PlayStation 2 - Comparing MX4SIO, UDPBD, HDD, SMB, USB on PS2 Fat and Slim

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11 ай бұрын

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@HollowRick 5 ай бұрын

I'm glad this comparison exists as I'm so tired of youtubers recommending the USB method 🤦🏻

@FR4M3Sharma 4 ай бұрын

Who the fuck is recommending you USB nowadays?

@tnaplastic2182 4 ай бұрын

@@FR4M3Sharma All the Noobs which think that PS2-Home is a source…

@jesustoninixxx328 3 ай бұрын

same, this days everybody thinks the USB way is the definitive experience but is so bad

@SarsamSamo1 3 ай бұрын

@@jesustoninixxx328yeah i have USB on my modded ps2 does HDD help improving fps and loading?

@SarsamSamo1 3 ай бұрын

@@jesustoninixxx328i agree with you when i play it on my ps2 i tested Kenka banchou 2 full throttle the loading is super slow as hell frame rate stuffers

@br33ch 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Comparing with the DVD would've been interesting too.

@transformersloverjon 4 ай бұрын

I can't believe this video doesn't contain a control group.

@PrimeRetroGamer 17 күн бұрын

@@transformersloverjon Control group sadly is not that controlled anymore. Sadly, all my drives have varying read speeds.

@davemoore7808 3 күн бұрын

This is an excellent video. Just what I was looking for. Kudos! Love me some graphs.

@tnaplastic2182 10 ай бұрын

Very good video and thank you for taking the time!

@krissteward 9 ай бұрын

Great video! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you

@lauraiss1027 11 ай бұрын

Excellent comparison and explanation, thank you!

@choco_easty 6 ай бұрын

Thanks you for making this very comprehensive video! I appreciate the time and effort you put in to it! Keep making more.

@Anthestudios 6 ай бұрын

Great video. I had never heard of UDPBD so another things learnt today. Thanks so much!

@denzelkrocker1673 9 ай бұрын

Excellent video, it gave me a good overview of ehat to expect from all the options we have and what to expect.

@bialasiczek 24 күн бұрын

Best comparison I've seen so far. Really helped me decide. Thanks mate.

@elsanto5158 5 ай бұрын

Really appreciate this video. Great work!

@matherzinsstuff3410 9 ай бұрын

Great video, i've wanted to know that for a while but could not find a comparision as good as yours. Thanks very much.

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting! I really do appreciate it!

@ravajbains8672 8 күн бұрын

Great video, appreciate the time and effort. You've bagged a sub

@retro_escape2969 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for putting the effort into this video, it was very helpful and informative. I’m about to do some testing myself comparing hard drive options of HDD/5400, HDD/7200, and SSD 🙂

@Jarom951 9 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for these tests!

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

You're very welcome! Thanks for leaving a comment.

@retrolover451 10 ай бұрын

Very good video! Thanks it is very helpful!

@yashy2x 6 ай бұрын

Amazing video ❤

@Electro096 10 ай бұрын

Unique video, great to watch 👍

@PrimeRetroGamer 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@retrorobbgaming 8 ай бұрын

I’ve tried using MX4SIO and had some issues both with slim and fat, so I resorted back to using my discs but now I may look into use the HDD method. Thanks for the video!

@khroxas 8 ай бұрын

Same, I just got MX4SIO but performance is really bad and there is a lot of slow downs with certain games. It's a neat little device but it is not there yet.

@tnaplastic2182 7 ай бұрын

You both should take a look at Project Phoenix Media 's "MX4SIO Troubleshooting" video! Cleaning or bending the pins a bit helped significantly in his case!

@Vincentvalentinezxa 4 ай бұрын

i had a decent experience with it, klonoa lunateas veil crashes a lot and dmc1 doenst even work after the data warning

@SirRob24 7 ай бұрын

This is such a great video. I was curious about the comparison between the different methods. I have a Slim console and got an MX4SI0 card but was kind of annoyed by the lag. Was wanting to know if SMB would be better and now I know and now I know how much better. Thank you for the video!

@PrimeRetroGamer 7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! :) Happy holidays!

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

Are you already using the newest official OPL Beta builds? The performance was A BIT improved, compared to even the build used here! ;)

@SirRob24 6 ай бұрын

⁠@@PrimeRetroGamer I ended up ordering a GL.iNet Mango. Finally came in. Took me like 4 hours tonight to finally get it working with my PS2 Slim. I've never used openwrt before so getting my NTFS HDD to mount and be RW took 3.5 of those 4 hours. Tested everything out and it works flawlessly. The KH opening played without any stuttery or errors. Games are loading well. Everything I've tested works as expected. Thanks again for making this video. I never would have thought to try a travel router with my HDD setup as a Samba drive if I hadn't stumbled upon your video.

@PrimeRetroGamer 6 ай бұрын

Excellent news! Thanks for updating me and the kind words! Yeah, I guess it's not the most common method, but it's great. By the way, some work is being done on making UDPBD work with that same router. Hopefully, it gets to a point one day where I can fully switch to that. @@SirRob24

@SirRob24 6 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGameroh that would be super handy. I did see on the forums it looks like they have an open wrt app for it but I decided it wasn't worth looking into farther since just running as a network drive was working so well. Now I'm onto trying to make a Guitar Hero controller using a pi Pico and circuit python for make a HID device that emulates being a rock band/GH controller. I could buy a used GH controller off eBay for like $100 but what would be the fun in that? Lol

@kastanieldaluan6480 2 ай бұрын

Great explained tnx bro

@TravisLohmannMusic 5 күн бұрын

SMB for me, is life- so happy to have discovered it as a method to play games!!!!

@tnaplastic2182 7 ай бұрын

This comparison is definitely the best one on YT! I share it quite often to people who have not decided which device to use.

@PrimeRetroGamer 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you find it helpful!

@tnaplastic2182 7 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer Hey, I am in the video so that alone is worth it, haha. Nah, I mean it like I wrote it. This video is VERY WELL DONE!

@PrimeRetroGamer 7 ай бұрын

@@tnaplastic2182 I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "you are in the video"? :D I might be missing something. :D Thanks again!

@tnaplastic2182 7 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer For example when you show the thread right in the beginning. I wrote it! :)

@PrimeRetroGamer 7 ай бұрын

Oh snap. I didn't put two things together. I feel like I've been visited by a celebrity now. Well, thank you for your contribution to PS2 community. :D

@rafaeldoraguille9169 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@47KRoman 9 ай бұрын

Very nice. I would like comparison of load times with DVD drive too.

@normannugguire 20 сағат бұрын

Excellent video, I recently wanted to get into modding my ps2s, I have a 70012 and a 77001, I saw that the 70012 has the internals to do a Hard-drive but it requires soldering and a case extension and I wanted the best results but after seeing this I am content with going the UDPBD route.

@PrimeRetroGamer 20 сағат бұрын

UDPDB is great! You can even run it on Raspberry Pi, but setting it up there is a bit tricky. I'm hoping some day UDPBD gets ported to a router like I used in the video, so that it can be used entirely untethered to PC. :)

@Soonjai 10 ай бұрын

A game worth considering for testing FMV Stutter is R: Racing Evolution, all of it´s FMV´s had a slighter stutter and audio issues when I played it on my Fat SMB Setup, and others seem to have the same issue with the game. Never heard of UDPBD before, but might give it a try.

@PrimeRetroGamer 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for leaving a comment! I might do a follow up some time. Me neither until a few weeks ago. It's kinda amazing so far.

@JeffisWinning 7 ай бұрын

I liked how the PS2 got hacked wide open. There's like 12 different ways to play games & backups on it now.

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

Less... Lol

@soulslayer55 9 ай бұрын

Haven't used my opl setup in a few months and wanted to see if it was worth switching over to the memory card solution over my internal HDD and this was a great catch up. Definitely going to stick to the HDD for now

@tnaplastic2182 8 ай бұрын

I'd love to see you testing these very same games on the very same devices as "ZSO(s)" (including the fact that it often requires Mode 1, because it is too fast sometimes). 😊

@dr.pavelheer496 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for these tests, very nice. I'm surprised on how okay SMB worked, I only heard bad things about it before. I wonder whether an SSD would have much better loading times vs your HDD. Also, I know it would be a pain in the ass, but comparison to DVD drive would also be nice

@remusracingro3884 2 ай бұрын

Nice one

@frankbaez7443 2 ай бұрын

This video is a Marsterpiece, thanks.

@toxicityofthecity226 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for these comparisons. I only have ps2 slim and i was wondering what method will i use. Definitely hdd setup is out so my best bet is SMB setup. I have an old router so i hope it works.

@tnaplastic2182 Ай бұрын

20k views! Hey people! Share this video please! It is THE BEST comparison of the available devices!

@ericson4030 10 ай бұрын

i would have suggested you to test Gran Turismo 3 since on SMB the opening FMV lags alot, and Splashdown since it doesn't even boot on Slim models

@rubenrios9497 9 ай бұрын

Please do a follow up, and test the opening FMV of the Sega Astro Boy game as it has give problems in the past

@XavsLo 2 күн бұрын

Great video, thank you! Do you have a tutorial on how to set up the gli net smb? I happen to have the exact same device and want to use it like that

@indrafelipe2932 4 ай бұрын

Some specific versions of OPL were created to improve the performance of the MX4SIO, both in ISO and ZSO. This does not affect compatibility with some memory cards. I performed tests with several standard versions of OPL and also with test versions to improve performance in MX4SIO. However, in general, MX4SIO will not outperform SMB (Server Message Block) networking. At most, it can even be equal, but overcoming it is difficult or impossible. The only advantage of MX4SIO, besides practicality, is that it uses less RAM and console IOP compared to SMB networking. This can provide greater compatibility for some games and also when using VMC (Virtual Memory Card) and PADMEU. The ps2 models from number 7500 or higher have slightly better performance on USB, I don't know if it is due to using overlock, or some other factor in the ps1's CPU, if it can be emulated on these models.

@andrebrait 2 ай бұрын

Do you mean BDM4 or is it something else?

@tnaplastic2182 Ай бұрын

@@andrebraitBDM 4.8.1 is the last one and every important stuff of it got merged.

@paw_wall 7 ай бұрын

in my experience with the mx4sio and slim ps2, setting the mode to mode 2 (synchronous mode) seems to fix the issue with fmv lagging.

@5persondude 4 ай бұрын

Just curious, where do you go to set that setting? Currently in the process of getting ready to try MX4SIO and I’d appreciate knowing where to go for this ahead of time

@paw_wall 3 ай бұрын

@@5persondude you can adjust the per game settings in opl by highlighting the game and pressing triangle I believe. It should take you to the game settings where you can select which modes to turn on.

@ef1265 2 ай бұрын

using the mx4sio method i had some sound skipping on some games, it was in cutscenes / fmv i think, which i don't get at all on HDD, not sure if that is due to low compatibility with some games

@Buguese 7 ай бұрын

MX4SIO seems like my only option right now Hdd on ANY version if OPL i threw at it just stays on a black screen without loading and I didn't touch any settings on it,so hopefully the sd card method works

@ShindlerReal 21 күн бұрын

Never heard of UDPBD. I'll look into it someday. SMB is giving me a headache every time Windows decides to update.

@3450P 11 ай бұрын

UDPDB the best method for slim consoles, SMB the second, because with SMB I get stutters in some games. For example, The Suffering (SLUS_206.36) stutters with SMB and works perfectly fine with UDBPD.

@PrimeRetroGamer 11 ай бұрын

The Suffering is stuttering! I'll have to check it out. I'll stick with SMB for a bit, since I got everything set up already, but most likely I'll be switching to UDPBD too. Someone has made it run on a router and that's what I would prefer, but AFAIK you have to start it manually each time?

@3450P 11 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamerYou can check the video that I recorded from my TV screen (I am not a blogger and did not have any capturing device), where you can clearly notice the stutters. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abugmqenrLK8aGg.html I change PCs where games share, I make SMB share on my router, and I always get stutters in this game with the SMB method. USB is fine, MX4SIO is fine, UDPBD is fine too. Maybe SMB latency causes these stutters. I make a script that starts the server when I turn on my PC.

@PrimeRetroGamer 11 ай бұрын

@@3450P Just checked on my PS2 Fat with SMB, no such stutters happen for me. Might be an issue with your config? I know my previous router made even the FMVs stutter.

@3450P 10 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer Strange... I test on two PCs and one router and always get this stutters with SMB, USB, MX4SIO, and UDPBD, game works fine. I finished the game using UDPBD with no problems. Maybe something else occurs this stutters, I don't know. Anyway, I fully migrated to UDPBD. One problem with this is that I am stuck with one OPL build.

@tnaplastic2182 10 ай бұрын

@@3450PIt's not due to latencies, but due to SMB-Streaming on a MIPS I R3000 is like remote controlling a rocket with a GameBoy... It uses a lot of CPU-Cycles as well as IOP-RAM.

@Helpful_Harry 4 ай бұрын

comparing with discs would have been cool

@duncanmacleod7287 4 күн бұрын

By USB you mean the stick connected right into the ps2 port (if that's even possible now) ?It's been a while since I used my PS2 but I remember using a router with SMB configuration and a usb stick.

@PrimeRetroGamer 3 күн бұрын

Yes! USB stick, USB hard drive or in my case SD card with USB adapter. USB port is limited in speed, so it doesn't matter much which one, since it will be limited either way. USB stick in router with SMB will be much better.

@Brodensson 5 ай бұрын

I would love to have seen the mx4sio test on the 700XX slim consoles, as these are pre-decard consoles like the fat consoles. I assume they would have tbe similar results to the 39003, but obviously can't say for sure. Maybe I'll test it myself!

@tnaplastic2182 4 ай бұрын

Same results like FAT.

@cate_abreu 4 ай бұрын

Gotta test it on my setup with a SMB server, ethernet cable directly connected to the laptop. I have a PS2 slim 90xxx version (PAL).

@tnaplastic2182 4 ай бұрын

It works fine, but if you use a Laptop anyway, you should give UDPBD a shot!

@cate_abreu 4 ай бұрын

@@tnaplastic2182 I'll do :)

@Roby0593 7 ай бұрын

can you show the configuration to directly connect in UDPBD ps2 to PC using ethernet ?

@tnaplastic2182 7 ай бұрын

Just take a look at the official news-thread?!

@user-jn5yk6xw6h 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for video! Had a problem with UDPBD-server. Server is working, I see disc specs, but send no data to OPL. I had static IP, straight connection between PS2 and PC, OPL settings wasn't changed, try FAT32 and exFAT... Any ideas?

@PrimeRetroGamer 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I had trouble using default UDPBD server app, have you tried using this? github.com/awaken1ng/udpbd-vexfat/releases/tag/v0.2.0

@user-jn5yk6xw6h 11 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer Well, your version of server starts once, makes OPL folders and then closed without any other work. Don't know how can i handle this. Tomorrow I will try another OPL build

@PrimeRetroGamer 11 ай бұрын

Do you run CMD as admin? @@user-jn5yk6xw6h

@user-jn5yk6xw6h 11 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer Yes, and I launch server by shortcut with special path to disc, like "\\.\E:". Another version of OPL didn't work

@PrimeRetroGamer 11 ай бұрын

@@user-jn5yk6xw6h Which OPL version did you try?

@mrwoodcat 6 ай бұрын

my fat ps2 is the launch version without hdd capabilities nor network port (it stuck with usb game bcs the optics is broken too) so mx4sio seems like a god gift for it.

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

ALL FAT have capability of using an HDD, even Pre-ExpansionBay-Models.

@GamerGeezer 9 ай бұрын

Opl 1.2.0 with Mx4sio on my 50003 model works just fine and doesn't have half the slowdown shown here. All pal isos used and no fmv skipping.

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

PAL runs at 50 frames per second instead of 60, so that could explain it. I avoid using PAL most of the time.

@GamerGeezer 9 ай бұрын

Even on NTSC games there's rarely an issue. I use a 50hz CRT to play ps2 anyways, but if I switch to component through gbs c I don't care about the 5 less frames. It means no skippage on cutscenes and it's the version I'm used to.

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

I tried out the games that usually give me trouble. Just to clear things up, it's not always just 5 frames you're missing, many games do run at full 60, even the FMVs. I'm not saying you shouldn't play PAL versions, it's just that it's not what I tested or prefer.@@GamerGeezer

@GamerGeezer 9 ай бұрын

No probs I understand. I don't mind PAL is all. We are used to it here in UK.

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

I'm from Latvia, we had the same PAL standard here as well, but when I started collecting consoles, about 4 years ago, I set out to go for NTSC. I don't mind it, but I really prefer NTSC. It might actually be a worse standard from a technical point (don't quote me on this, it's what I've heard), but games are not always that greatly optimized for it. I actually speak about this in my latest upload. Take a stab at it. Maybe you have some valid criticisms from your point of view. @@GamerGeezer

@madmax2069 15 күн бұрын

Should have tested a Sata SSD as well, long side the Sata HDD. Just to see if any differences between the HDD and SSD.

@jeromeprin5668 11 күн бұрын

Question : are there games that works on a solution and not on another?

@PrimeRetroGamer 10 күн бұрын

Yes! But I have no general idea what the percentage of games works with one and not another. It's generally believed that USB is the most incompatible and HDD is most compatible.

@user-uz5kv4gn3v 7 ай бұрын

Лучший обзор

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

I agree.

@FeiXenogears 6 ай бұрын

Can you saves your games to the HDD so you do not need a memory card? Also can you save ps1 games?

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

Internal HDD? USB? Yes for both questions on both storage-devices.

@FeiXenogears 5 ай бұрын

Thanks@@tnaplastic2182

@ByeWorld 8 ай бұрын

Why the MX4SIO have a lower performance on slim models?

@tnaplastic2182 7 ай бұрын

1. Not all Slims but DECKARD-PS2s (SCPH-75k+). 2. Because of the "emulated IOP" or simply slower SIO2-Ports. We are not 100% sure yet.

@Anthestudios 6 ай бұрын

@@tnaplastic2182 Thanks, this was the missing piece of the puzzle for me in this video!

@TheMagnificentGman Ай бұрын

Why does MX4ISO on slim fall short of the phat performance?

@PrimeRetroGamer Ай бұрын

AFAIK Sony reduced memory card bus speed on Slim consoles starting with SCPH-75000.

@TheMagnificentGman Ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer ah I see. Thanks for the reply.

@darkspartan566 5 ай бұрын

so just wondering is there anyone that can get a ps1 game to work now? that's all i'm really trying to figure out lol

@PrimeRetroGamer 5 ай бұрын

You can in a way, but it uses emulation and it's not always very accurate. I personally don't even bother, but look into POPStarter if you are interested.

@unlimitedslash Күн бұрын

Could you try with a SATA SSD instead of a crappy 5400 RPM HDD? Or with a 7200rpm HDD.

@PrimeRetroGamer Күн бұрын

@@unlimitedslash difference is within margin of error. Speed is limited by old interface, not the drive speed.

@baguete02 10 ай бұрын

I use SMB over a raspberry pi with a direct connection to my silver slim PS2, but instead of using an external HDD or even an USB thumb drive I placed a 512gb NVME SATA SSD in a USB external case in to the raspberry Pi port and I measured 35seconds to load GTA San Andreas.

@PrimeRetroGamer 10 ай бұрын

It's overkill, PS2s SMB will not get close to saturating that kind of bandwidth. But with SSD prices dropping it's a good way to future proof your setup. It won't help much with any loading speed though. Did you measure with a savegame that loads in Doherty and did you time it the same way I did? Loading CJs house savegame, for example, is faster.

@baguete02 10 ай бұрын

I know it won't fully take advantage of the NVME transfer speeds but it was the only way I could use a larger storage with the raspberry 1 USB ports, a hard drive needs more power from the USB ports to function properly, I think the newer Pi models actually have USB 3.0 ports. Actually the initial load was from a new game , no saves on the memory card, it loads one in game cutscene indeed , I'll progress through the game to get to this location and test again.

@PrimeRetroGamer 10 ай бұрын

Ah, I see, makes sense. Even if it didn't, that's fine too. I use SATA SSD on my Xbox even though it's mostly a waste. It's quiet and reliable though. Yeah, that's where the difference is from. I noticed this when I did my testing, that's why I specifically tested Doherty save. @@baguete02

@tnaplastic2182 9 ай бұрын

@@baguete02I'd simply use an SD, which you can use in ALL scenarios.

@baguete02 9 ай бұрын

@@tnaplastic2182 a 512gb microSD card costs more than a NVME here , I only used a small one to install raspian

@marllysongomes7584 8 ай бұрын

all that was left was the test with i-link firewire to see how the performance would be.

@tnaplastic2182 7 ай бұрын

It's ~6-7MB/s. Not sure in-game, but it should be "on par" with internal HDD and UDPBD, although internal HDD can read WAY faster (~80MB/s AFAIR) in test-apps.

@XantoS771 3 күн бұрын

For slim ps2 users, SMB is the best way, in my opinion

@HyperSF2 11 ай бұрын

Great video, how do these methods compare with the original DVD drive, faster or slower?

@PrimeRetroGamer 11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Hard to tell exactly, because that is very dependent on DVD drive health. I had tested GTA San Andreas load time (Fat) and it was slower on DVD than HDD and even SMB, but my DVD drive might be on it's last leg. I might dig more into it at a later point - I have a few consoles I can compare, but I have to make sure their drives are in good health.

@AwesomesMan 5 ай бұрын

SMB with raspberry pi seems still seems like the best setup for the PS2 Slim since it doesn’t require a pc running simultaneously when you wanna play.

@tnaplastic2182 4 ай бұрын

UDPBD works on RasPi as well as OpenWrt as well…

@samfadel4997 9 ай бұрын

Ps2 fat with hdd best way to play backups

@breikgg 7 ай бұрын

Playing budokai tenkaichi 3 in USB is a pain in the ass every time you transform because of the load times

@RazzeeTV Ай бұрын

Why is MX4SIO faster with a Fat model? It does not make sense to me. The USB being faster in the Slim model, either.

@PrimeRetroGamer Ай бұрын

Hardware differences. Some PS2 games do not even work on a Slim.

@marllysongomes7584 9 ай бұрын

Será que daria pra usar IA pra traduzir e dublar esse video?

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

Existe a opção de tradução automática para legendas disponíveis.

@marllysongomes7584 9 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer Sim eu sei. E uso tbm! Porém a legenda atrapalha na hora de ver o desempenho de cada.

@eternalsuffering7374 5 ай бұрын

what about the custom OPL build that allows exfat HDDs to run games, are they slower than running the HDD the normal way?

@aboutmygaming 7 ай бұрын

I did't get what actually caused the difference between mx4sio speeds on fat and slim consoles? And is there any difference in speeds between different models of similar size. For example is there a difference between mx4sio on slim 7xxxx and 9xxxx slim consoles?

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

IOP (up to and including SCPH-70k) vs. DECKARD-PPC (hardware-mapped pseudo-emulated IOP, 75k and up...)

@kekff7710 10 ай бұрын

is it possible to launch PSX Backups as well? Or is it only PS2 Backups ?

@PrimeRetroGamer 10 ай бұрын

For PSX backups you'd have to use POPStarter, which is basically a PS1 emulator for PS2. It's better than nothing, but I wouldn't recommend it. Many games have issues with compability. You can run burned CD backups with Mechapwn hack, but that means you'd have to burn every disc. Of course modchip does this as well. No other notable methods I can think of. Hope this helps somewhat.

@tnaplastic2182 9 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamerPatches exist! 😊

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

They do, but it's a hassle to deal with and compatibility won't be 100% anyway. For me it's not worth it. If I didn't have any other solutions though, it's something I'd consider.@@tnaplastic2182

@tnaplastic2182 9 ай бұрын

@@PrimeRetroGamer A hastle?? Copy&Paste?! ;) The compatibility is very high with those, though...!

@That_Handle 7 ай бұрын

Does the PS1 incompatibility infer that, since they are CD based games, that PS2 CD based games, also, won't work? - i.e., Tribes: Aerial Assault, etc.?

@larzprissel5983 9 ай бұрын

do this for og xbox!

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

I guess I could compare DVD vs HDD vs SSD vs Cheap Adapter with SSD. There is also UDMA5 mode with some BIOSes.. Hmm, interesting idea. I will give it a thought.

@TheGMan. 6 ай бұрын

Does the slow data transfer of usb affect game play at all ?

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

It's alright in most games, when the game/level/etc. has loaded.

@ADSteam1994 7 ай бұрын

apparently zso shouldnt be used with mx4sio because it can effect loading times

@tnaplastic2182 6 ай бұрын

Depends on the game.

@FLipeer.FLipeer.FLipeeR 10 ай бұрын

グラティドーデウス・アベノエヴィダロンガエプロスペラ。 🖖

@LudovicoDev 2 ай бұрын

The best way cheap and easy is to use MX4Sio

@BashoStrikes 9 ай бұрын

My slim PS4 performs slightly faster with the MX4ISO than does my fat model.

@Black-lw8nd 5 ай бұрын

what build?

@cesarandrade5387 2 ай бұрын

Just bought a MX4SIO for my PS2 slim and i'm dissapointed 😅

@PrimeRetroGamer 2 ай бұрын

It is what it is. 😅 It’s okay for games like Tekken 5.

@tnaplastic2182 Ай бұрын

Improvements might be possible! PPC side code could improve that.

@cesarandrade5387 Ай бұрын

@@tnaplastic2182 just played a lot of games with no issues, just had minor lags at kingdom hearts cutscenes but it was worth it! Much better than usb

@dontdothis8500 9 ай бұрын

HDD performs best as expected, but good luck keeping the Network Adapter working after you keep removing amd inserting it into your PS2 Phat more Tham twice 😢

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

Hmm, I don't have this kind of issue. Do you have OEM one or a clone?

@dontdothis8500 9 ай бұрын

@PrimeRetroGamer Just the original. The HDD can't be read no matter how well I try to insert the Network Adapter. My HDD is just fine because the HDL Dump GUI can detect it just fine on my computer.

@PrimeRetroGamer 9 ай бұрын

Maybe try using contact cleaner on all the connectors? That has helped me a lot with older consoles. If that doesn't work, maybe it just died? I wouldn't rule that out.@@dontdothis8500

@dontdothis8500 9 ай бұрын

@PrimeRetroGamer It's as clean as a whistle. Anyway, the same thing happened to the one I used prior, which was a third-party device by GameStar. Three or more insertions, and it's fucked beyond repair! Also, on both devices I used, it kept getting harder amd harder to turn the screws on both ends, which is how I first found out that something's wrong

@samfadel4997 9 ай бұрын

Use opl exfat