LGR thanks Internet

kickstarter, good if your a youtuber, bad if you are a company. basing that off of this vs ouya

LGR you just spoiled the fun, thank you. i wont read the comment section before the video finishes.

IN A DAY!? Bejesus! I do like the fact that there is a healthy retro homebrew scene out there that old and new folk are appreciating. I'm old skool but showing today's kids that this is how things were back in the 80's and how imagination filled in a chunk of the gaps is a great way to learn about retro tech and gaming Unless there already is, there needs to be a hub for good stuff like this and even programmers, artists, musicians and publishers to pool their resources and efforts and make great retro games.

HE DID IT ALREADY?! JESUS CHRIST!!

That won't be a problem, as the CEO, founder and President of Murray Megagames inc. His world class team of software engineers will do the heavy lifting there.

With Dos-Box X3 should be on GOG and Steam. :)

Will Planet X4 be 3D?

Triple M nah... Just put make it for Android and ios

CyDragonGM - Ehhh...Are you stupid? If he wanted he could. Not hard at all to learn to program for a new platform if you are experienced. BTW: Ever heard of Unity?! *LOL* _Unity supports building to 27 different platforms. The platforms are listed in the following: iOS, Android, Tizen, Windows, Universal Windows Platform, Mac, Linux, WebGL, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Vita, Xbox One, Wii U, 3DS, Oculus Rift, Google Cardboard, Steam VR, PlayStation VR, Gear VR, Windows Mixed Reality, Daydream, Android TV, Samsung Smart TV, tvOS, Nintendo Switch, Fire OS, Facebook Gameroom, Apple ARKit, Google ARCore, and Vuforia._

Could *you* do any better, Requim?

Requim Dream Lol your just jealous. If you don't like him why TF are you here!?

Requim Dream you high as fuck dude. You'll be sorry soon. Chill out.

Mate, that's very unfeasible. You'll need to learn C, C++, and even x86 assembly, not to mention that you'll need to write every routine for the monitor, keyboard, mouse, and other things like that. I wish you the best of luck, but, you're simply making a fool of yourself here.

Requim Dream You use Windows and not Linux.

Yeah, Rob! What's up with you these days? We miss you! (Well, not _you;_ just your videos. Haha, kidding!) Ope, Dude 800, ya beat me to it!

but get this imagine he went for A8 instead of PC even a name would fit Planet XL...

That'd have to be more of a sideways port of X2, though, and it might even have to be cut down more towards the VIC level because of having less memory available (depending on machine config and graphics mode). Still, be pretty neat to see that too, and of course it would have to have the name changed.

We miss your videos. Really, we do.

Aahaha ! Thanks !

Yes, the art is great.

Omg dude!! I beg of you start making more drawing/painting videos!!! You are a huge inspiration!!! @Renopixellu

Just adding a second +1 here!

Murray you think you are a real Stracciatella right?! 😠 You start to make me angry Murray Stracciatella! 😠 OooOoOooh look at that Curry Masala, it's Planet X3 I'm sooo cool, X3 is coming guys, I'm the super developer! Look at my Kickstarter, I call it Klckstarter! It clicks like a mouse! Ohhh sooo cool Murray! I'm Murray look at me!

Requim Dream Wat?

Ante Radić OooOoOooh look at me I'm Murray with my Planet X game...

Ante Radić Exactly my thought, wtf is this guy trying to say

$23,833 so far :D ... wait thats like $5000 in the last hour between your and my comment !

EscapeMCP the kickstarter went live about 3 or so hours ago, that’s pretty good so far.....

EscapeMCP it's really shocking me

Over $30,000 now

Jobs a goodun :)

Jkl Cvb literally, it should be a 3d game that runs on 3dfx graphics or something in the future

Hopefully it enters deep into the 90s, CnC era eventually.

Watch him start his own company and become the next Valve

And the brackets are only accessible with Alt Gr. So either use keys that are the same for every layout, or have some config files. Maybe presets for the most common layouts. qwerty, qwertz, azerty and so on.

If you check the pressed key via its scancode, it doesn't matter what keyboard layout you have. It's always the same key on the same position, regardless of what's printed on it or what keyboard driver is loaded. That's the reason why in every other DOS game you have to press 'Z' on a QWERTZ keyboard in order to answer [Y/N] with yes.

kpanic23 good to know. Tnx!

Following the current theme of letting Internet name things, I bet it will be Shippy McShipface. No but really, I hope it will me something fitting and as awesome as the story art!

>I bet it will be Shippy McShipface If I had the money, it would be. U.S.S. Shippy McShipFace 4 the win!!

I'll be incredibly surprised if the ship isn't called "The Commodore"

i remember a episode of Colombo ( the policeman) where the killer was the Commodore :)))

I am hoping they call it the Navuu.

I agree, it is looking amazing, though I wonder if he would be open to working with GOG to bring a digital delux edition to an online market place.

Im keen for a vinyl as well

Maybe at the same time, he could collect indications of interest from boxless X2 owners who would be interested in getting an actual box for their game. If that itself reaches 500 (the minimum, I expect, is applied to how many boxes you order _of a particular design,_ not just in total potentially with all different designs, because the press has to have new plates made, or at least be stopped and have new files loaded if it's an all-digital model, for each different design; though possibly you could split the run 50:50, or if ordering 1000 total have 250 of one and 750 of the other?), then a fresh batch can be made of [however many orders x 110%], and the printed boxes shipped out flat for the bidders to build themselves at minimal postage cost.

duh, patreon

Bud Riley via Patreon, you get the videos a few days early - plus you get some Patreon only videos and David regularly interacts with the comments, etc.

Just bought the deluxe combo - still kicking myself for waiting a day until I got paid to get the full boxed c64 version, only to have it sell out a couple of hours later.

Yes, 360x480 would be awesome for hi-res 256-color mode!

If he actually wants to add online multiplayer, he should get in touch with me. I've done DOS TCP/IP coding.

lmao

DMadHacks I hope so

Probably at some point.

vinyl would be more than awesome! 😄

DMadHacks are you a real villain?

I think it never happen.

onedeadsaint need that kick starter link now!

Robeight agreed!

I tried that too, but nothing happened !!

I would do the same of I wasn't broke

How was this 5 days ago if this video was uploaded 7 hours ago?

The CD audio version I'd especially love! Perhaps it could work like a PS1 disc (I don't know how old-school CD ROMS worked, but here me out), where the whole game and CD-quality soundtrack are stored on the disc, but then in gameplay it could play the CD quality tunes, and then pop the thing into a car stereo or something and rock out on the way to Albuquerque! EDIT: Yes I am aware CD Rom stuff was a bit later than what he is targeting, but Win95, Win3.1, etc. are compatible with CD's (at least via drivers) and are natively compatible with DOS itself.

PS1 CDs with CD audio worked the same way as regular mixed mode CDs for the Sega Saturn, PC, etc etc - Track 1 of the disc is a data track for game information, and Track 2 and onwards are regular CD audio tracks. That's why you could pop it into your car stereo and rock out... though some CD players weren't smart enough to ignore Track 1 (most players will skip it if they see it's labeled as data) and blasted static in your face until you skipped it.

You bet I am. Been playing an early version on my IBM XT and it's looking awesome already, especially under composite CGA.

awesome. Totally looking forward seeing the review! I love both of you guys :D

Watch, it'll turn out to be LGR who did the $500 option lmao ...

No. But you can get Spacey McSpaceship.

Someone already bought it. 😞

So disappointed. The $500 pledge is gone. Besides, Spacey McSpaceship sounds better.

Spacey McFaceship

Freely remappable keys are always a good thing. And really, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to just capture whatever the user selects straight into the memory locations that would otherwise be occupied by hard-coded ones loaded from disc, from where they would work completely transparently.

Speak English you snow Mexican

Der Kaiser not all people speak English. Some people speak old English too

Is that the language more properly known as "real English", versus the strange and watered down version used in the United States?

I would expect it's going to be as much of an actual issue as it is for any other game or program that uses those keys for some function. If you're doing it right, then the function should map either to - if it's more reliant on layout and relative positioning - the actual key position regardless of what's on the cap (e.g. for FPSes or most games where you'll keep your hands in a particular position most of the time), or if it's a mnemonic it should be altered on a codemap by codemap basis (e.g. most Windows and serious software shortcuts - including in this case the use of Ctrl + squarebrackets to change font size in word processors, which would need remapping in some regions - and non-positional key commands such as unit grouping and scattering in RTSes). There's only so many common regional codes for DOS, so it shouldn't take too much time. Or of course, the proper way is to just allow free remapping, either via an in-game menu, or a simple text config file.

3¼" disk? ;)

They were real. One of my father's college friends help develop it. The particular case was some obscure games on a PCJr. I played, probably when I was 13 or so.

As I remember back in the days, the problem was more the other way around: the manual would say 'use [ ] to switch weapon' but on a French keyboard it would be on the number keys. However, the keys to press were still at the physical location where the game designers had plan. The only thing was to identify the french character that would send a US square brace. Still perfectly playable. All we need is David to ignore internationalisation and it would be at the same time historically accurate, and just fine for the player (unless dosbox tries to be clever and converts the keyboard layout...)

Antoine is right. Games never check for character input, just for a specific key press. Remember the game saying "Press Y to quit" and you had to press "Z"? So, with a German keyboard you would have to press "Ü" and "+" for "[" and "]". I don't think that Dosbox causes problems in this regard.

Andrä Hubl I would be playing on original hardware. That's a good point, I agree, if the game really checks for keys and not symbols.

I can agree with this as a Japanese. Japanese (JIS) keyboard is "+" = Shift + ";" key. and There is also "^" on the right of "-". "[" and "]" Has a single key. but Japan's MS-DOS era was a personal computer of its own standard. (PC-9801, etc.) If I play Planet X3 for MS-DOS, I will consider DOSBox etc.

Andrä Hubl Games that rely on BIOS/DOS keyboard handler depend on the configured locale (aka codepage), but if they have their own keyboard handlers (needed for anything that needs to be able to see multiple keys being pressed at once) then it should depend just on the keycode that the key at that location sends, not on the character it's supposed to have.

I'm not sure how familiar he is with Adlib or PC Speaker, but he (and some of his DA friends like Zabutom and GEM/TOS) should be able to make something pretty amazing with the Tandy chip, given that it's quite similar to the YM2419 that they've all variously made music for both directly, and in simulated form via a sample-tracker (which would also create a route for reusing the Tandy music on a GUS or even a Soundblaster, so long as the host machine was fast enough to handle replaying 4 channels at 16+ khz). It'd also be convertible to e.g. the Game Blaster or Mockingbird cards with very little effort. If we're going to go hunting through the Chiptune community for potential musicians, there are plenty of others who are adept at twisting the Adlib in knots who should be more than capable of making slightly simpler compositions suitable for backing music in a game (where it needs to be non-irritating even after multiple repeats, and leave at least 1 or 2 channels free for SFX), such as (to pluck at the air) Diode Milliampere. PC Speaker wise, I'm less familiar, but I know there's enough sceners who have produced results little short of witchcraft who would probably be up for the challenge. Although really you'd only want a title theme for that and reserve it for effects in-game, having screecher music playing continually throughout would end up really getting on your nerves... The interesting thing with this tactic is that it's likely to end up with three entirely different sets of music for each option... which would be a pretty cool selling point, but also rather inflate the game code and potentially complicate things. It might be better instead to aim for a Lite version of LucasArts iMUSE system, which would have the music defined as notes of various priority levels played on particular logical instruments, plus drivers for each hardware option that would definite patches for each instrument particular to the target's capabilities, and individual approaches to handling cases where there are more notes trying to play than there are actual hardware channels available - e.g. rapidly alternating (tremelo/arpeggio style) between notes of the same priority that may be defining a chord whilst completely ignoring those below a certain priority level. Then again, THAT might end up more complex and requiring more disc space than simply including entirely different soundtracks targeted specifically to certain popular sound hardware options...

Or FantomenK

mspenrice totally agree, good post. Sceners would be the best choice I feel, lots of information there on getting things small/compressed and running them as fast as possible. Data Airlines defs would have some contacts :D.

Not sure about FantomenK, I only know him(?) from Newgrounds work, so it may well be all modern VST-based DAW work, aka fakebit. I mean, I love the results, but no idea if there's actually any kind of classic hardware or techniques behind them other than reusing some characteristic chip sounds.

Ha!

Toboter XP IDKFA! Idkfa!!

Spookspear IDDT?

this needs to happen!

aw, you beat me to it.

Nah, Shippy Mcshipface. Also, what happens if more than one person pledges 500 dollars?

It's a limited-edition thing. Only the first person to, ahem, push the boat out that far gets the prize. After that, you can bid as much as you like but you won't be able to claim that tier. Pretty standard KS practice for high-ticket backer levels.

Mew Elpis...

Elliot Clark Yes, two of the tracks from Planet X2, MT-32 versions. :)

Thank you for confirming my suspicions! The MT-32 really has a lovely unique sound, doesn't it.Speaking of which, do you know where I can find you MT-32 rendition of the Planet X2 theme that I heard in the background of one of David's videos? I think it's awesome!

Elliot Clark it’s available as for a purchase and digital download on my site www.eox.no (select soundtrack in the drop down menu on the Lite version of PX2)

Thanks for letting me know! I'll consider it. I'm not rich though, so we'll see.

How did you comment 4 days ago?

Matthias B. Same resolution as my smartwatch funny

Well, sort of. It requires changing the memory layout of the game, though, since I need a whole 64K memory region to store the tiles. But also, I plan to do transparency and other visual improvements that are not present in the CGA version.

The 8-Bit Guy got it. Are you doing asm for the graphics part? Which architecture will you support? 386? 286? I can imagine 286 is a bit more work handling the segment registers. I loved coding games on Dos back then. Nice to see you do as well. Coding the sound hardware was always a nightmare, thought. Especially all these soundblaster quirks like with soundblaster pro I had back then. No wonder you want to outsource it. As far as i remember correctly there was a tracker that also supported opl. Probably scream tracker or fast tracker 2.. but not sure about this. You could safe on dev cost of the tools. Did you try to find a sound guy in the demo scene already? Like on Pouet.net?

The 8-Bit Guy David, please consider VGA ModeX. It is supported by any VGA adapter and allows hardware scrolling. Also it can be 320x200 _or_ 320x240 in case you need some extra screen space for info/status layout.

According to the previous PX3 video, everything is in assembly.

This would add a very complex layer, especially for older hardware. I don't think it is feasible for a single developer. Also the testing becomes much more complicated. Forget about it.

Omeganinjaboy Lol this is assuming dos can handle that much

I think DOS as an operating system could handle it because it could handle Quake online multiplayer.

If he can't program mouse support, that's way out of his skill level. Remember that Quake's network code was made by John Carmack.

Filamax Well, Alexander and I hope so. The music will be composed with those in mind and scaled down. So the sound track will at least be with the MT-32 sound. Just like the intro mock up I made earlier: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d92KprGgy7LQdp8.html (Now, remember that this might be changed a lot, but I hope we can end up with something like this one.)

Would absolutely love an MT-32 version, the pinnacle of standalone PC music for me.

Put it this way, I’m willing to sink some decent cash into this, as I missed out on Planet X2. Also Anders my KZfaq account used to have the name of Celcius1au, changed it as I’m about to start my own KZfaq channel based around the topic of 3D printing etc.

Well My Pledge is in, I AM NOT MISSING OUT THIS TIME!

I hope it can support General MIDI as well, or at the very least not sound completely terrible on an SC-55 in MT-32 mode :)

are you joking? lmao pls dont tell me your being serious

@@SlowerIsFaster139 of course they're joking lol

Byte Sized 10000K? What?

I'm not exactly sure a game this simple would be of much use in AI research, although I'm not exactly knowledgable in the subject. Are they using any other games for that purpose?

Be N S O N mostly emulated games ; but also simulations running natively , contrary to what you think , this game most likely hits the complexity sweet spot

Simple enough that strategy game ais could make a break though with this ( in contrast with bots for other genres ; even 3d games , they aren't very capable yet ) but complex enough that it could be continued to be used after that

When you put it that way, this might actually be an interesting choice for AI research. I was sort of thinking in terms of gameplay optimisation for either point record breaking or speed runs. I know that even without AI, certain games like Donkey Kong have just about hit their absolute limits in terms of optimised play through. Who knows, maybe that guy who was caught making up all his scores was actually an AI. Maybe that's where they're hiding the AIs like 8 bit guy mentioned in deleted video :^)

Be N S O N "maybe it's just an ai " most definitely not , ais achieve superhuman performance in new , more complex and structured taks every other day , but they struggle at playing games with complex games when you need to memorize the level and it's specific mechanics

_Uranus Foraminis_ ... basically "arsehole" in Latin. I'll see myself out now ....😐