Yeah im absolutely with Ed. The lords take was bad.

Listening to Ollie trying to justify that Charlotte Owen deserves to be a member of the Lords makes me think this pubcast has already jumped the shark.

I’ve never heard a worse take that some kid who did a 2 week’s work experience getting pissed at illegal parties getting into the Lords is deserved

This podcast is absolutely insane, whoever edits this is genuinely unhinged for leaving some of this stuff in. It's great keep it up!

Ollie, I can't believe you're so relaxed about Charlotte Owen being elevated to the Lords! Of course her age is relevant, what experience and 'wisdom' can she bring? A lifetime peerage, ie, overseeing our laws, sorry but it's disgraceful.

Starmer didn't have to waste the remaining five questions arguing about Johnsons honours list but I do give a shit about that honours list. It's another slap in the face and it's another example of yet more self serving cronyism. Its particularly offensive that a young woman, who was essentially a temp for an incredibly brief period in the most chaotic and corrupt Government, has now been elevated to a prestigious position for life without ever having earned it, its infuriating.

Many of us do give"give a shit" about the honours list. It's a slap in the face & us the tax payer pays for their unelected time.

I’m with Ed, set a high bar for peerages

my god acting at 10:50 like being in the Lords, as a legislature, is not really any different to being an employee in Downing Street because "they're both making laws" is just...no they're not "both making laws" this is so braindead. Being employed by an MP is not the same as being an MP just because both technically work in politics. So much of this felt like disingenuous pedantry.

No Starmer isn't accusing the civil service of being incompetent its the fact that yet again the tories are blatantly helping their mates...

Oli's take on Charlotte Owen is his origin story of becoming a super villian/Tory.

They’re completely wrong to equate Starmer’s knighthood to Johnson appointing his political allies to the lords. One is an award for recognising public service and the other is giving your mate a paid job for life.

The dismissal towards Ed when his Charlotte Owen take is absolutely correct. Crikey.

"You'd have to thumb that one in ... " ... This podcast should have 5 million subscribers if voters knew what was good for them. Greetings from Prague, CZ

Agree with Ed on the honours list. Think you guys are sometimes a bit blinded by your dislike of Starmer.

I agree with Ed 'The Golden Boy' Campbell. The conservative brand is over. In the public consiousness a 'young tory' is pretty much an oxymoron. People are catching on that they can change the face but it's still the same beast.

Has someone spiked the pints this week?

Ava, thank you for so perfectly articulating what happens to women, how we are shamed and silenced from reporting sexual harassment & rape. In other workplaces too, it happens all the time, even away from bars and booze. Sorry Ed, It’s not unique, abusers will use any power over ppl in any situations they can. Also to be fair guys, reacting as tho dickpics are taboo/a joke, when your coworker is getting unsolicited explicit photos sent to her personal phone daily it seems, really underplayed this intrusive harassment. Esp going straight into Ava saying her recollection of being assaulted already had other men in the comments calling her a ‘liar’ ‘attention seeker’ etc. You must be supportive of her even if she’s dealing w it so well bc she’s taking that intrusion from men, where you don’t have to, for doing the same job.

Dr Sarah Wollaston raised the issues of the culture of harassment at Westminster. She lost her seat and was not supported.

Thank you Ava, it's not a laughing matter but if you point and laugh they usually go away.

This podcast really has become my highlight of the day, mainly due to Ava's railroading of the whole thing by talking about dick pics or other general innapropriate content. Please keep this up, it's completely apt for the current state of our governing peers.

If Charlotte Owen should get a peerage, then so should every keyworker - who did a hell of a lot more then her. She's otherwise Boris' daughter or some other reason as to why she can blackmail Boris Johnson

Shami Chakrabarti? Is he for real? She deserved her peerage hands down.

Honours should be given to community leaders and volunteers who help others get through the cost of living crisis.

Who thinks her pearage is to keep her mouth shut ..... Ya know Boris and Women ?

Fucking hell Oli! Owen should not be anywhere near the House of Lords. She probably got her internship by her Dad knowing a Tory minister and then got her "adviser" role because Johnson fancied her.

I think you mean "The bar should be set higher," not 'the barrier". But I approve the thought.

The House of Hypocrites. Wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.

Johnson should not get a leaving honours list. He should be in prison!

Such a fun podcast to watch again, crying of laughter watching you rinse each other!

I understand Ollie's trolling because the Lords are essentially bs, but I think he's forgetting this is being put out as a podcast/KZfaq? It's not good listening - strong finish though

“We’ll bleep it out, don’t worry” “I was gonna say ‘cunted’” 😂😂 you guys really seem like you have so much fun doing this.

Luv your channel, intelligent conversation, thanks.

If you overlook the agregious take on the house of lords this is still pretty funny

Politics Joe is the leader of the opposition to the leader of the opposition. Literally always focused on opposing Starmer. Whose side are you on??

The honours stuff is rather frustrating to be wasting PMQ questions on. I much rather the skyrocketing mortgages/rents, food etc etc

The barrier to bring a sitting member of the House of Lords should be a demonstrable body of employment experience to support you bring able to scrutinise laws being proposed. It's appallingly bad to use a peerage as a thank you for doing allow level administrative job

perhaps some of the younger persons put forward for honours paid lip service to boris in the office

The PoliticsJOE podcast, discussing the body politic.

Has anyone else noticed the similarities between Charlotte Owen and Jennifer Arcuri, one has to wonder what special services she offered to Johnson to be nominated for a Life Peerage.

Jesus Christ this is utterly painful.

Love this podcast - keep it coming 🤣

31:23 that sounds like just about every teacher I’ve ever had when they’re upset lol

Westminister was formed as a form of Gentleman's club. The fact there are bars is stupid. In most jobs being drunk ( or even partially) at your place of work would get you dismissed. Close the bars.

I love that you did put this on KZfaq without editing out all the funniest bits.

I would ask Starmer if HE was so tough why did the Labour party abstain on the protest bill?

I worked for the DWP in 2005 where's my peerage????!!!!!

Why is the impact of interest rates on people paying rent always ignored. Mortgages go down when rates go down, rents never go down.

It seems to be forgotten that Sunak was also fined for Partygate.

5 seconds spent on everyone acknowledging that grenfell was a tragedy and most importantly is still yet to see justice for the victims. The rest of it spend on who made the list, who made it into the cool night club. Especially coming from this idiot Keir WHO WAS A PROSECUTOR. His job as a prosecutor, and his stance is, oh, 6 years later no justice for the victims, what can you do. how about you dedicate some time on dealing with that personally since your previous job was that of A PROSECUTOR.

Yes, believing the victims is key! No alcohol, yes! Also declaring an interest and not voting if you have one eg landlord, director etc.

29:44 The look of horror on Oli's face followed by "It's so hairy" was amazing

31:14 "Can't put this on KZfaq". And yet, thankfully, here we are :)

Suank and Starmer collide....Like two pieces of plywood gluing together

Love Ed losing the plot on HoL.... I would've done the same

"The economy is so cunted" i need this on a teeshirt 😅

This episode made me thumb into being a fan of the channel

Just proves reform of the Lords is over-due.

Thumb that one in........class

Don't know about anyone else but I'd watch/listen to a regular podcast of just Oli Ava and Ed chatting about normal stuff instead of politics, they just have decent banter.

By Ollie's weird definition of public service worthy of a life peerage, any temp that made tea in number 10 should get one whilst all healthcare workers, emergency services workers, and all the other people who are actually essential to the functioning of our society don't make the bar lol

"Fucking clearly !" ... ha ha, that has my OJ all over my t-shirt ha ha

I think the beers are VERY needed lol

Does Joe have an editor?? Where can I apply!?

A novel verse form, the one-line limerick - "There was a young lady called Charlotte." Out of curiosity, was she head girl at school?

I like Steven Flynn’s “big bald heid” as well, Ed.

Best episode yet 🎉

Charlotte is BoJo's Lewinsky.

Excellent episode.

As long as you have a house of lords, you don't have a democracy - you literally have an oligarchy as you have one person helping to define the future of your government based on their own personal preferences.

Is it true that there are over 30 bars in the palace of Westminster?😵‍💫

We need fair rent regulations

Sorry, "thumb that one in". High quality observational humour

I think any kind of honour system can't be dismissed so long as it is merit based and has oversight. I don't understand why it should necessarily be a qualification for membership to the political hierarchy in the form of the House of Lords, nor will I ever think it's appropriate for anyone to provide an honour to their hairdresser, even though keeping Boris Johnson still would be akin to subduing a horny otter !!

I need to stop watching this channel - absolutely unhinged that you don’t have a problem with Charlotte Owen getting a peerage

the convention for honours should be scrapped, the people should award honours not politicians rewarding there pals...

'post your doves not your elves' - genius

Looking forward to this pubcast. I really like listening to pseudo intellectuals swear like vicky pollard like literally like ermm like like ermm like literally like like errrmm This

We're waiting out here for a serious reflection on the news, whether it's PMQs or anything else, not childish antics like someone just scored for your local team. Keep it real guys! If you want to be taken seriously then act seriously.

The whole honours/House of Lords system is flawed. Checks and balances, a second chamber, I get the value of that. But tying it to this archaic notion of knighthoods and government honours leaves us open to so much arcane tradition and corruption.

Came from listening to the podcast on another platform to say I also have weird views on the Lords!! In a sentence: Put a ceiling on the numbers and it’ll work. Then it’ll give you a long term rolling average of the interests of the executive over time, small c conservative bloc, chesterton’s fencing everything. Would make just a lovely organic check and balance on democracy. Otherwise I vote as left as I can.

Ava, millenials do not share conservative views. The are different on the environment, family make-up and society.

I wonder what has the lowest bar: things edited out of a PJ Pubcast or receiving a peerage.

this is one of ur funniest episodes

I normally like PoliticsJOE content but this is all over the place

Sod the Lords, solidarity with Ed 😅! Also, nothing wrong with the podcast format, keep it wild 🤘

Is charolt owen, bojos kid by any chance?

Maybe I should review these ******s uncensored...

👍that one up

Wouldn't it be great if, in the future, it comes out that Bojo didn't put Nadders forward for a peerage 😂

Its one thing to argue "there are bigger issues" and quite another to justify any peerage awarded by Johnson. His tenure was a slew of sleaze and corruption, and his last honours list laid that bare. Not really surprised by Ava, a little by Oli though

Yay PMQ's 🙄...

"I caught a cold at the Labour Conference. I think I drank too much on the first night" ... So in future, when Ava is sick, we'll see "Ava Santina is unwell"

WtF is a PMQ? Damn Limeys.

love podcast hate nonsense it's the politics joke podcast ladies and gentlemen

Fair play this one made me laugh with you

It has not gone too far, the senders of the Richard Portraits definitely did though

Is it international pick on Ed day?

great chat

Plot twist, is charlotte owen oli's new wife and thats why hes defending her peerage? Thats the only way his take would make any kind of sense