Muzzle Brake VS. Silencer - Federal VS. Norma

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Precision Rifle Network

Precision Rifle Network

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6.5 Creedmoor testing happening today on precision rifle network. This rifle is for NRL Hunter competitions and I wanted to see what was better for me between muzzle brake and silencer, and also federal gold medal match 130 and Norma golden target 130. Surprising results to say the least!
Leave a comment with your choice between a brake or a suppressor.
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0:00 The problem
0:42 sponsor message
1:26 about the rifle
2:24 The major issue
3:45 First shot groups
5:58 Norma groups
7:28 KGM silencer shots
10:30 Downrange paper
12:32 Paper at 250Y
14:55 BC explained
16:34 Amazing group at 250Y
17:26 Final thoughts

Пікірлер: 65
@backfire
@backfire 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the vid. I’m 100% with you on the muzzle brake thing. MY EARS RING 100% of the time with a brake even with muffs on. Tried a dozen muffs and none are quite protective enough for me. I have to wear plugs AND muffs or it damages my hearing.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment brother!
@aaron.from.winchester6744
@aaron.from.winchester6744 2 ай бұрын
A suppresser is always more accurate than anything else. Two reasons are 1. It removes the gasses that cause the round to slightly wobble as it exits the muzzle 2. It acts as a barrel dampener.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@quintonhays371
@quintonhays371 2 ай бұрын
Loved the video but will say this. We needed that rain here in Missouri. Seems like itll rain for like a week or two then wont rain for months.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
very true, we did/do need the rain.
@wisesage3289
@wisesage3289 2 ай бұрын
Agreed on the brake. Most of my practice is indoors, so makes the brake painful. 😊
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!
@joquin4618
@joquin4618 2 ай бұрын
Suppressor with a cover for the win. Can’t stand muzzle brakes especially indoors
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Right on
@thelonggunner762
@thelonggunner762 2 ай бұрын
I've definitely leaned towards suppressors compared to brakes in the last two years. When i got done shooting on a long day with a brake i felt like i had a sinus infection or something in the front of my face. No such problems with the cans.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
yes! that's exactly what I mean. sucks.
@brandoncoates7860
@brandoncoates7860 2 ай бұрын
The Norma ammo is too stringy to use IMO. Titanium and aluminum cans cause mirage much faster than steel, a cover would benefit you significantly. It’s also clear that your rifle likes to be a little warm with the GMM. Great shooting!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and for watching.
@mimicocto8
@mimicocto8 2 ай бұрын
Brake is definitely not a user friendly device, even if it's a tunable muzzle brake. Using ear pro doesn't always protect your hearing unless you "layer" it. Suppresser is much more entertaining to use and it does protect your hearing. Depending on your harmonics it can increase accuracy or not. I'm now convinced that suppressers are the way to go.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
I dig it. Thanks for the reply.
@hopewilliams6705
@hopewilliams6705 2 ай бұрын
I already used your code at my machine! Thanks
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Cool 👍
@chrisfarr9494
@chrisfarr9494 2 ай бұрын
I like using a can , I use 3D printed TI can over a AI brake , BUT if you want big recoil reduction you need to use a brake , I think for precision a 3D TI can is hard to beat . Also have found light weight cans are less prone to undoing/ unscrewing while shooting .
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting.
@RTR_Precision
@RTR_Precision 2 ай бұрын
I too just swapped to the R30K for NRLH. See ya at the Pioneer match!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Nice 👍
@edj9978
@edj9978 2 ай бұрын
I also wanted to run my suppresser on my carbon fiber barrel, until I ran 8 rd strings with both the can and the brake. the Can opened up dramatically along with flyer. I will be using my brake on my carbon fiber barrel much to my displeasure.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
interesting. do you think it has anything to do with heat?
@edj9978
@edj9978 2 ай бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I kind of do I am going to try a different can and see what happens. like you I would like to run the can for all the right reasons but a 2 moa gun will not work for me. with the brake it is a 10 rd sub moa gun. with the can it is a 3 to 5 rd sub moa then rd 4 to 7 it rapidly opens to a 2 or more moa gun. I have a banish 30 so I am going to try shortening from a 9" to a 7" and see. then I May try a flow thru can.
@dragonrider385
@dragonrider385 2 ай бұрын
very good 😃👍
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@djalluget6870
@djalluget6870 2 ай бұрын
Depends on caliber for me. The smaller one the can is a plus as recoil is minor. On the bigger the brake does a lot more for you.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
yep, fair point.
@petethomas5976
@petethomas5976 2 ай бұрын
Hay bud on the norma ammo the top plastic strip buy the case head snaps off so you can just pull the rounds out keep making great videos
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
man I pried at that sucker for awhile trying to break it off. LOL
@PitFitHuntFan
@PitFitHuntFan 2 ай бұрын
From where I come from, silencers are not strictly regulated so I have the option of having a lot and selecting the one that improves accuracy and in my SBR rimfire rifles, it even improves accuracy and velocity and has no noticeable point of impact shift. The longer thicker silencers though, 10 inch + that I have selected and used that does not affect accuracy but slows down velocity and lowers POI. I think If you get lucky your silencer might have the effect of a tuner on your gun depending on chance and a lot of factors. The extreme accuracy bench shooters precision crowd here though do not use silencers and use either compensators or tuners instead. Me I’m more of a mid to long range rimfire and center fire precision hunter. I always go for earshots because I find the meat on selected food sized quarry tastes better and the meat is generally more tender if I drop them quick with a ear/head shot. 😁
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Sweet! Thanks for watching.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 2 ай бұрын
My 338 Lapua is making me consider a silencer. Even with double hearing protection the brake on it is really loud. I feel bad for the people on the range with me because if it's loud for me it's really loud for the people around me.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Crazy loud
@mattchilders3123
@mattchilders3123 2 ай бұрын
Suppressor. I hate the blow back from the brake far more than the recoil.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
agree
@charlesmullins3238
@charlesmullins3238 2 ай бұрын
Damn if that ain’t spot on components I’m wantin to put together for my own prs rig…just got that 22x lht and 21oz is what we want if we’re packin a rifle…tried the Winchester long range expedition 142ablr 6.5creed..? I zeroed buddies with 15rdd of a bc and kept 5 for if I get a creed….good lookin factory stuff…✌🏻matt
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@hersheyroseman4508
@hersheyroseman4508 2 ай бұрын
You should re do this test bust time the ports on the r30k so it acts like a muzzle break!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I do need to play with the ports still. 👍
@Merk21
@Merk21 2 ай бұрын
Not a competitor (yet), but suppressors always. They make shooting so much more enjoyable than getting rattled around by a brake 😁
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@jaymiller393
@jaymiller393 Ай бұрын
How’d you do in Monroe?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Ай бұрын
the NRL Hunter match? I wasn't able to go. Had covid. Simply wasn't feeling like traveling and competing for two days.
@hopewilliams6705
@hopewilliams6705 2 ай бұрын
Yes the brakes tend to pound my head also
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply
@michaelficarro2591
@michaelficarro2591 2 ай бұрын
I know you touched on it in the vid, but wouldn't it be better to tweak the MV at those ranges and wait until you can shoot past 8-900 to tweak the BC? The bullets BC really doesn't come into play at 250 yds....
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Generally, that’s true, but I’ve become increasingly ok with tweaking bc simply because it’s never precise out of the box. Muzzle velocity is “certain” …with few exceptions.
@michaelficarro2591
@michaelficarro2591 2 ай бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork gotcha....
@PassionforRifles
@PassionforRifles 2 ай бұрын
Federal for the Win⚡💥⚡💥⚡💥
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
thanks
@MrMantraMan
@MrMantraMan 11 күн бұрын
Suppressor
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 11 күн бұрын
Silencer is the technical term per the ATF and all govt literature. Clearly that’s silly since we know it doesn’t actually silence the sound.
@williambundick349
@williambundick349 2 ай бұрын
I use a break but it’s only because I refuse to pay the government for permission to own something that shouldn’t be regulated
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
valid
@marvincoley3544
@marvincoley3544 2 ай бұрын
Im a suppressor guy. Because i have 6
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
I’m definitely becoming a fan.
@TheToecutter81
@TheToecutter81 2 ай бұрын
I’m civilized so a can thank you
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@mikekuzia2909
@mikekuzia2909 2 ай бұрын
Run the can.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I agree.
@djalluget6870
@djalluget6870 2 ай бұрын
Oh you need 160gr for the cm. lol. 130 is good.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
130 seems to work well
@djalluget6870
@djalluget6870 2 ай бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I ran 123’s and 130’s for years.
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