Playfield Swap With Cut Wires Everywhere On A 1980 Williams Firepower Pinball Machine!

Playfield Swap With Cut Wires Everywhere On A 1980 Williams Firepower Pinball Machine! - Confusing!

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@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

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@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

Some background on this Firepower. I pieced what I could back together from 2 or 3 parts machines that were all severly stripped by the operator. None of the machines were even close to working. One was even flame charred/melted if you could believe it. As to the cut wiring, definitely not me, suspect the operator wrote off the machines I picked thru in a dark & wet warehouse and never planned to repair them ever. You can only save so many of these games! Please keep in mind most of the old operators have no love for these games at all, it was all about money for a lot of them. I had to crawl/climb through his warehouse to retrieve what I could while paying for what I got. The playfield and most of the plastics are from Classic Playfield Reproductions (CPR). Thankfully we have master troubleshooters, Ron and Joe to help!! Thx again guys, it plays great!

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

Thank you James, it was tough to get going but I'm glad we got it back up and doing it's thing! See you on the next one buddy! P.S. I still have your soundboard, I should have it done soon :)

@keithwert1827 Жыл бұрын

I think it would be a good idea to make a t-shirt with a pinball machine on it. you know everybody would like it. Come on people!!! It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Keith

@beavis6363 Жыл бұрын

Wow, nice to see you catch a break on those displays. Gotta' love the occasional easy fix. All four, that was sweet dude.

@Urko2005 Жыл бұрын

I love those older tables.

@KevBoneT Жыл бұрын

One of the toughest parts of this job must be keeping track of your hours. Few techs would take this on.... Great video as usual, Ronnie.

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

I can't count or keep track of my hours on this one, what am I going to charge the guy per hour? It's like 30 hours of work.

@KevBoneT Жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade One...Million...Dollars. The true bottom line is: you have to love doing the work. Right Joe?

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

@@KevBoneT Making the videos is fun so that part helps too

@KentDiego Жыл бұрын

Great work Ron. I think most techs would turn this job down. Can't wait to see it fully working.

@Thalamus4 Жыл бұрын

Impressive work Ron !

@flippedout Жыл бұрын

Really loving this particular series - I'm replacing the playfield in my Firepower at the moment! Thanks!

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

Good luck! Hope you rig some sort of rotisserie, it helps and remember plenty of pictures

@flippedout Жыл бұрын

@@jameswacker3827 yes - this is my second playfield replacement. This one is easy compared to my last one! I can’t agree more - the pictures saved me on the first one!

@jeanmorin4580 Жыл бұрын

Love watching your videos, thanks! Always interesting!

@ziero1986 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait until we get to hear the sound card some alive. So neat seeing the lamps come to life too. Hopefully the next one?

@Pinball-Whizz Жыл бұрын

Crazy. Done playfield swaps.. carefully, slowly and no cuts.. if there were 2 or 3 playfields behind this project.. supplying another would have saved one heck of a lot of head scratching and schematic poring. And screws, brackets, lamp holders, terminal blocks to use as replacements etc etc... Doh!!! Mind you - learning curve.. didn't know about fusing the bridge rectifier on my pinbot - until - 4 days after buying it - all the wires burned up - virtually to the transformer.. baptism of fire as they say. Thanks anyhow Ron for the video.. Joe - this one was real broke.. c'mon Joe.. 😁 Greets from the UK..

@Pinball-Whizz Жыл бұрын

At least the crack head didn't break your ghost sign window!!

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

Actually was only able to choose from 3 or so playfields. One was melted and charred, the other was less intact, which was not saying much for the one I did chose.

@BillFroog Жыл бұрын

Ouch.. I guess charred is kind of a choice! Only playfield I've had a duplicate of was a Minizag where every screw was so rusted into the wood, such that every post or switch or lamp snapped when removed. Sure glad I managed to find another.. especially as the 2nd still had all the playfield paint! (Well most anyway). Fair play, if that is the result of the best bits of three, you did well - and it's going to be a beautiful machine at the end. Apologies for jumping to conclusions - I've obviously been luckier than I thought! It's a crazy, fabulous hobby keeping these machines alive - one I'm dedicating my retirement to! One day I'll be lucky enough to get a Firepower/Centaur/EBD, for now it's mainly EMs.. which is why I especially love Ron's take on celebrating them all! Have fun!

@markjackson1444 Жыл бұрын

You’re working your way through all this real good. …not sure why so many wires were disconnected from their switch. …. This wasn’t entirely necessary just to swap the playfield. … your buddy is lucky he has you to sort this out. … What’s $30 X 30 hours?? I reckon that’s about what this job should cost. …. but he’s a friend so ….??

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

We still have to fix it after we get the playfield swapped :)

@materialsguy2002 Жыл бұрын

Nice work, Ron. 👍🏻

@DJlegionuk Жыл бұрын

Really enjoying this series, you made some excellent progress in this one.

@EsotericArctos Жыл бұрын

The wiring looks like a bit of a nightmare, but I can see how it can be broken down and tackled to make it easier. The worst thing to me (blame my OCD) is having all those cut wires in a way that makes the original wires too short and requiring joins. That sort of thing plays with my head and I don't understand why they couldn't be cut closer to the actual switch or bulb so there was enough wire left to solder without a join. Just me. You did an amazing job working this out and getting it as good as you have done. Have to admit, that playfield looks absolutely amazing.

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

I wondered too, why, why why.. the best answer I came up with was the operator had no intention of fixing and just wrote off machine and pulled the part quick and dirty, just like in a junkyard.

@kenrichmond3946 Жыл бұрын

I think they do this on purpose so if the machine is sold it can't be easily placed into service by a competitor. Common to remove coin mechs, too.

@Paul-yk9uq Жыл бұрын

Sorry I broke into your store. I just couldn't wait to see how the Firepower was coming along.

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

It wasn't you I know the crackhead that did it :)

@timitbiscuit3620 Жыл бұрын

What a god awful rats nest. I would say the bill on this would be up there a bit. If not you are truly a great individual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because I don't know a lot of folks that could possibly even or do what you have done with this repair!!!!!

@jasonudall8614 Жыл бұрын

So the owner had parts from three play field sets. And still it wasn't complete? Ron nice work. Patience of a saint

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

Nope, they were all parts machines

@frankgagliano9677 Жыл бұрын

Great Video Ronnie, Sorry for your place being was broken in, glad they caught the guy. Great series on wiring the playfield back up. Did you have to add any wire and if you did what gauge wire was it? Glad you had all those extra pieces in the back. I save all of old stuff too, just in case. See you on the next video. Thanks Ronnie

@ray73864 Жыл бұрын

The way I see it, if the board can be saved, and not at a cost greater than a new board, then you should save the existing board. But lets say a new board costs $200, and the cost to fix the existing one is $400, then you may as well just get the new board. Though even then I dunno. To me, there's something about the old boards that just fits better, there is no guarantee the new board is going to have all the quirks that the old board had, which means a lot of the character of the game suddenly vanishes.

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree for the most part, but the board was so worn, I had to because I felt with so much artwork gone it unfortunately affected the feel and play of the machine.

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

If it's got a ton of art gone (and Firepower often does) you don't really have much choice unfortunately....

@jasonsteverson4609 Жыл бұрын

Hey Ron!!

@madbstard1 Жыл бұрын

There's no such thing as Silicon Heaven! But where do all the calculators go....

@valerienollens2399 Жыл бұрын

Good DAVID french

@fred_derf Жыл бұрын

Which was worse, repairing this beauty, or fixing the one that had all the wires to the head cut?

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

Definitely this one :) Thanks for watching Fred!

@carlstanland5333 Жыл бұрын

I’m new to this channel, so forgive my ignorance… How do you know so much about old arcade games and pinball?!? I watch for the nostalgia, but I’m amazed by what you remember. Did you work for a manufacturer in the past? Loving the content!

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

Hi Carl; Welcome to the channel! When I was a teenager my brother Joey and I bought an arcade game from the local arcade and our dad brought it home in his van. We broke the thing, then fixed it and messed around with it for awhile, turning it into another game, etc. and kind of learned how they work a little bit. Then I got a job in my 20's working for an operator, and you have to learn how to work on them on location so they'll keep making money! (I earned a commission) ... We started buying games on the side and working on them a little bit, and eventually just learned more and more, when you work on them you just learn things as you go and kind of get an understanding of how they work. When I was first learning, I learned a lot of what I know from www.PinRepair.com Clay's site, he's one of the best in the world at working on them! We'll see you on the next video!

@carlstanland5333 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply! I’m definitely going to stick around and see how these machines turn out!

@waynegram8907 Жыл бұрын

JOE CLASSIC, what IC chip is "generating the BCD Segment data" BEFORE the 7 segment display data? the BCD data is generated before the BCD decoder chips

@stphinkle Жыл бұрын

If those glass displays are not available, there are some LED replacement displays for Williams System 6 available from Rottendog Amusements, Marco Specialties, PinLED, and other manufacturers.

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

Be careful because there are different voltages and I don't think you can mix and match. I did go on ebay and find a used cheap replacement.

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

Yeah unfortunately on the LED's you have to swap ALL of them on the Williams games... on the Bally games you can swap just 1 though.... but then they don't look the same.

@lileveretteyoakumiii Жыл бұрын

Hello Yodelayheehoo

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

Hello Lil Everette!

@DavidSmith-ef1ws Жыл бұрын

Hello, at 10:37 you mention a little board with resistors on it that attaches to the flash lamps. I am trying to identify that board so I can buy a replacement for my FirePower. Mines burnt. Any help would be huge. Thanks.

@randycarter2001 Жыл бұрын

That play field swap was done so poorly. You don't have to cut the wires. From the looks of it the only wires that were a problem were the general illumination since they are attached with staples.

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

I think he cut the wires so that he could put the best of two different playfields on there, so cut this switch off and put this switch on instead because it's a little nicer.

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

Nope, I definitely didn't cut. The wiring harness on playfield was already stripped. Fortunately, Ron is awesome!

@gorillaau Жыл бұрын

@@jameswacker3827 Ron is also awesome at explaining why he does what he does and doing. Some may cringe at some of the explanations but for less technical folk, it get them close enough without technical lectures.

@jameswacker3827 Жыл бұрын

@@gorillaau absolutely agree, Ron and Joe are great people!

@weekendwarriorweldingdiypr4604 Жыл бұрын

@@gorillaau even though I am fairly technical, I prefer the way Joe describes things. Makes it interesting to listed to while I work on old audio gear.

@michealpersicko9531 Жыл бұрын

I know this isn't related to the video but could someone tell me what the pinball machine next to this Firepower with all the gladiators painted on it is? I really hope that it isn't just called gladiators and im just stupid

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

That one is Bally's "Medusa" a fairly rare game we're going to do a whole series on it soon

@OhRonaldo Жыл бұрын

Okay, so $1,000 for the playfield... how many hours would that take you, an experienced Pin Repair King, to do the swap over from a working machine (not this FrankenPower 😀 )? Just curious and just a ballpark guess would be awesome

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

maybe 30 hours, but I would never agree to do it

@OhRonaldo Жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade Purist! 😀 Thanks. Did you do this for James as a favor? Didja wind up kicking yourself? You sound a bit... resigned as you're working through it but it must feel great when you're done. A great sense of accomplishment, and the pain stops. Thanks again Ron. I so love your videos.

@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын

@@OhRonaldo No we didn't do it as a favor, he paid well for it. We've done several of his machines and this one he had already swapped the playfield into and done a lot of the work, we just helped him finish it. Thanks for watching as always Ron!

@OhRonaldo Жыл бұрын

@@LyonsArcade I didn't think you did it for free! Just wondering if you were accommodating a good customer. ❤️ PS darn crackheads grrrr