If Clarkson's Farm has achieved anything is highlighting the plight of uk farmers and how shitty local councils can be!

Truly shows how criminal everything has become. They want it to be impossible for smaller companys/start up's to actually make it happen.

Please document this, even if it is on a separate channel, it’ll be really interesting and a good follow! Good luck with everything guys

Ryan thanks so much for making this video…..from someone now almost 4 years from buying an almost derelict building (tree growing out the roof) and converting it to a family house….18 months getting planning (even though it’s a conversion and furthermore retains the existing building (plus extension to the rear in a very shrunken and sympathetic manner) 9 months building and now fighting for a mortgage I reckon the first £30k before sticking a spade in the ground….then the first builder scalped us buy charging ahead of progress before I finally got rid (once I could find someone else take on his misdoings) and then got screwed by roofers….oh god I’m going to write a book it just goes on and on and on. Worst bit is the final hurdle that happened in the last couple of weeks, the mortgage assessor came out to complete the final valuation (we had a mortgage agreed in principle with NatWest….transpires to be owned by Santander) smiled applauded the build left and then wrote and email to state ‘due to the proximity of the property to a hotel we can no longer lend on the property atall) It’s next to ‘nidd hall’ and used to be the power supply to the stately home before it became a hotel…..it hasn’t leapfrogged there since we started the build !!!!!….and between them and the Bridging loan company and the council they just have forced us to pay for circa 10 surveys that have examined the far end of fart regards the building credentials and location.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Guess what we couldn’t pay off our bringing loan on time as we now need to find another company to mortgage the property (not a 5 minute task that takes most companies 5 weeks to complete), in that time between re-set up fee and ultimately an extension for the bridging loan we have do pay them an extra…….£9600!!!!….and that’s if the new mortgage pulls down in 4 weeks…go over that and they’ll have a few thousand more and so and so on. Never build a house is my advise, save your life and buy someone else’s hard work Sorry for situation but furthermore Ryan, massive thanks for highlighting the abuse local authorities adorn on the normal man just trying to take that extra stride in life. I think they view (as do a lot of tradesman I might add) that anyone in such a position to build a house or any other building for that matter clearly is rich and has a bottomless pit of cash at their disposal….. The big boys must be brown enveloping or simply have a great team around them to fight the authorities back (as we see all too often the big corporations get breaks in places everyone else deems impossible, natural habit destruction or traffic and highway impacts to shop or factory local ok etc. Sadly just makes me think there must be brown envelopes involved somewhere I said I was going to write a book on it, I didn’t plan to put it all in a KZfaq comment but like you Ryan I’ve became that guy in the background who’s getting angrier and grumpier and more stressed by the day……if I had a pound for everyone that said ‘it’ll be worth it when it’s done” ….i could pay for the next 4 weeks interest on the bridging loan!!! Good luck my friend, I share your pain and synthase massively Will

Liked the rant at the end, nice to see more people waking up to what's really going off in the world 👏

I have been saying for nearly 20 years that red tape and planning was the biggest issue for housing and economic development in the UK. Huge coporations can afford to spend a fortune on lawyers, planning consultants, surveyors and land agents. They can also afford to buy and sit on land for years while the wheels churn slowly. There was a time in the 70s when councils in rural areas would PAY businesses to move and build there to help with employment and raise their business rates income. During similar times a man could buy a little bit of land and build his own home on it. We are very, very far away from those times now and we far worse off for it.

When it comes to local councils and planning permission, it’s all about WHO u know and brown envelope’s under the table..

I used to work in a government in europe and they 100% know what theyre doing. Someone high up just dislikes what youre doing or you personally and thats why its so hard. They could fix all of this tomorrow if they wanted to or someone would tell them to. Without forcing them I dont think theres many options.

I work in the heavy plant industry. The amount of 'brown envelopes' passed between the government and privately owned companies, is outrageous. HS2 was a massive transfer of wealth imo. The idea that such a small project could cost £60+ Billion is absolutely worth scrutinising!

the UK is a catastrophe for progress .. I'm retiring now it was easy not now it is complex for zero benefits to property owners It has become a gravy train for jobs .. Yes the UK is £UCKED Mental ... totally Mental

Definitely document the entire development!

I'm just back from Slovenia. Could not believe the high quality and finish of everything over there. Building/planning costs are ABSURDLY inhibitive in the UK. Half million £ houses with wafer thin doors and floors made of waste and scrap wood over here. Sucks.

Wow. It beggars belief the amounts of money involved as well as risk to yourself. Good luck with everything 👍

Ideal stuff for a V2 channel, it would be great to see the process and how you manage the hurdles. If you have to plan roadways etc - add roundabouts and fill them with trees! Stick a tree in everywhere you can. Then you could say "I've planted 20-30 native trees - where there were none!"

This sickness is everywhere now! Here in Norway as well and if you want to do the smallest thing yourself in your own house you need a permit for this and that. Even if you wanted to change an electric outlet you need a sertified company to do that, but any one could change the brakes on their own car or even a bus/lorry without any permit... I wonder witch one has the highest potential for causing serious damage especially when it comes to a bus or lorry...

I work in the technical side of the house building industry, but on the outskirts mostly the when it’s gone wrong area - it baffles me how anything gets built, but it is a money game and half of it is absolute bobbins. Good luck, you’re going to need it - it’ll be worth it one day.

IIRC the cost of planning alone for a tunnel under the Thames was 1/4 of a billion...

Onwards and Upwards all good stuff hats off Ryan Scott

Everybody wants a cut of your hard earned money.. the council should sell the land with all the surveys and permissions included!… obviously that’ll never be the case.. no wonder the country is on its knees… Red tape…. After red tape… The council needs people like you and Scott to improve the local area and provide prosperity to people around you.. it’s the old boy network.. funding goes to big corporations… money is syphoned off and disappeared… grants get given at a price!! You guys deserve all the help you can get..

Thanks a ton for sharing. No wonder land with planning sells for 10x than land without I have a small callout equipment repair buisness and quietly run the circus from shipping containers in a field, inc office. I dont ever plan to involve council planners in my land projects. Luckliy we are friendly with my neighbours (the AM and PM van rush doesnt bother them) so low risk of complaints etc I dont have someones yearly wage sat about for compliance, and if i did id spend it on preps!

Good job mate, far better investment than stocks at the moment, make the units modular so customers can have multiple units and open up the walls easily. I know one thing about councils and local governments, they get off if you incorporate some ecological stuff, like vegetation roofs, a pond for newts 😂, flower beds for butterflies. Trust me it works, I also had a discussion with them but when I showed them my plans the permits were quickly done!

I've been through this, extremely frustrating, like walking through mud and partying for the pleasure. More and more regulations every year and the people who implement them have no incentive to be promp or efficient, they still get their pay check at the end of the week.

Scott, ryan, if you need or want project managers and/or quantity surveyors involved, get in touch. We've spent the last couple of years doing commercial units round Lancashire & Manchester.

Best of luck Ryan, Scott and Darkside team. Those figures seem through the roof to get stuff done. But you know what?, You have already made the choice. It is going to happen. I for one am looking forward to the development. Onwards!

Really interesting video, this whole country is definitely a shambles regarding businesses buying land, to provide jobs etc for the area. Well done for pursuing it this far, and would deffo watch more of this kind of content.

Wow. Seems councils are the same the world over. Every bastard clipping the ticket. Would enjoy seeing the progress.

Good luck, those costs seem insanity; honest folk like you lot will always have to walk uphill. God speed 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

It will be interesting to see this moving forward 👍 good luck 🤞

Highly recommend Seven Architecture based in Harrogate. Nice, decent people, call a spade a spade

Timelapse videos of buildings going up can be interesting viewing. I’ll asked about and see if any of my contacts are able to help you out.

I’ve just been through a similar situation. I spent 2022 and 2023 getting change of use on an agricultural site I own to commercial. I got it in the end but it was a long process and cost way more than I ever thought. It was my first time doing anything like that. I had to do most of the surveys you’re needing. I found a few companies not local who were like half the price of local companies my planning consultant recommended. I’ve got my Amarok booked in with you next week so if you want me to pass on any contacts I used I’d be happy to

Just a bit more than the planning application for the garage in my garden then!

Hats off to you for taking on such a huge development. The figures quoted sound just incredible to me, i hope you can reduce them drastically. The only thing i can say is that Commercial property is one of the best investments you can make, & to treat it as a pension is the right way to look at it. Good luck with it all, yes i would be interested to see future videos on the progress.

This is just the way is becoming heartbreaking stuff. I wish ye the absolute best. I have been watching ye lads for so long. Ye have been and continue to be very open we really appreciate it 👍🏻

I would love to see more on this. On this channel or another, I don't mind. But very interesting and well explained

Darkside Property Developments, sounds good to me. Keep the videos of it all coming haha!

Should build an small oil refinery, Darkside special blend of diesel

You need to wine and dine the local councillor, like these big companies do!

Ryan and Scott - you are super stars! Well done for sticking with it and proving that with your hard work you’ll make the system work for you. I can’t wait to see videos of this project. Ps buy a couple of bitcoin as well. All the best.

Twice I've deal't with the council involving land and property. NEVER AGAIN!!

Sounds like a good investment opportunity,sadly the UK is dangerously close to the point of no return,it’s not a country I wanna retire in now unless I can help it,cheers guys exciting times ahead👍💪😉

What a nightmare didn’t realise all this was involved. I’ve built a few units in wetherby just about to start the next phase(brick/blockwork) be interesting to see the the results. But if you end up needing a substation by approved contractor (freedom group) or a price for the brick/block work on the units if needed I’ll keep an eye out on the socials 👍

Look into the degrowth economy, our economy is being reduced intentionally, and small to medium sized businesses are the target! Good luck mate

Best advice I would always give, get the local council planner out immediately. Then from there use the councils contacts, the councils recommended architects and planners. Then everything runs smooth because there all in the loop of communication,

Document it, please! As bricky I find this interesting

Build a off road track with free days for 2 strokes with fmf exhausts they might soon let you build or even better let a few dozen driveway specialists set up camp thatll get the planning through a but quicker 👍

Really good insight into "trying" something in the UK. Love vehicles mainly but thanks and keep us all informed and entertained 👍

Really interesting to hear about your plans and it being all very real rather than the toxic positivity BS that with have to swallow these days from councils and government. Thanks for sharing.

It’s total madness, no wonder nothing happens because they make it so hard. Really hope you get sorted and these bloody idiots get held to account at the councils.

Well Ryan we commend you for sharing 👍🏻

Excellent video Ryan, how did we ever get to this? I admire you for taking it on! I'd be going for the stocks & share purchase option I think!! Good luck & keep us up to date!

My dad used to own/run Pakistani restaurants, he always used to say councils are the English Mafia...

WEF!!!

Benedict fowler (youtuber) wanted to build a fishing pond (fowler fisheries) the planning process & surverys were a joke just for a pond.

Cracking video and 10/10 rant!! When buying land like this prior to planning being in place, what, if any guarantees are you getting that planning will be approved? Or is it a massive risk?

Definitely interested to see this journey

Keep it coming please.

It’s not what you know, it’s who (and what they want). Honest folk like yourself?

A mate up here in galloway sold up his farm along with 1500 acres of land as he had been attempting for the previous 5 years to develop 300 acres of poor land into much needed small industrial units for local businesses but eventually he gave up, total waste of £130,00 that he spent on trying to get it through. He decided fu*k-it and sold up everything to move to Portugal. Good luck with your venture but unless you've got bribes for local councillors/politicians then I don't fancy your chances competing with the corrupt system.

Good luck and always love to see more videos

Very interesting, thanks for sharing!

Good luck lads!

100% the councils won't pay a third of what its costing you to build whatever they want. By us they keep throwing up multistory car parks for the town centre that nobody uses because theres no shops because the rent and rates are too much for a business to make a quid. Then theres all the tax and shit we have to pay for less and less services. Place is like a 3rd world country but then again when the chap running the show is from a 3rd world country himself he probably thinks that its not too bad. Work all your life to try and get on but get taxed at every opportunity then if you've done well for yourself and have plenty to leave for your kids they then get taxed again for inheritting all the money you've already been taxed on its comical. Hard to make good money in this day and age without loopholes and tax dodges that only seem to be available for MPs.

I'm a civil engineer (drainage and roads) and honestly planners are the bain of my life!! Its awful!! Makes me want to switch careers.

Fair play lads, well done and good luck with the future

All the best guys ❤ keep it coming

Love this content as well as the car related content, you guys are smashing it well done, and you clearly have good business sense and clear vision, I hope it all goes well and look forward to seeing more updates, was shocked to see some of the fee’s was a good insight but worth the investment, good luck 👍

Well done for making this video

Sounds about right to be fair.....😂.I remember the hoops we went through to renovate some barns..... headbanging stuff

of you are encountering unusual resistance from environmentally motivated depts had you considered showing the expansion under a different company name and suitable sic?

Definitely want to see more of this it's interesting and entertaining. Good presenter helps obvs 🎉

All good 👍🏻

More videos on the progress!

Crazy money involved, all that money will have to be passed on to the businesses renting them.

Yes

Im glad you have made this video, it just shows how much government rips off working people in favour of big cooperations. It just shows how difficult it is to grow a business, the amount of things you need to pay just to get to start of building the units is huge. And no it’s not conspiracy theories, it is real. Uk is a country that milks dry all its workforce carelessly, and big corporations that have fingers stuck in government can do what they like. After all , London office workers have to have their wages paid somehow( for imaginary made up jobs that) that supposedly help future generations, but they just kill all middle class in favour of elite.

Definitely more videos of the build process. Councils are out for money for old rope . But that’s the way of the world. Love the content keep up your hard work

That final rant went off 😂

‘Its knees’. Yep, it’s me again 😂. Wish you best of luck getting this finally sorted so you can progress.

Noise assessment £1640 Air quality assessment £1780+£1500 I’m in the wrong business. Don’t get me started on local councils they are pure e v i l s c u m who need to be reminded that they work for and on behalf of us not against us as they all currently do. Look at the state of the roads now compared to even 5 years ago, yet LTNs go up, speed bumps go up, millions wasted on signage and artist bolllllllocks and that’s just scratching the surface. In my opinion we need to r e v o l t tear down councils, parliament, the lot and start again because the only people it works for are the people within.

Where there’s muck there’s brass

Absolutely LOVED the rants at the end there Ryan, I totally agree with all those comments, makes no sense at all!😂 But that being said, congrats and all the best, hope it all works out well for you guys!💪

Interested in a unit depending on costings when they’re done

You need to grease the right pockets. 100% correct about any sort of pension. Probably be into 70-80s another 25-30 years down the line. I'd also be concerned about labour getting in and ulezing the whole country which is damaging towards diesel's. Remember we live in a democracy 😂. Love the "bag of jabs" or no pension for you. You know that's coming!

If you need to get around planning laws, buy a caravan and just do it anyway.

Pay and play 4x4 course 😂 once dig out starts

Definitely content for a second Channel as this would be interesting to follow. I vote for the channel to be called DBD (Darkside Building Developments) Or Ryte then units

You should deffo do a time lapse of the build

Good lad 👊🏼

Great informative video good to see the otherside of Darkside and would be good to see progress....

Only big companies with big brown paper bags can win these days

subscriber investment/shareholders? scatter ponds around the outside, fed by roof and surface runoff, planting extra trees and habitat creation , and they still won't be happy

Enjoyed the rant , and the comment about agenda 2030, if you know you know, wish you luck with prosperity on your future venture

It's all do as I say not as I do, I'm growing soo much hatred towards this country

have a word with wordsworth excavations we do stuff like this all the time we did the big job at hoyland for hermes and they might have some companys to put you i contact with that can do everything you need

I really hope this speeds up and becomes more of a reality for yourselves because it’s no surprise that people/buisnesses don’t bother developing new industrial sites if that’s half the bother you get when trying to better this country. This country needs more people like you to boost our local economies and to push the locals and like minded people to kick off their own businesses and help recreate the industrial hub that once was the UK! Creating jobs, creating good quality facilities, don’t give up with them I’m sure you won’t but once this is all done and dusted and they’re still wanting money off you out of thin air just laugh and think of the good you’ve done for the local economy! I’ve been looking for a small sized industrial property for years in my local area now and it’s just not possible, there are simply none available.. get the moss dug up and stuck ont roof of the units, be reyt!

This sort of thing is a symptom of the problems with councils. They have no real oversight, no one pulling them up on the appalling value for money they provide and no desire to do anything but make sure they have enough money for the Christmas do and next years pay rises. Every single council worker I’ve had to deal with has been too secure in their own position to be anything other than aggressively lazy.

Ultra load bearing roof, put solar panels & plants on it.

im sure you already know but cant prove is, the reason why the likes of marshalls get funding is because a big huge brown envelope goes to the top councillor and/or mp for the area to approve planning. it goes on all the time but its the proving it

Not gunna lie, gutted it's not a pay and play site like Rothwell was 😂 (shame it's closed now) but this is genuinely epic. All the best lads