Planet: The Basics

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Anthony Dawson

Anthony Dawson

4 жыл бұрын

Discover the first mainline passenger express locomotive from back in 1830!
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@foowashere
@foowashere 3 жыл бұрын
I think this empty comment field _demands_ an appreciative comment. Most impressive stuff, thank you for making and sharing!
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou. (I think everyone must have been stunned into silence).
@robinfryer479
@robinfryer479 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Anthony, I really appreciated your interesting response. Oak was bad, because it corroded the through-bolts. (Ahrons). Honestly, I have no idea what the axles were made of, but what is crucial, is radiusing corners. E.G., where the axle was thinner, it’s important that where the thin bit meets the fat bit, there should be a concave corner. We know about this, these days, but in her time, it may mot have been understood. Versailles train wreck and fire. 4-wheeled loco broke its crank axle, derailed... and all the other stuff.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Ash was preferred for that reason. It was also lighter, too. The axles were wrought iron, hand-forged as the Steam Hammer had yet to be invented. You can find out more about the accident at Meudon in 1842 here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iN6GY9li0b-se4k.html
@nicolaslocatelli_CH
@nicolaslocatelli_CH 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is amazing ! When most of the people in Europe think about steam locomotives, they think about those big black classic locomotives we can see in movies about WWII or movies that happen in 1930's. A lot of people do not know the XIXth century locomotives where very different from those of the time of our grand parents and grand grand parents.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you :D :D
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 2 жыл бұрын
This video seems like an important introduction to an idea that I didn't realize I wanted to explore: the question of how small locomotives and small railways were conducted before they became giant semi-national behemoths.
@badkittynomilktonight3334
@badkittynomilktonight3334 2 жыл бұрын
I was so surprised to see Planet appear in the BBC Victoria series a couple years ago.
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo 3 жыл бұрын
this locomotive was great and having no patten is why this tech advanced so quickly.
@DHW256
@DHW256 8 ай бұрын
There was a Planet engine put to work by the Tuscumbia, Courtland and Decatur Railroad in Alabama in 1833. I don't know if it was a real Planet or a copy maee in the United States; but it was and is acknowledged as a Planet. The engine ran on pig iron rails that were too thin and pliable, so that they warped under the weight of the engine, requiring frequent stops for the screw repair and align the rails. In 1838, this Planet and its train carried a detachment of the Cherokee "Trail of Tears" between Decatur and Tuscumbia. The transfer took twelves hours.
@thisisbob1001
@thisisbob1001 Жыл бұрын
Would be good if you do a video about Leicester and swanington original locos Or the ones on midland counties railway
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 3 жыл бұрын
excellent
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information of the Prins Agust
@martinlintzgy1361
@martinlintzgy1361 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Unitarians and Quakers seem to figure very frequently in the early days of steam locomotives. Whatever happened to them?
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Both are still active, liberal, forward-thinking denominations in the UK. Not as large or as powerful as they were in the C19th, they're still there.
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 2 жыл бұрын
I am reminded than Richard Nixon was a Quaker as well.
@kingtiger4444
@kingtiger4444 3 жыл бұрын
very interesting................ thak you
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@robinfryer479
@robinfryer479 3 жыл бұрын
I read in EL Ahrons that the practice of multiple frames, to strengthen -or better support- crank axles, was, in actual fact, to weaken them or case them to break. This is counter intuitive. But once crank axles ran in only two bearings, they stopped breaking. Not, perhaps relevant to planet, but when straight 6 and particularly EIGHT cylinder internal combustion engines were ‘invented’, crank-shafts broke frequently. The failed R101 airship had straight-eight cylinder Beardmore Diesel engines, which had to restrict their maximum RPM, thus not realise their intended power output, because their crankshafts invariably broke. I also read that a Crompton (class 33) 8-cylinder Sulzer engine broke its crankshaft, owing to the crankshaft-damper, overheating and seizing up -and failing to suppress the torsional oscillations. I expect everyone knows all about this, and so I hope it wasn’t boring.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Robin, thanks for your comment. Nice to hear from you. Whilst having multiple supports for the crank axle was in theory sound, it meant, and this was in they days long before optical alignment - that all the bearings had to be exactly in line. Initially only the outside bearings on Planet et al were actually load-bearing but as time went on the inner bearings received springs as well so that they too absorbed some of the load. The big problem with these early axles was that they broke where they stepped down in diameter, particularly where they inserted into the wheel. The shoulder radii were too small and no stress-relieving grooves had been machined into them. I cover this in my book on L&M locomotives and in a book I'm writing at the moment about Planet.
@eliotreader8220
@eliotreader8220 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory was the original loco fitted with name plates? I understand that the pictures of Planet don't show her fitted with name plates?
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
@@eliotreader8220 She did have a name plate. Isaac Shaw shows one in 1831. It's probably the most reliable depiction we have of the engine.
@eliotreader8220
@eliotreader8220 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory was original engine fitted with a steam whistle at some point during her working life
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
@@eliotreader8220 certainly yes. Same with the entire L&M fleet.
@fernandoqueirozpopovic7024
@fernandoqueirozpopovic7024 2 жыл бұрын
Such a disappointment when I hears she was scraped, but at least the replica is as close to the real thing as we could dream of
@kevinolsen8779
@kevinolsen8779 3 жыл бұрын
We really should have a good OO or HO scale model of this locomotive
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 3 жыл бұрын
There are 3D printed models available. They're absolutely tiny.
@DangerAngelous
@DangerAngelous Жыл бұрын
Piracy in the 1830s: you wouldn’t download a train
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын
I laughed far, far too hard at that. Thank you!
@DangerAngelous
@DangerAngelous Жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory It was the only reasonable conclusion ;)
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