Why not? I have a steel cable lock for my scooter.

This! Why shouldn't we use the path when its safe to do so, if there's someone on the path I just go slow, give them a wide birth or go onto the road simple. Glad your enjoying the M4 mate!

@@bill-e6114 Hi,Max speed please??

@@huzegaming726 27-30

Yeah,constant back wheel punctures! !!!

How fast does yours go and do you mined me asking you weight please because I have the same one and in gear 3 I only get 26 and only 8.5 stone

I feel you dude, its so annoying isn't it. Took the scooter out yesterday for 5 minutes and came back me and the scoot completely covered in mud. Bring on summer!!

Fine (ticket) revenue. The UK is a police state...they want the money.

I have a theory that a lot of these similar scooters are made in the same factories, I think certain brands must specify slightly different spec at the factory using an assortment of parts like bigger battery, different suspension etc

@@bill-e6114 I will def get back to you when it arrives . Let you know etc Oct 31st -4th Nov

Would explain the 21a controller

Yep it’s fun. Today I had two bags of pretty heavy Ish shopping. Me, tall and big I got up to 27mph. On the road that’s more than enough. I use the seat. It’s looks like Kugoo it’s called H5 bought from Amazon.

Is your scooter going mate any links on it please

I don't think you will regret the standard M4 over the Pro. They are pretty much identical other than the slight bigger battery and folding mechanism. Everything else is really just cosmetic

Yeah the people have spoken I guess

Bogist has a smaller battery

Not a problem, I was thinking of a high speed test and testing the braking distance from 25mph

@@bill-e6114 would love to see that!

As long as it doesn't have the god awful drum brakes it'll be half decent at stopping. Drum brakes on scooters are a bad idea the cable comes out when you go over any bump/crack.

@@thew4rrior5code It certainly does stop well!

You too bud, must have missed you this Christmas 😆

Lies

@@pavel7284 For sure, you can get the indicator to read a higher speed by changing the P6 setting while in P-mode. This simply manipulates the assumed wheel diameter and, consequently, the algorithmically derived speed indication. However, this does absolutely nothing to the scooter's power and ACTUAL speed. However, idiots seem to fall for this crap all the time.

Should be fine, lots of people are running that upgrade. Just don't try full speed up hills and it should be okay

@RC CRAWL ITS REALLY FUN FR

Thank you and you're definitely right about the seat! I'll have another video soon on how it is at climbing hills

The seat I had on the standard M4 was shocking couldn't hold my weight! Prefer scooters without the seat more deck room

@@thew4rrior5code i see.its just that hitting a pot hole at 30mph standing up is a bit scary for me

How's it safer! 🤨 Stood up you have better visibility and a better grip on the bars, with the ability to jump off if needed, sat down your stuck

@@kevindarkstar The same way that bikes are safer. With a lower center of gravity your less likely to be thrown off after an encounter with a large potholes

Good tips here. More volts equals more speed hence when the voltage drops so does the speed. Fully charged its noticeably faster

Hopefully Kugoo have sorted the problem with the Booster, I would say go with that. Has more than enough power to pull you up most hills(around 2.7kw on full charge) Beware though as it is very fast on pick up for a first scooter and it comes with a seat. Its not as portable as an M4 though so its bit of a trade off. I love the M4 for practicality, just needs a little bit more torque. Maybe take a look at the Solar P1 too

I agree. I used slime, going strong still after a hundred or so miles

Where and how can I get one in the uk please guys?

Thanks bud, I paid £600 on ebay but I've just looked and there is a listing for £550 if you don't mind waiting a while for it. Or there is one for £575 and one at £610 both with quicker delivery

@@bill-e6114 okay brill thanks mate will have to check em all out 👍

@@joshb6095 buy from amazon you can pick one up cheaper

Thanks man! They are really good for the money... granted they have their issues but what scooter doesn't. Glad I could help and sway you over from the M365. I don't think you'll regret it. Your right bud, definitely a lot of haters out there and it really gives you a buzz when some ones really smiling as you whiz past them 😀

M4 pro arrives tomorrow 😊👍

What ah does your m4 have?

@@gtjust8188 Its apparently 13.5ah, or that's what the battery says. It does seem about right though

Cool, thats same as mine 👍

Its definitely doable, finding a battery the right dimensions is the issue. I might venture into making my own to see how much I can stuff in there

@@bill-e6114 sounds good if I am to buy this scooter it's because of your video I defo want this scooter I just worry about endurance not so much speed I probably won't go beyond 25 mph it's all about the battery. Good luck with that and make another video if you succeed 👍

Ime superstitious ATM because I just paid for a Eddie Van halen signature guitar and he's just popped his cloggs🎸🤔

@@freddy512 If its about endurance then definitely buy the Pro as its a slightly bigger battery over the standard M4. If you don't go fast, 20+ miles is definitely achievable and that's more than enough for my uses. One day I'll do a range test. It would just be nice to see this scooter with a pack that could easily go 50 miles

@@bill-e6114 yes definitely 👍

Hi there, yes working better than ever. Cruise control can be turned on in the displays menu. Not a fan of this though

@@bill-e6114 any trouble from the police driving round ?

@@LidlCarPark No not at all yet. If you stay wary of your speed and not on the pavement I think its fine and they'll ignore you. But if I do have any trouble it'll be documented cause I'm always filming

@@bill-e6114 just watching all your vids as i reply 😁 thanks

Maybe its jealousy...more LED on this than some police cars, I imagine.

Your welcome, no the tyres aren't tubeless. I have just put some slime in there and pumped them up to 45 psi and not one puncture yet

@@bill-e6114 , thanks. Enjoyed your second video. Trying to locate this scooter in Australia.

Yes your right, there is no difference really in torque or anything that I have noticed between gear 1, 2 and 3 except for speed. You can modulate speed anyway with the throttle in gear 2 and 3, so I rarely use gear 1

No Problem Phil! I would estimate around 2kg but would have to check properly

@@bill-e6114 Quick reply! Thanks. Just trying to guage what it is like to carry. I have an S1 pro which is 12kg.. but its not the outright weight that makes it hard to carry, but just how the weight is distributed if that makes sense! Have you had any experience trying to take it on train or up a flight of stairs?

@@pianostool44 I have taken it up a flight of stairs and its really not too bad. The weight is even on this, probably due to a larger battery. It's just a lot of weight to carry with one hand(which is the only way it can be carried without it being awkward). I think you would get used to it and become slightly stronger in the process ;)

When the scooter is folded its really easy to carry up stairs i run mine up 2 flights of stairs up and down daily with ease not that heavy and folds up really well

No, its not water proof only splash proof so I wouldn't recommend riding in heavy rain. light rain is usually okay. The tyres are air tyres with innertubes

@@bill-e6114 appreciate your time and information 🎅❤️🌲

Yeah I would agree with you if your having to carry the scooter onto public transport. Point A to B is what the M4 Pro does best

I have this and the xiaomi and honestly the latch on the xiaomi did my head in I had to send it back to xiaomi for repair and went and purchased this to replace that. If it wasn’t for the latch I’d still keep the xiaomi as it did the job. But the speed increase is definitely worth it.

Around 20-25 miles in warm weather

Ebay buddy

@@bill-e6114 there is a lot of scams on eBay though. That’s what I’m worried about do I don’t know if I am better off buying off amazon I’m not sure. What do you think.

@@callumdavis1631 You've got protection on both ebay and amazon bud. Most of them sellers are just dropshipping from Poland anyway

No problem, If you open the bottom of the deck the battery should be labelled.. but then again they can always change a label to whatever they want

@@bill-e6114 thank you so much. Do you know about how many kilometres average can you drive with 16?

I would say around 40 to 50km from a full charge

@@bill-e6114 thank you...🌷🌷🌷🌷

Maybe go with a used one with the older screen, lots of the newer ones have an issue with the front motor. Apart from that issue, they are a brilliant scooter

@@bill-e6114 yes the old stock worked fine anyway I've still got my m4 for now

It's really not an off-roader. More a scooter for finished and semi finished roads/paths. For this purpose, it's near perfect. It's lower center of gravity helps with stability, but the downside it that there is less clearance and suspension travel. Always trade-offs. Joe Biden should be issued this scooter (with seat) to avoid his mountain bike mishaps.

I changed the handlebars to non foldable mtb ones for more stability. Only thing so far is a lost bolt on the bottom of the seat

@@bill-e6114 Thank you for info! What about stem and folding? I heard it has problem with wobbly stem. Do You experience any of this?

@@Joutubb3r Yeah sorry, the stem too. But its an easy fix and mine has been solid since its been tightened

@@bill-e6114 What did You do to get it tight and solid?

@@Joutubb3r Take a look at one of my latest vids, I show how to tighten the stem

Definitely a full face helmet and gloves, that's what I have. Remember these scooters are basically mopeds, come off at 20mph plus and land on your chin and its game over man

Came off my m365 at top speed 3 months ago and badly bruised my femur (still have a lump) along with severe whiplash, helmet and gloves defo saved me from more serious injuries 👌

@@gtjust8188 Gospel🙏 Always wear protection😁

Amazon and Ebay have them in stock

Hmm not in parallel unless you add an identical battery to what is in the deck, you can use any other 48v battery but you must unplug the deck battery first

You are correct, it is!

Will do one soon buddy. I have so far, tightened everything I can and realigned the disk brake caliper. I've had the wheel off already to see how the stem tightens but there is nothing on the pro compared to the standard M4 that you can tighten. Looks like we may be stuck with a slightly wobbly stem. Let me know how yours is once you've unboxed it👍

@@bill-e6114 I've just set mine up and really wobbly stem .........surely there has to be a solution to this ?????

@@adampatrick6369 There is, I've looked into this and it seems there is a washer missing on the the stem from factory. This requires taking the handlebars off and getting access to a bolt via extension bars. As soon as I've sorted, I will put a video up about it

Just finishing up the next vid!

@@bill-e6114 can't wait to see it

I did at first but not so much now on this one. I have had and am having issues on the g booster though and they have the same brakes

Yes I agree the little scooters are so much more portable and unobtrusive, suppose its a trade off. I would like to get my hands on an M5 eventually to try

Press and HOLD both Power On/Off and the Mode button, simultaneously. The LCD display will go into "P-mode". I believe P99 is the factory reset. P2 - 0 (0 - kilometers, 1 - miles) P3 - 48 (battery voltage, don't touch) P4 - 1 (shutdown in minutes, 0 ,no shut down, 1 to 60mins P6 - 9 (wheel diameter in inches, only change if wheel size changed) P7 - 30 (number of magnets in the motor - DON'T CHANGE, doesn't give more power etc) P9 - kick start on/off P10 - DON'T CHANGE P15 - 100 (maximum power in percent) P16 - 0 (cruise control, on/off) P99 - Factory Reset D0 - total scooter mileage with the possibility of zeroing.

Around 20 miles

@@bill-e6114 alright sweet so a couple of hours out if it i was in 2 minds to get a electric dirt bike or electric scooter aha

Yeah sounds about right. Dirt bikes are definitely more bait on the street though

Of course, if I get given one to do a review. Otherwise I'll just be riding the M4 Pro until it dies and then buy the G Max as a replacement

Would you be able to buy one or have you recently bought a m4 pro

@@tcracing5639 yes I've just recently bought the M4 Pro. If funds allow I will buy the G Max or G Booster next

Ok please get the g max if you come to choosing thanks

😂😂😂

Hi again bud! Thank you so much! The seller I bought off has no more in stock right now. I would recommend searching eBay for "UK only" listings to find sellers that have stock in the UK as your protected with PayPal and eBay. The RGB lights switch on with the main lights and there is no way to turn them off without opening the scooter. Hope I've been of some assistance🙇‍♂️

Yes buddy I've got it, not tried top speed yet because of the weather but its a fast machine. Acceleration feels like its maybe 3 times quicker than the booster, its insane!!

@@bill-e6114 wow I'll look forward to your video 📹 did you get the 5000 watts or 5600 Watts ?

I got the 5600w, Its almost too quick. If you use seat and give it full throttle it has stupid torquesteer thats hard to control. Did you get the solar?

Glad to hear you are having fun mate 👍 I want the viper but l haven't really even been out on my kugoo for the last month, as the police are been a real pain in the arse, to most people with scooters, I've seen 4 people get £250 fines and 1 have his scooter taken off him, so l don't really use it at the moment, when things settle down I'll consider it.

Man that's crap! Well let's just say, the viper has enough power to get you out of trouble, should you need it to 😃 But if it gets taken off you thats a lot of money down the drain. It makes me mad that they are not just legal like 99% of other countries. Hopefully things will ease up soon

Yes, fully adjustable! he will be fine with this scooter

These batteries are 54.6v when fully charged, so if I travel some distance let's say 3 miles I and lose 3 volts off my battery voltage it is then at 51.6v. So that tells me I used around 20% of my batteries capacity. These batteries are empty at around 40v

@@bill-e6114 thanks can’t wait to get mine 😁

Geek buying isn't the best place try this www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-Electric-Scooter-Latest-Version-Kugoo-M4-Pro-16ah-Battery-1Y-Warranty-/313308457169?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Usually 20-25 miles but it depends how you ride it

Definitely! Around 20 miles I get with mixed speeds, If you take it easy quite some more. Newer ones have bigger batteries now

@@bill-e6114 ok sweet! Thanks for the reply. I usually get around 20 miles on my xiaomi also, so I’d be after a bigger upgrade in battery size but may still consider m4 pro. Once again thanks for the help

@@bill-e6114 bro what about the Gbooster is that better for range and speed

I feel the same, hopefully people will get over it soon, they are going to be a common sight in the future and its something they will have to get used to like cyclists

I would be weary whether its an actual Kugoo scooter or just a replica. Saying that there are many chinese scooters that look like the M4 but branded differently and I'm sure they are all possibly great scooters

It seems like it is. If you buy it just make sure you pay with Paypal to ensure your protected and can get your money back if anything goes wrong

@@bill-e6114 the website doesn't accept paypal but they do trade assurance that is if i buy it the person i buy it from wont receive the money until my item has arrived and if it isn't as described then i will get a full refund i also get a 1 year warranty so do you think i should buy it even though they don't accept PayPal but they have trade assurance?

@@faizaanagario1483 I personally, would not trust it without Paypal. I have heard some horror stories about the way Alibaba works with disputes. The choice is yours though, report back if you do buy from there and let me know how it went

@@bill-e6114 OK i will

I have never ridden an M365 Pro or the standard M4 but I will answer as best I can. The M4 Pro suspension is very good for what it is and it handles potholes really well with 10" high and 3" wide nobbly air filled tyres. My only problems are the looseness on the stem which I can't workout how to tighten yet, because of this it can feel a bit rickety at times. It is heavier than Xiaomi so you'll definitely notice that when carrying it around. I don't think you'll be disappointed if you can put up with these issues. Its faster and will go further

Billy Reeves do you think the stem is a hazard? there’s been stories of stems on other branded scooters failing etc

@@meganharris4751 personally no, but I would prefer if it wasn't like this

Billy Reeves I think all foldable scooters have stem play (wobble) in them you can't get a perfectly still stem unless it's not foldable.

@@thew4rrior5code I've literally just refunded my brand new m365 pro 2 and am going to get a kugoo m4 pro but I will say the best feature was the folding stem system on m365 was solid as considering no suspension 🤷‍♂️

No never been stopped, I would say unless you know whats behind you always go around 15mph. It could be either or both, but more likely they will send you on your way with a telling off. Though I've heard its best just not to stop as they can't really chase you

@@bill-e6114 thanks man, just sold my aovo Pro and got a kugoo m4 kirin, not the pro. Seems good, the stem seems fragile though and bends forward when breaking. I just leave the lights off and take a quiet route

@@bill-e6114 went to go home on it from work last night and it just wouldn't turn on 🤣 I was dreading this when making my purchase because of the cheap build quality, I think I've whittled it down to a faulty controller, so I've ordered a replacement. Hopefully this fixes the issue cause its costing me an arm and leg in taxis everyday

@@WhiteHat-hi4gx Sorry to hear that mate, is there any sign of water inside the deck or controller? I've put a slightly stronger controller and display on mine for more power and reliability. Wires up differently but certainly worth it as it transforms the scooter

@@bill-e6114 I only have the stock m4 kirin, not the pro, its a 500watt motor, I don't know if I can even upgrade? I watched your other vid where you upgraded, but I didn't know if it was compatible with mine? I haven't opened up the deck, looks like a spaceship mate, didn't wanna go playing with stuff I don't really know about

Yeah The M4 is what it is.. a budget scooter thats faster than most others. Its only just over 20kg where as that ff is more than twice the weight. Solar looks good but you should take a look at Viper scooters their dual motor range is impressive and come with decent named cell batteries. Basically the same scooter but more powerful! viperscooters.com/product/viper-duel-5000w-60v-35ah-samsung-lithium-electric-scooter

@@bill-e6114 ohhh thanks il pop that link in my folder I have just got the ff I've got a control box and 2 3000w flj motors coming and some slicks but when I either sell or it dies il definitely be looking at the viper range I've ordered a fuw tatu batteries 6s ones but a bunch il have to up the wattage for the estimated 6000w it should go faster than a crackhead on payday to his dealers lol I have had a ride today its hitting 56mph not bad but it should do a ton with the mods I've got a dualtron too de restricted it its scary but good I've spent a small fortune on e scooters il find the perfect one one day I want a electric superbike some Chinese builds look nice but need a lot of work I'm happy for now and zero make a nice bike too the touring one with the panniers is awesome too ahhh I just want my garage to have like 10 seriously nice electric bikes but I'm not exactly rich enough.. Yet lol cheers for the reply most channels just don't reply but you went out ur way to give me your time and the link much appreciated fellow e biker 😝💯🙏🙏have a fantastic Christmas too this is nice for the price my s1 was kina fun when I sorted it with a seat and dual wheels bloody difficult build got 750 for that tho went towards the ff Samsung batterys whaaat edit had not a single clue they were making pack big enough

No problem mate, they look like good value and there's a sale on currently. Modding it already!? Your like me, constantly wanting more. I've seen the flj's and may be getting 2 for my M4. Are you upping up your voltage to 80v? That will see you 80mph I bet depending on your controllers. Might need over 200amps to get there though and thats nearly 20,000w's😲 M4 is a good scooter but I want 6kw out of it so I'll be converting to dual motor 60v with 2 50amp controllers next year. Yes, I believe they must be using 21700s cells as they are more energy dense. You have a good Christmas too buddy😀

@@bill-e6114 lol its quick enough but I know I can get it screaming along the way it should some flj stuffs 7000w well apparently so I was just going to get a battery from them and a set of wheels

Your charger will take as long as it needs to charge and then will automatically stop charging once the battery voltage is at around 54.6v. The charger stops when it hits full charge, so no need to worry about it too much. Just supervise it whilst charging and don't charge overnight

Thanks for your replay...much appreciated. The batteries are different than phone batteries. Are chances that this type of the batteries that are inside of an scooter to not have "memory"

@@bill-e6114 it s about first charge not normal charge

Yeah that goes for the first charge, cells will balance at the end because of the bms and thats what you need to do on a first charge. Bms is like the battery computer that keeps it healthy. The charger can only go to 54.6v so the battery can't be overcharged. Normal charges to 90% will help the battery last longer, try to never empty the battery completely as that can damage the battery

@@bill-e6114 so nice from to help me with so precious informations.. Deeply thanks!!

On ebay mate

Cheers mate

Not at all its a fairly big sized scooter and the handlebars and seat are height adjustable

@@bill-e6114 👍👍 thanks for the quick reply, where did you buy your scooter from if you mind me asking ?

Got it from a seller on ebay, I don't think they have anymore left

@@bill-e6114 👍👍👍

😆😆😆 they caught me on a good day 😅

Around 20 miles

Sure! What type of site?

Definitely... this!

On gear 2 which is 16-20mph around 25 miles

Just got mine USA top 42

There doesn't look to be a way to activate it. It seems this has been locked out on the zero type display

@@bill-e6114 You should activate it I know there is, try to set the dashboard or visit some of our kugoo fanatics page on fb, they can help you about that...

It should be P17 in the settings menu but its locked out along with lots of other settings that would be useful, I have been trying to look at ways of fully resetting the controller but haven't come up with anything yet. Will have a look on fb

@@bill-e6114 here is the link to everything you need to know about the display settings and everything just watch this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/had9l8yanJiWm4E.html

@@bill-e6114 It is P16, choose 1 to activate Cruise Control :)

Wish I was 62kg lol. You'll definitely get 20-25 miles range if you aren't going for top speed runs everywhere. You'll also be able to achieve a higher top speed than me

I'm planning on using it to deliver groceries for the elderly around my area and hopefully go self employed with it

@@Hendaz89 Nice! Just keep it in gear 1 and 2 and don't full throttle too much and I would say you'll go further than 25 miles

I received my kugoo m4 today I leave the seat on and its absolutely awesome fun even in gear 2

@@Hendaz89 Glad to hear bud just keep tightening everything as you go to keep it safe

It does but honestly I am just living with it for now until I completely dismantle it and rebuild it

@@bill-e6114yeah I just bought one rode it for the first time today and it does wobble but I don't mind it. But when I turn the lights on it keeps beeping and the rear light keeps flashing,would you know how to fix that?

@@brandonbird9940 It sounds like that switch panel on the left has been wired up wrong

@@bill-e6114 would you suggest replugging the cables together?

@@brandonbird9940 I am not sure, Facebook has some good groups for this scooter. Maybe you could post there and you will get a more in depth answer