Im glad you got out of that cult, but sorry to say that you never had God And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 1 John 5:11‭-‬12 KJV I can understand your pain of growing up in restrictive religious environment.. it really kills the desire to really know God, but he is still there for you just ask in the name of Jesus Christ and you will receive.

I love 💜 him.

Wow. He’s looks great for 82. Hopefully we have him around for a while.

@darkreverie7027 indeed I hope i look like him @ his age and still doing KZfaq

@@darkreverie7027 I hope so, too. God bless.

Great to have such brains and at 80 still has his good looks and mellow speaking voice.

Being 'woke' originally was about being aware of racism is all its forms, not just the more obvious KKK style. It has since expanded to being aware of discrimination in many forms. Sexuality is one that I do not see as problematic to be 'woke' about - people are literally attracted to people of the same sex, there isn't really any doubt about that from reasonable people. Trans ideology, on the other hand, is essentially a neo-religion wanting to be forced upon people, whether they believe it or not - with really dangerous laws being passed to accomodate this, including indoctrinating children. The 'woke' argument being made here has taken a wrong turn - it shouldn't even be thought of as woke to promote the desires of a religion in the first place. The problem isn't 'woke', the problem is the trojan horse that has passed through the gates.

You are not alone!

​@@RJWhitmore brilliant take!

youre certainly not alone..most people have of common sense and don't buy into that nonsense

i think it is just, a fad. get used to it. imagine the variety as biological and genetic engineering progress at a speed we are just not ready for. we are going to become human machine bio hybrids in our lifetime. sooner than we thought for sure. they can make lab mice have purple hair or glow on the dark. Brace yourself for body modification gone wild!

Yes, me too but I did that at age 15 when the preacher's sermon rattled my brain enough for me to reject the notion of religion ! Slava Dawkins, Slava Ukraini !

@@linmal2242 Heroyam Slava

It sounds like you rejected all the evidence.

It sounds like you have an opinion.

@@andyh5300 and your point is ?

Although I have many differences with much of what he says, try reading "The madness of Crowds" by Douglas Murray

Explains AA NA CA SA MA. All those 12 step religious programs that is the new religion across the world. But its members become more and more deluded as time passes.

@@Csio12 please help me, what are AA NA CA SA MA?

Darwinian Evolutionary Religion does not belong in the science classroom as it is a contested ideology, it is far from being a fact of science. We should stand up against things we consider to be harmful and troublesome to the health of a nation. Darwinian religion taught as a fact to students is a back door to promoting alsorts of immoral behaviour! It encourages perverse sexual orientations which have always been around throughout the centuries. It sears the consciences of many concerning right and wrong. It promote theft, gambling, adultery, lying, violence and murder etc. If there is no God to answer too for our words and actions, why bother to behave! Sin takes peace away from the earth and replaces it with anarchy, chaos and confusion. When sin gets out of control then curfews will be imposed upon the populace. The nations of the world have rejected the loving words of Jesus to their own detriment. Jesus said love God with all of your heart, [and God is a spirit which you cannot see, but you can get to a place where you feel his power and presence in the temple of your body] and love your neighbour as your self. What is there not to understand? And what is there not to love about Jesus? All the denominations we have today are not the Lord's will, they bring confusion to those who are seeking to know Jesus and understand his teachings. Every idle word spoken by preachers that does not line up with the teachings of Jesus shall be condemned on the day of judgment. Just as many of the Pharisees and Sadducees shall be condemned as they would not adhere to the loving commandments of Jesus. Many refused to repent after the death are resurrection of Jesus. An angel descended from heaven whose countenance was like lightening and for fear of him the Roman soldiers fled the scene and some of them reported back and told the Sanhedrin what had really happened. They gave them large summons of money to the soldiers in order for them to tell a lie, saying his disciples came by night and stole his body away. They said to the soldiers, if what really happened comes to Pilates ears, we will persuade him and secure you. Suppression of the truth still goes on today regarding the insurmountable evidence against evolution. At all costs, they must suppress, ignore and disregard all evidences against evolution, they must protect the sacred cow of their religion. Jesus predicted all this during his ministry right up to the end of this present age.

So glad that you have found contentment and serenity - those are gifts from God which is ironic that you attribute them to RD. Keep searching - eventually RD too will disappoint you. Our hearts are restless until they find God (St Augustine) - the only one who does not disappoint. Peace to you. :-)

He is also a very fast runner. Look at how fast he ran from William Lane Craig.

Agreed. I don't use the pronoun stuff. Let's just call everyone human being.

The bitter irony is that it is women who are leading the attack on women's language and women's rights. The majority of people supporting and pushing gender woo are young women, sadly. The boom in gender clinics is driven by young women showing up because they want to become men.

@@beverly9 I highly doubt he believes you can "earn" the ability to change sex. I'm not sure what he said, that you're referring to, but you seem to imply, that maybe he thinks that "10 year effort" is evidence the man is SINCERE in "wanting to be a woman" (whatever that means)? And that he thinks that SINCERITY deserves a degree of respect? Personally, I'm pretty hardline on the "gender" stuff- I will ONLY use sex-correct pronouns, and to me "woman" and "man" are strictly defined by sex- Zero exceptions. ...but there WAS a time, when I still swallowed the "whats the harm?" narrative, and used wrong-sex pronouns for people who self-ID as trans, "to be polite"... Me being 'peaked' was a gradual process, that took time- And I think that's the case for most people, who start from a position of seeing transgenderism as part of the "LGBT", who they're used to supporting. Give him time, maybe 6 months or a year (or maybe significantly less), and I'll bet money he'll end up with the same universal rejection of the ENTIRE ideology. But he's only just recently STARTED talking about this topic, in any depth- I don't think it's surprising he's probably going through the same GRADUAL process of being 'peaked', as most critics of "gender" ideology do... But the fact that he's BEING critical of it, AT ALL makes me think that TOTAL rejection of the WHILE ideology will come sooner, rather than later. The last thing we need, as critics of "gender" nonsense, is to have the same zero-tolerance for ANY diversity of opinion, or for changing beliefs, that the PRO-"gender" ideologues enforce so zealously...

Proof that some atheists are not immune to stylized complex propaganda. Do you realize how much money has been spent on anti-trans think tanks over the past decade by groups on the far right and how so many on the left also have the wrong takes on trans matters? Meanwhile many trans youth and adults in the USA and other countriesare begging politicians not to take away their healthcare and right to exist in public, sounds "all powerful" right? Do you realize biology is an extremely complex subject way to complicated for the average layperson who attended high school 101 to comprehend, oversimplification of biology only serves to maintain patriarchal authoritarian control of the masses by enforcing by law the idea of the gender binary for all based on sex observed at birth. Do you even understand why supporting the authoritarian fascist regime in Russia declaring lgbt folk "enemies of the state" and "a danger to women and children" is being on the wrong side of history? Just because of what you believed to be a democratic nation in the past? If being trans is "a religion" rather than a medical condition that has been used by bad faith wealthy opportunists as a wedge issue to in turn attack the queer community and pass draconian laws to eradicate a micro minorities freedom of expression and right to exist in public, as a Trojan horse to normalize/soft sell fascist ideology to eventually attack all lgbq rights. then women's rights to bodily autonomy after that. FYI; Pronouns have always been in the dictionary and used daily whether you realize it or it hurts your feelings to show common decency to others.

​@@baconsarny-geddon8298they will try to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and that will be us gays who have been around forever. I think there is some chance the ideology was reinforced as a means of controlled opposition to try to associate gays, lesbians and bisexuals and disenfranchise them and associate them with absurdity.

"The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sleep_of_Reason_Produces_Monsters

The Flying Spaghetti Monster being an outlier.

@@SteersmanOaring This is part of the reason why. But even rational dogma is dangerous. One may also reason themselves into identity politics. Although perhaps it's ironic, I would say I'm dogmatic about the absolute avoidance of dogma.

@@foreignwindow I wouldn't classify the FSM as a dogma inducing entity.

Pascal sympathizes with the passionate agnostic who struggles daily with the ultimate question of whether God exists. But the sad fact is that most “nones” and agnostics are not passionate truth-seekers. In the end, far too many think, “Who cares? What does it really matter? How is this relevant to me? Religion is boring.” . Intellectual uncertainty is understandable. Indifference to the question of God is insanity.

Formal Logic won't help this agenda. I have a degree in mathematics and it has not changed my faith. Didn't change the faith of Riemann or Euler either. Emotion and social pressures will always be the main driving forces in society. Even Genetically Modified Skeptic's channel is slowly gravitating from atheism to satanism. Am I surprised? No. David Hume said you can't get an ought from an is. That's why logic and reason and science don't help. They only deal with what exists now. Not with what things ought to be.

I'm not sure if your basic premise is correct. Has there been a rise in atheism? In the UK religion seems alive and well, especially amongst immigrant communities and their UK born children. 300K - 500K immigrants coming into the country annually bringing their religions with them. Maybe it's different in your country.

@@michaelb2388 Your anecdote notwithstanding, a Google search for religious affiliation over the past 100 years would seem to paint a different picture.

Well, rationality is important to SOME, but it's not like it's required by nature or anything. Nature doesn't care whether we pursue truth or not. It doesn't even care if we continue to evolve and survive.

Very funny

@@zapkvr Very funny comment !

We had 'the age of reason' woke is the epitome of unreason. Lets hope it is not the undoing of us all.

People die with the illusion of reason, Or people die with God's love. Well perhaps the remembrance of how clever or great some people were in the short life will live on forever dont you think?

@@NSOcarth I apologize that i did not understand the meaning.

My theory is that those who were raised in religion - mostly fear it is true. Reverts raised in atheism convert and desire it is true. And there is a third group of those for whom religion is a tradition run in the family. And they fear to say they do not believe and just pretend and take part in the show.

the main reason people believe something is cause it makes them feel good. Not to have control of sth generates a lot of anxiety. Irreversible facts are our worst nightmare. Believing in an all powerful-God and believing you can make a connection with God enables one to have access to an entity that has absolute control over everything. This is perfect to reduce anxiety and fear, cause it puts you in control of everything.

You're right, Christianity is true.

As an old biddy who tries to view things rationally and settle on the best course of action, I have an observation. I understand that critical thinking is a process but the people I have met, or read, who claim to use critical thinking have put me right off looking it up EDIT I suppose if I am smart it could improve me, I just do not want to be one of those who think it is their third eye.... old biddy here, ignore me

@@josmith9662 They most likely did not posses good critical thinking skills in that case! However Richard Dawkins, Neil Degrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan have good videos on critical thinking.

​@@EmberrebmeNeil has lost his mind.

@@Emberrebme Just a bug bear of mine, any username with critical thinker, truth seeker or similar, usually means unbalanced obssesive..... I might have an explicit read but I am resisting as I am with the new fangdangled pay to win game console generation. Now please respect my wishes and ignore me

Hi, I disagree. Science can be used to build atomic bombs or toasters. Reason is a means to achieve your ends, not choose them.

He’s not tackled anything about trans at all, all he’s done is attack the Fox News version of trans. It’s analogous to someone attacking evolution because a rock can’t turn into a dog

Yes civility and calm work conversation for those who are sycophants for the system and benefit most, from the capitalist system, not the unhinged righteous rage of the truly marginalized, misrepresented, misunderstood and oppressed .

@@sophiepooks2174 have you joined the wrong thread by accident?

​@@Mark13091961😂😂😂

she definitely fell into the "racist/transphobic old white men who think they're intellectuals and can therefore define the reality of marginalized groups" part of youtube@@Mark13091961

At 82 or is that ageist?

and PATIENT! omg

@@eutectoid1 he is not ageist . He defended these wrong ideas when he was young too.

I don’t think he being very astute on this argument. Example BLM has been one of the biggest “woke” but if you look up the demographics of BLM supporters, activists and members they are just about what you would expect in so far as the general population. The people in BLM are already religious. To me that goes against the claim that irreligosity is to blame for new ideas with similar frame works. Maybe it religions indoctrination of children that open up the pathways in the brain to allow bad ideas to flourish. I’d love that instead of just claiming “wokism” as being wrong theee people who put more research into it. They’d soon realise they might be wrong. With the example they use about men being able to give birth or have periods (can’t remember the exactness of the claim) I think what has happened is that people are rejecting the physical body as the determining factor of who we are so when they say men can give birth they don’t mean a guy born with a penis and balls can give birth they mean that a person who is a man in their nature and psychology but who is in a woman’s body, can give birth. The anti-trans brigade it’s seems have flipped the claim so they can attack it easier, or perhaps they’ve just misunderstood.

@@Theactivepsychos “…a person who is man in their nature and psychology but who is in a woman’s body, can give birth “: this would imply to me simply that this woman is attracted to women ( men generally are!). Nothing wrong with being lesbian, butch or otherwise, is there?

It’s a shame a philosopher needed reexplaining that and doesn’t understand basic other things.

It is very refreshing to see an intelligent individual like Dawkins see the religious similarities in Trans ideology and many other religions in the world. I would say I do not have a problem with anyone following illogical delusions as long as they do not hurt others, however, when they interact with children or voting systems it is very difficult to see how religious followers could *not* hurt others with their delusions. The Trans ideology is merely the latest in a long line of such, unfortunately this one seems to have trojan horsed into the mainstream as something other than what it is. Until the horse is shown to be hollow the ones shouting from the roof tops of the dangers are unfortunately being vilified.

@@RJWhitmore Well said!

DAWKINS HA SIDO TOTALMENTE REFUTADO kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNB0jceQqM23g58.html

Such a shame the atheist experience is labelling him as a bigot

@@jackabbott1754 What is "the atheist experience?"He is a bigot on some issues he presumes to be be an expert on, as he is intellectually lazy/ grossly ignorant about them, he has not done sufficient research on those "issues" to assume to be an authority on them but only for the sake of popularity, or personal prejudice does he press on with his opinions on such.

​@@jackabbott1754English is tough.

Wow an anime avatar that isn’t a T* identified person!

I really wish Hitchens was here, too. He’d would have called out this nonsense

@@Ithaca-vv5dy Vale C H !

​@@NSOcarth Have dowsing, astrology, palm reading, phrenology, astral traveling resulted in laws being changed to force women to accept men in our pri /sons? Also why are you assuming OP endorses any of those things?

@@NSOcarth Why did you assume OP was "silent on" the things you listed?

Me too. I thought feminists would surely protect women. How wrong we were

Depends on a number of extremely complex factors, currently this is merely another far right/terf/ GC wedge issue, not actually based in reality but anxiety, fearmongering and conspiracy theories, as I cannot think of any trans women currently doing anything globally, or even locally in female sports, most are blanket banned from competing from age 7 yet a whole generation of trans women who never went through male puberty and were socialized as girls, still; "the science is out". Conservative societies desperation to not update it's understanding and language, to over simplify/stick to outdated understanding of such complex/nuanced subjects such as sex/ biology/gender only serves to support the current patriarchal system, to maintain the status quo and make it easier to control and oppress the masses via binary enforcement of sex and gender.

@@sophiepooks2174 I am not sure you have the correct information on the current trans athletes who holds world records in the female category. And it is also not a good faith signal to mention far right as soon as new rules in sports are being questioned. The name "mens section" is not technically correct and should in most sports be renamed the open section. Gymnastics might be an exception where male physique is worse in the women's section and vice versa. The open category is open for everyone, so nobody is being excluded. And the female category is there to exclude people because the open category is not fair for half the population. There is paralympics and there are strict rules. You can't just join because one foot is a bit bigger than the other. When rules of categories change drastically, it is not unusual for people to question it and the reasons for them

@@sophiepooks2174 Not that complex. Men and women have different biology. Thinking otherwise is creationism, and denial of evolution. Weight lifters, chess players, swimmers, cyclists... there's plenty of them. Some are relegated to their correct category now, but not all of them. And the fact this was a fight at all demonstrates the delusion. You don't get to look around after the war and say "what was the big deal"? Especially with your eyes closed.

😂 reading bible made me atheist. Dawkins just made me realise i was 100% correct

So you should study more (from another non religious person, agnostic. More precisely).

​@@gregczarlinski2811hmmmm...

😂😂😂

Nice to know you are a deep and considered thinker 😅

was it wonderful? or woefully idiotic. People are not wine. People are not blood. Humans are not Things. We are beautiful complex psychological creatures.

@Daodan1618 many, if your legacy of psychological trappings were codified by white western CIS straight MEN. Many pple are BORN outside these psychological trappings

I agree that wokeism is the residue of Christianity. I believe Tom Holland (not the actor) has said that the reason we find certain acts to be deplorable today (such as how Harvey Weinstein treats women) is because we've inherited a Christian morality. It's deeply rooted within our culture.

I was going to say that too, that Nietzsche made this point quite long ago so there's not much novelty in this "Substitution hypothesis"; not to say anything about it being a blatant truism from psychological point of view.

The theory that Woke is Gnostic, and so an inversion of Christianity, is popular at the moment. Clearly it's a Manichean world view, a little Neoplatonist too, and these were all related sects.

Well you mucked up your mind with other thing same shit just different view but you choice what you want I guess

Shermer is the best

Oh really? So all the common people all believe trans folk are legit? "The wise" in a capitalist system are; 'the wealthy millionaire /billionaire classes' And the rulers; wanting to eradicate transgender folk.

Toyota said that?

Agree, however one side does have decades of peer reviewed studies and scientific evidence of such medical conditions being legit and much proof many of the people they condemn as "mentally ill degenerates" have been part of society for a long time, in 1934 the Nazis destroyed all such studies on trans and gender variance at the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft and this is not the first time authoritarians have outlawed and attempted to erase non heterosexuals and gender varients. Obviously authoritarians and the conservative patriarchy see the existence of transsexuals as a real threat to their power and control of the masses, or else they would not have been spending as much money as the Vatican has spent trying to prove the existence of Christ and many of the biblical artifacts mentioned in it as legitimate. We are seeing in states of the USA and many other countries slowly embracing authoritarianism the criminalization of healthcare and very self expression of trans folk, to even mention they exist can get a teacher a heavy jail sentence. What an anxious and strange world we live in.

Religion is just a manifestation of tribalism. Shared ritual creates in-group cohesion. Religions were quite literally just "national religions" until the "universal religions" like Christianity, Islam etc. came about (which also have tribalistic function).

you said dicks and peters ha ha

@baconsarmy-geddon8298 Huh! These two men have been denounced for calling out how ridiculous "trans" is. These two men denounce the idea that somebody can just declare a different gender.

I agree.

I do not believe you HAVE to believe a delusion. It is a little condescending to propose a watered down version of Christianity or Islam for Africa. 😂 ok it was tongue in cheek perhaps.

Gender Studies should be dropped as a course of study at any university.

I marvel at scientific discovery.

So true, Simon! Freud wrote and spoke a century ago about humanity's tendency to abdicate their personal responsibility by letting others (including institutional religions and religious leaders) make their decisions for them. He, too, longed to see our society grow up and take on the arduous task of rationality.

I witness this myself in my own country. In the battle against religious fanaticism, especially during the heated campaign during the previous presidential election, people used another "religion" which is the national ideology. It is proven later that both ideologies are equally harmful and demonizing their opponents. Both are not capable of rational discussion or thought. And actually, this is just another swing of the same pendulum. Several decades ago, my country was highly nationalistic, and it became very religious in let say 20 years. Now the pendulum is swinging to the nationalistic side again.

Spiritual?

Yes James. My definition of 'spiritual' is a profound sense of connection - thereby not requiring a deity or religion. Dawkins 'Ancestor's Tale' provided me with that sense of connection through his description of the ancient depth of evolutionary process. @@jameskolar9655

Agreed 👍 😊

The People’s Temple-religious cult.

I wasn’t raised with religion and I haven’t been sucked into any cults. I honestly believe it’s something to do with your brain chemistry.

Everyone anyways has a religion, they just don't always have a name for it.

@@kierasthoughts2480 you and @margaretmm1627 are both right. I wasn't raised with religion, but I got sucked into Catholicism and happily ended up with no religion. The thing is some people are more prone to addictions/ cults than others. I am aware of being in the risk group and thanks to education I know how to avoid being sucked. As an educator, I try to pass my knowledge and experience down to students. I am incredibly grateful to scientists like Richard Dawkins!!!!

Society needs delusion to cope. The important part is not letting that delusion be a vehicle for political tyranny.

I love how Richard Dawkins is aligned with christian nutheads nowadays instead of following how reality actually flows and how it speaks back to us. absurd.

Indeed , I'm with RD on his anti woke stance though I'm Christian.

@@tomgreene1843 cause ur both Christians lol

Christian here too, but with Dawkins (and many other atheists) over the woke brigade. Strange alliance

Indeed it is !@@jameshollands7656

The real problem is people confusing biology with sociology. Unfortunately, most people don't have the vocabulary or understanding of the difference. In biology, there is no doubt there are only 2 sexes. Gender and the "traditional gender roles" are purely a sociological construct. As our society changes, by definition, I would expect the sociology of "gender" to be changing as well.

That's a very good point

Here in California the problem of the sexes is something that the media, the schools, and the government is forcing down our throats. It is not something we think about or talk about in real life except when it affects us directly. Parents who have children in school (thank God my children are adults) are fighting because their children are being taught that they can change their sex. Women in sports are fighting when a man pretending to be a woman enters the sport. Some 15 years ago California declared all public bathrooms unisex and for a while stores that had public bathrooms went along with it. The idea died away because people like me, who needed to use a bathroom in the middle of shopping, cancelled shopping and just went home to use their own "safe, no man lurking inside" bathroom. The Netherlands just decided that a very ugly pretend woman to be Miss Netherlands.

I live in Austria and it's definitely an issue here too. Everywhere, but especially in educational institutions. There are several "trans kids" in nearly every classroom now. In reality they usually are autistic or have mental health conditions. Or, they're just alternative teens who would have been goth, emo, punk etc. in the 90s. Often, they dye their hair blue. I doubt it's not a problem in Sweden. But most people outside of these institutions don't realize/notice it. Being "attractive" has nothing to do with the discussion though.

@@valerianmandrake Sorry that I got a little emotional, it just annoys me how the gender activists have such a holier than thou attitude. I wonder if they understand how their outrageous claims engender disdain and hatred. I saw a discussion where someone was justifying death threats because of misgendering. The vitriol they spew while talking about "inclusivity" is so hypocritical.

I'm in the UK. I was served by a bearded man wearing a dress in a very large department store. (Totally inappropriate behaviour around children IMO and he looked ridiculous). The lady in front of me said loudly, "us women have to stick together". I could have kissed her! So no, it is very real but in my experience anyway, very rare. Incidentally, a supermarket chain during "pride" month festooned their shops with flags and bunting. Literally, pushing this in our faces. Unfortunately, it's not restricted to the online world of social media.

@@simonshee5155 I really don't have a problem with a man wearing a dress. A man can dress however he wants. He can even have a female name. But he cant claim he is a biological woman saying he know how it is to be a woman, because he can't.

Such as? Care to enlighten us?

@@NSOcarth Regardless of whether religious objects of worship exist or not, adults seeking worshipful, blind subservience to anyone is dangerously irresponsible on top of being pathetic. It's the same impulse behind those following human cult leaders, and is no better when directed towards any supposed deity.

@@sophiepooks2174 Such as needing blind, dogmatic faith in an ideology to fill a void of meaning in one's life. A desperate need to abdicate moral responsibility for one's self to some external authority. Etc.

Tell us all Kimani what you believe in? What is your coping strategy for your existential deficiencies? Einstein wrote about his beliefs concerning Science and Religion and I wouldn't characterize him as irrational or having an irrational belief system.

@@NSOcarth Why? Because he's irrational? 😂🤣😂

Most gender ideologues are privileged people of Anglo-Saxon heritage. Their racism accusations are bogus.

Not always. Certainly the U.S. has had higher levels of religiosity for the past 100-120 years. I’m not sure that always holds in the 19th century or before. The Victorian era was quite evangelical; Prior to the 1850’s, Catholics, Jews, and Atheists could not be seated in the House of Commons. The prohibition on any established religion in the U.S. Constitution stands in stark contrast. For what it’s worth, I truly admire the British Constitution (and it’s evolution), as well as the remarkable political efficacy of it’s people.

Irrelevant. Intersex people (people with DSD) have literally nothing to do with trans ideology, and have been coopted by trans rights activists in an attempt to legitimise their metaphysical claims. Also, people with DSD still have a sex. They just have medical conditions related to this sex, ie only men can have Klinefelter syndrome. DSD people with noticeable symptoms are a tiny minority, they are accommodated in society, and do not cause any issues. 99.999% of transidentified people do not have a DSD, although they sure would like to because in their mind it would make them more valid. Which is pathetic. Again, DSD is not a fun third sex, it means that people have a serious medical condition.

Intersex is a birth defect.

Why? Intersex people do have a sex. And they are a very small percent of the population. You're making a logical fallacy.

@@SchroderCat : if you think that's a logical fallacy you need to get back in your box.

He's like a saviour isnt it? may be we should build a shrine or something.

So, the best way to reduce trans-related suicides is to forbid any social acknowledgement and legal support to people who face this issue, and threat it as an illness (or a sin) as it has been traditionally approached. On the other hand, I find it very dissapointing that people consider such a tragic problem as something funny.

It doesn't reduce suicide, because trans is not the underlying cause. They're not suicidal because they're trans, they adopt a trans identity in response to their existing anxieties and depressions. There is no statistical difference between suicide of trans-claiming kids and kids with anxiety, depression, trauma, etc. It's exactly the same proportion, which demonstrates the reality. It would not be welcome. Anything which quantifies or tries to explain with biology will not be looked upon kindly, as it means "science" will come up with a way of performing "conversion therapy" on trans. They want you to just accept their claim unquestioningly. The fact this contradicts their bogus "trans brain" claim, and the fact they want drugs and surgeries is irrelevant. That's the religiosity.

Not at all compelling. I think your first question is actually quite easy to answer: if there was a person who committed suicide in any of those countries you mentioned because they were trans, we probably would not know it. Hell, they might not even know it. The suicide would simply be attributed to some other cause. This should sound familiar, because this is akin to people talking about how autism rates are the highest they've ever been, or how there are more gay people than there have ever been. It's probable that neither of these things are true. 50 years ago, we didn't have the tools to diagnose autism to the extent we do today... so people who were actually autistic were never diagnosed. 50 years ago, being gay in the US was substantially more dangerous than it is today, so many gay people chose to hide.

You are so damn brave,this honestly makes me smile. Seeing people understanding Dawkins and finding themselves again.