Poland & Lithuania: A Centuries-Old Love-Hate Relationship

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Lithuania Explained

Lithuania Explained

Жыл бұрын

After very briefly examining the relationship between Lithuania and Latvia, it only seemed appropriate to move on to our neighbour to the southwest: The country of Poland. The relationship between Lithuania and Poland is an interesting one. Sadly, it’s not one that is as brotherly as with Latvia. But when you look at the history of the two countries, things make a little more sense.
So, let’s unpack some of it in today’s video!
CORRECTIONS/CLARIFICATIONS:
1. Sejny is not majority Lithuanian; but apparently their numbers are undercounted/underrepresented. Inaccurate information was received on this topic.
2. Jadwiga is referred to in this video as a queen since she was the female ruler - as many other sources also state. However, others refer to her as a female king in the sense that she was the highest ruler.
Sources:
media.efhr.eu/2019/05/22/simo...
www.dw.com/en/lithuania-put-t...
www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english...
www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english...
www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english...
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@voyageur8208
@voyageur8208 Жыл бұрын
I am from Poland and never in my life I heard that somebody is talking badly about people of Lithuania. I think we have a big respect for Lithuanians and an element of love because together in the past we were amazing. Moreover, I dont support any kind of war but in my opinion Lithuania should have whole Kaliningrad. I see Lithuanians and Ukrainians and Slovaks and Czechs as brothers. And maybe Hungarian people but recently I am affraid of their relationship with Russia....
@thecyberdork776
@thecyberdork776 Жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian i can assure you that not all of us are pro Russian on the contrary. do not confuse the Hungarian people with our corrupt leadership, glory to the Ukrainian people.
@kerryalbany3922
@kerryalbany3922 Жыл бұрын
@@thecyberdork776 ❤
@kerryalbany3922
@kerryalbany3922 Жыл бұрын
Just want to say, I love Poland and the Polish people, much love from the UK ❤
@voyageur8208
@voyageur8208 Жыл бұрын
​@@thecyberdork776 In Polish society the love for Hungarian nation was extremly very visible very often since forever. It was something amaizing. When I was young kid, I was many times in Hungary for holidays. Your swimmingpools are the best. And I rremember well how Hungarians were treating Polish People. I remember one old man sitting somewhere in the center of Miskolc and when he heard that we are Polish he started to showing love to Poland. For Polish people history is the most important thing, to not let it happend again. We were destroyed, betrayed and killed. (I know what tragedy happened to Hungary because of Treaty of Trianon). Im sure the love of Polish people to Hungarian people will not be destroyed. But if Poland will see any kind of love, closer friendship with Russia it will be like a national knife stuck in the back. We will love you anyway, but this love will be transformed into wounded one. Everybody has right to have its own policy, diplomacy. Moreover I know how depended Hungary is if we are talking about energetic resources. But still Russians are murdering people. Still 4 milion of Ukrainian mothers and children had to escape to Poland. What is interesting, the right-wing Polish government is now trying to talk little about Hungary, very a little, but anyway the right wing people are conscious. két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát
@justask8894
@justask8894 Жыл бұрын
As Lithuanian I see Poland as brothers and allies. What heapened bad in the past between us is forgotten. I am proud that we had Commonwealth.
@tautvydasjuska6769
@tautvydasjuska6769 Жыл бұрын
In my eyes i see Poles as good people.Greetings from Lithuania🇱🇹🤝🏻🇵🇱🇺🇦
@voyageur8208
@voyageur8208 Жыл бұрын
I am from Poland and whole my life I had Lithuania in my heart. Like a family. And I would literaly cry if Russia do something to hurt you. Moreover, I would support truly and with all my heart helping you if Russia invaded you. And if you had to escape your own country I would open my house for you. From mine Polish perspective, for Poland family is Lithuania, Ukraine, Slovakia, Czech, (but I dont like their relationships with Germany), and Hungary ( but recently I am very affraid of their relationship with Russia, I AM SHOCKED), UK and USA.
@TheEmpress185
@TheEmpress185 Жыл бұрын
And vice versa 🙂
@DVladas
@DVladas Жыл бұрын
…glöm inte Lettland och Sverige 🇱🇻🇸🇪
@theguywhoasked3096
@theguywhoasked3096 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Russia
@boleslavsavdax282
@boleslavsavdax282 Жыл бұрын
@@theguywhoasked3096 Matushka Rassija. Pozdrowienia dla braci Rosjan! 🇷🇺🇵🇱
@nemmens
@nemmens Жыл бұрын
I'm Polish and I never thought bad about Lithuanians. I always dreamed to visit Vilnius, more than countries like Egypt or Spain. I don't know any Pole, who tells rude things about Lithuania..
@donatas8007
@donatas8007 Жыл бұрын
aciu🙂👍❤
@stasiek1859
@stasiek1859 Жыл бұрын
I was studying with lituanian people for 4 years and this is the most bad time in my life. They hate poles and always try to cheat or offend you. I met also good lituanian people but they are minority.
@krowaswieta7944
@krowaswieta7944 Жыл бұрын
Vilnius is deffo worth visiting. Its a really cool city. Well, its also worth to note that Vilnus (or Wilno if you like) was one of the most important cities for Poland/commonwealth throughout its history. As for actual Lithuanian people - they dont seem any different than Poles if you ask me xd... I mean surely there are Lithuanians who dont like Poles but ffs, there are also plenty of Poles who hate like Ukrainians, Germans, Russians etc. These resentiments
@zhangzy123
@zhangzy123 Жыл бұрын
​@@stasiek1859 Jesteś botem ?. Odpowiedz.
@stasiek1859
@stasiek1859 Жыл бұрын
@@zhangzy123 Mariusz, jak się czujesz? Odpowiedz.
@pawekowal233
@pawekowal233 Жыл бұрын
I am from Poland. And no one of my acquaintances has ever spoken badly about Lithuanians.
@craftah
@craftah Жыл бұрын
nobody talks about lithuania in poland lol
@SzefSztabuGeneralnegoPLAA
@SzefSztabuGeneralnegoPLAA Жыл бұрын
@@craftah We talk a lot about Lithuania, mostly in schools where we talk about our past when we were united with Lithuania
@user-xz4ck8zs2u
@user-xz4ck8zs2u Жыл бұрын
@@craftah bro I've seen u under Tense videos
@kundeleczek1
@kundeleczek1 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes We do. "Litwo, ojczyzno moja...
@craftah
@craftah Жыл бұрын
@@user-xz4ck8zs2u lol we r best trols eu
@uzstiklo7141
@uzstiklo7141 Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian, I have nothing but respect for our Polish neighbours. The amount of help you're providing the Ukrainians with is incredible. Good job! Greetings from Lithuania
@piotrsie5465
@piotrsie5465 Жыл бұрын
You can count on as if orcs will try to attack you. We thought together against Teutonic knights and we kicked their asses together. Together we strong
@arunassl876
@arunassl876 Жыл бұрын
@@piotrsie5465 A funny side line is that the Teutonic knight were invited by Polish from the very start. No offence, just an interesting fact.
@piotrsie5465
@piotrsie5465 Жыл бұрын
@Arūnas Sl But not to stay for ever and plunder and attacking others. You right that, they were invited at first.
@paulkosoff8851
@paulkosoff8851 10 ай бұрын
@@arunassl876 in fact it was not exactly "the Polish", but only a local prince of Mazovia, who invited Teutonic knights - and they were supposed to fight against pagan Prussians, who pestered him, not pagan Lithuanians... ;)
@redatamo6178
@redatamo6178 Жыл бұрын
I`m Lithuanian and I love Poles🤍❤ Latvians are our ethnical brothers (even twin brothers) and poles are historical brothers.
@ukaszwalczak1154
@ukaszwalczak1154 Жыл бұрын
@Adam Nieniewski The Baltic people are not slavs. Even if i do count them as Eastern European cuz they are located in the Eastern part of Europe, they're not slavs-
@plrc4593
@plrc4593 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Poland
@sqn8642
@sqn8642 Жыл бұрын
@@ukaszwalczak1154 slavs is not etnic group but languange
@TenTenTamten
@TenTenTamten Жыл бұрын
I've been to Kaunas this may, and lots of people spoke some polish while learning about my nationality (bolt driver, lady selling tickets, and so on), which was a positive surprise for me. I've learned some lithuanian just to get by, but usually people were very supportive when they've seen me struggling with the language 🙂 Aš norėčiau važiuoti į Vilnių kitais metais, tai aš mokiausi lietuvių kalba. Sveiki iš Suvalkai!
@josipag2185
@josipag2185 Жыл бұрын
​@@ukaszwalczak1154 Dude, there is no slavic ethnic country, like there is no germanic ethnic country, you have so many mixtures, even in Germany, East Germany is half russian still if you want to be some purist. It is just a linguistic group. Like latin. Also, there is no Baltic people in ethnic sense of yours as today ethnicity is mostly used as equal to nation, but ofc it could be well, geographic term.
@polishnorwegianandspanish9145
@polishnorwegianandspanish9145 Жыл бұрын
I am Polish so here is Polish perspective: I don’t know many people from Lithuania but the ones I met were one of the nicest and kindest people you can imagine. Food in Lithuania is delicious and country is beautiful. I don’t know anyone in Poland who would say something else than positive things about Lithuania or any Baltic Country so to speak. We love them
@MurdokEXTRA
@MurdokEXTRA Жыл бұрын
Podobno tarcia są w dużej mierze w samym Wilnie, gdzie polska mniejszość to jakieś 16% w mieście i 20% w całym obwodzie. Także mam wrażenie, że nawet jeśli szukać Polaków o złej opinii na temat Litwinów, to prędzej na Litwie niż w Polsce.
@Misiathecatgirl
@Misiathecatgirl Жыл бұрын
@@MurdokEXTRA Moja rodzina mieszka w Wilnie i żadnych tarć między Polakami a Litwinami nie ma, ja tez milion razy byłam w Wilnie i nikomu nie przeszkadzało ze jestem z Polski….
@MurdokEXTRA
@MurdokEXTRA Жыл бұрын
@@Misiathecatgirl To nie wiem. Mówię tylko, co przeczytałem jak próbowałem się rozeznać w temacie.
@tomaszgarbino2774
@tomaszgarbino2774 Жыл бұрын
@@MurdokEXTRA Na kanale "Fifty na Pol" jest film o Polakach z Wilna, gdzie sami zainteresowani się wypowiadają na ten temat.
@Arturas002
@Arturas002 Жыл бұрын
I'm Lithuanian. I like Poland and its people. We like same food, we like same drinks, we have similar tastes, values, religion and outlook on life in general sense. In fact I can find more things in common with a regular Pole when compared to a Ukrainian. I even feel safer knowing we have such neighbor next to us. Long live Poland!
@aven7gg213
@aven7gg213 Жыл бұрын
we have so much in common my Nothern friend that we should start call it commonwelth again
@TenTenTamten
@TenTenTamten Жыл бұрын
Polish myself, I'm living not so far from Lithuanian border, and I've been to Kaunas this may. Our cuisine is almost identical (cepelinai, potato pie and potato sausage, meat and rice wrapped in cabbage leaf), so I've felt like at home. Also, people were really happy to hear that I've learned some lithuanian before going there, even though I still had to use english sometimes. It was a great trip and I hope to visit Vilnius in the next year 🙂 Sveiki iš Suvalkai, ir ačiū už grupė Antis! Aš norėčiau mokiausi lietuvių kalba, tai atsiprašau už mane klaidų 🙂
@zlatkus55
@zlatkus55 Жыл бұрын
@@aven7gg213 so you could again steal our capital city?
@Wiktorino1984
@Wiktorino1984 Жыл бұрын
Relations where little destroyed when Poland back after 1 world war and they national leaders decides back old kingdom size in all cost even that cost where salty to neighbours. But we all must understand that was times after 1 world war and people where diffrent. Still we got difficulties with Balerus this country is one big joke.
@pawemichalak6275
@pawemichalak6275 Жыл бұрын
Why dont we resurrect Commonwealth ? I mean that was some idea to have. Big nation with lots of possible influence, we would just need Kaliningrad and its all good baby. I can fight for that.
@LukasBorusevicius
@LukasBorusevicius Жыл бұрын
Lithuanian here. I think that both nations, Lithuanians and Poles, are taught differently about our common history schools, which is a common phenomenon in the world. A distinction must be made between PLC and later times. The biggest pain for Lithuanians was the Polish-Lithuanian war in 1919, which caused great damage to the relations between the two nations. Big mistakes were made on both sides, the consequences of which, historically, are somewhat felt today. As some Lithuanians wrote here there are some pro-Russian party in Lithuania who presents themselves as representatives of the Polish minority in Lithuania, but it should be seen only as Russia's efforts to prevent the Lithuanian and Polish peoples from coming closer to each other. Nevertheless, I am happy that politicians from both countries have started to strengthen the relationship between the two nations. I think the big historical mistake was the separation and war between the two nations. Personally, I have nothing against the Poles. On the contrary, as many Poles as I have met, we all got along very well and were proud of our great common past. There is no disrespect or hatred between us, only friendship. I respect Poland, and its people and I would like the relations between the two nations to be closer, forgetting the historical grievances and creating a strong alliance between the two countries. 🇱🇹 ❤🇵🇱
@mariuszlech9173
@mariuszlech9173 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, it is the responsibility of Lithuania and in its interest that the city of Poland in Lithuania should have such a status that no Russian agent would win her over for his cause. As a Pole, I am not afraid of the Polishness of my compatriots in Lithuania. But I believe that Lithuanians should care for their Polishness as much as Poles. Because in perspective you still have to choose "" Russian brothers. "Greetings from Polska and all the best from brothers from Poland.
@rebuzz6866
@rebuzz6866 Жыл бұрын
Political alliance of the Polish minority with Russian minority is the effect of prosecution of that minorities in Lithuania. It will be very difficult to break off that alliance after 31 year of violent discrimination and very harsh treatment. Base on experience and the most recent history, it would be very stupid on the side of the Polish minority to exit out of that alliance.
@plincz9279
@plincz9279 Жыл бұрын
Agree, brother.
@rytisliaucys3444
@rytisliaucys3444 Жыл бұрын
@@rebuzz6866 Mate, you literally have no idea what you are talking about. These people are not Polish. The true Polish people in Vilnius region do not align themselves with these people. Please look up "Waldemar Tomaszewski" and "Zbignew Jedinskij". They run this so called "Election Alliance of Poles and Russians", but in reality are nothing else than Russian agents. These two people literally speak Russian, wear the Koloradka (the black-yellow stripes that symbolise Russian agression in Ukraine), and Jedinskij has openly spoken out in support of Putin for his war in Ukraine. These people DO NOT SPEAK POLISH (they speak a sad mix of Russian, Belarussian and Lithuanian and consider it "Polish"), watch Russian TV programmes and support Putin. They literally have nothing to do with Poland. This party has a criminal investigation launched against it in Warsaw because Poland donated money to them to encourage Polish culture. Guess what they did with that money? Oh yes: wasted it and laundered it :D. It's sad that it seems Jedinski's facebook was blocked for hate speech so you can see for yourself just how "Polish" these clowns are. The true Polish people in Vilnius actually hold high seats in the Lithuanian government and are in good relations with the people. This is why your own government ignores this party: they have learned themselves that they are a joke. Have you been to Šalčininkai/Solecznyky? The most Polish city in Lithuania? The entire region has signs in both languages, and has a huge ass "Welcome to Šalčininkai" sign in Polish. Polish people can use Polish letters in their passports and there are shitloads of Polish schools: what discrimination are you talking about? It's nothing but Kremlin's attempts to distance Lithuanians and Poles. It's a load of bullshit.
@rebuzz6866
@rebuzz6866 Жыл бұрын
@@rytisliaucys3444 Because PL government was ignoring Polish minorities and for over 25 years, did nothing to help them out in dealings with Lithuanian governments, Polish and Russian alliance was created. Did you already forget, special units of Lutheran nationalist going around and taking down any signs in Polish? Did you forget about issuing heavy fines for Polish language in Public? Did you forget the reprivatization scams? Did you forget closing of Polish schools? Did you forget abut educational reforms? Did you forget about redesigning of election regions that way, so Poles won't hole majority votes? What PL government wasn't able to achieve in 25 years, the alliance did in a fraction of the time. This indicates that it would be stupid for Poles or Russians to dissolved that alliance. BTW, stripping Polish minority from the right to theirs own names is not over yet. Issue was referred to the Constitutional Court of Lithuania because: "Polish spelling of names is huge damage to the statehood and territorial integrity of Lithuania". Haw oppressive can you get??? Tomaszwevski and Jedzinski are not Polish, LMAO.
@damian4926
@damian4926 Жыл бұрын
Love-hate is probably only how lithuanians feel, Poles mosty like lithuania and dont really have anything against it.
@uzstiklo7141
@uzstiklo7141 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't know anybody who hates the Polish. We actually like you:))) Hugs from Lithuania
@NimrodElTzane
@NimrodElTzane Жыл бұрын
Yes i thing the same, it goes so far that i was suprised that some Lithuanian doesn't share my full on positive felings towards us poles (i was 16-17 at that time). Then some time i dug why and i got all the drama around Vilnus and tensions and tragedies aroud thous areas) Big love to Lithuanians lets keep together :)
@damian4926
@damian4926 Жыл бұрын
@Vaidas K Still, Lithuania arguments are kinda one-sided and bit unfair. Lithuanians tend to be angry about Lithuanian elite using Polish language in past but nobody forced them to do that, they wanted to use Polish language. Today nobody is forcing us to use English language, yet we all use it. Following that logic in 400 years some Lithuanians will be angry that Lithuanians today, especially the elite speaks English.
@kaunaszalgiris7670
@kaunaszalgiris7670 Жыл бұрын
@@damian4926 First of all, I love Poland and Poland is our neighbours, allies and great country in general. But I'll add some points of Lithuanian perspective, just as overall context in order to explain perspectives in general. So here it goes: With totally accepting and appreciating Polish culture, it certainly lead to leaking of Lithuanian culture, like if Polish as being lingua franca of Lithuanian nobility, basically any kind of accomplishments are being credited to Poles, like even first President of Poland was Lithuanian nobleman while his brother was signaturer of Lithuanian independence, they even were samagotians (zmudz), which is even more farther than being nobleman from Vilnius (Wilno), what automatically was being seen as Polish. And as it's always emphasized that Vilnius was Polish just by language criteria what as I mentioned before Polish was lingua franca, leaves almost no nobility to Lithuania. Polonization. Population wise, there are much more Polish than Lithuanians and as Polish being lingua franca there was a possibility just to loose Lithuanian identity as only villagers used Lithuanian language as their primary one. It's not even Poland's fault, but areas around North East Poland have ethnical Lithuanian land which by mixing through the centuries eventually became Poland. One of ethnical regions of Lithuania is called Suvalkija because of Suwalki while you know it is Poland now. Lastly, Poland has stolen Lithuanian capital during interwar period and many Polish colonists were brought to that region and somehow during Soviet Union people on those areas were never in favour of Lithuania as country, many of those people spoke Russian/their own version of Polish, but not really Lithuanian language, which was kind of similar case as having Russians in Estonia who were not fans of Estonian leaving USSR. These are just some points just to explain why sometimes it created some misunderstandings between our nations, we truly love Poland as our allies
@damian4926
@damian4926 Жыл бұрын
@Vaidas K But you can't blame whole country because some groups say something. You should base you opinion on official Polish state relation to Lithuania rather than what random people say. I always had impression that Lithuanians dislike Poland because Lithuania elite used Polish language in past, but remember that the king and dynasty was Lithuanian. Also if Poland would not unite with Lithuania, most likely Teutonic knights would make a deal with Moscow and attack Lithuania. Lithuania would have to fight both of them and would probably lose, and Teutonic Knights would take control over Lithuania and eradicate all Lithuanians like they destroyed the original Prussians. Lithuanians and Lithuanian language would stop existing, same scenario if Moscow would take over Lithuania. PLC saved Lithuania from that fate despite ups and downs and that Polish language was more common. Sometimes I think that Lithuanians don't appreciate that.
@papughh
@papughh Жыл бұрын
As a Polish person I never had bad thoughts about Lithuania and never met any Polish person with bad opinion about this country. We have big respect for Lithuania and Lithuanians in general and many Poles even love Lithuania! I am one of such people myself and Lithuania is honestly one of my favorite countries, Regards! :)
@nesbistrampol
@nesbistrampol Жыл бұрын
Its more of a historical dispute, especially with the polish leaders and how they "looked down" on us and on our culture up to the interwar period, where they invaded lithuania and its major cities, which we never got back. some of the cities were majority pole, but poles have always been a part of lithuania, and we never saw them as outsiders, its the leaders who did.
@papughh
@papughh Жыл бұрын
@@nesbistrampol Yea, true.
@NedasSiauciunas
@NedasSiauciunas Жыл бұрын
@Adam Nieniewski did you miss history lessons or something?
@Kancleriss
@Kancleriss Жыл бұрын
Dziękuję :)
@papughh
@papughh Жыл бұрын
@@Kancleriss Nie ma problemu!
@lazeppelini123
@lazeppelini123 Жыл бұрын
Love Poland. Greetings from Lithuania ✌️✌️✌️
@voyageur8208
@voyageur8208 Жыл бұрын
I am from Poland and whole my life I had Lithuania in my heart. Like a family. And I would literaly cry if Russia do something to hurt you. Moreover, I would support truly and with all my heart helping you if Russia invaded you. And if you had to escape your own country I would open my house for you. From mine Polish perspective, for Poland family is Lithuania, Ukraine, Slovakia, Czech, (but I dont like their relationships with Germany), and Hungary ( but recently I am very affraid of their relationship with Russia, I AM SHOCKED), UK and USA.
@lazeppelini123
@lazeppelini123 Жыл бұрын
@@voyageur8208 God save us all and don't let this happen.... Love you, guys, all the best for us all 🤝🤝🤝♥️♥️♥️
@TenTenTamten
@TenTenTamten Жыл бұрын
Ačiū labai iš Suvalkai 🙂 Man labai patinka jūsų kalba!
@Adriaugu
@Adriaugu Жыл бұрын
I am a Pole in Lithuania, and I have nothing against Lithuanians
@aesteticautism9211
@aesteticautism9211 Жыл бұрын
Lenkas supistas
@beandrag9019
@beandrag9019 Жыл бұрын
💖
@twojstarypijany3182
@twojstarypijany3182 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Pole in Poland, and... I too have nothing against Lithuanians.
@rafalszachnowicz2831
@rafalszachnowicz2831 Жыл бұрын
And that's the way to go - I also have nothing against Lithuanian. I met few. I'm in good relationship with them.
@craftah
@craftah Жыл бұрын
@@rafalszachnowicz2831 who cares about nationalities
@wuhamster7882
@wuhamster7882 Жыл бұрын
Ukrainian here. I've been to both your countries. Loved both. People are great in both. Keep up as good friends and neighbours! And thanks for not leaving us behind in hard times! Hope to visit both of you soon as a guest and as a friend, not a refugee.
@JH-pv6rd
@JH-pv6rd Жыл бұрын
Love to Ukraine from Lithuania ❤️
@procurepro
@procurepro 2 ай бұрын
Keep up our brave Ukrainian friends. Greetings from Poland.
@Comrade_Marius
@Comrade_Marius Жыл бұрын
From what I see, most Poles and Lithuanians have nothing against each other. Most poles I meet are very friendly and respectful to Lithuanians and admire our shared history. The worst I find are usually super nationalist online keyboard warriors that still argue and fight over rightful ownership of Vilnius.
@mariuszlech9173
@mariuszlech9173 Жыл бұрын
Vilnius has never been Polish. It was just very polonized. But among the fairy tales, stories about "Polonization" should be put in. The cultures have simply mixed up and the Polish language has been and will be the leading language in the culture of Central Europe. There have been attempts to replace it with Russian, but who can like and respect this language and nation?
@lucjuszke
@lucjuszke Жыл бұрын
@Squilex777 ok but who cares?
@rebuzz6866
@rebuzz6866 Жыл бұрын
Everybody in Poland know that Vilnius is Lithuania and that nothing can piss off Lithuanian as Polish Vilnius. If you ask them why they are so angry with Lithuania, you may get a totally different story. Did you ever try to swap it for Kraków? LMAO
@rebuzz6866
@rebuzz6866 Жыл бұрын
@@mariuszlech9173 Vilnius officially become Polish as result of the Constitutional Union on 3 of May 1791. Lithuania and Poland become one undeviable country. That Union give Poland the right to resurrection in the borders from 1772. Unfortunately, in 1918 Germans and the Lithuanian Bolsheviks didn't agree with that and had different plans.
@Fact0rFiction
@Fact0rFiction Жыл бұрын
@@rebuzz6866 Even though they formed the union between two countries, Vilnius was still part of Lithuania.
@ohhoney777
@ohhoney777 Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian I love Poland! Very beautiful and strong country, we are blessed to have such great neighbors. 🇱🇹🤝🇵🇱
@SunRiseEvery-day
@SunRiseEvery-day Жыл бұрын
I have nothing but respect for Polish people, they are my brothers, my friends and my collogues. Long live Strong, innovative and Moral Poland. I have nothing but good words. Visited Warsaw 3 times, 1 time Krakow, 1 time Szczecin and the sea side. Highly recommend
@throstlewanion
@throstlewanion Жыл бұрын
The Polish-Lithuanian relationship sounds a lot like the relationship between Spain and Portugal. Spanish people view Portugal quite positively and see it as Spain’s “little brother” but my Portuguese friends have told me that they still remember their war for independence and don’t always view Spain quite as positively
@sporeman2334
@sporeman2334 Жыл бұрын
as a Belarusian i wish my country had never been occupied by the regime and was allowed to join the club. the present situation, and being left behind by the neighbours who should be our closest friends, is making me beyond sad
@piotrg2096
@piotrg2096 Жыл бұрын
It is hard to escape Russian cage, nobody can help you without the risk of great war, but we all hope your country will manage to do that. Nobody think badly about Belarusians in Poland, we know you are enslaved or fooled. Before the war, you were always welcomed in Poland. My father was telling me that you are the closest nation to ours. Be brave
@damianjarzebski5168
@damianjarzebski5168 Жыл бұрын
trust me we may throw shade at Belarus but we mean your government not your people. we stand firmly with your people and hope that you will prevail against the regime
@piotrsie5465
@piotrsie5465 Жыл бұрын
Most people in Poland understand your situation. We love people of Belarus. I pray you became free from Russia aswell.
@josipag2185
@josipag2185 Жыл бұрын
Your comment makes me so sad, but I don't think they left you as if it was their call, USA, Brits and French after WW2 left whole Eastern Europe to Russia and to manage how to escape by themselves. But I get you. And wush you all the best, it is sad really.
@sporeman2334
@sporeman2334 Жыл бұрын
@@josipag2185 i don't think that WW2 consequences are all that relevant here. we (Belarusians) are sorta responsible for electing that arsehole back in the 90s. now we shall be responsible for getting rid of him.
@tomek10m
@tomek10m Жыл бұрын
I am Pole and I've just recently visited Polish-Lithuanian borderlands by bike, including Sejny/Seinai County with Lithuanian minority and the small Lithuanian town Lazdijai or Łoździeje in Polish. The border is completely open with no controls and by looking at the license plates, it seems that people are visiting each other quite often. I was curious about that place because of the articles that said that the area called Suwalki Gap is one of the most dangerous place in Europe because of the possible Russian and Belarussian attack but when you are there, it turns out that that's very peaceful place with beautiful nature and quaint villages, farmlands, forests and lakes. I've never seen so many storks in one area, definitely worth a visit! When I was in a bilingual Polish municipality Puńsk/Punskas and there are many signs and advertisements that are in Polish and Lithuanian. There are a couple of nice restaurants that serve Lithuanian cuisine which is really good, that cold cucumber soup with potatoes is excellent at hot summer days! I asked a lady in the shop that was speaking to the customers both in Lithuanian and Polish about the languages that people know there and she said almost everyone knows both Lithuanian and Polish to some level so I guess people are fine with both nationalities. Lithuania is awesome and all those animosities between our countries can be easily overcome by the time with the open borders 🇪🇺🇵🇱🇱🇹
@luckycookie5063
@luckycookie5063 Жыл бұрын
Suwalki nature is so so pretty, lands of fairytales! I loved it, even though only through a window, it has left a long lasting impression!
@piotrszczesnowicz6983
@piotrszczesnowicz6983 Жыл бұрын
Litwo, Ojczyzno moja! ty jesteś jak zdrowie; Ile cię trzeba cenić, ten tylko się dowie, Kto cię stracił
@dislikebutton6811
@dislikebutton6811 Жыл бұрын
Dziś piękność twą w całej ozdobie Widzę i opisuję, bo tęsknię po tobie. Panno Święta, co Jasnej bronisz CzęstochowyI w Ostrej świecisz Bramie! Ty, co gród zamkowy Nowogródzki ochraniasz z jego wiernym ludem
@user-mh2uj7ns6h
@user-mh2uj7ns6h 11 ай бұрын
Tyle, że to nie o obecnej Litwie.
@mohhie
@mohhie 2 ай бұрын
@@user-mh2uj7ns6hdzieki cpt obvious
@ivanos_95
@ivanos_95 Жыл бұрын
As a Pole, it saddens me what happened between our people in the interwar period, not only because Poland and Lithuania share a common history, but especially because the period of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was the best time in history for both nations. Even though we shouldn't forget the Polish-Lithuanian war that was started by the Poles, or the Lithuanian atrocities against the Polish civilians, we should treat those events as reminder of our flawed nature, and rebuild our relation in order to avoid those mistakes in the future and stand against the common enemies.
@5Penkets
@5Penkets Жыл бұрын
PLC was only good for Poland. This is what i often see Polish people forget, for Poland it was perfect for Belarussians, Ukrainians and Lithuanians…not so much, Polonisation was rampant and Lithuanian language spread went from south of Kaliningrad all the way to Smolensk now Lithuanian language goes from Klaipeda to Vilnius not to forget PKN-T (Polish pro-Soviet rebel state) that was formed in eastern Lithuania due to Tutejszy who are basically Ethnic Lithuanians(or Belarussians or Ukrainians) who were Polonised. Due to these things no Lithuanian would want such union to come back. For interwar our war was a typical war: 2 fascist governments fighting for some stupid historic claims murdering each other’s civilians just because they hate them. Thankfully both of our nations are in NATO and EU and we can now truly live like brothers and not enemies. 🇱🇹❤️🇵🇱
@slec22
@slec22 Жыл бұрын
@@5Penkets xD How so? It's you that chose it. No one forced Jagiełło to marry Jadwiga... Also no one forced you into union...
@beandrag9019
@beandrag9019 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no it was only good for Poland lmao, Lithuania might as well have not existed in the commonwealth
@beandrag9019
@beandrag9019 Жыл бұрын
@@slec22 imagine arguing and placing blame on someone 500 years after something happened, cringe
@Gulliverian
@Gulliverian Жыл бұрын
@@5Penkets This is very sad and disappointing perspective of seeing common history. Not seeing the benefits of the Union for both parties is simply unfair, but I'm not going to get into dispute here. I just regret that Lithuanians feel this way..... knowing that many Poles would be willing to fight for Lithuania if necessary.....
@ax-man8249
@ax-man8249 Жыл бұрын
From polish perspective, I don't think that we have any negative relations between eachother, we really like lithuanians mostly because of our history, alliances etc. I was always positive about Lithuanians, so did my family and friends :) I really understand why lithuanians would dislike us, mostly because polonisation and taking their historical capital city Wilno (Vilnius) from them and making it a part of Poland back in 1920-1939. I would love to visit Lithuania in the future. Remember lithuanians, we love ya all 🇵🇱♥️🇱🇹
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Жыл бұрын
A lot of you from Poland are commenting and saying that you "didn't know that Lithuania hates Poland." I may not have made it clear enough in the video, but I need to state that any bad feelings or attitudes towards the Polish are held by a very, very, small group of people, and I'm almost certain that much of the country is now perfectly happy with our Polish neighbors. The purpose of this video was to try and describe some tensions that may exist among certain groups due to the long history the two countries have shared. 🇱🇹🤝🇵🇱 Update: Any corrections and clarifications have been placed in the video description.
@Pablo_oobo
@Pablo_oobo Жыл бұрын
Even though you wanted initially to explain to Polish society that (paraphrasing) “it is not, as it is presented on my own video”, than you successfully contradicted yourself. Congratulations!
@CreativeFull
@CreativeFull Жыл бұрын
Dont know, but if you have a problem with polands just say that, and dont blame country for that
@AquaBallUndertale
@AquaBallUndertale Жыл бұрын
Yay
@mba2808
@mba2808 Жыл бұрын
Tbh i forgot that Lithuania exist in first place. And that's funny, because they are quite wealthier than us.
@MurdokEXTRA
@MurdokEXTRA Жыл бұрын
I heard some time ago that a lot of the tension nowadays comes from the polish minority in Vilnius. Very loud about their nationality apparently though I wouldn't know. As someone from a southern region of Poland my takeaway from history lessons in school was that Lithuanians were total bros back in the days of Commonwealth but after WWI there wasn't really any will to cooperate and it wasn't really ever explained why. Nowadays I have a better grasp on what actually happened between our nations and my view changed to: It could have went so much better ... we had opportunities to make things right way earlier.
@mantaspaskevicius6293
@mantaspaskevicius6293 Жыл бұрын
🇱🇹 Lithuania ❤️ Poland 🇵🇱
@papughh
@papughh Жыл бұрын
🇵🇱❤️🇱🇹
@papughh
@papughh Жыл бұрын
@Adam Nieniewski bruh
@papughh
@papughh Жыл бұрын
@Adam Nieniewski a na jakiej podstawie niby Wilno należy do Polski?
@rebuzz6866
@rebuzz6866 Жыл бұрын
@@papughhWilno stało się polskim miastem na podstawie Unii Konstytucyjnej 3 maja 1791. Litwa i Polska stały się jednymi i niepodzielnym państwem. BTW, dzięki tej unii nie tylko Wilno, ale wszystkie miasta na terenie całej Litwie się stały polskimi miastami. Unia ta dała Polsce podstawę prawną do odrodzenia się w granicach z 1772. Unia konstytucyjna obejmowała również teren Ukrainy.
@papughh
@papughh Жыл бұрын
@@rebuzz6866 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@mareka3740
@mareka3740 Жыл бұрын
One important correction: in Poland only the village of Puńsk (Punskas) has a Lithuanian majority. According to the 2002 population census in the town of Sejny there are just some 8 % of Lithanians and in the whole Sejny county - around 21 %.
@Comrade_Marius
@Comrade_Marius Жыл бұрын
From the area ✌🏼 Census does underreport us but Poles are definitely the majority in Sejny
@KONSOLIUS
@KONSOLIUS Жыл бұрын
Yes, but it wasn't like this until 1920 when Poland occupied these lands. Lithuania territory, that was was occupied by Poland back then was forcefully polonized, especially in 1928-1939. Lithuanian schools and organisations were massively closed, children were not allowed to speak Lithuanian even during break time at schools. Every day young children had to learn a song "I'm a young pole". If you officialy declared that you are lithuanian, it was almost impossble to get a job in the institutions.
@Comrade_Marius
@Comrade_Marius Жыл бұрын
@@KONSOLIUS yup pretty true, most back in the day just declared Polish. And in Sejny the discrimination was the worst that’s why it’s strongly polish now. Most forgotten what language their grandparents spoke
@szczepionzabijaka8476
@szczepionzabijaka8476 Жыл бұрын
@@Comrade_Marius Wybaczcie nam tę niegodziwość, mieliśmy mentalność zaboru.
@Darius-ip3pm
@Darius-ip3pm Жыл бұрын
@@szczepionzabijaka8476 Za co ty ich przepraszasz. Według Litwinów największym osiągnięciem Litwy przedwojennej była lituanizacja ludności polskiej w okolicach Kowna. Jakoś nie słyszałem żeby Litwini kiedykolwiek za to przepraszali, przeciwnie szczycą się tym. Mieszkało tam bardzo wielu Polaków. Litwini też byli pod zaborem i mieli jak ująłeś "mentalność zaboru". A kogo nie przerobili na Litwina to jak Niemcy przyszli to szaulisi (litewscy kolaboranci) wymordowali pod Wilnem w Ponarach. Szacuje się że było od 80 do 100 tysięcy ofiar. Ukraińcy zdają sobie sprawę z mordów na Wołyniu, Litwini udają że nic się w Ponarach nie stało. Ot, braterskie porachunki.
@gregorio84
@gregorio84 Жыл бұрын
I have met many Lithuanians in UK ... and my experience is ... during the first meet I got the feeling that Lithuanians don't like Poles ,but after knowing eachother despite of language we have much more incommon than we are different . At some point we always have this click. Now I have many great friends out there and can't wait to finally visit Lietuva . All the best Lithuania 🇱🇹 ❤️
@44lucas
@44lucas Жыл бұрын
As a Pole I have similar thoughts as other Polish commenters - never ever thought of Lithuania badly. I guess the part of Lithuanian attitude towards Poland stems from the fact that Poland is a much larger country and that Lithuania also used to be a large one and suffers from trauma of lost great past (somewhat similarly to what Hungary experienced). What I can say to our neighbours to the north east is that the present and future are more pressing now. We have a common threat upon us and we should focus on what we have in common. There's plenty.
@marcinterlecki6021
@marcinterlecki6021 Жыл бұрын
For any interested in history of relations of both states and nations (however we will define 'nations' in this context) I would highly recommend Robert Frost's "The Oxford History of Poland-Lithuania". 3 tomes in total, this monumental thing gives (in my opinion) very balanced and objective view on reasons behind both unions and history of those. Frost does not take Polish nor Lithuanian (nor Ruthenian, for that matter) position, but gives invaluable insight into details and under-the-hood mechanisms which are very little known to the public. Spoiler alert - whoever you are, be prepared for your national ego to be hurt as some of your precious myths will be definitely debunked...
@chatter87
@chatter87 Жыл бұрын
Hi, where can I find volume II and III, as it looks like only volume I is available, thanks.
@agaw225
@agaw225 Жыл бұрын
@@chatter87 the author actually planned to write and publish a trilogy about PLC, but so far only part 1 has been written. indeed a really good book, I look forward to the next parts ... if you're interested in the history of this part of Europe, I recommend you ,,Bloodlands Europe between Hitler and Stalin" by Timothy Snyder.
@daxx77m
@daxx77m Жыл бұрын
I think we need each other. Especially now, when one certain country would love to see both of our countries marginalized, subjugated and possibly even destroyed. If both of our governments have any common sense left they will cooperate with each other to the benefit of both countries.
@ree2453
@ree2453 Жыл бұрын
Real life interactions with Polish people were always positive for me (the ones I encountered in the UK). Seems most "conflicts" are between amateur historians of both sides who are living in the past. However, I haven't encountered a Polish person in Vilnius yet, since I live in western part of Lithuania. Maybe they might hold some unknown grudges, I don't know. I'd say your everyday person really doesn't care, it's just a small fringe group on both sides. Update : you can already see such "historians" fighting in the comment section from both sides
@fidenemini111
@fidenemini111 Жыл бұрын
Žverelo, Žuvialo, Reksnis, Kodis, Jodko, Kiškel', Voišnis, Survilo, Voišvilo, Andruloic, Janoic, Dudoic, Gaidis - common surenames of local Poles. Will they feel more Polish when now they are allowed to write Żuwiałło instead of Žuvialo or Woisznis instead of Voišnis, I don't know.
@Pablo_oobo
@Pablo_oobo Жыл бұрын
@@fidenemini111 If they want to do so - yes, it could make them importance to be Żywiejko rather than Žyvieyko. And all the signs on the sky show that indeed it is important to them. So either you can ignore reality - or as it was in the past: try to "fight" it - or you can just admit that it will change nothing for worse, to accept your reality. Giving right to have your own name (whatever written or spelled) is just human right. Giving right to humans is just something making us more human, than - let's say - "rusiki mir" approach?
@slec22
@slec22 Жыл бұрын
@@fidenemini111 Let's rewerse it and force you to write your name and surname in Polish. I wonder what wil your reaction be...
@shemica16
@shemica16 Жыл бұрын
@@slec22 If I went to live in Poland, denounced my nationality and asked for a Polish passport, then of course I would need to conform to the rules of the country I want to be a citizen of. Same practice is done in a lot of countries, for example in Japan - if you want to become a Japanese citizen, you have to change your name to be able to write it in Japanese letters, which often times butchers the name horrendously. Simple as that. You live in a country, you want to be a citizen - you conform to their rules, in this case - the rules of language. I would not have a problem with writing their names in Polish in Lithuanian passports, but I am worried it will open doors to others wanting to write their names in whatever language and alphabet they want claiming discrimination... The problem with this is that it will be very difficult for, let's say, a clinic or a school to enter the name in the system. There is bound to be misspellings and other mistakes, like missing a single stroke writing an unfamiliar character, so what if that happened in a legal document? The problems that would cause could potentially be devastating. That's why I think it's not a good idea. It's best to stick to the national language for the national passport.
@shemica16
@shemica16 Жыл бұрын
Same here too, I live in Vilnius and all the Polish I've had the pleasure of meeting, were nice people. Polish are really cool in that unlike Russians of Vilnius, they do not demand everyone to speak Polish and they speak Lithuanian so well that sometimes I get surprised they are Polish. Russians, on the other hand, plainly refuse to speak Lithuanian.
@patryk8303
@patryk8303 Жыл бұрын
In Poland people respect and like Lithuanians and I am saying it as a Pole. 🇵🇱
@botronas6039
@botronas6039 Жыл бұрын
Cool to know at least some poles think about us ):
@nopeoppeln
@nopeoppeln Жыл бұрын
@@botronas6039 I’ve never seen someone talking bad stuff about Lithuanians, maybe some nationalist nutjobs, but that’s a fringe part of the society
@ukaszwalczak1154
@ukaszwalczak1154 Жыл бұрын
As also a Pole, sadly, no, Poland often forgets about Lithuania unless it's something big. Like, we have a saying about friendship with Hungary, but we don't have one for Lithuania-
@tomaszklosinski5511
@tomaszklosinski5511 Жыл бұрын
We, Poles and Lithuanians, are brotherly nations and we will always remain so! 🇱🇹❤🇵🇱 I'd say "love-hate" is too strong word for the relationship between our nations - it's rather "love with complicated history", like an old couple who gets into fight and gets separated (interwar period), and then gets back together after few years or so, and lives happy ever after. Myliu tave Lietuva!
@Foxtina88
@Foxtina88 Жыл бұрын
Never in my life heard bad things about poles. Love and respect for you guys.
@pun26pun
@pun26pun Жыл бұрын
Osobiście nie mam nic do Litwy, lubię ten kraj, podoba mi się, jednak zawsze mam obawy, kiedy tam jadę. Kierowcy potrafią zajeżdżać drogę, po prostu złośliwie, bo widzą polskie rejestracje. Chciałam zaplanować wyjazd do Palangi, ale jednak wybrałam inny kraj, ponieważ na Litwie czuję, że Polacy nie są lubiani 🤷‍♀A to jest ważna grupa turystów, stąd dziwi mnie, że zdarzają się takie wrogie zachowania w stosunku do Polaków. Litwa organizuje wiele kampanii, mających na celu przyciągnięcie polskich turystów, jest wysyp vlogów w kolaboracji z litewskimi organizacjami turystycznymi. Polacy nie patrzą na Litwę w sposób wrogi. Ta niechęć jest wg mnie niestety jednostronna 😔 Polacy mają naprawdę dobre skojarzenia z Litwą, lubią litewską kuchnię, na Podlasiu i na Suwalszczyźnie jest wiele sklepów z litewską żywnością, dużo ludzi kupuje ją na co dzień.
@Pablo_oobo
@Pablo_oobo Жыл бұрын
Osobiście też tak uważam. Litwa cały czas „pachnie” antypolskością. Coś musicie z tym zrobić bracia Litwini!
@craftah
@craftah Жыл бұрын
well there are xenophobes everywhere. most lithuanians dont give a f to be honest
@joew9690
@joew9690 Жыл бұрын
@@Pablo_oobo TO nie żadni Litwini ani bracia .... to żmudzini którzy ukradli nam naszą metropolie ..przed nami to była mała gówniana wiocha zabita dechami ! Polacy władowali czas siłe pieniądze i rozumy i oręż a później jeszcze przemysł i rozwineli z tego dziadostwa potężną metropolie i zbudowali Wilno od "podstaw" - prawdziwi Litwini żyją na terenie obecnej Białorusi - stalin mieszał dziełił nasze narody ile wlezie bo wiedział że gdyby nie daj Bóg niemieli głowic a plan pilsudzkiego czyli stworzenie Uni Polski i krajów Bałtyckich i Rusi by wypalilł - byli bysmy siłą która z łatwością by ich pokonała. Oni po prostu chcieli by się odciąć zabrać nam miasto które stworzyliśmy swoją krwawizną i powiedzieć nara ! Oni powinni byc przeorani przez ruskich i to tak strasznie ze z kwikiem pognali by do nas a tutaj powinni zastać tylko zamkniete granice i strzały pod stopy to samo z resztą Banderowcy. Nie wiedza i niedouctwo oraz naiwność moich rodaków przeraża mnie ! Kiedyś denerwowałem się jak ktos obrażał mój naród - dziś wiem ze to niestety cześciowo prawda - jesteśmy narodem owiec....
@Pablo_oobo
@Pablo_oobo Жыл бұрын
@@joew9690 Straszny jesteś i niesamowicie jednostronny, ograniczony w tym co piszesz. Twoje opinie są dokładnie tym co uważam za obskurantyzm i krwiożerczy nacjonalizm, obcy idei Rzeczpospolitej Obojga Narodów oraz nawet Piłsudskiemu (nie mówiąc o dzisiejszej Polsce). Błędy językowe, ortografia wręcz tylko potwierdzają, że gdzieś został w edukacji i Twoim wychowaniu popełniony błąd, przez co stałeś się pożywką dla głupich i niemających uzasadnienia ani w polskiej historii ani w polskiej strategii polityki zagranicznej idei na skraju faszyzmu / wojującego nacjonalizmu. Wstydź się!
@lv.1crook
@lv.1crook Жыл бұрын
I'm from Poland but i live in the Netherlands. I've met some Lithuanians and every one of them was very friendly. I want to visit Vilnus some day
@mikoajkurbiel3146
@mikoajkurbiel3146 Жыл бұрын
I am a Pole living all my life in Poland. Me as well all who I know never said anything bad about Lithuania or Lithuanians. I personally like Lithuania, would like to visit it one day. I appreciate centuries of our joined history. I consider Lithuania as a close sister. I am sorry we took Vilnius after the I world war although I know that first plans of Polish authorities that time was to recreate Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. If this couldnt be done (I suppose because Lithuanians wanted their own country), they decided to incorporate majority Polish ethnic areas to Poland (including Vilnius) which unfortunately was harmful for Lithuanians. I hope this event would not affect our friendship in the future.
@deivas1255
@deivas1255 11 ай бұрын
Am Lithuanian and this is the only bad thing I have heard from step dad that Polish did. Accordingly by him "stealing our capital" which for me it's all in the past. Poles and Lithuanians need to be strong together.🦾
@arunasz2443
@arunasz2443 2 ай бұрын
Oh, how can you trust someone who has already betrayed you?
@Snatch737
@Snatch737 Жыл бұрын
The statement about Poles ignoring Lithuania is unfortunately true and I write that as a Polish person myself. The only country in EU we are putting attention to are Germany. I believe we Poles should stop worrying about compering ourselves to Germany so much and try to build closer relationship with our other neighbors. Thankfully this changes slowly and we are for example discovering Czech culture and politics. There are many things we can learn about Lithuania, I was very surprised when I learned that Lithuania was richer than Poland for the whole history and if Lithuania were independent during communism, it would be, along with the other Baltic States, the richest Eastern Bloc country.
@mateuszkmiec754
@mateuszkmiec754 Жыл бұрын
Czechia got more attention due to the lawsuit that costed Poland 1 billion euro. Unfortunaltelly our neighbours seem to only benefit from attacking Poland. Seeing how poor negotioators Poland has only encourages future hostility.
@user-mh2uj7ns6h
@user-mh2uj7ns6h 11 ай бұрын
"Lithuania was richer than Poland for the whole history" no it's not true. Why are you lying so much?
@johnnysmith9155
@johnnysmith9155 Жыл бұрын
Most Polish people I've met were really nice. And I must say what Polish have that we Lithuanians lack - that is to stand up for each other, as a community etc. At home and abroad.
@bartosznaswiecie1179
@bartosznaswiecie1179 Жыл бұрын
I'm Polish and I'd like to correct you. Jadwiga was actually titled "king" as she was the official ruler of the country. Also we were so much ahead with democracy we were playing with pronouns in 15th century. 😎 Besides that, I've met only one Lithuanian person who said that they had a grudge with Poles. And I've met a lot of You, living in the UK.
@Ryuji566
@Ryuji566 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago a film from Lithuania was circulating on the Polish Internet. In which young Lithuanians destroyed plates with Polish surnames. They bent them so that only the Lithuanian spelling was visible. We have many people in Poland with foreign surnames. Therefore, this action was perceived in Poland as a manifestation of aggression and racism. Nevertheless, the attitude towards Lithuania is very positive. Poles often remember their common history, but unfortunately Lithuanians often perceive it as if we wanted to occupy their lands or enslave them. I hope our relationship will only improve.
@arunasz2443
@arunasz2443 2 ай бұрын
Oh, you forgot how you betrayed and occupied Vilnius? And do you have any other questions? Even, you slander the polish language like the bolsheviks..by forcing..! And you think we will forget it? NEVER!
@nexor7809
@nexor7809 10 күн бұрын
@@arunasz2443 it aint that deep. Until i met lithuanians i didnt know there was any animosity towards us. In polish schools the commonwealth is portrayed very much as an equal union your other choice was russia considering that lithuania was very underdeveloped in history. Im pretty sure they would not include you in their name such as russia-lithuania, and instead fully russify you into their empire.
@midas3749
@midas3749 Жыл бұрын
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@MrOlek700
@MrOlek700 Жыл бұрын
I'm Polish, I was in Lithuania for 2 weeks six years ago. It was great. People were awesome. I visited Alytus, Vilnius, Kaunas, Druskininkai and Klaipeda.
@bartekkaczmarczyk4349
@bartekkaczmarczyk4349 Жыл бұрын
I send the most love to our Lithuanian brothers and sisters!! We love you in Poland!! The past we share is complex, and the negative moments are simply a reminder of human greed in difficult times, and shouldn’t overshadow our centuries of love and brotherhood. We are blessed with you as neighbours. 🇵🇱❤️ 🇱🇹
@robertastk
@robertastk Жыл бұрын
I work with polish people on daily basis, travel to Poland at least 2-3 times a year. And I have nothing but best words and "white" envy how Poland evolved in last 25 years, how big their own market is, how in many ways Poland feels better than many "Western" European countries, etc. And I know real poles living in Vilnius (the ones who has their families in Poland, and speak Polish) - they are wonderful people with strong identity and community, especially through Center of Polish culture in Vilnius events. Talking about Šalčininkai, etc. very well observed most people speaking Russian or Russian / Polish mix. Most of their names are lithuanian origin. Since commonwealth Polish language was taken as upper class language and Lithuanian was considered as peasant's language. Since these times there were many people who spoke Polish or considered themselves as poles. Currently most of those people do not have any family members in Poland, but do have in Belarus, most of them can not speak or understand proper polish language. One of my friends who considered herself as polish - went for masters program to Warsaw and it's her words "it took me a year to speak proper Polish", despite speaking "polish" at home all her life. Regards lithuanians attitude to poles - there are jokes, but mostly people love Poland for everything from people, food, wonderful places to visit to simply cheaper groceries or other stuff.
@GluonToo
@GluonToo Жыл бұрын
I am Polish, but I have family in Lithuania. My grandparents were Polish nobility and had an estate near Kiejdany. In 2021 I went there with my brother to see the remains and graves of our ancestors. We also met with the remnants of our family. - Only the oldest people still spoke Polish. The younger generation no longer spoke Polish at all. Interestingly, they all claimed to be Lithuanian, not Polish! This surprised me a lot, because they were descendants of the Polish nobility. Ha, ha - Lithuania is afraid of Polonization, and in fact it is the Poles who are undergoing Lithuanianization. :)
@astro5439
@astro5439 Жыл бұрын
As a Pole interested in history I know our relations had its ups and downs. Today though I look hopefully to a bright future of Poland and Lithuania, perhaps even with Belarus and Ukraine in the future, to be united and work together for the benefit of all of us. The initiatives like the Lublin Triangle have so much potential and it'd be a shame not to take advantage of them.
@darktimes2360
@darktimes2360 Жыл бұрын
Bringing those 4 countries you mentioned together equals basically to restoring historical PLC once again, although in a new form. That would've been insanely cool, and from the safety perspective that's very good solution against a certain threat in future, but there are just so many problems that need to be solved in order to achieve such a union/alliance, especially with Ukraine and Belarus that sadly I cannot imagine it happening anytime soon
@bernardokonski5122
@bernardokonski5122 Жыл бұрын
I observe that resentment of Lithuanians to Poles are being melting as a rule. I visited Lithuania a few times . The Lithuanins need to balnace between protecting their culture and national heritage and providing the rights to Polish minority which are justified by international standrds, and there were notorius problems with this second issue in the independent Lithuania. The domination fo Polish culture in the past was the effect of its internal strength rather than execise of force, so it is often hard to sieve Polish admixture I guess, but it does not matter at all. The truth is that we are both stronger together, rather apart and no country will guarantee freedom to our countries if we do not act ourselves united. Ukraine is an example of breaking such guarantees. If the strategy win-win for the both countries is the rule for the future we should cooperate, be successful and prevail over any tyrannies from East or West. Polish-Lithuanian ties were bound because of the threat from the Teutons, then Moscovites. Will Lithuanians or Poles as nations survive up to now to stand alone?, will our countries be so potent in many ways if not the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? I do not think so. We might do many things together to befit, and lose to be apart.
@nickpanko7318
@nickpanko7318 Жыл бұрын
As a Pole I consider Lithuania to be a sister nation of ours. We might not speak the same language and have a bit different traditions, but no one can deny our history together and close ties between our people. Half of my acquaintances have family in Lithuania. Can't say the same thing about myself as most of my family comes from Germany but I still think that it's a shame that Poland and Lithuania grew so apart.
@mateuszkmiec754
@mateuszkmiec754 Жыл бұрын
But they don't consider you to be their brother. They have a lot of hate towards us.
@melanomadrumpf9736
@melanomadrumpf9736 6 ай бұрын
@@mateuszkmiec754 Some do, some don't. We don't have toxic people? Lithuanians have changed, most young people view things differently.
@serrizin
@serrizin Жыл бұрын
As a male, over 30 living in top 3 most populated city in Poland -I've never heard bad jokes about Lithuanians nor do I have any issue with Lithuanians. Actually with many Poles being obsessed about our history and mentioned in the video Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth I tend to hear that we should rebuild the commonwealth in economical way and get closer with Lithuania. Poles like Lithuania, since we know they sufered from Soviet Union just like we did. Hopefully the artifical "migrant crisis" staged by Belarus and RuZZia will bring us closer together in economic, military and cultural way.
@KrysFG
@KrysFG Жыл бұрын
As a Polish man, all I can say is I clicked on this video because I saw the Lithuanian flag in the thumbnail, later realised it’s about Poland too, I see 🇱🇹, I watch, I like. It’s a routine
@jakublaszczkowski2211
@jakublaszczkowski2211 Жыл бұрын
We are not one country anymore. We had some fights with each others before our union and after our collapse. We have done a lot of big things and victories together during the history. Also we had a few big failures. We were one of the biggest countries in Europe and later we were completly wiped off from the map... We don't need to be one country but we need to be strong and united. Now and forever. And we need to help our brothers from our old state (Belarusians and Ukrainians) to become free, strong, independent and close allied with us. This Alliance will make that everything will be fine in our region. Lets wake the commonwealth spirt of freedom which is in our blood! Stay strong brothers! Greetings from Poland 💪🇵🇱🇱🇹🇺🇦(white-red-white flag ^^) 🤝
@szyminszeng6610
@szyminszeng6610 8 ай бұрын
Freedeom for Belarus true flag of Belarus🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 is flag from WKL/LDK
@LeszekDeska
@LeszekDeska Жыл бұрын
I'm Polish. I was surprised to see title 'love-hate' as I never thought about Lithuania negatively and I haven't met such opinions in Poland (and I'm not young - 46 :) ). I was always thinking that we share so many centuries of common and very successful state that from both sides there are warm felings, but then I learned that it's not so good from Lithuanian side. But I understand why - 1920 and Wilno in Poland was I think main reason. On one hand I agree that it was played very badly (Piłsudski promising that Wilno wil not be taken and then staging a coup to annect it) on the other hand - it was not occupation (as it's stated in this movie) - it was indeed city populated by Poles (and Jews) there were hardly any Lithuanians there. Generally our Second Republic (1918-1939) was very bad in diplomacy, same happened with our southern neighbours - instead of thinking about real enemies and how to cooperate with our most obvious allies - Lithuanians, Czechs, Slovaks our state was playing like imperialistic one. Anyway history is history, let's look into the future. I'm happy we're both in EU and NATO and we might freely travel to see all the history in Vilnius just like you might come to Warszawa. Feel invited!
@prodrafibrg
@prodrafibrg Жыл бұрын
A few days go I went to Lithuania for the weekend as I was in the north-east of Poland visiting my parents. I always thought Polish and Lithuanian relationships are similar to Polish and Hungarian, which is mostly love, respect and brotherhood, but then I got informed that Lithuanians don't really like Poles and look down on us but I never got that feeling while being in Vilnius and Kaunas. I even managed to drink a few beers with Lithuanians in Vilnius and had a great time there. Lithuanians are great and I hope they think the same about Poles.
@DawidStankiewiczhMogia
@DawidStankiewiczhMogia Жыл бұрын
I am from Poland and in my family no one talk bad about Lithuanians and we still claim Lithuanians as a friends and brothers of the poles. Okay we had some "argues" in our history but even friends can argue sometimes but we are still friends and family...
@FEDEXLuchs
@FEDEXLuchs Жыл бұрын
Litwo, Ojczyzno moja! ty jesteś jak zdrowie; Ile cię trzeba cenić, ten tylko się dowie, Kto cię stracił. Dziś piękność twą w całej ozdobie Widzę i opisuję, bo tęsknię po tobie. Kocham naszego bracia i siostry
@arekw7388
@arekw7388 Жыл бұрын
I have many Lithuanian friends with whom I have very good relations ... Time to use history to make our countries stronger and realize that together we are stronger economically and politically.
@rutos7
@rutos7 Жыл бұрын
We like Poles. We don't hate you. I like conection from the past which we have. Strong together 🇱🇹 ❤️ 🇵🇱
@O0rak
@O0rak Жыл бұрын
I am polish and I love Lithuania! Nobody there talks bad about lithuania. I am even learning lithuanian becose I love it so much
@zhangzy123
@zhangzy123 Жыл бұрын
I'm Polish . 🇵🇱❤️🇱🇹 👋. Remember next time - Jadwiga had the status of king and full power😐. When she married Jagiełło, we had two kings equal to each other in power . It worked. Who would have thought.😀😀✌️
@LitNoah
@LitNoah Жыл бұрын
Im Lithuanian and Jogaila didnt want to rule the Polish Kingdom. He insisted to bang the polish princes just to get the army for the crusaders to fight whit. ;DDDDDD
@marcinterlecki6021
@marcinterlecki6021 Жыл бұрын
You're wrong, Jogaiła was a king only through Iure uxoris rule. They were not equal, Jadwiga was supreme in this relation. After her death Jogaila had hard time trying to keep his position, hence he married another Casimir The Great granddaughter just to keep the throne ....
@zhangzy123
@zhangzy123 Жыл бұрын
@@marcinterlecki6021 Miał ten status ale był traktowany jak król. Po śmierci Jadwigi zostal na tronie co było w naszym interesie i okazalo się słuszną decyzją . Dla mnie Jadwiga i Jagiełło byli czymś dobrym w naszej historii . Po tym co przeczytałem do tej pory o nich to wydaje mi się że się ciekawie uzupełniali. Oczywiście dużo też nie wiem ale mam nadzieję że było między nimi ok. prywatnie i u władzy.
@boleslavsavdax282
@boleslavsavdax282 Жыл бұрын
Anna Jagiellonka również była królem.
@kaksmakustak8300
@kaksmakustak8300 Жыл бұрын
I once went to water park in Druskienniki (Druskiennikai) and I enjoyed it very much, for me there's no bad blood between Poles and Lithuanians, we just need to respect our common heritage from the past, this family name thing mentioned in the end of the video shows the good will of Lithuanians and I'm happy about it. And if there are any problems, just talk about them clearly. We will work it out sooner or later :)
@Adrian-zn1eu
@Adrian-zn1eu Жыл бұрын
Lithuanians: "Poles don't know we exist" Meanwhile, every 10-year-old in Poland: "Litwo, Ojczyzno moja! ty jesteś jak zdrowie; Ile cię trzeba cenić, ten tylko się dowie, Kto cię stracił..."
@thekushnerproductionz4073
@thekushnerproductionz4073 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this insightful video! I’m Polish and I love Lithuanians. We share the land and unique history. I’m surprised about the negativity towards us. We share this difficult geography and we need to work together, let us not be divided! Freedom is not for granted.
@kerryalbany3922
@kerryalbany3922 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou, very interesting. Also love your narration and your voice, very easy to listen to and understand
@qwer99152
@qwer99152 Жыл бұрын
We love you Lithuania 😻
@stomil
@stomil Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Every polish kid learns national epic, which starts with words: "O Lithuania, my fatherland!".
@polishnorwegianandspanish9145
@polishnorwegianandspanish9145 Жыл бұрын
True
@slec22
@slec22 Жыл бұрын
If someone knows the context it's not strange...
@ukaszwalczak1154
@ukaszwalczak1154 Жыл бұрын
"Litwo, ojczyzno Moja, ty jesteś jak zdrowie
@TheEmpress185
@TheEmpress185 Жыл бұрын
True...
@pawelzawislak1671
@pawelzawislak1671 Жыл бұрын
As a Pole, I have absolutely zero negative thoughts of Lithuania and its people. Having said that, I don't think I've never met a Lithuanian person, but I'd wouldn't mind at all. I tend to not look at people through their nation history, and rather judge them upon their behavior instead of passport or ethnicity.
@pawelzawislak1671
@pawelzawislak1671 Жыл бұрын
​@Adam Nieniewski ​What I'm saying that it's not fair to judge people from any countries based on what their predecessors or relatives did in the past. They can't hold such responsibility. Each person should be held accountable for their own actions, and that's a point of reference for me. As for your question whether I would talk to Auschwitz guard - yes, I would talk to anyone who's not closed-minded and willing to have a civil conversation with me. That's what I do pretty much on daily basis in my activism - talking to animal abusers. But instead of throwing jabs at them, I listen to them, try to understand them, and then then simply talk to them about my views. That's how humans learn and grow. I would even talk to Hitler or Stalin if I had a chance. I doubt I'd divert them from their ways, but I'd be willing to try.
@Goldberg1234
@Goldberg1234 Жыл бұрын
Like a Pole I have nations like Lithuanians, Czechs, Slovaks and other, in my ass.
@funzario144
@funzario144 Жыл бұрын
Divided we fall, united we win. I don´t understand a single word in Lithuanian but obviously we shared the same values and accepted each other as equals over centuries. The Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth was a quite unique epidsode in this world´s history. From my humble experiance I have never seen any disrespect for our lithuanian neighbours but what remains is the nostalgy of the past common glory.
@k0ziolRD
@k0ziolRD Жыл бұрын
Lithuanians: "You took Vilnus from me" Poles: "i don't even know who you are" Im from podlasie and if we talk about lithuanians its aboout their driving in Poland. Sometimes you dont even realize how fast trucks can go.
@mateuszkmiec754
@mateuszkmiec754 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Lithuanians think we care aboit them but there are plp in Poland who don t even know where Vilnus is.
@michalbochenski4329
@michalbochenski4329 Жыл бұрын
As a Polish person I have no negative feelings towards Lithuania and their people. Hope the Lithuanians feel the same way about us :)
@marcinpomaranski7694
@marcinpomaranski7694 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Poland and I love Lithuania. Never had a chance to visit but met a few people.
@pawesabura8134
@pawesabura8134 29 күн бұрын
I'm Polish and I'm proud that we made together so great country as Commonwealth . Gratings for Lithuania
@dainiusdino9924
@dainiusdino9924 Жыл бұрын
Polish great people , greetings from Lithuainia 👍
@barendkamperman1471
@barendkamperman1471 10 ай бұрын
My dear mother, Regina near the end of her 90 years admitted her family was Polish. She was born into a Polish speaking Catholic family. Their name had been officially altered to sound Lithuanian. She learned Lithuanian in the school system. There was so much anti-Polish sentiment in the Kaunas area she bought into it. Through her years in Canada this contradiction bothered her. Finally she spoke up.
@ausriokas14m
@ausriokas14m Жыл бұрын
The rude thing might come from historical things when “those who won, write the history”. There are numerous historical debates between both of our countries, so old sentiments because of polish - lithuanian war and etc. But the most important thing that all of those “bad things” said, are from a stand point “older - younger brother”. We have our differences, cultures, languages, etc. mostly all the “rude” comments come from a prism of humour and irony. No one has these harsh sentiments anymore. Our cultures, blood and ancestry cannot be torn apart. We lived together for hundreds of years, we were neighbours for even longer. And most important thing, we were and are united against the horde. We were the wall witch stopped the bloodshed in Europe . 🇱🇹🤝🇵🇱
@szyminszeng6610
@szyminszeng6610 10 ай бұрын
Many families have mixed together over the centuries. To this day, in Poland there are many Lithuanian surnames with endings in "as", "is", in Lithuania many surnames have Polish origin. My grandfather was Polish, but he also spoke fluent Lithuanian. Before ww2 his family had Lithuanian neighbors, and relatives in familly entered into mixed marriages. They offten went to visit their Lithuanian neighbors. The Lithuanians had wells ,and lent water to the horses after the trip. When my grandfather's family visited Lithuanians, in Lithuanians house ,they spoke Lithuanian , If Lithuanians came to visit them, also for borrow something, or just for friendly visit ,they spoke Polish. Even during the fightings afer ww1 , and Vilnius conflict many ordinary people still were friends.
@zimi992
@zimi992 Жыл бұрын
From Polish perspective it is sad that there is some misstrust from Lithuanian side but it is understandable since it is a relatively small country which has to fight extra hard for its national identity. Hopefully it will get better with time, much love :)
@times4937
@times4937 Жыл бұрын
History is a cool thing, but few history buffs would want to live in a museum forever, we should remember that as Lithuanians and Poles.
@Sijuste0
@Sijuste0 Жыл бұрын
Lithuanian here, love my Polish brothers and sisters we have too much history together to hate. It's stupid. Bring back the commonwealth!
@rysiekleykam
@rysiekleykam Жыл бұрын
I've only met the kindest and most hospitable Lithanians. You guys are great and we should hang out more :)
@bruhman2089
@bruhman2089 Жыл бұрын
tbh, as a Lithuanian. I never thought something bad about Poland. I've never been there, but I hope I someday could visit it.
@dovydasstasionis
@dovydasstasionis Жыл бұрын
From yours photo I can see you are real Lithuanian by ethnicity!😅
@bruhman2089
@bruhman2089 Жыл бұрын
@@dovydasstasionis Ačiū?
@pitsky9298
@pitsky9298 Жыл бұрын
I heard few years ago from my parents after theyr trip to Vilnius, that Lithuanians doesnt like us. Never really understanded why. In Poland no one ever says anything bad about Lithuanians, we rather think about them warmly as once we were one country, for over a 200 years... Today as i work in international company i work with Lithuanians too, and feel just sympathy from both sides. To be fair after Rus attack on Ukraine, our contacts are even closer and more brotherly, but ofcourse thats just my "bubble".
@mateuszkmiec754
@mateuszkmiec754 Жыл бұрын
We don't talk about them that s why xd.
@Miki_Naz
@Miki_Naz Жыл бұрын
Some time ago i heard someone say that relationship between Poland and Lithuania is like a divorced couple, that remembers their relationship as the best part of their life. And as a Polish person i think it's a good description. Personally, because i live far away from Lithuanian border, our relations are not a topic in media and because our education about Lithuania ends on "we fucked up our relations by taking Vilnius, but now we are chill", I don't have much knowledge, nor an opinion on current Lithuania. I only know that apparently Lithuanians have worse opinion on us than we on them.
@dzejrid
@dzejrid Жыл бұрын
Barbs from Geography Now! said that in Poland episode.
@Vhisper
@Vhisper Жыл бұрын
Nope, Lithuania is a divorced wife that have been abused for a loooong time and now have official business relations, nothing more.
@grlt23
@grlt23 Жыл бұрын
@@Vhisper Why you think so?
@Vhisper
@Vhisper Жыл бұрын
@@grlt23 read my main comment of this video
@ptolemaiosachaenczyk7657
@ptolemaiosachaenczyk7657 Жыл бұрын
@@Vhisper there was no divorce...
@askarufus7939
@askarufus7939 Жыл бұрын
I am from Poland and I can't wait to visit Lithuania and drive through the completed Via Carpathia route or even Rail Baltica. Only good feelings towards this country. Im from Lublin. The most magnificent, main square in this city is a "Lithuanian square". There we have a live camera "portal" to Vilnus (check on KZfaq). I go there and I wave to random Vilnus citizens and they wave back: a wonderful feeling. PS I was a suprised pikachu meme when I first learned that not all Lithuanians like Poland the same way we like Lithuanians :o
@uzstiklo7141
@uzstiklo7141 Жыл бұрын
The 'portal' is a truly great idea! Come visit the other side of it soon!
@pw6053
@pw6053 Жыл бұрын
As a Pole I agree with other Poles saying that we actually have no negative assotiation with Lithuania whatsoever. In Poland we see Lithuanians as partners with common enemy - Russia.
@nopeoppeln
@nopeoppeln Жыл бұрын
I mean, most Poles don’t even think about Lithuania at all most of the time. it’s always Germany, and most of the time Russia. then, it’s usually Czechia, Belarus and now of course Ukraine, but also before the war most of people started minding it, due to a lot of Ukrainian migrants coming in
@thenbenagcz3931
@thenbenagcz3931 Жыл бұрын
From Poland and we Love Lithuania and all the Baltic country !!
@Anna-yx6mi
@Anna-yx6mi Жыл бұрын
Hello from Poland! I have never heard a bad word about Lithuania here and was extremely nice welcomed while visiting Vilnius.
@islandia1971
@islandia1971 10 ай бұрын
I'm from Poland, but i have half of a family in Lithuania. I never heard nothing bad about Lithuania and i think that we are very simillar and we shouldn't be against each other. 🇵🇱❤🇱🇹
@staszekr03
@staszekr03 Жыл бұрын
In 1864 both countries revolted together. We still felt together as one. Any dislike or mistrust between Poland and Lithuania was injected by the russians to stop the commonwealth from ever returning. And they succeeded, both countries fought over Vilnius in the 20s. Then under the ussr they did the same, made sure to keep contact between Poland and Lithuania to a minimum. Russia is scared of what Poland and Lithuania can achieve together. Together we can help Ukraine topple Putin. 🇵🇱❤️🇱🇹❤️🇺🇦
@bazinga-tt9pj
@bazinga-tt9pj Жыл бұрын
For anyone instrested in 1939/1940 social situation right before the Russian occupation of Lithuania and transfer of the majority of Vilnius region to "interwar" Lithuania, "Raudonasis Tvanas" (eng."The red flood") by Ignas Šeinius is a must read piece of literature.
@bazinga-tt9pj
@bazinga-tt9pj Жыл бұрын
@@gancarzpl 🤡🤡
@aleksanderkorecki7887
@aleksanderkorecki7887 Жыл бұрын
Maybe read "Boża podszewka" by Teresa Lubkiewicz-Urbanowicz, or "Kronika wypadków miłosnych" by Tadeusz Konwicki. Though, better in English as Lithuanian one tend to change a lot.
@robertg1407
@robertg1407 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see or hear a text about the Lithuanian or Belarusian character of Mickiewicz or Słowacki, I am asking for an example of Lithuanian or Belarusian poetry ... and what? There is silence ... It is interesting that they do not admit to Piłsudski so willingly? Because it would suddenly turn out that "Lithuanian" came out against Lithuania.
@mindaugasmeller5319
@mindaugasmeller5319 Жыл бұрын
Mickiewicz wrote in Polish and yes it is very true that Pilsudskis was Lithuanian, and? What is your point?
@GluonToo
@GluonToo Жыл бұрын
@@mindaugasmeller5319 He was Polish, but was born in what is now Lithuania, near Vilnius. That is, in a sense, he was Lithuanian. ;)
@mindaugasmeller5319
@mindaugasmeller5319 Жыл бұрын
@@GluonToo his parents where Lithuanian nobles from lowland who moved to Vilnius
@WERasLT
@WERasLT Жыл бұрын
I’m a lithuanian and Iike poland
@andrewkosalka3843
@andrewkosalka3843 Жыл бұрын
I wander when your polish last name Kozlowski became lithuanian Kazlauskas. My wife's family name is Kozlowski and one time I worked in LA for boss with name Kazlauskas who told me that his last name was change before WWII. Andy K
@iii7702
@iii7702 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I love to see history and politics from more perspectives than just polish one. I have heard many times that Lithuanians are quite prejudiced against Poles, which always would surprise me since, as mentioned in video, Poles don't really talk about Lithuania, and if they do- usually in a positive tone. I hope that current events and instability will bring us together economically and militarily, but with mutual respect to cultural differnces. We have dogshit neighbors that we have to deal with together...
@vytisandre5605
@vytisandre5605 Жыл бұрын
I'm Lithuanian and I love Poles as also other Lithuanians I know. For the sake of justice, it should be mentioned that there are a tiny number of idiots among Lithuanians who come out with their anti-Polish ideas from time to time. But those marginals are not impacting moods in Lithuania anyhow. Also it's a pity, but at least some part of the Polish national minority in Lithuania is pro-Kremlin. With best efforts from Russia's side, it harmed Polish-Lithuanian relations for years, because representatives of this minority constantly gave a distorted truth to Poland. For some time now, it seems that the Polish authorities have delved deeper into the essence of where all the problems come from though.
@techgregory5253
@techgregory5253 Жыл бұрын
As from Belarusian perspective I see that Lithuanians are very negative about other countries no matter if it's Poland or Belarus. Well, I can understand hatred to Belarus because of it's government and politics (though not anyone knows that most of Belarusian population is pro western and Belarusian government doesn't represent our choice) but why hatred to Poland, that's strange, maybe because of PLC times.
@fidenemini111
@fidenemini111 Жыл бұрын
May be because you deserved it.
@vytilostudios6110
@vytilostudios6110 Жыл бұрын
Im a Lithuanian, this hatred to Poland comes from a combination of PLC and midwar times, I would say nor Poland or Belarus even go close to the hatred that Lithuania has for Russia, which IMO is completely acceptable and understandable. I don't think there is etreme hate towards Belarus, but the dictatorship does not help, nor the close ties with Russia and also false claims of history.
@techgregory5253
@techgregory5253 Жыл бұрын
@@vytilostudios6110 I mostly hate Russia (well not hate but just don't like it's government and Russian nationalists). And I think that's common for Belarus - not liking Russia
@cetus4449
@cetus4449 Жыл бұрын
Grand Duchy of Lithuania - most of it was territorially and demographically Ruthenian. Therefore, today Belarus may consider itself more the heir of the history and tradition GDL than modern Lithuania.
@vytilostudios6110
@vytilostudios6110 Жыл бұрын
@@cetus4449 It spread from the Enthnic Lithuanian lands, it's Rulers and Elite were of Enthnic Lithuanian, there for Lithuania proper having a higher position than the ruthenia region, there for making modern Lithuania more equivalent to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, also having Its Capital and first Stone castles(meaning evolution was done in Lithuania proper first, meaning that it was of most inportance)
@pl-hq5hr
@pl-hq5hr Жыл бұрын
Together we stand, alone we fall.
@Mvtiniezyje
@Mvtiniezyje Жыл бұрын
im from Poland and i will love my Lithuanian brothers, we have great history and nobody cant take it from us ! much love to u all
@kolpyts
@kolpyts Жыл бұрын
If you look back at the history it is crucial to bear in mind that back when there was Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth there was no nationalism, as you mentioned. Back then saying you were polish didn’t mean a lot, it meant you were somewhere from the commonwealth. Modern Poles would have rather been described as “Koroniarze” so in English coroners. Being Lithuanian meant being from the eastern, bigger part of commonwealth, it meant to be even a better Pole, just like Mickiewicz, or Kosciuszko who now probably would have been called a Belarusian even though he was a Lithuanian (that implicated being polish). Lithuania was a great state controlling modern Belarus, Ukraine and parts of balkans and even Russia. It is important to always bear in mind that it was mostly Russian agents in the early XX century that wanted us to fight so that Commonwealth would never rise again. Back in the times when (as we would now call them) Poles, Lithuanians, Belarusians, Ukrainians etc were united they were the only country that managed to conquer Moscow. Our heroic past cannot be ever forgotten.
@luckycookie5063
@luckycookie5063 Жыл бұрын
Living in Lithuania I am yet to hear anything negative about Poles, in fact, we frequently mention Poland in our circles as an example of how to live smarter and better, and that the Polish leaders are so much wiser than the Lithuanian ones. The only "conflict" I have ever seen between the Polish and Lithuanians was went I first went to Vilnius and noticed graffitis in a few places that spelled "Wiłno nasze" 😀😀😀 which means "Vilnius is ours" in Polish. So I guess these Polish sentiments about the capital of Lithuania can naturally upset the locals especially ones living in Vilnius, I wouldn't like to see such claims daily either - let's leave history where it belongs - in the past. Overall, I found people in Poland very welcoming , friendly and helpful for which I'm super grateful, it made traveling so much easier, thank you, sisters and brothers 🤍❤️
@mieszkoherburt354
@mieszkoherburt354 Жыл бұрын
As of, WINO NASZE, first I would check shopping records some of your politicians for the porches of spray paint. LMAO
@mateuszkmiec754
@mateuszkmiec754 Жыл бұрын
Who wrote that? No one in Poland wants that city back. That would only dangerously extend our border with Russia.
@mralinauskas5986
@mralinauskas5986 Жыл бұрын
As a Lithuanian (ant Lithuanian nationalist) I can say that all Lithuanian bad jokes about Polish people are not referred to the Polish guys living in Poland, but to the local Polish minority here in Lithuania, who are mostly pro-kremlin (which is strange, since Poland itself is strongly pro European country). I can't say anything bad about Polish people, they are really very nice and willing to do a lot for their freedom, which is awesome.
@user-mh2uj7ns6h
@user-mh2uj7ns6h 11 ай бұрын
That's really a fault of Lithuanian government which practiced forced lithuanization policies and lack of reaction from Polish government, which may lead them to soviet nostalgia, when lithuania didn't exist and Poles had more human rights than in independent lithuania.
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