I have no idea how Pokemon convinces people to have such low standards. Don't listen to people saying they're "small nitpicks", if you look at literally ANY other online card game client this looks like a student project. Just the lack of attention to the organic animation principles you highlighted is baffling. The lack of illustrations and consistency on menus is bizarre coming from an IP with such incredible art. Keep sharing your thoughts man.

It's awful how almost NONE of the issues we complained about when the client came out were fixed. It's been an entire year. As someone who played in 2011, the PTCGO looked better then than live does now.

"A Tabletop game takes place on a tabletop not a spaceship" truer words have never been said

Wife: how could you cheat on me Me: they gave me free lugias

I'm both a 2D and 3D artist. I've done animations in both mediums, as well as countless other still pieces. I've been doing art for a majority of my life, and it's something I'm passionate about. I've also been playing and collecting the TCG for about half of my life now, with a good chunk of that of course being on PTCGO. I want to share my thoughts and opinions on PTCG Live. I feel like there's a very, VERY simple fix for the bad animations. Just make them feel how they do in real life. Instead of drawing a card and having it fly into your face from seemingly nowhere, have it smoothly and gently slide from the deck into your hand while turning to reveal itself. Have energy cards slide behind the selected Pokemon, etc. If they can mimic that feeling of playing a game IRL, it would be much better. The holo effects are disgusting too. Harsh bands of color on basically everything, no variation. Holographic effects are not hard to make, but they're hard to get right. They HAVE holo patterns they can pull from, and yet they just, didn't. It's sad when I can get a better sense of how a card looks from their website than their official simulator game. Having the opponents cards face towards you also just looks really wrong. It looks more like a someone laying out their collection than it does an in-progress game. I'm perfectly fine with having the HP values face towards you, but to have to opponents cards face you can just get confusing and again, looks horribly wrong. Also, the way it is now, their hand goes OVER some of the HP values, so they're harder to read as opposed to if they were, oh I don't know, where they're SUPPOSED to be? If there's one thing I will say looks nice, it's the coin flip animation. I mean, you can't really mess up something that simple, but seeing the rest of the game, who knows. That's just depressing though. This is supposed to be a modern upgrade to a decade old game, and yet the only thing that even comes close to matching the quality of the original is a simple coin flip. The low quality textures and god awful holo patterns are downright disgraceful to the original artists. There are some cards with intricately detailed backgrounds or downright gorgeous character art, and then that gets compressed to all hell and looks like you're viewing it on an iPod Touch. Just pause and look at the Serena card at 15:17, that's a beautiful card, or it WOULD be if you could actually see it properly. It's also horrible from a planning perspective. You CANNOT read any of the text on the cards while they're on the bench or in the active slot, and that's just downright bad design. It removes a lot of crucial information from being seen, and that can really kill a players want for playing the game. The models also look god awful. It looks like they downloaded a base model and some clothing packs from something like the Unreal Marketplace, slapped on a few custom textures, used the absolute most basic lighting possible, and called it a day. The Trainers in PTCGO never looked good by any means, those were complete garbage too, but at least those had some sort of stylized charm to them. These models look like soulless asset flips and nothing more. I also cannot explain to you how infuriating the placement of everything is to me. Your prize cards being lined up like that and RIGHT NEXT TO THE BENCH just hurts to look at. It's ALWAYS been a 2x3 vertical spread, not whatever this is. The deck being DIRECTLY next to the discard pile also just makes me irrationally angry. WHY IS IT THERE?! And then the opponents prize cards are not only facing you, but they're also next to the bench... ON THE SAME SIDE AS YOURS. It's just frustrating to look at. They've HAD a consistent layout for forever, and they just threw it all away. Having stuff like the stacking of duplicate cards is awful too. Imagine if people did that IRL, you see the nice spread of the hand, but then this massive tower that you just go "oh, those must be the energy cards." It's like the people who worked on this understood NOTHING about the PTCG. The PTCGO looks leagues better in comparison. It by no means looks amazing, but it's so much better than Live. The card art is clear and text is legible. The background FEELS like it's two people playing at a table with their own mats (which I wish were customizable, but anyway). The table has a nice wood grain and something people might not notice right away, scratches. This table feels like it's been played on for a decade, whereas the background in Live just looks like a cheap plastic toy you'd buy at your local Target (kind of like those bulky and cheaply made Beyblade arenas). The holo patterns look amazing, and while not that similar to their real life counterparts, do a good job at highlighting both the art and rarity of these cards. These FEEL special, the ones in Live just look like cheap bootlegs you'd pick up at a swap-meet or something. If I can say something I prefer about Live, it's the arrows when scrolling through your deck. The big green ones in PTCGO always stood out a bit too much for my liking, but the simplistic white circles in Live put it more in line with modern apps or something, giving it a sleeker feel. That being said though, the glowing outlines need to come back. They can just be white or a pale yellow, but at LEAST put one around the currently highlighted card. The numbers below the cards didn't need to be changed like the arrows did though. The new ones feel way too small and it's honestly kind of hard to tell the numbers apart from each other. The text boxes in Live feel bland and boring. There's no personality to them, the backgrounds are JUST a solid color, and the lack of transparency basically kills full art cards. Sure, it might make it easier to read the text IN the boxes, but we already HAD a good example of how to do that. Again, I REALLY feel like the people who made this don't understand the TCG at all. They clearly have a huge lack of artistic vision, and someone needs to be brought in to fix it. Live genuinely looks horrible, and it's pissing me off to the point that I almost want to make a mock up of what a modern Pokemon TCG simulator SHOULD look like. It seems like Pokemon is just really dropping the ball hard recently. The terrible quality of Scarlet and Violet, the horrendous look and feel of PTCG Live, who knows what's next. I love Pokemon, always will, and I'm critical of the Pokemon Company because I WANT to see them do better. I want to see Pokemon, in all aspects, be the best it can possibly be, but this just really is not it. Again, this makes me want to try my hand at making at least one mock up of a better looking PTCG online experience. If anyone here wants to see that, I'll do it, but even if you don't, I might just do it anyway.

NGL the ability to play on my phone has increased the amount I play by 5x. That being said I agree with most of your critiques. Lest not forget the current client STILL fails to render cards occasionally and its been in development for over a decade?

Humongous respect for you for not shilling this client. My biggest issue is that the attacks do not feeling impactful at all. Like swinging for 20 damage and 540 damage feel exactly the same.

They probably did have multiple designers create this. The problem is they need a designer, more specifically a Senior Designer to lead the design team who is also an avid player of the Pokemon TCG. If they need someone to help redesign this, I nominate myself

I would also like to see a game log because everything happens so fast

Had to laugh when you showed the difference between PTCGO and LIVE Zeraora V. How can they mess it up this badly when there is a example out there. It's almost insulting to the artist what they have done to the cards.

"Visually assaulted" - very accurate statement there. I'm continuing on ptcgo until they either make huge improvements or I have no choice but to migrate. The critiques throughout the video are spot on, in my opinion. My son's ptcgo account is fairly small so I put live on his new tablet a few days ago as he wanted the Lugia's. For some reason everything is mind numbingly slow to the point it's unplayable. The same tablet runs minecraft just fine. I tried clicking the support button and that didn't even work. The slowness is anomaly I'm sure, but not even being able to submit a support ticket is not helping the cause. This version of the game is a train wreck, and it seems they just keep adding cars as they continue falling off a cliff. Yes, they've made improvements since the initial beta release but it's still atrocious.

It looks like a mobile first product that's been adapted into a desktop client. Where possible they consolidated playmat detail for text boxes. Instead of a VSTAR card they have a text box to the right. Because it appears to be mobile first I'm worried any fixes will be unlikely. Big issue with the card animations is that they basically have the one animation rather than separate animations like PTCGO does. Play energy, slap. Play item, slap. Play Pokémon, slap. Whereas PTCGO will simply attach an energy straight to a Pokémon. Not sure if you noticed but deck search cards let you see the cards that you can grab rather than checking your whole deck. You have to click again to see all cards instead of just the "valid" ones. It's an unnecessary add considering how most players will use search cards to also check their deck to see what's prized.

I agree with everything, the animations, the feel, the smack in the face feeling, the horrible deck building design, CARDS looking horrible in a CARD game, everything. Here are some other problems I've noticed: -because of the curvature of the "hand", when you try to play the left-most card in your hand (like putting down a Pokémon), it struggles to do so. this problem gets worse when you have a giant hand. It usually takes 3 or so tries before the card finally decides to come out of your hand. -You cannot redeem more than 10 TCG codes at once, I thought my codes were messed up until I tried again with the codes that did not work. -everything is just so bright, there's no setting for it. Shop is white, main menu is white, pass is white, end screen is white, it sucks playing at night. -Another problem with the prize cards besides the absolute flash-bang it gives you is that when you have the required prize cards to win, you still have to manually click on them to add them to your hand. Say you only have 2 prize cards left; you knock out an opponent's V Pokémon. The game should automatically end right there like it does in PTCGO, but for some reason, you have to manually click on the 2 prize cards left, THEN win the game (double flash bang yay!). -The card Forest Seal Stone has been disabled for WEEKS due to a bug and has not seen any fix at all. Why is it taking so long to fix a card? -The incredibly ugly and creepy cheap looking 3D avatars. We literally have good trainer models we can borrow from the Pokémon video games and have great customization on them but instead we get these hideous uncanny Polar Express models. I rather have picture avatars at this point. The animation in the emotes, it just annoys you. Even winning doesn't feel good because you see your disgusting cheap model doing those cringe motions.

Man, I love Pokémon Lugia VSTAR Game Live.

What's funny is they actually changed the flashbang to something better but for some reason, it changed back to the old one. It's just all odd.

Funny story related to TPCI's attempted promotion of Live... I bought the Arceus VStar *Ultra* Premium Collection. The $100 one. Advertised on the Pokemon site AND on the box it came with a Card Code. Didn't have the code. Had to go to Pokemon Support, and after explaining the situation, showing multiple proofs of purchase, and giving them a _very lengthy_ write out when they tried to claim there was "confusion", the $100 product _didn't_ include a card code, and attempted to push a *SINGLE DIGITAL BOOSTER PACK* as a consolation... They eventually said they would provide me "Arceus-Themed cards". ...Oh, but not to my PTCGO account. They only intend on giving me the cards owed to me *On PTCG Live.* And since I've not migrated to it, I basically have to wait until I do or am forced to do so then make a 2nd support ticket , then refer to the 1st ticket in order to receive the cards. And I specifically made sure my initial support ticket was for PTCGO and not PTCGLive. I really did want to fire back and say they don't get to decide which client my cards should go to! But I honestly was just glad I got that far. But with how trash this Live client is turning out, it really sucks they could get away with this misleading crap. To be clear, not a single Arceus VStar UPC apparently had a code card. I wasn't the only one who got shafted on that end.

Apart from that Flash to burn your eyes when you get the price card, I also hate the creepy old-school avatars which look like come from Sims City original. Why don't they don't use the characters from the Scarlet/Violet or Sword/Shield ? The UI/UX is horrible. It has been 2 month from first trial launch, why they keep all the worst things?

The most frustrating part to me is that with all the sunk costs that have clearly gone into this project, they're unwilling to bring someone(s) like yourself onto the team (or at least as a consultant) that's informed and able to provide actually valuable, honest feedback. I imagine a common corporate scenario where they released the "beta", got trashed for it, and said "well, we already spent X money developing this so we're not gonna completely restructure it" even though that's exactly what it needed. They'd rather just keep the broken client in tact and watch it fail it looks like. Also if I'm gonna be completely honest, anyone still saying "it's still in beta" about anything related to modern games is an idiot. How many times do we have to see the same story unfold of a public beta with next to zero changes to the final release before people get the message. Betas haven't been testing grounds looking for actual feedback for probably over a decade now, they're just there to advertise. In the age of patches and updates, the real alphas and betas have become final releases where the masses are used as QA, and this isn't even limited to F2P anymore.

We gonna be playing on Tabletop Simulator in protest.

Soo, I have Epilepsy, and that Prize animation, that’s actually dangerous for some people. Pokémon, learn from “the Porygon episode.”

It’s very frustrating when it feels like I have better design ideas than professional developers, especially when it comes to something I’m so passionate about.

Well put buddy. I think you touched on all the major issues. I can't believe Pokémon has done this to their most loyal fanbase. They have been putting too much $ in their own pockets and have left a TON on the table the last few years. Their switch games have been meh, their communication has been meh, POGO has been Meh, Unite was meh, and everything about TCG play has been nothing but a money grab. It's absolutely ridiculous. Maybe these Alt Art cards cost too much to have drawn or something. 🤷‍♂️

Legitimately spat out my water when you switched to the serious gamer hat. Was a real ash ketchum moment.

Your comment about the flash animations triggering headaches is spot on. I have some light sensitivities and tried playing TCGL...came away with a massive migraine. I love playing TCGO, but if/when we are forced to migrate to this I will likely have to stop playing.

getting lugias isn’t good if the game isn’t good, but i CANT play PTCGO because NOTHING is given to me as a new player

Lugia VStar: Sliiiiide to the left. Sliiiiide to the right. Edit: the holo pattern on the radiant pokemon reminds me of the pattern on fake Yu-Gi-Oh cards I bought when I was a kid lol

this game is the ifunny watermark but if it was a tcg client

I regret migrating my account every single day. The devs took the wrong notes from Arena I think they saw people react positively to the fancy animations and copied the flash of it sometimes literally without the substance. God did I just compliment Wotc?

While I do like that the animations are speedy, as it decreases wait time between actions, it does eventually feel like sensory overload with how needlessly flashy and unnatural it all is. New players aren't going to know precisely what's occurring when constant card effects happen at its speed. There needs to be some kind of log for it or a means to neatly display exactly what effect is attempting to resolve in each instance without sloppily slapping cards in your face. Pokemon is also typically all about lighthearted fun. The visual and audio design of the game just doesn't feel like they want you to have fun with its bland interface, ugly avatars, and forgettable music.

Playing mobile 95% of the time and I felt that it was extremely off and I’m just a very casual player. You made sense of everything I was feeling. How do we get Pokémon to listen?

1- I love PTCGO. As a casual player i never felt the need for an upgrade. As a f2p player i always had a great experience and all the decks that i wanted to play. 2- One of the best things about PTCGO is that in its simplicity it captures very closely the tabletop experience. That is a plus in my book and it helps players transitions between mediums. With live they are betting to hard on the mobile experience and as a consequence we get a digital experience, far removed from the real feel of holding and manipulating a deck. 3- Like with the videogames, they are going with the "minimum investment for maximum profit" mentality. 4-They should hire experts on the field and work closely with the community for feedback and manage expectations.

Today after half year I first time installed the new tcg live and I was shocked how bad it is. Where are my old cards, decks? Where are the great themed decks which played so balanced??? Then I went to youtube to hear other opinions about it. And found your video!!! I have questions. Is there a way to play the old game with the old decks ?

I don’t wanna migrate, but no one plays the events

When you opened up your Lugia deck I was so confused at first thinking your deck WAS the list on the left. What’s even worse I PLAY tcgl. So I should have already known but it didn’t click that was the search until you said ! 😭

should I migrate or stay in the old client?

PTCGL needs actual Game Designers and especially a UX/UI Designer. Outside of that I think most of the issues are just bugs

Anyone who thinks Andrew is 'nitpicking' with his views must be easily please. Thank you for uploading this video Andrew, it's very sad and concerning to see Lives lack of progress visually and regarding the awful gameplay. I urge everyone to tweet this videos link to TPCi in droves.

What pisses me off about this game the most is how the algorithm can have you constantly get bad hands and make any tournament ready deck so inconsistent it's unplayable. I get there is a luck factor in every TCG but the way this game is programmed, the luck factor pushes this game beyond ridiculous limits where you can practically need a Victini just to get a good hand. I literally just had 10 losses IN A ROW just from me getting a garbage hand and my opponent always getting a god hand. I have never had this kind of issue on other TCG games and I have hit KOG on Duel Links many times and that damn TCG requires more luck than this one by far. Not to mention it feels like this game takes archetypes into consideration in its code. I swear to Arceus I will be one win from going up the ladder and I will get a bad matchup. I could understand this happening 2-5 times but 8+ times seems BEYOND coincidental. I hate to be sour grapes about the ladder system but they need to change this gain 20 loose 20. This can make it almost IMPOSSIBLE for people new to the game or with no money invested in codes to progress the ladder. (and for people like me with horrible luck apparently) It needs to be structured more like Duel Links where you win 3-5 to go up in rank and lose 2+ in a row to go down in rank so people can have a chance to progress and get the rewards. I've invested a good bit in this game. I have every major tournament deck built. I'll give it one more try just to give it the benefit of the doubt but if my luck doesn't improve I will be trashing it till they fix this shit.

I’d love to see your assessment of the mobile version as well. I think some of this design philosophy was secondary thinking for the computer client compared to the mobile client. But I haven’t been satisfied and just play with the cardboard I have 😢

The worst part about this is we aren't even comparing this to Master Duel which released at the same time as this was supposed to we are comparing this to ptcgo which already looked really out of date. The only thing they've done right is how much cheaper it is to play PTCGL but I have no faith in PTCGI since they don't have a financial incentive to fix this as they have announced they have no plan to add microtransactions. We have had so many new people get into or back into PTCG over the past 3 years I just find it strange how they make very little attempt to turn collectors into players.

I've been waiting for this video. Thank you for your honest opinions. As someone who has played games for my entire life and work in games myself, this is highly disappointing. Anyone with any UX experience would tell you that nothing here looks intuitive to a player.

In the Famous words of a game developer: A game that is released late is forever good, a game that is released unfinished is forever bad

I haven't finished the video yet (work duties xD) but one super annoying thing I experience is taking multi-prizes. I've been testing some Greninja VUnion taking down several 1-prizers. To my surprise, whenever a single prizer gets KO'd, you take the prize for that one, and then continue with the next single-prizer. So taking 5 single prizers with a single attack is just sad. You have to wait for 5 KO animations and prize animations before continuing. In PTCGO all single prizers gets KO'd at once, and you get to pick your prizes within the same interaction

Thank god for you. I have been losing my hair trying to make people understand that not only is the client really bad, but it is far less rewarding! You can earn way more packs on PTCGO! People are completely brainwashed by free Lugias and Celebrations dust, but that won't be around forever! 5 card packs and a brutal reward structure and all you can earn is 1 deck per expansion! For people like us that love playing variety it is just awful. But people are so brainwashed by Celebrations dust and migration dust and free Lugias that they don't see it. And they keep spreading propaganda that Live is way easier to make decks on. IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT and it especially won't be once Celebrations is inevitably gone! They need to GREATLY improve the rewards and like you said, that's the easy part. The client is an absolute disaster. I actually collect on PTCGO because the cards look so good, I can feel the texture to them. On Live they look like garbage chaff.

Pokemon fans will literally eat anything the PCI shits out. This game HAS to be good, more so than any main series game bc PTCGO is getting shut down for this. The most popular trading card game ever deserves better than Live.

It feels like at this point Pokemon has been around for 20+ years and any game they come out with is half ass and they don't care because it's Pokemon. And Pokemon prints money.

I'm a very casual and newbie player, me and my buddies like to play against eachother or vs IA to practice and test (like we did in PTCGO) does Live have any vs IA option? Or are we done for?

I'm primarily a F2P guy. At some point PTCGO only had cards from expanded format that I could unlock by climbing the ladder. I didn't want to play expanded, so I eagerly awaited Live only for it to turn out like this.

The term "hater" gets thrown around far too much lately. There's nothing wrong with fairly assessing something as not good when it's clearly not good. Glad you put together a clear video showing examples of some of the things that need to be addressed. Thanks as always Andrew. Keep on keepin on.

Your exactly right about it all. I’m six months new to playing and I could never, learn as I go, with TCG Live. It would blow my thoughts and visual observations to smithereens, and drive me crazy. It was hard enough to learn with TCGO, but I could play single prize decks and grow and learn others decks and have success and sublime visual satisfaction. TCG Live is a disaster. Even the GI Joe avatars are ugly. Not only will long time gamers drop out from headaches, newbies will most likely reject it altogether. 😢

I am at extreme discomfort with the player characters as well, it genuinely shocks me that Unite, something a lot less impactful on the franchise has amazing customization and art style for the player characters, while the TCG, one of the most profitable parts of the franchise since its inception, has play-dough avatars that hit that uncanny valley for me.

Personally, I can definitely understand the complaints. The problem I have with the old client is the sheer amounts of grinding and code buying, that, in my experience, I had to do, in order to build the most utterly basic of budget decks. And the fact that the trade system was so expensive also really put me off. And personally, I would rather deal with the arguably awful programming and animations that I have to tolerate in the new client than play in the crappy economy provided by the old client. Frankly, I feel that TPCi has just been absolutely taking a dump on these games, and at this rate, I would rather waste money on IRL cards than deal with this utter BS. Everything about both of them just kind of sucks man.

I was watching in my dark room when you were taking prizes on live and I had to literally pause the video and recover from it for a second.

A cool feature I always enjoyed was actually on the PS1 game Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories, whenever you played effectively a stadium card the whole game board changed into that terrain. That game came out in December 1999, 23 years ago, and here pokemon are with a weird grey hexagon patio in the middle. Seeing the other TCG online games in your latest VOD triggered a memory of having a grassy background.

As bad as it looks visually.. the things that really bug me are how the player has to interact with the game such as: When you have to select a card from your deck, the deck counter goes down to 0 making it look like you're about to deck out.. just because technically you're holding your deck?! Having to still choose your prize cards after winning the game?! Not only that but also having to press "Select" after choosing prize cards. You still have to press "Done" during set-up phase even when there's NOTHING else you can possibly do. For example, you have 1 Basic Pokémon in your hand so you put it as your active. Why do I have to press done.. I know it sounds nitpicky but it's not needed at all. Modified damage (Powerful Energy etc) shows the total damage that will be dealt which I like.. but only works on your active AND only when it's your turn.. and for some reason doesn't show modified damage on the opponent's cards wether it's active or benched. I hate that you have to create a deck to see what's in your collection. There's STILL no keybinds. At least give us an option to do this. Imagine if you could press ESC or SHIFT to go back, Space-bar to end turn, W,S,A,D or arrow keys to scroll through cards and menus etc. Honestly, my favourite thing so far (during a game) in PTCG Live is how fast it draws cards into each player's hands.

The worst thing about it is how I haven’t found a reliable way to quit the game. Instead it just takes you back to the language select and you have to ctrl+alt+tab instead

I completely agree with what you’re saying for the computer client. The mobile client for live, in my opinion, feels better. It feels like live was made for mobile first and PC second. My biggest plus for live is that I don’t have to spend $400-$500 PER SET to get all the cards I need to make decks. The economy in PTCGO is stupid. Love having the ability to craft cards is better for me monetarily. That’s also more inviting to new players because a new player won’t need to miss rent just to get a fun playable deck. Why would someone want to play lunatone or Regis constantly just because they are cheap to construct. Again, I agree with the graphics but I’m tired of spending a crap ton of money just to be able to continue to play. I love your content Andrew and I think you’re awesome

Also, when you use a card that should allow you to search through your entire deck, like quick ball. It only allows you to see your basic pokemon in the deck. You can’t see if any of your other cards may be purse cards etc.

The worst thing for me is the timer on ptcgl. The 15s timer starts immediately so I don't have chance to look through the rest of my deck or double check what's in my hand.

Being able to get cards with out paying real dollars I.E. codes is a huge plus for me. I dont play ptcgo because i cant afford to have an irl deck and an online deck. I actually play this client. P.s. watching you critique this was the most entertaining thing ive watched in awhile. Good video my dude. P.p.s because i get farther in the video. The aqua blue flash bang comment is gold 🤣🤣🤣

I'm not migrating until I have no choice.

Had a weird glitch on ptcgl. My opponent used magical echo (altaria) to move 260 damage onto my active. It did it 10 damage at a time and then timed me out (during their attack), skipping my next turn! Had to laugh but that's not OK 😅

the giant, souless white space at the victory screen kills me 😬 Yikes !

The thing is that the free cards and crafting system don’t even help you make decks. You get so few credits compared to how much you need to craft a deck that you’re still gonna need to buy a bunch of code cards. So it’s not even F2P friendly; it just makes the experience worse in just about every aspect for no real benefit.

I never thought in my life I would say this, but... even Konami knows how to make a good card simulator

There's no way in the client to exit the program?? Even on the log in screen the only way to close Pokemon TCG Live is by Alt+ F4ing or through Task Manager. Not sure why that's a thing.

The only thing I'm really missing in online, is a way to look at cards that have been played on the thing to the side that tracks what moves has just been made. I'll be honest, I don't know what every card does and there are a few times I'm not sure what just happened. Hearthstone does this really well. Aside from that I just think the client needs a slight visual update to catch up to modern standards. The janky avatars probably need to go, they look very awkward and I don't care much for the collectible outfits... Just give me small icons of my favorite pokemon/anime characters instead.

Thank you for being so clear and detailed in this video. Your reasons are so valid

It looks really gross overall. As someone who was never super into TCGs but played over a decade ago, only becoming interested again every once and awhile most recently over the last couple weeks or so, I can't help but think this specific thing I see no one else thinking and therefore no ine seems to have an answer: *why does this exist? What was wrong with PTCGO that cannot be fixed without making a new game?*

On top of everything the ladder is rigged in one opponents favor. It definitely scans each deck and picks one to draw well and one not. Or it picks decks that tech things you will never see irl, just to stop you from ranking up. Glitches galore! Cards not working as intended, Gardevoir, Mewtwo Vstar, Klara, Miriam, two pokemon in the active at once, floating cards, unable to retreat

oh man when u put the zeraoras side by side.. thats really rough

Pokemon definitely takes their fan dedication for granted.

I just don't see why they didn't port TCG online to be available on every device instead of practically making a whole new version of the game. I personally think the mobile version is okay but I miss the trading feature as well.

some bugs i've noticed, if v guard energy is played at all your V will do 30 less damage for the rest of the game whether or not that energy is still in play, if you use chesnaught v and blissey v attacks you they will take the 30 damage from the ability and they will take an extra 30 damage for each energy they attach from their discard pile even if you only have 1 chesnaught v in play. Also not being able to view any cards attached to your active pokemon is super annoying.

I’ve been enjoying live a lot, more than online and it’s because I can actually GET TO PLAY THE GAME. I really like the general visual aspects of online and do agree that it’s superior to live in many aspects. But online it’s unplayable for new, returning or non hardcore players. I used to play back on the tag team era (where I was only able to build ONE deck) and had to stop because I couldn’t keep buying codes for the new expansion. Every time I tried to come back it was impossible because I couldn’t spend $200 every 3 months when a new expansion came out to get the boosters to trade for relevant stuff. When the Regis came out (which is a budget deck), it took me about 3 weeks of grinding and trading just to build a deck (as well as about $40 on codes). When the live beta was released, I only had to play a few games and I already had enough relevant cards to play Arceus decks. So yeah I’m willing to play a clunky game instead of not playing a visually superior one

I have over 25,000 game played on PTCGO and many decks. I have no plans on migrating over to Live as it is a terrible platform. I agree with Tricky Gym, they blew it with Live and many are going to leave. When they close down the old platform I will move over to Pokemon Go.

Which is more disappointing: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet or Pokémon TCG Live?

Still have not been able to log into the game or download the mac version

My main issue is the bright blue fucking screen that comes up when you take prize cards. I can only play for so long before my headaches ramp up from the flashing light.

I honestly quit playing since Live came out because it kind of ruined the experience for me :(

PTCGO is just better

So me and my friends play a lot of digital card games. We never really got into irl tcgs. We’ve hopped and got into a few card games. I’m the only one who got into Pokémon TCGO because I like the game and collecting the digital cards. However, with the aim to make Pokémon more of a digital card game with live, I was hoping Live would be an opportunity to introduce them into it. However in its current state they would probably compare it to the current games we play, like legends of Runeterra and Snap. So in its current state I’m not even considering showing it to them.

Hi tricky G🎉, you are right about everything. But there are also additional things that bother me that I would like to mention. 1. Why can I only use a maximum of 400 code cards from a set if I pay for them?! 2. I would like to be able to communicate reasonably properly again. The animation of the faces does not express what I feel and I would like to be able to say "you have a god deck" etc. maybe you could add more phrases there because the communication was not so good with ptcgo either. 3. Why can't the center field adapt to the stadium cards. that would be so cool and also something new. now would be the chance. it would also be great to include play mats to personalize your setup even more. 4. I would like to be able to play cards like boss and Switch just like in ptcgo... that makes me sad and it's totally pointless to reprogram something that good. if the english is not so good, please excuse me. Greetings from Germany, Berlin❤

Not only that, it gets really dizzy watching the short videos of Live that you put there. I feel, that the way it is, I won't be able to watch any of the videos you make with the new one if it doesn't change. Animations and card colors need to be fixed and flashes removed for the health of some people.

Idk if it's just the state of standard right now, or the fact they gave out free Lugia's to literally everyone who can win a single match, but I hate the new game. Any game I come to, no matter what deck or mode I'm playing, I'm facing Lugia. It's only Lugia. The only deck that has any sort of chance is Lugia. After playing for hours and hours on end, I've played only 3 matches that weren't a Lugia match up. And the other matches lasted 2 seconds because of course it did. It just doesn't feel fun anymore, and I can guess 95% of the decks I'm playing. This just isn't enjoyable.

And this is what I have to work with... I'll work with it, but this just isn't great. Yet, what other option do I have when I want to play PTCG conveniently?

The cards are very hard to read as well. I hooked my laptop up to my tv and I still have to get close to the TV to read them

Imagine if ptcgo just added a crafting system and gave everyone free Lugia. There'd be no reason to ever speak of live again

Everything you’ve said is absolutely correct. I’ve sank years and years and a lot of my money into PTCGO. I was so sad that when I migrated to Live, and when I came to the understanding that I couldn’t migrate back… it left a sour taste in my mouth. Like why the hell would they release this game if it had several bugs, several downgrades in terms of variety of game modes & card collection or deck building aesthetics. Like you said in the video… it should feel like painting a canvas when building the deck. All of this could cause harm to the player base if not updated, altered or fixed. And on top of all of this, they put in odd art styles for holographic animations, lower quality card images & jarring animations. Now that PTCGO is going to be closing forever, I believe in March 2023, I’m very concerned for the well-being of the community and Pokémon Trading Card Game as a video game. A multi billion dollar company should (with relative ease) be able to compete, or better yet, dominate the Online Card Game market in pretty much every category. Runeterra’s animations are sick and flow beautifully. Hearthstone’s board aesthetics are top notch, as well as the personality behind every card they release. Marvel Snap has great animations and is very play for free friendly. I’ll be sad and devastated if PTCGL doesn’t start making significant changes to the game before March 2023. I LOVE POKÉMON. And I love playing the card game; I’ve played this game for yearsss. And I love collecting all the new or old cards, competitive or simply because they look cool or beautiful. And I want to sink another decade into this great game as a video game…. But only if PTCGL gives the community the love and respect we deserve. Please take our loving instructive criticism and make the best damn card game anyone's ever seen before. Thank you for your upload, and I hope our shared passion of this game and our shared instructive criticism gets seen and handled. We want to see this game succeed and flourish… not go down in flames..

Tbh I feel like they could have refreshed ptcgo, maybe new ui, and it would have been way better.. It has always been there, we've been collecting codecards in packs for years even the name is better. The "Pokemon trading card game online" doesn't get more official or to the point than that. Finally had to switch over to live, so sad..

It's even worse now at launch, today every action was taking 10+ seconds to even register, then when I was two attacks away from a win, my attacker moved to the right and stayed there for 20 minutes while I went to eat my dinner, came back still stuck, ten minutes later the game told me I had conceded. Shout out to my opponent for playing on with zero chance of winning fairly instead of just resigning. I tried to go back to play PTCGO and was told my account had been migrated to live and that was that. Guess I'm not allowed to play any more

Yeah I agree ptcgl just feels like a downgrade

I'm really stoked you finally made a video addressing the flaws of the new client. I hope the pokemon company hear you, hear us, and make a product really up with the standards and expectations of a franchise who is beloved by every one of us. I'm hoping we can save the client exposing its flaws and they work on it. We need you internet! Save ptcgl as you save sonic! lol

It feels like they saw MTG Arena and tried to copy the UI for it. The main difference is MTG Arena's UI is generally good, specially the deck builder. It has the same format, but instead of small card thumbnails, the deck builder has an easy to read list at the side, and you can change the zoom level of your card library. Then if you click deck details, it goes to a screen that gives a better rundown of your deck. There's also an option to change the deck builder UI to be closer to what MTGO and PTCGO use if that is what a player prefers. The search function is quite advanced as well, if you know how to use tags and shorthand filters you can easily pinpoint a card you need wit ha few lines of text.

The worst is the bugs : no valid cards and frozen cards at every game is making the game unplayable

I should NOT have migrated... Sure I can finally get any card I want but... I miss how smooth ptcgo was

And I thought I was the only guy getting headaches after an hour or two playing the game. I strongly agree with you points Andrew, it feels bad to have a downgraded version of the current game.

Im trying to get the genesects first then migrate later

Have to scroll to see what cards are attached to your opponents pokemon too

This version has a ton of potential.