmayorga5309 11 ай бұрын

@@lbowsk Landing safely is never ever pathetic.

@aydinsoy 3 ай бұрын

(B777 captain here) I normally hesitate to talk bad about colleagues. But the Hong Kong Airlines pilot unnecessarily applied too much right rudder after landing, and then tried to correct things with a huge rudder input to the left (into the wind -which you normally would never ever do!). Unfortunately it’s solely a case of pilot induced oscillations on the rollout. In fact, I’m quite surprised, that most comments were about the perfectly normal approach of Asiana to SFO instead.

@jimrockford3662 Жыл бұрын

That wasn’t low, it was PERFECT

@harrynikken Жыл бұрын

Sensationalist/deceitful title for a perfect approach and landing!

@mazboengineer Жыл бұрын

Beautiful parallel touchdown 🫶🏼

@AhmedMohamedAbdel-Azim 2 ай бұрын

They almost recreated Asiana 214💀💀💀

@Zinericks Жыл бұрын

2:45 I would go to that race only for that

@josephastier7421 7 ай бұрын

That was the smoothest landing anyone has ever made at SFO.

@MorrisseysMonkey Жыл бұрын

The San Fran landing looked spot on to me.

@axenos2004 Жыл бұрын

He did not approach it too low, he was just that good😎

@roderickcampbell2105 Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Really great clips. Thanks and thanks to those who captured.

@SHARKGAMERYT66 2 ай бұрын

This reminds me of when I went on holiday. I was on a BA a320-200 and there was a321 landing parallel

@TheEldario Жыл бұрын

that's a perfectly executed PRM approach on 28L + R at KSFO! 28L has a straight in ILS, while 28R has a 3°right of centerline offset and a >3° glideslope

@johnaclark1 Жыл бұрын

Wrong, wrong and wrong. First, PRM approaches are no longer available at SFO. Even if they were, these are obviously visual approaches (clear blue sky) and PRM approaches would still have the airplanes staggered further apart. Both ILS's are straight down the runways at 284 degrees. 28L has a 2.85 degree glideslope while 28R has 3.0 degree glideslope. The 2.85 degree glideslope is why Aisiana looked lower...it's because he was and was supposed to be.

@kevinwayne7110 Жыл бұрын

asia almost nailed it perfectly... nothing too low

@RaphaelRippinger Жыл бұрын

OMG!! It was soooo low that it landed in the end! Was that intended?

@ROMEROME1990 Жыл бұрын

The Asiana 777 landing 🛬 at SFO in video is just fine. That was how Asiana 214 was suppose to execute the landing 🛬 back in 2013, when it crashed 💥 landed 🛬 .

@zndjrisudoqz Жыл бұрын

Asiana 777 absolutely buttering the bread with that approach/landing

@Dr_Larken Жыл бұрын

2:54 anybody else see the helicopter in front of the nose, but 1000 feet up above 787

@3xceIIent Жыл бұрын

Yes! I think that helicopter pilot probably shit his pants.

@williamburke8242 Жыл бұрын

0:21 landing for real almost together

@asndbpdsa 3 ай бұрын

I have been on that exact approach to SFO. I will admit it is unsettling to get so close to the water with no runway in sight, but then such a relief once the land shoots into frame from underneath.

@fbella69 7 ай бұрын

There was absolutely nothing wrong with that Asiana landing - buttery smooth. Well done.

@finnurth Жыл бұрын

That first one was a very smooth and comfortable landing for the passengers

@jamesstafford6543 Жыл бұрын

So it wasn’t too low

@DB-qw6xq Жыл бұрын

Bit of an over-dramatic title, it didn't look too low at all!

@foxrocksinsocks488 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see passenger video inside the Asiana flight split screened against this footage to see how gentle that landing actually was. Please @3 Minutes of Aviation if you can find this footage.

@Ahlurglgr Жыл бұрын

That plane from the first clip wasn't "too low". It wasn't any lower than the other plane (from which it was recorded). Well, it WAS slightly lower but only because it was slightly ahead on descend. The second plane would be at the same altitude but like a second later. You can see that their touchdowns were on the same point of their corresponding runways

@joemann2178 Жыл бұрын

Big rudder on the Hong Kong airlines landing 😐

@DavidWsTrainVideos Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t wanted to be in the back of that plane

@koharumi1 2 ай бұрын

That Asiana plane landed on the same runway as Asiana flight 214 which makes it even better!

@psp747 Жыл бұрын

Actually, it’s not too low. As you might notice that aircraft is at approximately the same height as the airplane that it is being filmed from.

@tunaismeYT 2 ай бұрын

0:16 Asians 214 vibes

@noobatroblox. 2 ай бұрын

That first one was not Asiana 214 🤦‍♂️

@jesuschristiscallingyou953 Жыл бұрын

2:20 I almost felt a sympathetic tummy tickle just watching that! 😮

@foxt1042 Жыл бұрын

We landed at SFO in a 737. We passed a lower flying 747 on our final approach. However, by the time we were really close to landing, the 747 passed us, landing slightly ahead of us. Very strange!

@LuizHartkopf Жыл бұрын

747 is heavier and has a higher landing speed than the 737

@ultimaterelaxation6022 Жыл бұрын

What he said☝

@jefftynan9274 Жыл бұрын

@@LuizHartkopf Not always. The 737-900 often has landing speeds higher than a 747.

@AA-tz2bm 9 күн бұрын

@@jefftynan9274well it is a pencil after all

@the_bottomfragger Жыл бұрын

Asiana and SFO is just a terrifying combination, just like Air Canada and well.. SFO

@seraphik Жыл бұрын

i've landed in sfo a million times and every single time i feel like i'm about to drop into the bay. it's just how you have to fly it. almost feels like the ground scoops up under you as you finally come in over the runway.

@mohammadanadani7898 Жыл бұрын

That was such a beautiful touch down

@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын

Asiana avoiding the SFO sea wall is genuinely newsworthy

@mcpr5971 Жыл бұрын

I think you've become the best youtuber - not from reposting other people's aviation clips, but with false and misleading headlines. That's no easy feat, good job!

@CaptainGoldberg Жыл бұрын

That Hong Kong Airlines A330 looked like it was drifting for a few seconds there.

@StephenHogan Жыл бұрын

🎶DEJA VU!! 🚗

@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid Ай бұрын

@@StephenHogan Never felt this much wind before. (sliding on concrete) And now I know it's time to slow. (calling you) And the surface is slippery. (drifting skills are leet) It's so hard when I try to taxi. Whooooooa! 🤟😆🤟

@allezvenga7617 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your sharing

@thomabb 2 ай бұрын

That cross wind landing had to be one heck of a ride for the passengers. There isn't much lateral restraints on the passenger cabin seats.

@efoxxok7478 Жыл бұрын

Asiana was not “too low”…. The parallel aircraft was behind by enough distance that at normal descent rates the trailing aircraft would be about 75 ft higher, which it was.

@brianwilson8983 Жыл бұрын

Yep, ILS PRM approach. These videos are deceiving

@efoxxok7478 Жыл бұрын

@@sg-yq8pm another wonderful person who can’t argue facts so goes straight to name calling.

@MrAvGeekMan Жыл бұрын

Though it was gonna be a recreation of Asiana 214 flight (the First one)

@lordsofgaming1060 Жыл бұрын

that was a butter smooth landing at a normal height, i praise the pilots for that nice landing

@kronsclips 2 ай бұрын

That was one of the smoothest boeing 777 landings I’ve ever seen!

@jimw1615 Жыл бұрын

That airline has learned not to get behind the power curve and low going into SFO. The SWA may have been a bit high to remain above any wake turbulence that might have rolled over into their glide path, also, even though they weren't that far behind the B772.

@kuhoku9268 Жыл бұрын

Wasn't a swa, this is an old video as the plane the video belongs to is a Virgin America A320