Polaris Power!! 700 ves VS 700 non ves comparison

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AKproXR

3 жыл бұрын

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@alaskarailroad3996 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent explained my friend. Not many people know what the ves actually does.

@Yz4Life 3 жыл бұрын

yup loved this video man. i listen to every word this guy speaks not too many people that have been working around these engines and machines since they were built i'd listen to him over a dealer.

@moparsrt3941 3 ай бұрын

So ves is better for racing matter?

@b01tact10n Жыл бұрын

Very good info! I had my 05' XC700 for 10 years before I gave it away. No problems when it came to power output. Very solid motor, but out of all the Liberty motors is the 97 700SKS. I'm a fan of the '98 600SKS also! Great Vid!

@leejohnston8629 3 жыл бұрын

Learn something new everyday thank you very much and again no snow again here in New York State and melted within a day..

@justinstjules8735 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! Great videos as usual!

@MidnightPolaris800 3 жыл бұрын

My ves 02 700 was always considerably quiet idling and mostly throughout the whole rpm range. I wish i would have done a comparison when i had my 02s. I still have my 01 xc 700 non ves in storage. Its mint. Ill have to do a video on it and my carls cycle 660 01 xc 500. I like the content though man and ive been passing on your channel info to fellow sled heads

@xxnewfieswagxx 3 жыл бұрын

Great info! Your wealth of knowledge about these things blows my mind lol. Can't relate to the 700 motors but currently running a 05 switchback 600ves and the things impressed me so far👍

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

Iv been riding these big block 6/7/800’s sense 2004. Bought a 98 xc 700 when I was 14 and have been in love with them ever sense!

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

The small block 600’s are great engines as well

@xxnewfieswagxx 3 жыл бұрын

For sure man , can't beat them

@johnathonwolfe5069 2 жыл бұрын

love your vids!

@koylanoue8058 3 жыл бұрын

I love your videos 👌

@joerutkowsky3261 3 жыл бұрын

Buddy you know your shit. Thanks for this video.

@medievalman3737 3 жыл бұрын

I got a 03 rmk 700 with 3600 miles runs strong motor hasn’t been touched besides new titanium reeds stock exhaust sounds and runs mintyy

@stephenkuehl8724 3 жыл бұрын

Skidoo 850 E-Tec power is where it’s at! Loveeee my 2019 Mxz X 850 thing pulls like an animal, top end is unreal!!!! #TeamSkidoo

@michealandreanoff934 3 жыл бұрын

#BRAAP #TeamPolaris

@mrm6779 Жыл бұрын

O'Doyle rules!! No one cares about your skidoo and how it pulls.

@aspenyukon6845 3 жыл бұрын

I had a white/blue 2004 xc800. Stock 105mph. I removed the ves valve's, pipe plugged the hole under the black plastic cap, raised the ignition timing (hold down the reverse button until fast blinks)....130mph sled nobody could beat...

@danielpomeroy 9 ай бұрын

Great video. Question: is the motor in a 2000 xc700 deluxe similar to a '98?

@JASON_GALL 4 ай бұрын

So, could you use the normal old lower compression head on the ves to get better throttle response and burn lower octane feul?

@brappbros4890 3 жыл бұрын

Do a race between the ves and non ves 700 once you get em going

@moparsrt3941 3 ай бұрын

How bout the 01 700? Is that a good one to grab for racing?

@caleblarson5290 2 жыл бұрын

So if I swap a ves head onto a non ves motor do I need to advance the timing at all? Or am I essentially canceling that out with the switch in compression

@20_below 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the information sir

@joshuacotton6436 3 жыл бұрын

Be sure to install correct ves spring for your altitude

@thatmodshop7160 3 жыл бұрын

My 99 non ves is getting 2002 VES jugs already got the head with the dual cooler option (hole on bottom of thermostat) here's. My question whonall runs thermostats??

@naterkugar479 10 ай бұрын

Thinking of putting a 2004 700 ves head on a 2002 700 (non ves), you think that would work well based off what your talking in your vidoe??? Thanks for any amd all input!!

@baileyholland4667 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve blown up 3 of these ves motors and I’m thinking about getting a non ves motor

@kekyko9951 3 жыл бұрын

The difference might seen minute, but the difference while riding is noticeable

@Butterstick420 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't know you could swap the heads...🤔

@threewheelerdonuts8284 Жыл бұрын

Is this the same for the 600 XC?

@Snotric 3 жыл бұрын

Now im gonna start looking at a ves head😄

@Snotric 3 жыл бұрын

Found one, 30$ thanks for the video 👍

@thatmodshop7160 3 жыл бұрын

@AkproXR so is there actually any difference from cranks/bottom ends from ves to non ves? I want to bolt on 02 VES jugs on my 99 bottom end cannot be done? (obviously other than the drilled out oil galories for deleting oil injection from 97-01)

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

Ves top end will bolt right up. The biggest difference in bottom ends is minor case revisions (for example, where to torque stop contacts the cases is different) and the 97-98 cranks have the locator ring in a different place then the 99+ cranks do.

@thatmodshop7160 3 жыл бұрын

@@AKproXR buddy you are a big block encyclopedia haha thanks man!!

@gryyta9617 3 жыл бұрын

i have a -02 600 ves, at what pressure should it run and where is the premium swich located?

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

On my proxr it’s on the right hand side of the bars.

@jdla140 3 жыл бұрын

has anybody actually swapped a VES head onto an older one? Not that I want to get rid of my purple head, but in my area premium fuel is the only non-ethanol fuel we can get and I know what ethanol does to carbs, so I always run premium anyway.

@gordonliddy9418 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering what your take is on the 05-06 900 rmks since you're a Polaris guy.

@shawncordeiroTerraceBC Жыл бұрын

run nobody wants them full of problems

@alecsantos3805 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a 700VES I'm currently working om installing a set of slp twins but they came from a non VES 700. Everyone said they won't work cuz the port timing is way different but from what your saying it should work just fine! Would you agree with that?

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

I can’t verify with the slp’s, though I have run stock ves pipe on non ves before without issue.

@alecsantos3805 3 жыл бұрын

No doubt, would you be willing to make another video? Diving a little deeper into the differences? Like port dimensions and how far down the ports start etc...

@johnfeyereisn7259 2 жыл бұрын

Thats all good information but I have a couple things to add: the 700 non ves heads vary alot between modles and years, i had several that I compared and found that even though the volume was very close some had tighter squish clearance than others, probably enough to affect performance. Also the bottom side of the transfer ports are better on the ves cylinders as well which I feel is contributing to better performance.

@gavinneubauer5536 3 жыл бұрын

I was actually curious if it made a diffrence for if/when I buy a sled like that and good to now it does make more power..thanks!:)

@gavinneubauer5536 3 жыл бұрын

@Dawsen Whiteis yeah I watch every video he posts but I was curious

@506curtis 3 жыл бұрын

Ride a ves, and then ride a non ves. Huge difference in performance. The ves system is just a little more maintenance though.

@chasewyant-smith3839 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a hey 2000 players XC 600 none of vest motor it’s hard to get going and I won’t stay running when it gets going what could it be it has 75 psi of compression I don’t know if that’s normal or not

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

75 psi is real low. 600’s usually run around 125 psi.

@WyoUltra 3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever blocked off the decompression ports? I've read up on it. Not a lot of info on if it's worth it or not.

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

Not worth the effort from what I have heard.

@WyoUltra 3 жыл бұрын

See, I've heard you can get better throttle response by doing it? 🤷‍♂️ I was considering doing it to mine. Pretty easy process.

@thatbigblock7007 3 жыл бұрын

I might need to look into doing that head mod, so far I have 3 diffrent aftermarket heads for a 824 non ves, hotseat, chopper city, and union bay maybe I should do the ves head, you ever run it before

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

I have not run one yet, but if I ever come across a ves head I fully plan on doing so. If you ever want to sell any of those aftermarket heads let me know! I like collecting stuff like that.

@thatbigblock7007 3 жыл бұрын

@@AKproXR will do, right now I’m on the look out for lrm pipes for a 700

@danknugz7605 Жыл бұрын

Hey man. Youre deadly informative. Thx alot. I have 06 rmk 600 and one of my power valves started pushing n spitting lots of burned oil ... what does that mean. If i clean them will it fix or does that mean other things going on . Pls help. Keep making deadly videos for us boys

@AKproXR Жыл бұрын

99% chance a bellow is ripped. Time to service your VES

@danknugz7605 Жыл бұрын

@AKproXR when i pulled them apart the shiny side was out and i found a rip i think the bellows were put in back wards? It should be the textured side facing out correct and the shiny side in ?

@edwardabrahamiii3742 3 жыл бұрын

Got a dumb question for you would you be able to run like a ves cylinder on 1 side and a non ves on the other??

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

Theoretically, yes it would run. but I never would.

@edwardabrahamiii3742 3 жыл бұрын

@@AKproXR should try do a scientific test show us what it would run like and how long it would run you got nothing but parts parts parte

@chrisstoner7400 3 жыл бұрын

Can i buy s 700 non ves motor

@BilThomas 8 ай бұрын

now say you’d a ves cylinder head sitting around would it be worth it to swap it onto a older non ves 700 now obviously won’t know exact numbers but do you have a rough idea of how much an increase in power that would make ? Assuming probably have to dial it in tune carbs n stuff etc but I’m an idiot when it comes to this stuff so sorry if my questions convoluted thanks .

@AKproXR 8 ай бұрын

Hard to tell an exact number, but the early VES 700’s made near 10HP more then the non ves 700’s. But that is with higher CR heads, different timing, different carbs etc later ves 700’s (2003+) made around 5hp more then a non ves. The 700 VES port layout is what a lot of people used as “trail porting” for non ves 700’s. So there are gains from the swap, but an exact number is unknown.

@BilThomas 8 ай бұрын

@@AKproXR thanks for the info I own a few old Polaris sleds n I’ve never really been a Polaris guy so trying to find out as much as I can about these things thanks again !

@gabecoolidge6825 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2003 SKS 700 ves. does anyone know if running castrol oil clogs the powervalves? Keep up the good content @AKproXR

@brandonpierce9868 3 жыл бұрын

Exhaust valves get dirty much faster if you're running conventional oil. Run a synthetic oil or just clean them every season

@randylarocque8727 2 жыл бұрын

Running regular fuel compared to premium gums them up a lot faster also

@MidnightPolaris800 3 жыл бұрын

Was quieter than my 01 700. Forgot to add that in

@Snotric 3 жыл бұрын

I'm living in Sweden, what's your premium fuel rated at?

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

Mine is 90 octane

@Snotric 3 жыл бұрын

@@AKproXR Ok i have 95 and 98 here but i think that's 91 and 93 over there, should be ok running 95 rhen

@chevyman273 3 жыл бұрын

93 octane in the USA

@rockroll4897 3 жыл бұрын

What's the highest miles anyone's has come across on stock 600 or 700 big block

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure, but the most iv personally had was well over 10K on a 98 700. It out lived 3 sleds, and I never rebuilt it. Finally sold it when it was in a 01 prox chassis

@rockroll4897 3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever messed with fugi triples or just twins cause I got a question nobody on any forum I'm part of on Facebook can give a decent answer lol

@AKproXR 3 жыл бұрын

Had a few xlt/xcr’s, storm and ultras. I’m not super knowledgeable on them though.

@rockroll4897 3 жыл бұрын

Well , it's more of a general sled question, Got 95 xlt on trade runs strong pulls good but let go of throttle and engine braking slows down way quicker than it should , so speedo doesn't work , in your experience would a failing driveshaft bearring have symtoms like this ? Thanks for your time

@MrBakerzz Жыл бұрын

I got a 98 xc 700 bb here in alberta speedo quit working at 11,900miles. Still riding it and cant wait for the snow to fly!! Original engine