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Prime Jordan vs Prime LeBron: Who’s The G.O.A.T.?!?

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As we conclude watching "The Last Dance," let's settle the debate once and for all. Was Michael Jordan better than LeBron James? Do we really have to wait til LeBron's career is completely over? Let us know in the comments! #LastDance #MichaelJordan #LeBronJames
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@jamesmalloy1027
@jamesmalloy1027 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure this comment thread is going to be very friendly with no arguments at all!
@i_arji
@i_arji 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're wrong, and here's why...
@idontknowanametopick6333
@idontknowanametopick6333 4 жыл бұрын
James Malloy I know you are very right Michael Jordan is the goat and that's facts
@bigcountryspoundcake4513
@bigcountryspoundcake4513 4 жыл бұрын
LBJ will poop on Mike’s lawn and tell him to pick it up
@idontknowanametopick6333
@idontknowanametopick6333 4 жыл бұрын
Big country's poundcake yes
@td3798
@td3798 4 жыл бұрын
Big country's poundcake nope
@sethmackenzie2839
@sethmackenzie2839 4 жыл бұрын
i legit just watched a 13 minute video to hear “you decide”😒
@impanthering
@impanthering 4 жыл бұрын
lmaoooo
@mikealaniz7236
@mikealaniz7236 4 жыл бұрын
Its true. Its not like hes the final decider on whos the goat. Its just another opinion. But he made it obvious who his choice is by the last line that he said and faded out on Jordan.
@sethmackenzie2839
@sethmackenzie2839 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Alaniz wait what i listened back and i didnt hear him say jordan unless you interpreted “you in” to jor-dan
@mikealaniz7236
@mikealaniz7236 4 жыл бұрын
@@sethmackenzie2839 "im prepared to say who i choose, even if its by the slightest of hairs" and fades on Jordan. That seems pretty obvious to me he chooses Jordan. Besides its the right answer because Jordan never choked in the finals.
@sethmackenzie2839
@sethmackenzie2839 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Alaniz i understand so jordan never choked in the finals and that phrase was a referance to him😂 maybe i just take things to litteraly since i never heard him say jordan
@y2shuproblem
@y2shuproblem 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan's game 6 in the 1998 NBA Finals was his greatest performance. He knew that his best chance to win was game 6 and with Pip being out, Jordan carried that team. He made all of the right plays in those final 40 seconds and sunk that dagger that cemented his legacy.
@ericciaramella1984
@ericciaramella1984 Жыл бұрын
Thinking that Jordan's last shot as a bull was what "cemented his legacy" is so cute it's hilarious.
@tomtang8708
@tomtang8708 3 жыл бұрын
MJ’s career was unreal to me, retired 3 times, so many iconic moments and achieved majority of his legacy in only 11 full seasons.
@hornetsxo4694
@hornetsxo4694 3 жыл бұрын
13 with the Bulls and 2 with the Wizards but ok.
@alexismoore2731
@alexismoore2731 3 жыл бұрын
@@hornetsxo4694 lame the man said 11 full seasons..
@hornetsxo4694
@hornetsxo4694 3 жыл бұрын
Alexis Moore MJ says he played 13 with the Bulls
@ek274
@ek274 3 жыл бұрын
@@hornetsxo4694 youre not wrong, but if you technically look at the amount he actually played, its a lil over 11 seasons worth as a bull. he only played 18 reg season games his sophomore year cus of a foot injury, not like he played his reg min when he came back either. they unleashed him in the playoffs against the celtics. he came back from retirement in '95 with like 17 games left in the reg season.
@kingkuto1792
@kingkuto1792 3 жыл бұрын
@@hornetsxo4694 nigga but 2 of those seasons weren’t fully played they were about 20 games each because of injury and his retirement
@bpdmf2798
@bpdmf2798 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the Game of Zones finale to find out. RIP Sun Kings. Your easy 8 wins will be missed.
@sadenuttie2234
@sadenuttie2234 4 жыл бұрын
BPDMF hahahaha
@gravityfel7896
@gravityfel7896 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about Sun Kings, but Sun Kings in trouble.
@jakep1979
@jakep1979 4 жыл бұрын
"He said whattt??!!"
@unclebobrules72
@unclebobrules72 4 жыл бұрын
Just in case someone do not get the joke... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gchih9iavpPblGg.html
@alankingchiu
@alankingchiu 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was King Suns
@random_dude6395
@random_dude6395 4 жыл бұрын
Easy, it's Paul Pierce!
@rumitoowavy8711
@rumitoowavy8711 4 жыл бұрын
The king!
@thanosisking7249
@thanosisking7249 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂late to the video/comment but still love the reference.
@MXEthatguy
@MXEthatguy 4 жыл бұрын
Lol not close
@MXEthatguy
@MXEthatguy 4 жыл бұрын
Jk
@aguaarch
@aguaarch 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Paul pierce name on goat debate and I like instantly 😅😂
@shadowfax8553
@shadowfax8553 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan is the GOAT and Draymond is the DONKAY
@taxiviaalfa
@taxiviaalfa 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@awesom2bemelonestar10
@awesom2bemelonestar10 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Sldumas1983
@Sldumas1983 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏😂😂😂 I salute you sir.
@vihaankadarla7734
@vihaankadarla7734 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@denniseudela411
@denniseudela411 3 жыл бұрын
@Shadow... or JACKASS
@normanlauron4102
@normanlauron4102 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen all the stats for both... at this point, I don’t care about the numbers. One thing I know for sure... no one looked better on the court (and in the air) than MJ. NO ONE.
@NVTwistedProductions
@NVTwistedProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree
@mlaverage1683
@mlaverage1683 3 жыл бұрын
@@NVTwistedProductions yup. Smoothest player in the court. He makes the game look easy.
@NVTwistedProductions
@NVTwistedProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@mlaverage1683 lebron james is not the goat..... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ad2lhc900622iYU.html
@Zett76
@Zett76 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Even though, MJ also wins the stats and accolades competition. 😁
@Moses44476ers
@Moses44476ers 3 жыл бұрын
So MJ looked better?? OK, I will buy that. MJ looked better....Lebron is better
@albertojuvina2887
@albertojuvina2887 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna sit, pick up the popcorns and enjoy the fight out here in the comments
@tonymontana7950
@tonymontana7950 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy I got to see them both play.
@kingkong6917
@kingkong6917 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with the drinks. Hahahah
@detroitplayerz
@detroitplayerz 4 жыл бұрын
🍿🥤🥤🍭🍬🍬 brought the food so we can enjoy the fight, come and take one.
@andremortonjr4688
@andremortonjr4688 4 жыл бұрын
MJ Is The Goat
@andremortonjr4688
@andremortonjr4688 4 жыл бұрын
@jason roman Hey Jason All I'm Going Too Say Is 6 In 0 VS 3 In 6 Period
@Gillymanification
@Gillymanification 4 жыл бұрын
Even if it’s by the slightest of h”AIR”s? 🤔
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 4 жыл бұрын
bwahahaha cuz, you know, 3-6 vs 6-0 is sooooo tough to understand the significance of :D
@odee2004
@odee2004 4 жыл бұрын
or the lack of it :)
@Meyr3356
@Meyr3356 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaft9000 Rings don't tell the whole story. You arent going to tell me KD is better than Lebron because he's 2-2. Or that Bill Russel is the goat because he has 11 rings.
@47hundo86
@47hundo86 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Tyo bill russel played against bus drivers,plumbers n janitors😭😂😭
@Meyr3356
@Meyr3356 4 жыл бұрын
@@47hundo86 that's my point. my point is that "rings are the only measure by which we measure greatness" is an idiodic premise, which you seem to agree with. There is a perfectly legitimate reason to call MJ the GOAT, look at his scoring titles.
@emilioreyes4159
@emilioreyes4159 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna say this: MJ averaged 35 ppg and won dpoy the same year Prime MJ was a monster!
@digimon3522
@digimon3522 3 жыл бұрын
None of that "saving yourself for offense bullshit!"
@emilioreyes4159
@emilioreyes4159 3 жыл бұрын
@@digimon3522 he played all 82 games in almost every season No load management also, and there wasn't evem that "play off mode" shit, MJ always dominated
@thetruth14444
@thetruth14444 3 жыл бұрын
PLAYED AGAINST SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS
@emilioreyes4159
@emilioreyes4159 3 жыл бұрын
@@thetruth14444 you clown lol
@digimon3522
@digimon3522 3 жыл бұрын
@@thetruth14444 yet, LeBron handpicked his teammates and played with numerous star players and still has'nt even threepeated once!!
@wendell_25
@wendell_25 3 жыл бұрын
I knew Michael Jordan even before I started watching basketball. And I was born after he retired.
@286mic
@286mic 4 жыл бұрын
It's important to note that it took MJ just 11 seasons to do a majority of his damage. It took Lebron 17 just to get close. Like the kids say nowadays, "there are levels to this".
@mrsmiw
@mrsmiw 4 жыл бұрын
Lol wut
@jeraldvincentzumel5300
@jeraldvincentzumel5300 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrsmiw you gotta be a moron if you did not understand what he said.
@bpayne3602
@bpayne3602 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but it's kinda like holding it against LBJ that he came out of high school.
@dacostasmith7131
@dacostasmith7131 4 жыл бұрын
you can't knock lebron for coming from highschool also since when is longevity a downside?
@Htiy
@Htiy 4 жыл бұрын
DaCosta Smith nobody is saying it’s a downside, it’s just EXTRA impressive what MJ did in less time
@Archin727
@Archin727 4 жыл бұрын
We all know the goat is number 23
@samuelliriano4090
@samuelliriano4090 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Draymond Green is the 🐐
@jaysun6
@jaysun6 4 жыл бұрын
Damn right🤨
@dsgcleach_25
@dsgcleach_25 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Original
@ReachxGames
@ReachxGames 4 жыл бұрын
@@dsgcleach_25 but Draymond Green isnt the original.
@jourdanwashington630
@jourdanwashington630 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely not number 6
@AHMAD-2324
@AHMAD-2324 4 жыл бұрын
Shidd, Prime MJ vs Prime any player is unfair. So I'll go 2and 3PEAT version MJ vs Prime LeBron. Still give me MJ an it ain't even close!
@mjsgoated1541
@mjsgoated1541 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, it’s definitely close.
@DJ-ys9pv
@DJ-ys9pv 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao if anything it’s definitely close
@Texan45
@Texan45 4 жыл бұрын
"Kids today are going to swear that LeBron James is the greatest ever because when you look at him play, it's hard to imagine there being someone better than that, but kids I'm here to tell you, there was someone better than that."-Max Kellerman.
@oscarking6309
@oscarking6309 4 жыл бұрын
Oww yes yes!
@camelemosbleu781
@camelemosbleu781 4 жыл бұрын
imagine if you grew up watching Wilt Chamberlain.
@johnmalana7965
@johnmalana7965 4 жыл бұрын
@@camelemosbleu781 You'd be in a wheelchair by now then
@camelemosbleu781
@camelemosbleu781 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnmalana7965 nah I'm saying, it just depends on the time zones 🤷🏽‍♂️ wilt was a beast, Kareem, Bill, pistol, The legend himself cousy, Julius Irving, Larry lol, Magic, And you already know MJ, those players don't get respect like MJ, which sucks they deserve it, just mj was in the perfect situation lol he got dog players and one of the best wing defenders ever, I would say the greatest but I'm a bit biased because of kawhi Leonard haha, and the best rebounder of all time. Dennis roddman
@oliviercolletaz5841
@oliviercolletaz5841 4 жыл бұрын
if max kellerman says it.. that puts an end to the debate foh sure
@patrickmiller1674
@patrickmiller1674 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan averages more offensive rebounds than lebron even though he averages less total rebounds. Something to think about when it comes to that statistical category.
@christiano2349
@christiano2349 4 жыл бұрын
One knows how to play without the ball in his hands. The other doesn't. Just another star that proves it
@ardinhajihil5011
@ardinhajihil5011 4 жыл бұрын
what is the stat? offensive rebounds is basically gold for guards hehe.. westbrook defensive rebounds must not count hehe but offensive rebounds well that is great
@christiano2349
@christiano2349 4 жыл бұрын
@@ardinhajihil5011 westbrook and MJ are pound for pound better rebounders. LeBron has 50lbs and 3 inches on MJ and avg just 1 more Reb lmao
@ccho907
@ccho907 4 жыл бұрын
I was shocked they have the same career blocks avg, LeBron being a foot taller
@Mike-vo9te
@Mike-vo9te 4 жыл бұрын
Mj played in an era where they were less possessions and slower pace and yet still have near better figures than lebron. Plus mj didnt choke away a chip
@champFichtnerBourne
@champFichtnerBourne 4 жыл бұрын
For me is so simple: MJ is the GOAT, and I think he'll always be. That been said, my favorite player of all time will always be LBJ. And I don't need to disrepect one to love the other. Just enyoj
@tolgabarlak6654
@tolgabarlak6654 4 жыл бұрын
I like your point.
@justicedavis5705
@justicedavis5705 4 жыл бұрын
I wish everyone was as logical as you. It's called GREATEST of All Time not favorite player. I love both players neither is my favorite player ever but I love them both and recognize their greatness.
@champFichtnerBourne
@champFichtnerBourne 4 жыл бұрын
@@justicedavis5705 So great to find people thinking like you. Yes, to be honest, MJ is very, very far from my Top 15 of favorite players, but still I know he is the GOAT, and I love watching his games and highlights. That simple. Just to know, who is your favorite player(s)?
@justicedavis5705
@justicedavis5705 4 жыл бұрын
@@champFichtnerBourne I'm a Laker fan so Kobe and Magic are my top 2 then It's probably Jordan. Outside of those 3 most of my favorite players are shorter guys because their playstyle was easier to imitate so A.I. and Tim Hardaway.
@champFichtnerBourne
@champFichtnerBourne 4 жыл бұрын
@@justicedavis5705 Cool! I loved Kobe so much! I exaggerated saying MJ is not in my Top 15 hahahaha sorry btw. Sadly, As I told u LBJ is my favorite, but as a Suns fans, Steve Nash comes in 2nd, then Chris Paul. I also like those kind of short and fast players
@AndrewGiddingsWA
@AndrewGiddingsWA 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan's D was debilitating. The way he could take over on both sides of the court was unparalleled.
@jaxonknievel5933
@jaxonknievel5933 4 жыл бұрын
pause
@niko-im8nl
@niko-im8nl 4 жыл бұрын
😳
@genustinca5565
@genustinca5565 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he even dares to compare LeBron to MJ in that respect.
@harshdeshpande3382
@harshdeshpande3382 3 жыл бұрын
@@genustinca5565 lebron can guard every position on the court with equal effectiveness, no one in nba history can claim to do that
@lecapjames
@lecapjames 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what she said
@michaelmachupa3854
@michaelmachupa3854 4 жыл бұрын
Bird was the best teammate. He was versatile, unselfish, tough, and an underrated defender.
@jojojojojojojojojojojojob
@jojojojojojojojojojojojob 4 жыл бұрын
lebron's career is not done yet but man MJ had the most perfect career any basketball player can only dream of.
@Al.j.Vasquez
@Al.j.Vasquez 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's why they say that you have to be perfect if you wanna beat Jordan's legacy, he had too many achievements in a little less than a decade. Being the best offensive and defensive player in the same season, and leading the Bulls to the 2 triplets by being the best scorer in those 2 lapses.
@tiktokexposed898
@tiktokexposed898 4 жыл бұрын
Nah Tim Duncan had a better career
@Locosy
@Locosy 4 жыл бұрын
Sergio Next bruh
@Matzes
@Matzes 4 жыл бұрын
Minus the wizard days, he shouldn't have come back, it lost a bit of the mythology
@joelcranny3860
@joelcranny3860 4 жыл бұрын
@Deep Mind X bill was 11 and 1 in the finals
@cjbloop
@cjbloop 4 жыл бұрын
Prime Jordan was just athletically ridiculous, specially in 88-89 season, when he was casually making i think 3 foot jump shots vertically, it's like every shot was a pause in the air, and he was also very quick and dunking on big dudes like so easy, up to this date I've never seen somebody even close to doing it.
@ericpeek8891
@ericpeek8891 2 жыл бұрын
Facts bro . Im still amazed watching him on KZfaq the things he could do was simply breath taking . Like u said I've still to the date never seen anything any man do what he could do and never lose in the big game that is unheard of..
@Tbone2044
@Tbone2044 3 жыл бұрын
"It's not a fair comparison, Michael jordan is a far more superior player" Hakeem the dream olajuwon
@eazymoneymane7789
@eazymoneymane7789 3 жыл бұрын
The dream is top 10 for most all time plus lebron went to Hakeem camp to learn footwork and post up game
@Tbone2044
@Tbone2044 3 жыл бұрын
@@eazymoneymane7789 hakeem spoke those words about jordan.
@eazymoneymane7789
@eazymoneymane7789 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tbone2044 , I know
@superdopehiphop
@superdopehiphop 3 жыл бұрын
Link where Hakeem is saying this when compared to LeBron
@Tbone2044
@Tbone2044 3 жыл бұрын
@@superdopehiphop kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bt6aY91_tLyVnqs.html
@greg-anatomy3607
@greg-anatomy3607 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan to Reggie Miller:"sure but dont talk to black Jesus like that".
@jjhaya
@jjhaya 4 жыл бұрын
@Clay Slade it's probably because Jordan became Bird's bitch and we know he's a trash talker, he probably meant it as "I'm better than Jesus himself" and we all know what happened the next game after he said that.
@epicsauce2647
@epicsauce2647 4 жыл бұрын
With how people so comfortably established Jordan as the GOAT (sometimes even before his second repeat), for LeBron to even contest that #1 spot is already an incredible achievement
@jamaljones566
@jamaljones566 4 жыл бұрын
That’s due to the media. They never debated whether he was better than Shaq, Magic, Kareem, Bird or even Russell
@jrock14w
@jrock14w 4 жыл бұрын
Jamal Jones for a long time it was Wilt then Kareem. If you talk to my grandpa he’ll argue forever about how Wilt is so much better than Jordan it’s all generational
@RobertJohnson-nz3xm
@RobertJohnson-nz3xm 4 жыл бұрын
Its not really that incredible. When LeBron retires they will find someone else to "contest" Michael Jordan's status as GOAT.
@austinclubb2093
@austinclubb2093 4 жыл бұрын
@@RobertJohnson-nz3xm probably Giannis if he keeps his play up
@austinclubb2093
@austinclubb2093 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrock14w Not even Russell?
@gabrielalvarado3348
@gabrielalvarado3348 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer: Michael Jordan Long answer: Michael Jeffery Jordan
@jays5926
@jays5926 4 жыл бұрын
ok boomer
@koszykowkazawodowka3177
@koszykowkazawodowka3177 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@kaanthedesperate
@kaanthedesperate 4 жыл бұрын
I dont get these MJ fans. They are so scared that people will accept that LBJ is better than MJ, they dont even wanna talk about it.
@kaanthedesperate
@kaanthedesperate 4 жыл бұрын
@TheRealist 811 i think it was %63 MJ and %19 or %21 LBJ. And other than that , we all know it was gonna be a MJ documentary. I love how MJ always wait it out for the documentary and then after 2016 Championship, he signed the contracts. Also, this new generation actually can see more footage of both players, can search a lot more stats and numbers about both of them. And because they watch LBJ and they also watch MJ too, they can decide who is better. If u look into +30 years people, most of them stuck to past and cant admit that LBJ is better. if not, cant admit he is really close to MJ and MJs Legacy. I am a basketball and LBJ fan, a Curry, a Kobe Fan. A MJ fan too. But MY GOAT is without a doubt LBJ. Lately, ive been talking and arguing about it a lot, so i search evwrything, every championship and playoff run MJ and LBJ had, every stats etc. I watch higglights and lowlights of both of them. And by the time, i came to realise LBJ is just better. And even tho MJ has 6-0 and scoring titles. LBJ's legacy and wht LBJ has done in his career is just greater than MJ. You shouldnt act like the only achievement in basketball are championships, finals record. But MJ is my 2nd without a doubt, so i respect people who puts him ahead of Bron. Btw I believe people will come to realise that LBJ is just better than MJ in 10-20 years. I really can see thats happening.
@kaanthedesperate
@kaanthedesperate 4 жыл бұрын
@TheRealist 811 most guys, like i said, is stuck there and car get out and admit LBJ's greatness but ofc its their opinion. Lebron literally helped Kyrie become who he is now, without MJ there was always gonna be Pippen. Pippen is a really really good player. I dont believe without LBJ, Kyrie is being a superstar. He has the skills and everything but he became the man thx to Bron. You said MJ never leaver Chicago. There is something slightly important to talk about there. MJ had an almost superteam after Pippen joined, im not talkinh about the last 3 championships, that was absolute nuts. But even with Pippen and decent role players, a nearsuper team. Compare to what LBJ got and what he faced to what MJ got and what he faced; we both know MJ had more advantage. Even in Miami, even in 2013, he had to carry even that team to the finals when Bosh and Wade playing like shit. If u watch those games you know what im talkin about. Other than that, James all career stats are easily better than MJ's Chicago* career stats. LBJ's playoff and finals games are easily more succesful than MJ's and if you look to game score leadings etc. You can see what im talkin about. Even with that much scoring title youd think MJ is the most efficient player, but most of the people say LBJ cant shoot and MJ isnt even more efficient than LBJ himself. Not in paint not in 3P line not in Long range. Im not saying MJ isnt great. Those watch u wrote there is awesome, but if u watch games, playoff runs, finals, all time stats; if u search how game score and efficiency works, how much both MJ and LBJ helped their team and how much LBJ is better(but still cant win those 6 finals). Look its simple dude, put LBJ in MJ spot. LBJ is winning at least 5 championships likr MJ did, Put MJ in LBJ's spot MJ is winning 1 mayybe 2 Miami championship probably 2011 or 2012 at best. And no other championships. And MJ is not even going to finals in 07, 17, 18. Thats my point. BTW TYSM FOR READING MY COMMENTS AND CHAT.
@gabinidal6908
@gabinidal6908 3 жыл бұрын
MJ's moves are just off the charts compared to LBJ's one move bulldozer.
@shoutucker3726
@shoutucker3726 3 жыл бұрын
yeah and no major injuries, also overrated defender the only defense he know is chasedown block to look cool
@gabinidal6908
@gabinidal6908 3 жыл бұрын
I give lebron credit for taking good care of his body and at his age playingbon a high level... but MJ never backed down on any of his finals appearance.
@donjohnswaggert
@donjohnswaggert 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabinidal6908 the so-called goat debate it gives you insight into how depraved human brains are because I'm older guy I watched MJ's whole career to the Finish and I don't even remember anyone ever making a big hubbub about him being the best or the greatest of all time it was just right there in your face. So it seems like nowadays if you like a certain player or like a certain thing that you have to make it appear to be the best or greatest of all time otherwise ... is like it's nothing
@gabinidal6908
@gabinidal6908 3 жыл бұрын
@@donjohnswaggert its the NBA's doing imo .. after MJ retired, the league's ratings were declining... so they had to market someone who can fill in or they can claim to be the GOAT... its all for the ratings 💰 🤑 💸
@donjohnswaggert
@donjohnswaggert 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabinidal6908 there is actually a documentary where are the three gentlemen who changed the rules in the NBA to promote offense clearly stated that they knew the NBA was totally changed forever
@GMighty
@GMighty 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan : 2-Way Offensive threat Lebron : Playmaking slasher
@MadeByTrey
@MadeByTrey 3 жыл бұрын
Slasher? The disrespect
@censari544
@censari544 3 жыл бұрын
vrrs He’s not wrong though? Westbrook’s a playmaking slasher also?
@GMighty
@GMighty 3 жыл бұрын
vrrs so you gonna act like lebron dont be attacking the rim while playmaking?🤦🏿‍♂️
@No-Hassle
@No-Hassle 3 жыл бұрын
40% from 3 means nothing??
@GMighty
@GMighty 3 жыл бұрын
@@No-Hassle playmakers can hit 3s
@superkj1974
@superkj1974 4 жыл бұрын
"Even if it's by the slightest of hairs" I see what you did there 😉
@grasz
@grasz 4 жыл бұрын
game of zone kobe to lebron lol
@ryanlam2394
@ryanlam2394 4 жыл бұрын
what does it mean
@kungfukenny8098
@kungfukenny8098 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanlam2394 slightest of h"AIR"s he's said Mj is the goat
@crisnla1
@crisnla1 4 жыл бұрын
Slightest of hairs because Lebron is the only one with hair 😏
@deluxebasketballanalysis2198
@deluxebasketballanalysis2198 4 жыл бұрын
Go and check out my LeBron Vs MJ GOAT 🐐 video. It’s an in depth comparison, and clearly answers the question of who the NBA GOAT is 🔥👀
@mattheww4019
@mattheww4019 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 was actually in 2012. 2011 was Dirk's big year
@Mahdi_Amine
@Mahdi_Amine 4 жыл бұрын
You mean 2010 2011
@Mahdi_Amine
@Mahdi_Amine 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattheww4019 he is talking about the 2012 one he said he won the chip
@khengkoy
@khengkoy 4 жыл бұрын
Shhh... Don’t bring 2011 up. LBJ fans get triggered...
@minervali631
@minervali631 4 жыл бұрын
also lebron choke year
@josegabrielsanchez793
@josegabrielsanchez793 4 жыл бұрын
2011 Was Dirk's and my fellow puertorican JJ Barea's year!!!!!!!!!!
@freddyarkalji4208
@freddyarkalji4208 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t even mention half the stuff mj had accomplished
@opinion357
@opinion357 3 жыл бұрын
MJ is the G.O.A.T. No question about that. Period.
@darthdiabetes7009
@darthdiabetes7009 3 жыл бұрын
Fax
@curtisfranzen986
@curtisfranzen986 3 жыл бұрын
I've said it before on other threads. But I'm going to say it again. I understand how many of the Greats did what they did. I was never able to do those things myself, but I understood the techniques. I have NO IDEA HOW MIKE DID WHAT HE DID!! MIKE IS THE GOAT!!!!!!!
@luka5465
@luka5465 3 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. Mike was a killer. And all these people that were around to see it then have never seen anything like it before. We have to let that go and realize we have a guy named LeBron James. We were spoiled by Mike to think this guy has to play a certain way. In my eyes LeBron does more with the basketball and for a basketball team than Jordan.
@derxy3545
@derxy3545 3 жыл бұрын
@@luka5465 basketball wouldn’t be what it is today if Jordan wasn’t a person, Jordan taught Kobe and Kobe taught lebron
@luka5465
@luka5465 3 жыл бұрын
@@derxy3545 ok?? I agree but that doesn’t make him automatically better lol
@LSUlaxFan20
@LSUlaxFan20 4 жыл бұрын
This intro had me ready to run through a brick wall
@Spikeex
@Spikeex 4 жыл бұрын
@@rsh650 kzfaq.info/love/PFORjQxx709qqz-RxZpgRQ Can you check out my vid about Giannis?
@JerryJefferson23
@JerryJefferson23 4 жыл бұрын
“Can he stop Jason Terry?”
@captaintang1
@captaintang1 4 жыл бұрын
That ended the goat debate right there
@andremortonjr4688
@andremortonjr4688 4 жыл бұрын
Can Who Stop Jason Terry MJ Hell Yeah He Can No Question
@dimasirvinghandlesgod
@dimasirvinghandlesgod 4 жыл бұрын
Andre Morton Jr its lbj you dumb
@s_ame1135
@s_ame1135 4 жыл бұрын
"Can he post up JJ Barea?"
@mosstwig3591
@mosstwig3591 4 жыл бұрын
Kobe certainly couldn't stop Terry
@Hugo-ts9hq
@Hugo-ts9hq 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody will surpass MJ ever...
@ramybt2785
@ramybt2785 3 жыл бұрын
Lebron
@Takingyoutojail
@Takingyoutojail 3 жыл бұрын
But LeBron already has he was a better teammate a better passer and we will never see another player like him
@kadenf5
@kadenf5 3 жыл бұрын
Fax and anyone who says otherwise started watching basketball yesterday
@samuelnjenga1761
@samuelnjenga1761 2 жыл бұрын
Right thats why wilt chamberlin average 50 ppg
@jasonvargas4798
@jasonvargas4798 Жыл бұрын
Im a big Jordan fan, but someone will. This is sports, records are meant to be borken.
@donaldlacro7627
@donaldlacro7627 3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem Olaijuwon: "MJ is more superior than Lebron". MJ The GOAT!
@Kevin_Liu0505
@Kevin_Liu0505 4 жыл бұрын
isn't lebron's prime literally his whole career
@Jasonwilliams21
@Jasonwilliams21 4 жыл бұрын
if you ask the media he was in his prime in hs too
@chocolatedrop4578
@chocolatedrop4578 4 жыл бұрын
jason williams u are the media
@christiano2349
@christiano2349 4 жыл бұрын
Yet lebons prime < MJ post prime
@YunisRajab
@YunisRajab 4 жыл бұрын
No way lol. I would say just Miami was his prime. He wasn't as good before and he wasn't as good after
@Heatpad.Murray1
@Heatpad.Murray1 4 жыл бұрын
So lebron prime his whole career? So that means he got swept 2 times, lost to Jason terry, got gentleman swept, got beat by the biggest margin in finals history spurs, lost to Orlando with only 1 star, missed the playoffs his first 2 seasons, missed the playoffs every year with the lakers, .. has 0 finals game tieng shots, has 0 finals games buzzer beaters, isn't clutch, needed 42 trades since 2010, played with more all-stars than any nba player in history and has 6 losses? Wow his prime nwas so good😂😂
@TMJ32
@TMJ32 4 жыл бұрын
Once Jordan hit his prime, no one else could win unless he wasn't there. No one else can say they were unbeatable.
@SitrucEelYevrah
@SitrucEelYevrah 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@chichiogbunamiri1476
@chichiogbunamiri1476 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Payton, Karl Malone, & Hakeem didn’t form a super team to prove otherwise tho
@meditationmayham3590
@meditationmayham3590 4 жыл бұрын
The team won the championship last time I checked
@djsjdh-hoahdi
@djsjdh-hoahdi 4 жыл бұрын
no one else can say they had phil jackson!!! arguably the goat coach and a strong supporting cast. edit: it’s crazy the way people attack you for making a comment about a basketball player. imagine worshipping another man so much you’re triggered at the mere idea of someone not revering them as much as you do. y’all gotta start getting some hobbies and doing more fulfilling things with your lives 😭
@Rey-lg8sx
@Rey-lg8sx 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Bron got beaten by Golden State in 2015. Don't bring the Kyrie argument because we are talking about LeBron's individual accolade.
@wilmarkcui2335
@wilmarkcui2335 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan: GOAT Lebron: Mheee mheee
@sroland3533
@sroland3533 3 жыл бұрын
Lolololol lolololol
@neveahjohnson5090
@neveahjohnson5090 3 жыл бұрын
Who is the GOAT ? The man that refuse to lose when it Really really really really count Any questions?
@No-Hassle
@No-Hassle 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it always count tho?
@No-Hassle
@No-Hassle 3 жыл бұрын
@S C Russell and Kareem have better arguments. Kareem has more wins and championships combined across all levels or play. Conference championships are good for win averages, 1st round exits are bad for averages.
@No-Hassle
@No-Hassle 3 жыл бұрын
@S C if it always counts, I give them a draw. 4 extra Conference championships is good accumulation.
@No-Hassle
@No-Hassle 3 жыл бұрын
@S C Can’t have a finals without a conference championship. This is why I mentioned who I mentioned, especially Kareem. I factor direct matchups, team/organization strength, trends/play styles, rules(zone, hand checking, illegal defense, 3 in a key, etc), “context”, years played, stats, percentages/averages, teammates, coaching, schemes.
@dagconst1
@dagconst1 3 жыл бұрын
Luke longley ??
@vin-cc9nk
@vin-cc9nk 4 жыл бұрын
unrelated, but goats are amazing animals and I love them
@grasz
@grasz 4 жыл бұрын
goat simulator🔥
@johnliang92
@johnliang92 4 жыл бұрын
Xd I love eating them too 😂😂
@leeorsellouk1326
@leeorsellouk1326 4 жыл бұрын
Where's the respect for the actual goats?
@johnliang92
@johnliang92 4 жыл бұрын
Leeor Sellouk the best way to show your respect is to turn them into great dish or raise them. It's up to you.
@danielashjazadeh6165
@danielashjazadeh6165 4 жыл бұрын
They taste great too
@nooblover23
@nooblover23 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is worse than measuring a player by media awards. See: Derek Jeter gold gloves
@robinweber9640
@robinweber9640 4 жыл бұрын
yeah scoring leader and chips are better for that.. Still jordan
@charl_lee
@charl_lee 4 жыл бұрын
can somebody explain this in basketball terms
@Reklss
@Reklss 4 жыл бұрын
Drip Wellington harden winning dpoy
@lukaz3336
@lukaz3336 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reklss that's a little far fetched I'd say.
@charl_lee
@charl_lee 4 жыл бұрын
Cyber Bully thank u good sir
@anthonymutua1003
@anthonymutua1003 3 жыл бұрын
6 rings in 7 years, of course Mj is light years a head of LB.
@luka5465
@luka5465 3 жыл бұрын
Not how it works
@doctoranderson2009
@doctoranderson2009 3 жыл бұрын
@@luka5465 exactly
@specialty9799
@specialty9799 3 жыл бұрын
He played more then 7 years in the nba..
@Luckydoobie671
@Luckydoobie671 3 жыл бұрын
Mj never chocked in the finals...
@derekmayers-louther
@derekmayers-louther 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luckydoobie671 lebron choked one finals let it go lol
@JasperAKwayu
@JasperAKwayu 3 жыл бұрын
The story is finished.. MJ is the G.O.A.T...
@macktruck8331
@macktruck8331 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a LeBron fan and will agree with you and say MJ is the goat the greatest of all time but LeBron is the second greatest of all time. LeBron's argument is that they always got him chasing Jordan when y'all should just be happy that he's second facts
@CFrancisBasketball
@CFrancisBasketball 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan's finesse is such a marvel 🤩🙌🏾
@dwalkysb
@dwalkysb 4 жыл бұрын
Im 34 and can go back to MJ beating Portland in the finals. So I've seen the bulk of Championship MJ. He was definitely amazing man. Hands down. I've seen Brons career in it's entirety. Both are legendary. U can't deny that. Im definitely more of a Bron fan than MJ but i do feel MJ is Goat. Im just glad my guy is in the conversation. Im also glad i got to witness 2 of the best to ever do it. Great video btw
@dash4800
@dash4800 4 жыл бұрын
I can come up with a bunch of statistical reasons why MJ is better, but in the end what I always start with is the caliber of players Lebron has had is so much better than MJ. Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, Davis, are all more impressive individual players than Pippen ever was. Pippen statistically was equivalent to an Antawn Jamison, although Jamison had more elite years. And ironically Jamison is one of the players on the Lebron teams that everyone says had no good players.
@dwalkysb
@dwalkysb 4 жыл бұрын
@@dash4800 ok
@321madmatt
@321madmatt 4 жыл бұрын
@@dash4800 but the rest of the league is also better. Almost every team in the league has someone on the bench now with a 46 inch vertical or better. Players are faster and stronger. Even ish Smith and dj Augustine out here breaking ankles shooting 3's amd dunking as back up point guards. Along with LeBron not getting the opportunity to Charles Barkley his way into so many more points. Ie. Back someone down in the post for 11 seconds. And the luxery of forcing the other team to play man against you do to rules.
@CaesarMagnum
@CaesarMagnum 4 жыл бұрын
​@@321madmatt the players didnt get that much stronger or faster, the technology and trainingmethods got way better. lbj benefits as much from this as anyone else today
@321madmatt
@321madmatt 4 жыл бұрын
@@CaesarMagnum definitely a case of both. Players are much faster on average, have higher verticals on average. Can dribble and shoot better as a league and I believe are taller to even since the 80s although definitely since the 60s
@aries1138
@aries1138 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan is the single greatest grower and fostered his sport more than ever in the history of professional athletes. This claim will never be substantiated, but I don't think it's too far of a stretch to say that more people on this planet know of, and or are fans of, and play basketball because of Michael Jordan than any other single reason that could be named. His level of fame made his sport better simply because he was alive to play it. No other professional athlete can make that claim with the possible exception of Muhammad Ali, but THAT is the caliber of person we're talking about here. Numbers and stats are what they are, but it's the intangible fact that Jordan simply exists to play basketball that makes him the greatest of all time.
@tysonscott7457
@tysonscott7457 3 жыл бұрын
tony hawk.
@Godhorus
@Godhorus 3 жыл бұрын
Ok American Boomer.
@Berkmnn
@Berkmnn 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you watched 1 sport XD
@dualstagef1
@dualstagef1 3 жыл бұрын
Tiger woods
@bobtwista
@bobtwista 3 жыл бұрын
If ali sold his ppl out, went to fight in Vietnam and did anything to avoid hurting his sponsorships and contracts. But no mj was just lucky the league and nike were both going bankrupt at the same time and needed a star
@shobhitverma9145
@shobhitverma9145 4 жыл бұрын
MJ all the way! its the speed and agility, Michael wasn't that big but there comes the technique. I wish these videos were less diplomatic and take a stand on who is better
@thatze3836
@thatze3836 3 жыл бұрын
nah bron did way more then mj if they were both to 1v1 is Bron taking the dub he's more of an all around player.
@TTV_Peppered___
@TTV_Peppered___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatze3836 I think maybe MJ could slow down Bron but not to the point of shutting him down
@thatze3836
@thatze3836 3 жыл бұрын
@@TTV_Peppered___ true there was a reason why he was named defensive player.
@Cranky-Panda
@Cranky-Panda 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, MJ Here is a more informative video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtJjoLVnytWpkWw.html
@NZSUBZERO
@NZSUBZERO 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatze3836 Lebron would lose because he would have no one to pass to
@TheBeastBaseball
@TheBeastBaseball 4 жыл бұрын
Born and raised a Cavs fan and eternally grateful for what Lebron did for the city of Cleveland but.... MJ = 🐐
@PAAKWAMEPAA
@PAAKWAMEPAA 4 жыл бұрын
bro you gotta stay loyal come on now
@PoeticJustice05
@PoeticJustice05 4 жыл бұрын
PlanetJohn nah, he's sees it for how it is.
@PAAKWAMEPAA
@PAAKWAMEPAA 4 жыл бұрын
Willy Garcia but that doesn’t make any sense? Why would he claim that Jordan is the goat over a player that brought his team it’s only championship? Dude sounds like he’s reaching for likes. Dude is not a real fan. Ask a Celtics fan who is better , bird or magic? Dude any Celtics fan would say bird regardless of actual statistics
@PAAKWAMEPAA
@PAAKWAMEPAA 4 жыл бұрын
Willy Garcia for instance michael Jordan hasn’t done anything for the city of Cleveland. Why would he claim Jordan, when Lebron brought 5 conference titles and the first title of all time to the Cavs. To a true Cavs fan, anything outside of Cleveland shouldn’t even exist.
@PoeticJustice05
@PoeticJustice05 4 жыл бұрын
@@PAAKWAMEPAA Lebron can be his favourite player, but the GOAT is MJ, no doubt. Bird vs Magic is a real debate because those two played against one another and squared off in finals matches. MJ is the GOAT and even hardcore fans of a hometown hero can recognize that.
@mrsky67
@mrsky67 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer MJ Long Answer Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
@Moses44476ers
@Moses44476ers 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron is better.... WIlt and a couple others were better as well
@Heaveaway23
@Heaveaway23 4 жыл бұрын
yeah lebron is just not quite there, a lot of little reasons is why mj is best but i would say 9 more scoring titles, 3 more rings, 3 more fmvps 1 more mvp, 1 more dpoy, more defensive all teams lebron only has assists on his side really
@tedgunn6977
@tedgunn6977 4 жыл бұрын
brandon robichaud ty for saying all of that bronsexuals just don’t get the point of why MJ is the goat even tho that’s true
@Heaveaway23
@Heaveaway23 4 жыл бұрын
@Lord Mū if kareem played in the 90s like MJ did hed probly be tie with mj
@pizzabagelz1204
@pizzabagelz1204 4 жыл бұрын
@@Moses44476ers nice joke
@panchum1329
@panchum1329 3 жыл бұрын
Real G.O.A.T has a heart, passion and dedication on the game. For me it's Jordan.
@damoondagoat
@damoondagoat 3 жыл бұрын
well westbrick has the most dedecation to the game so you technicaly said westbrook is the goat.
@panchum1329
@panchum1329 3 жыл бұрын
@@damoondagoat yazz..Also a goat but he's not on this discourse.
@zsyftw
@zsyftw 3 жыл бұрын
Nah Jordan washed
@beidouvirus3978
@beidouvirus3978 3 жыл бұрын
Something irks me about the way he would talk about wanting to retire early and of his own accord. He even went to pursue a baseball career as we all know. I feel like what is indisputable is his extreme passion for winning, but I'm just not sure if his love for the game of basketball itself is to the same degree.
@kyrito11
@kyrito11 3 жыл бұрын
and lebron has none of that apparently.....
@chrismas5338
@chrismas5338 3 жыл бұрын
30 years ago over 30 million viewers watched Jordan. This years finals only had 7 million viewers. The people have spoken.
@nolankelley3771
@nolankelley3771 3 жыл бұрын
hey man have u heard of this pandemic recently? i think it's covid-19 or something like that
@chrismas5338
@chrismas5338 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolankelley3771 yeah Covid-19 prevented the masses from watching on t.v.!? I don't recall any basketball stadiums holding 30 million fans.
@adinandreic.villanueva9540
@adinandreic.villanueva9540 3 жыл бұрын
Wanna know why? Ya'll can't accept the fact that Lebron is back in the finals and just won his 4th ring,that's just how much you hate him. If heat won ya'll would hate him,then heat lost then ya'll hate him more. Can't stop laughing on these dumbass hater lmao,Lebron lives rent free on ya heads😴
@chrismas5338
@chrismas5338 3 жыл бұрын
@@adinandreic.villanueva9540 I, nor anyone else attributes the lack of viewership to hate, people just don't care about the NBA anymore.
@jiexihuo9031
@jiexihuo9031 3 жыл бұрын
Really miss the 90’s... now only throw 3s and no defense...nowadays just like watching shoot 3 contest... is good for the dudes to make those 10 mins highlights ... no reason to watch for the whole match
@Oridginale24
@Oridginale24 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan let the game come to him. He could play with the ball or off-ball to blend seamlessly with the system. The triangle offense system keeps everyone touching the ball so the players can stay in rhythm. Lebron forces his system onto his teammates. Lebron dominates the ball while his teammates stand still around the perimeter. The lack of ball movement and player movement is the reason why players lose rhythm while playing with Lebron.
@wearethe9947
@wearethe9947 4 жыл бұрын
and lose championships. That shit can work against thunder, but not against spurs, dallas (fucking jason terry lol), GSW who play a real system...
@Felipe-kg8cc
@Felipe-kg8cc 4 жыл бұрын
Thats because they played in different eras, and because lebron played with bums
@trongray664
@trongray664 4 жыл бұрын
This is very true. LeBron is my favorite player but I've never liked watching those games down the stretch in his second stint in Cleveland where the offense would simply consist of LeBron dominating the ball while his team mates would just wait for him to try to score or wait until he threw it to them only when they got wide open which would took over half the shot clock to have manifest. Unless they're a perimeter all star very solid players will lose confidence playing that way as we seen in 2018.
@DaFlash47
@DaFlash47 4 жыл бұрын
Here's some facts about why MJ is the GOAT Michael Jordan has: •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 16th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago” •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018) •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. MIchael Jordan: •NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88) •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98) •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice! •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career… Remind me again...who is the GOAT?.
@Youngster543210
@Youngster543210 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Lebron is the greatest talent we've ever seen! He's bigger, stronger, faster, jumps higher than his competiton - he's the single greatest scoring/passing combination in the history of the NBA. Nobody comes close. 3 time NBA champion. 8 straight finals appearances. Dominate in every facet of the game on a level we may never see again. Forget basketball! Lebron James is one of the greatest athletes who has ever walked the planet earth regardless of sport - there may never be another like him. When its all said and done, when Lebron James finally hangs up his sneakers for the last time - a statue in front of the united center will still say "The best there ever was. The best there ever will be".. And it will be as true as its ever been - and always will be.
@SunnyBoys2
@SunnyBoys2 3 жыл бұрын
I respect both players and undoubtedly believe these are the top 2 talents of all time, but stats and comparisons aside, MJ was a pioneer of the game, he was a legend, he was nothing like anyone had seen and put the nba on the world map.. to me he sets the bar for greatness and really is the 1 and only GOAT
@sentokigames151
@sentokigames151 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder...does anyone remember LeBron used PED's, but it's all kept hush hush?
@mattryan9444
@mattryan9444 3 жыл бұрын
They also cause hair loss....
@mattryan9444
@mattryan9444 3 жыл бұрын
Yet not as athletic as jordan who has the highest vertical in NBA history
@carletpierre1895
@carletpierre1895 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattryan9444 vertical is based on height . If you calculated the power output , Zion is the most powerful jumper and lebron is 3rd
@mattryan9444
@mattryan9444 3 жыл бұрын
@@carletpierre1895 vertical is not based on height thst is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Look up spudd webb. You may be right on Zion but it's not his height
@carletpierre1895
@carletpierre1895 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattryan9444 it literally is 😐 , just cause they have a higher vertical doesn’t mean they’ll reach same height in the air .
@uldons11
@uldons11 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron - The King of basketball Jordan - The God of basketball
@FuttBuckerson69
@FuttBuckerson69 4 жыл бұрын
And if the God of basketball had a creater, it would be wilt
@anthonywatts7696
@anthonywatts7696 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@samkalkstein4236
@samkalkstein4236 4 жыл бұрын
Atheist Jordan fans punching the air rn
@Javen2600
@Javen2600 4 жыл бұрын
A god that got beat down by the Pistons and Knicks... okay
@onepunch405
@onepunch405 4 жыл бұрын
Yahwen Yisra'el A king who got beat down by the spurs, Mavs, and warriors
@HailKingCeezer
@HailKingCeezer 4 жыл бұрын
I still dont like when saying 15 seasons even though it's really more like 13 regular seasons.
@chocolatedrop4578
@chocolatedrop4578 4 жыл бұрын
Caesar Augustus De Castro no it’s 15
@P-van
@P-van 4 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatedrop4578 In reality Jordan only played 11 full Bulls seasons
@ngataib3549
@ngataib3549 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking lol
@HailKingCeezer
@HailKingCeezer 4 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatedrop4578 technicalities with no context. He barely played a few games in season 2, the rest with minutes restriction for 18 total games and only 17 games in 95.
@soulsearch1234
@soulsearch1234 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Dangerproductions Lebron vs Jordan on youtube. Best comparison ever!
@qmlinkm
@qmlinkm 3 жыл бұрын
this is the easiest question, look we all know that the true goat is brian scalabrine.
@shy2264
@shy2264 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 16 years old and every since I was little I’ve watch basketball. I’ve seen the dominance and breakthrough of LeBron but I do not think he should be in the goat subject yet. His career isn’t over, he can achieve much more. Also why is Kobe so overshadowed and just an afterthought? I my opinion the debate should be between Kobe and LeBron. The played in the same era, have multiple championships(Kobe 5). He was also chasing the ghost of Chicago and almost caught him but his body gave up. I believe MJ is in his own territory because NO ONE WILL EVERY REACH THE PEAK HE HAS, 3 peat, 2 times that’s dominance can’t be matched. This doesn’t mean you can’t debate it but he’s in his own special place and will always be known as the GOAT. But LeBron and Kobe make more sense to me.
@smellywiener8340
@smellywiener8340 3 жыл бұрын
If anything it should be MJ and Kobe, Kobe had that killer instinct and was dominant he was MJ 2.0
@karimjackson7972
@karimjackson7972 4 жыл бұрын
9x all def and 10 scoring titles? How many times has the scoring leader also been on the all def team? To go with 6 finals mvps while going 6-0 in the finals?....come on now...end of discussion
@PAAKWAMEPAA
@PAAKWAMEPAA 4 жыл бұрын
Karim Jackson that to me speaks more about the league of the times, do you really think 🤔 Jordan is a better athlete than Kobe, Lebron, Durant, hames harden, Giannis, Anthony Davis? Steph curry? My point is that those feats you mentioned are likely never to be duplicated, but it’s not because the league is less competitive today, but its more competitive. Jimmy butler, kawhi Leonard, Paul George all play defense about as good as Jordan, but the talent pool is so deep, it’s difficult for anyone to win so many scoring titles honors so many times
@ChachinAKAChino
@ChachinAKAChino 4 жыл бұрын
@@PAAKWAMEPAA Jordan could dunk from the free throw line and even won back to back Slam Dunk contests. How do you have the nerve to think all of today's stars are all better athletes? Players from the 90's are still holding records too so knock it off with the bs internet talent pool narrative.
@PAAKWAMEPAA
@PAAKWAMEPAA 4 жыл бұрын
ChachinAKAChino bro, serge ibaka has already done this, as has Zach Lavine. MJ didn’t even invent the free throw line dunk, it was Julius “Dr. J” Irving. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLinYNB_kszNcZ8.html there are at least 10-15 players in today’s nba that can do that dunk, which was actually Dr. J’s invention, not MJ’s
@ChachinAKAChino
@ChachinAKAChino 4 жыл бұрын
@@PAAKWAMEPAA So Jordan was just as athletic as some of today's athletes? Because sure did seem like you weren't giving him any credit at all. Maybe you never will give Jordan any credit where it's due so with that being said Jordan's career has done more than enough talking for the both of us.
@dennisradman6057
@dennisradman6057 4 жыл бұрын
10-15 players could do that dunk yet none of them has 🤔
@manuel-ocho7671
@manuel-ocho7671 4 жыл бұрын
Part of the GOAT discussion isn’t about stats but about respect... true BBall heads don’t even have LBJ at 2 let alone 1. It’s a non-debate. MJ still goat
@jamestatum8828
@jamestatum8828 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO NOT AT LEAST 2. Get the fuck out
@jonathancastro3930
@jonathancastro3930 4 жыл бұрын
Stfu with all that cap
@CesarM-16.51
@CesarM-16.51 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a fact, people that know the game have lebron like top 7-8
@allenxavier6073
@allenxavier6073 4 жыл бұрын
@@CesarM-16.51 lmao, you mean Bronsexual that couldn't get LeBron out of their heads put LeBron at top 7-8.
@manuel-ocho7671
@manuel-ocho7671 4 жыл бұрын
Cesar Moreno idk about 7-8... I have him tied with Timmy at 4/5. 7/8 is too low for me.
@chrisxavier1848
@chrisxavier1848 3 жыл бұрын
James has to get 7 rings with one 3 peat (to make up for his losses) THEN we can consider whether to form a committee to deliberate whether he can be even compared to Jordan.
@pjwright3773
@pjwright3773 3 жыл бұрын
So what does Jordan have to do to make up for all the fist round exits and getting swept?
@ericciaramella1984
@ericciaramella1984 Жыл бұрын
@@pjwright3773 probably win the defensive player of the year and a record 9 all nba defensive team awards. Oh wait he did that.
@menandroplan1554
@menandroplan1554 4 жыл бұрын
Finesse always lasts longer into your career than power. Jordan > James
@metal3543
@metal3543 4 жыл бұрын
Both of the two have finesse and power.. Lebron is still arguably best player in the league in his 17th season. MJ didn't even play 17. Lebron's longevity definitely passes Jordan's.
@casualfandestroyer2503
@casualfandestroyer2503 4 жыл бұрын
TheRealist 81 lebron is crazy swift tho
@gledriangutierrez4890
@gledriangutierrez4890 4 жыл бұрын
This is a dumb argument. Basketball is as simple as putting the basketball into the hoop. You can talk about how beautiful Jordan's fadeaway was but at the end of the day, those shots and Lebron's shots are worth the same points. Lebron's freight train ability helps his case of being better.
@camrose306
@camrose306 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao you sure bro? LeBron James Has been dominating with power for 17 seasons. Most of which he’s played deeep into the playoffs and he’s still going strong
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 3 жыл бұрын
@@camrose306 And he came back with a losing record in the finals. Maybe he added more finesse and fundamentals to his game, he would accomplish more.
@victorcheng3576
@victorcheng3576 4 жыл бұрын
Having many people around the league legit FEAR you and nickname you Black Jesus already makes you the GOAT 🐐!!
@quxncy9492
@quxncy9492 4 жыл бұрын
they weren't good...back then they had no KD, Steph, James Harden, Dame, Russ etc and all the greats of this era that era obviously had some tough great players but be real when we actually compare talent of this era. LeBron being the best for this long compared to players of this era says a lot
@flatl9ne187
@flatl9ne187 4 жыл бұрын
@@quxncy9492 none of these current era players would have survived the 80s Pistons in the playoff.
@victorcheng3576
@victorcheng3576 4 жыл бұрын
@@quxncy9492 there were definitely great players in every era and especially in the 80s and 90s. Yes Lebron is an all-time great for being great for this long and numbers he has been putting up. Although Bron's career isn't done yet. Jordan's resume is already ridiculous to beat from many all time great, let alone Bron. He's been an All-Star every year he played except for one year coming out of retirement. Averaged almost 30 points as a rookie. 3 peat twice. Give you 35 on one end and lock you up on the other end. All time defensive team 9 times as a first option on offense is so difficult to do throughout the years. This is just a short list too.
@kka9068
@kka9068 4 жыл бұрын
QUXNCY how were they not good?
@Justin683
@Justin683 4 жыл бұрын
QUXNCY David Robinson, Penny Hardaway, Shaq, Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, isiah Thomas, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Reggie Miller, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Patrick Ewing, Magic Johnson. Yeah shut it
@graduationlover911
@graduationlover911 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan is the greatest winner I've ever seen; LeBron is a physical specimen like no other. Let's just appreciate greatness
@Rey-lg8sx
@Rey-lg8sx 4 жыл бұрын
Great stat numbers with great number of rings.🐐
@SugarRay2
@SugarRay2 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm...Bill Russell w 11 wins would argue that.
@Rey-lg8sx
@Rey-lg8sx 4 жыл бұрын
@@SugarRay2 he didn't dominate the stats so yeah.
@immanualstanks
@immanualstanks 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rey-lg8sx Kareem is the best ever in that case..
@9Master_Mind3
@9Master_Mind3 4 жыл бұрын
As far as “physical specimen” Shaq and wilt said hello
@trueheroes8518
@trueheroes8518 3 жыл бұрын
It will always be MJ. I watched him played basketball during my younger years, IF we talk about PRIME? Michael Jordan is The GOAT
@princeofasgard8574
@princeofasgard8574 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who declares himself the GOAT is not "THE GOAT".
@mdecimal
@mdecimal 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@mdecimal
@mdecimal 3 жыл бұрын
Unless your name is Muhammad Ali ... there’s exceptions to the rule
@Riri-oj1zs
@Riri-oj1zs 3 жыл бұрын
@@mdecimal Ali is not the GOAT. It's Sugar Ray Robinson. So yeah, anyone who declares himself as the GOAT, is not the GOAT.
@zsyftw
@zsyftw 3 жыл бұрын
@@Riri-oj1zs r/wooosh u fucking dumbass
@nicjohn60
@nicjohn60 3 жыл бұрын
So your saying both mj and LeBron aren't the goat? Then who?
@benzalcala5282
@benzalcala5282 4 жыл бұрын
The real goat knows how to play defense.....and no doubt its for jordan
@zakariakhaled4339
@zakariakhaled4339 3 жыл бұрын
Then why'd Phil Jackson take MJ off Magic and put 6'7" Scottie Pippen and have Pippen pick him up from full court. Because LeBron guards all 5 positions at a rate Jordan can't dream of matching
@dadillonful
@dadillonful 3 жыл бұрын
Easy to do when you go against plumbers on a nightly basis
@zakariakhaled4339
@zakariakhaled4339 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Russell?? Coz that man has 11 Rings and is one of the greatest defenders
@sroland3533
@sroland3533 3 жыл бұрын
@@zakariakhaled4339 Y'all sound dumb with this Guarding all 5 positions, so you telln me as the Shooting Guard am supposed to leave the Top and go to Mark the Center or the Power or Small Forward am on the Top am only supposed to run bck to help now a Power Forward which is Lebrons True position bcse of his Body size but plays Point Forward after this was invented by Phil for Pip is free to Roam to go with it he's wht 6'7 wht 278lbs just calln a # of pure muscle so yes he can mark any Center of today but put him against Tim even tho he's Stronger he doesn't have the intelligence to mark Tim he's a lost cause against Olajawun n Shaq. As a Power forward there are so many old ones he cnt handle he wud drown in the Ocean swimming to catch Bird he cnt deal with Rodman, Oakley and why those days the game was ruff with all the Complaining travelling and flops tht he does he cudnt make it in yesteryear. Someone said something abt MJ askn for help a mean of course yes he did but Lebron DEMANDED who he wntd to Team up with and thts the difference btwn askn for help.
@sroland3533
@sroland3533 3 жыл бұрын
@@zakariakhaled4339 They Switched bcse Pip is taller than MJ, Magic is wht 6'9 Pip is wht 6'8 a mean y'all serious it's only common sense oooppsss then again I take tht back bcse I realize tht plenty of y'all just go on wht you see plus wht y'all hear and dnt tlk for the inevitable which is y'all Emotions bcse y'all think we hate LBJ bcse we're MJ Fans. A mean we cud spread it right out bcse the most y'all cud say against MJ is tht he cudnt win without Pip and he was a loser in the 80's but we cud say outta 9 consecutive trips to the NBA FINALS LBJ only won 6 and within those 6 losses he was swept 2x, he also Travels Flops and Complains like a Baby in an no hand chkn era, he has only repeated once and he was held to single digits in the 2hlf of a NBA FINALS Game. So come with all you Stats and the fact tht he can Guard all 6 positions on the Court it still doesn't make him a better player than MJ. ....... SImple whether you like it or not
@Joel-ed9ft
@Joel-ed9ft 4 жыл бұрын
When you have a name like Black Jesus, it’s not even a comparison.
@xxx4566
@xxx4566 4 жыл бұрын
when your name is king james, there’s no comparison
@romerobryan83
@romerobryan83 4 жыл бұрын
bad vibes what’s a king to a god
@hubyh7984
@hubyh7984 4 жыл бұрын
@@romerobryan83 except Jesus wasn't a god😬
@willmonk6623
@willmonk6623 4 жыл бұрын
Why we talking about Kanye?
@tnmygrwl
@tnmygrwl 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus was pretty dark
@Invader_Tim
@Invader_Tim 4 жыл бұрын
When an NBA legend says that he played against God disguised as micheal jordan, you know he's the best. Whenever you refer to someone who's the best in that field, you say that he's the micheal jordan of the field. Whenever there is a discussion on who is the GOAT, its always Jordan vs Kobe or Jordan vs Lebron. The common factor? Jordan. My point is: whenever you want to consider a player to be great, you compare him with jordan. he's the standard, plain and simple.
@joeldukes303
@joeldukes303 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to articulate better than perfect. Well said Sir
@Zett76
@Zett76 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it's not valid to use a sentence that's been said when Lebron was one year old... 😁 Still, it's MJ.
@prashantawasthi2418
@prashantawasthi2418 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained brother..!
@omarescamilla6223
@omarescamilla6223 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even going to watch this video but MJ hands down is the GOAT, former players call MJ the GOAT whereas LeBron he calls himself the goat.
@dadillonful
@dadillonful 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the thing about jordan fanatics.. yall are so brainwashed
@ek274
@ek274 3 жыл бұрын
@@dadillonful brainwashed by what?? im old enough to have seen the majority of MJ's career and all of Lebron's career. MJ's play did the "brainwashing" if anything. foh if anything Lebron fans are brainwashed. the majority of his fans act like they know everything and say that hes the goat without even witnessing MJ's career from the start. So who's really brainwashed here??? FOH TAKE THIS L B JUST STOP
@thefactarchive
@thefactarchive 3 жыл бұрын
Cristiano Ronaldo calls himself the GOAT too
@76ersinspector82
@76ersinspector82 3 жыл бұрын
@@ek274 fax
@tyronelorenzovalentio3414
@tyronelorenzovalentio3414 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefactarchive He’s a fucking diver😭 No goat
@Richbrand706
@Richbrand706 4 жыл бұрын
Where Michael separate himself is at all the categories that are most important. Offensive abilities, defensive abilities and championships. Michael win, end of discussion.
@patrickmiller1674
@patrickmiller1674 4 жыл бұрын
And offensive rebounds. I hate that Noone talks about that
@pizzabagelz1204
@pizzabagelz1204 4 жыл бұрын
No debate
@MrE_
@MrE_ 4 жыл бұрын
You also have to add context to all those empty stats and championships. The truth is that the bulls would beat most Lebron teams, many agree with that. Take out lebron and MJ, the bulls win every time. Better teammates on the bulls
@Richbrand706
@Richbrand706 4 жыл бұрын
Mr.E you are trying to change the narrative. We are not talking the better teammates(which is a false statement) we are talking about the GOAT! Who is Michael Jeffrey Jordan! Bye
@evrenguerin64
@evrenguerin64 4 жыл бұрын
*getting swept out of the first round
@snappatruce
@snappatruce 4 жыл бұрын
We’re still doing this?
@RonRyder
@RonRyder 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly
@chasam1
@chasam1 4 жыл бұрын
Tonight last episode Last Dance. Hopefully no more debate afterwards.
@wearethe9947
@wearethe9947 4 жыл бұрын
@@chasam1 espn lives of this crap sadly.
@chocolatedrop4578
@chocolatedrop4578 4 жыл бұрын
snap patruce yea let’s compare 2 completely different players, with different play styles, in different eras and rules, with no context. And try to determine who’s better 🤣
@christiano2349
@christiano2349 4 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatedrop4578 it's not hard actually.
@musicsdarkangel
@musicsdarkangel 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan has 7 out of the top 10 playoff series scoring averages of all time... Only three other players appear on this list, once a piece (Berhard King, Jerry West and Rick Barry, West and Barry who were around in the time of 33% more possessions per game) .... Lebron doesn't appear on this list even once. In 1988, Jordan averaged 45.2 PPG against the Cavs (really think about how insane that is), hitting the series winner in Ehlo's face, and having back-to-back 50 point games, the only time this has happened in playoff history. Not only that... but the efficiency with which he did it was ridiculous... and steals, rebounds, blocks were fairly crazy as well. And he did this with nearly all 2 pointers. Lebron's never been anywhere near that level. You know that Raptors series in 2018 that many of his fans call the best of his career? Those were Jordan's numbers for the earlier 7 years of his playoff career, averaged.... including assists, by the way. Jordan also has by far more records (non-longevity based), highest PER of all time, playoff PER, PPG, win shares... the only thing Lebron has going on above Jordan is today's inflated stats, Westbrook who was able to average a 30 ppg triple double for three seasons straight. Jordan also only dominated others, was never dominated in a series (Jason Terry, Kevin Durant heavily dominating Lebron in the finals all come to mind, 4 of his finals matchups getting FMVP including even Andre Iguodala). Jordan was another beast, on both ends of the court. Still to this day, he looks like a player from the future, and that's crazy... he played 3 decades ago. Best inside game, best midrange game.... even a similar 3 point average despite choosing not to take them and playing in a non-3 pt heavy era. Meanwhile, Lebron shoots in the 30th percentile from midrange. The year Jordan won defensive player of the year, you had defensive beasts all over the league, including Hakeem... He averaged more blocks than half of the starting centers and 200 steals to go with it (hasn't been done by anyone else)..... at shooting guard. He's the only player to average 30 PPG and win DPOY... with 35 ppg (insane, Lebron's never been that dominant). Almost every argument goes to Jordan. And as for help? 50+ point games: MJ has 30 of the 34 in Bulls history (88.2%). 40+ point games: MJ has 165 of the 230 in Bulls history (71.7%) and 30+ point games: MJ has 537 of the 1,291 in Bulls history (41.6%). That's just crazy- a level of dominance Lebron has never achieved. @t
@boricua11601
@boricua11601 4 жыл бұрын
If anybody watched The Last Dance series and saw Michael Jordan's leadership and his will to win at any cost will conclude that LeBron James doesn't have that same will. MJ hands down is the GOAT...
@eashanprabhu1005
@eashanprabhu1005 4 жыл бұрын
what are you smoking my guy. lebron does have that same will that mj had
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 4 жыл бұрын
After watching the last dance documentary, I realized something. I used to think Lebron only had an angle to be talked about in the conversation of being the GOAT, because he had more assists, rebounds and controlled more of team play, while Jordan was more of a pure scoring weapon. Lebron could get to the finals even with bums on his team, while Jordan when he retired, his team was still winning 55 games a year. Sounds good for Lebron doesn't it? Then we look into the behind the scenes. MJ wasn't just a team mate. He was a coach, a motivator, and a monster that would devour his team mates if they didn't bring their game and drive to practice. So much that when they are playing in the playoffs, the opponents don't seem that scary at all. MJ's team mates were good, BECAUSE of MJ. Even after he left, the team mates were still good. Lebron never had that kind of effect on his team. So if you ask me, for a single game who would I pick? I might lean a bit more to Lebron. But for a season, for a franchise, MJ all the way.
@jeraldvincentzumel5300
@jeraldvincentzumel5300 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Ive been saying this for the longest time. People keep pointing out that teams become trash when Lebron leaves. And Jordan's Bulls still won 55 when he left. Truth be told, is that not supposed to be a point for Jordan for bringing out the best in people even when he was not around? I mean, who's the better teacher? Someone whose students succeed when he's not around, or someone whose students become bums when he's not around?
@timvilches4068
@timvilches4068 4 жыл бұрын
Take a look at this man, this is as objective as it gets kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtJjoLVnytWpkWw.html
@Big_3000
@Big_3000 4 жыл бұрын
Jerald Vincent Zumel I mean, the bulls alsjj OK went 47-35, and then when he came back, went 72-10 no one ever mentions that.
@Archin727
@Archin727 4 жыл бұрын
God damn you are right
@dillajoints433
@dillajoints433 4 жыл бұрын
I do like your reasoning but I’ll have to add the season that Jordan didn’t play the bulls made it to the playoff and actually did some damage. Each team lebron has left (especially the cavs) has become an abysmal mess. Lebron took some of the weakest teams we’ve ever seen to the finals.
@fvkz
@fvkz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for the day Caruso reaches 🐐 status
@kdsmindset5484
@kdsmindset5484 4 жыл бұрын
boi hes already there LMAO.
@Mahdi_Amine
@Mahdi_Amine 4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the day mj and lebron reach caruso status
@connorallan8080
@connorallan8080 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean waiting
@connorallan8080
@connorallan8080 4 жыл бұрын
Him AD and lebron are the big 3
@gavinsilva3919
@gavinsilva3919 4 жыл бұрын
He already a walking bucket. You cannot stop but only hope to contain this man.
@rottishake
@rottishake 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine saying defensive 3 seconds makes it harder to score . In a hand-check-less era
@blackscreen1810
@blackscreen1810 3 жыл бұрын
espcially since bron doesnt post up in the paint
@JustFrame21
@JustFrame21 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's astounding how people may say that. So they're implying that players no longer able to contend and sit under the hoop, can no longer bully you down low, can no longer impeded or physically touch you up...is somehow "Harder" to score now? Lmao...okay.
@blackscreen1810
@blackscreen1810 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustFrame21 and there is so much spacing in the modern nba so imagine if jordan or any great interior finishers played today they'd be dropping 40 a game
@PoliticusRex632
@PoliticusRex632 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackscreen1810 if those players were around today they wouldn't have changed the rule.
@norwoodhammond650
@norwoodhammond650 Жыл бұрын
@Larly bro Giannis MVP, DPOY. Jokic 2 time MVP , and Luka currently in mvp conversation have all 3 said that it is easier to score in the NBA than it is in the European League. That's 🤪 crazy bro. Jordan all day. LeBron is great. I give him more credit for the first half of his career. BUT PRIME JORDAN IS THE GREATEST OF ALL-TIME.
@tylerwaffles21
@tylerwaffles21 3 жыл бұрын
In 11 seasons Jordan scored 28,412 points In 17 seasons, LeBron has 34,241 Jordan won 10 scoring titles, Lebron has 1 MJ has 9 defensive first team selections, LeBron has 6 Jordan’s highest scoring average was 37 while LeBrons was 31 Jordan led the league in steals 3 times LeBron hasn’t once With most of LeBrons shots are from 0-3 feet from the basket his shooting percentage is 54% for his career, Jordan’s is 50.5 in his bulls days taking way more jumpers. Jordan better 3 point shooter, better mid range, better post up game, better at shooting fade-aways, better foot work, better defender etc and that’s NOT even including the 6-0 vs 3-6 in the finals. I could go on but my point should be clear.
@giannis5868
@giannis5868 3 жыл бұрын
I hate when bronsexuals say "Bron has more final appearances" like it doesn't matter if you make the finals if you can't win it
@bakharandi
@bakharandi 2 жыл бұрын
@@giannis5868 6 Finals Loses to the Western Conference Champions, simply Proves that the West was the Best . . . Now that LeBron is In the West, he Only has One Finals appearance, in the Covid-19 2020 Summer Tournament in the Disney Bubble.
@am3lagrimas410
@am3lagrimas410 Жыл бұрын
Jordan would lose to curry and kd.
@deutschergrieche
@deutschergrieche 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 The Mavs won the 2011 Finals....
@Minetic
@Minetic 4 жыл бұрын
And beat the Lakers who won the year before
@rundongjiang8297
@rundongjiang8297 4 жыл бұрын
Think he meant 2012
@deutschergrieche
@deutschergrieche 4 жыл бұрын
@@rundongjiang8297 I know. Making an informative video also means getting your facts right.
@deutschergrieche
@deutschergrieche 4 жыл бұрын
@@dennisorantes34 get out with your insults and wrong grammar. Stay objective next time or don't comment at all.
@lanzpineda5227
@lanzpineda5227 4 жыл бұрын
Hey MJ did not play in 1994 and retired. retired in 1999. It is worse than not playing a regular season game and it's his fault. All the regrets you've seen in the documentary, crying for a 7th ring after 20 years lol. Lebron's career is not over yet, wait til he beats all time scoring... something Jordan couldn't do. If LBJ wins this year 28 percent will become 40 percent lolol. Inching closer thats why Jordan made a documentary for people who don't know him lol. ESPN gave no.2 to LBJ which I oppose. I think Kareem is no.2 and not LBJ yet. Media wants this conversation for present and future and it's very obvious.
@troystephens5735
@troystephens5735 4 жыл бұрын
I have to go with LeBron Is not better than Jordan. MJ all day
@koilerREC
@koilerREC 3 жыл бұрын
prime jordan way way more completive then lebron will ever bee. he was just too strong
@KPI358
@KPI358 4 жыл бұрын
MJ all the way!
@Chessbox09
@Chessbox09 4 жыл бұрын
MJ led his team to 3peats 2x.Think about that. Does anybody realize how hard that is? MJ all day
@chad_b
@chad_b 4 жыл бұрын
@VICKtorious9 you're the one being defensive lol
@YeeYee-ii6xw
@YeeYee-ii6xw 4 жыл бұрын
Ye and bill Russell had 11 rings and an 8peat
@s41k02
@s41k02 4 жыл бұрын
Yee Yee Bill played when there was 7 teams and less good players and less playoff games, but he is still a goat
@PoeticJustice05
@PoeticJustice05 4 жыл бұрын
VICKtorious9 It's just how you Lebron nuthuggers sound when you talk about 2016 or any other championship he's won, like he did it all himself.
@thiphan7904
@thiphan7904 4 жыл бұрын
@VICKtorious9 I think the bigger issue is Lebrons team as in he is the leader of those teams have lost 6 times. How many times you allowed to lose and still be considered the greatest lol. Least back up your argument instead of claiming people are dick riders
@zroxmolejon6278
@zroxmolejon6278 4 жыл бұрын
youb fail to mention that MJ nver have meltdowns in his entire career specially at playoffs and finals
@allenxavier6073
@allenxavier6073 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because he melts at 1st round of the playoffs.
@timc5145
@timc5145 4 жыл бұрын
So u telling me Jordan lost more in the finals then Lebron?
@zroxmolejon6278
@zroxmolejon6278 4 жыл бұрын
@@allenxavier6073 noob AF 63 points coming from injury a meltdown to you? when did mj score 8 points during first round?
@drewjohnson9417
@drewjohnson9417 4 жыл бұрын
@@zroxmolejon6278 when did lebron lose in the first round? Now do you idiots get why he left it out? They both fucking choked it every once in a while so fucking what
@sbeallvln
@sbeallvln 4 жыл бұрын
Allen Castro He didn’t melt down. He played far-superior teams and lost. ‘86 Celtics, anybody? Look at his playoff average his first three years when he was 1-9. Even Game 3 of the ‘86 playoffs when he only scored 22, he had two jaw-dropping plays to start the game, then spent the rest of the game trying to pass the ball. Yeah, you could mention Game 4 in ‘89 or Game 1 in ‘95, but in ‘89 he more than made up for it in Game 5, and in 1995 he was coming back from baseball, and more than made up for it in ‘96. Lebron? Don’t think so.
@blackcupid6037
@blackcupid6037 3 жыл бұрын
When i heard Basketball the first thing in my mind is MJ... He is The God of Basketball bruh.
@davidcano482
@davidcano482 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan always over performed in the playoffs and finals vs the regular season. The same can’t be said about lebron.
@BonelessFolka
@BonelessFolka 4 жыл бұрын
We all know who the better player is: Brian Scalabrine
@forrestbliss2798
@forrestbliss2798 4 жыл бұрын
Big facts
@FuttBuckerson69
@FuttBuckerson69 4 жыл бұрын
His name alone gives me goosebumps
@Danger____
@Danger____ 4 жыл бұрын
#oldmeans
@impanthering
@impanthering 4 жыл бұрын
Paul pierce: Thats easy, me!
@housesuns-kings8480
@housesuns-kings8480 4 жыл бұрын
@@impanthering Game of zones made so.
@dadamafia
@dadamafia 4 жыл бұрын
Considering that Jordan's vertical (48 inches) was higher than Lebron's (44 inches), I am very confused why this video seems to suggest otherwise (MJ defied gravity vs Lebron ignored it)...
@andretoledo1902
@andretoledo1902 2 жыл бұрын
Lebron is much bigger and heavier than MJ so considering that it makes Lebron's vert more impressive for a person of his size to achieve that but nonetheless in the end you could still debate that MJ jumped higher no matter. Just something to think about.
@ryankayombya7576
@ryankayombya7576 2 жыл бұрын
Simply physics. Lifting something 210ish lbs 48 inches in the air requires less force than lifting something 250 lbs 44 inches .
@pgdiaz5537
@pgdiaz5537 4 жыл бұрын
jordan's prime, 6 championship ring in 6 trip in the nba finals ... lebron's prime, suffered 0-4 loss to golden state warriors 2018 finals.
@phanthomzm
@phanthomzm 4 жыл бұрын
Look at Lebrons Team vs arguably the best team ever with the best shooter and scorer ever N tell me MJ would beat them if he was in LeBrons shoes💀
@maan7259
@maan7259 4 жыл бұрын
@@phanthomzm kinda if it was in a different era but ofc Mj ain't beating 3 superstars in a team
@Manyuken
@Manyuken 4 жыл бұрын
​@@maan7259 MJ has beaten multiple stacked teams! Just look up the New York Knicks from the 90's! Or what do you think of the Showtime Lakers with Magic Johnson in 91? I believe they had 3-4 Hall of Famers in that team! Same goes for the Utah Jazz and Phoenix Suns! The 92 Trailblazers also had multiple Hall of Famers in their squad... What about the 4-0 sweep of the Detroit Bad Boys Pistons in 91?? Several Hall of Famers including Isiah Thomas, Dennis Rodman, Joe Dumars while also having players like John Salley, Bill Laimbeer etc etc
@maan7259
@maan7259 4 жыл бұрын
@@Manyuken yeah I know MJ is the GOAT
@willt6299
@willt6299 4 жыл бұрын
@The Progressive Brit lechoke... I mean lebron wouldnt reach round 2 in the 90's. He would be Charles Barkley 2.0.. good player but 0 championships. But only difference Charles wouldn't whine and b*tch like lebron
@speedyspeed8492
@speedyspeed8492 4 жыл бұрын
The goat is MJ the real #23!!! Lebron's shoes take up too much space in Nike outlets! LOL
@ivanjovanovic362
@ivanjovanovic362 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan: Scored 38 points with flu. Lebron: Blocked Thiago Spliter.
@Carloslive-fc6uy
@Carloslive-fc6uy 4 жыл бұрын
More like food poisoning
@Carloslive-fc6uy
@Carloslive-fc6uy 4 жыл бұрын
We know that Jordan pushed him and refs now know that it's a foul.
@Hunterchameil
@Hunterchameil 4 жыл бұрын
@Monkieeeeeee lebron cannot even beat jordan's record which is not losing 3 straight for 8 years straight
@kennyladarryl5360
@kennyladarryl5360 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hunterchameil pippen did the same thing
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennyladarryl5360 uhh no, pretty sure that 3 game ws for Pippen was broken when MJ was gone
@isaivalsan8254
@isaivalsan8254 4 жыл бұрын
MJ 13 yrs Bulls 6 rings, Kobe 20 yrs Lakers 5 rings, Lebron 17 yrs Cavs-Heat-Cavs-Lakers 3 rings / Jordan never left his team to try to win championships with help from other stars.
@RICANSTEIN
@RICANSTEIN 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but after Kobe got that last ring the werent able to bring in anymore talent. NBA blocked the acquisition of Paul cause the team was going to be sold. Lakers didnt bother after that. D'Antoni killed Gasol's knees and Kobe's ankles after he took over.
@nolansmith4524
@nolansmith4524 4 жыл бұрын
What about the time lebron only scores 8 points against the Mavericks in 2011
@TheVanexel23
@TheVanexel23 3 жыл бұрын
Facts!...that's not very GOAT-like is it??🤔🤔🤣✌
@michaelshaw7652
@michaelshaw7652 3 жыл бұрын
Greatness is defined not just by great but also by poor/average performances, especially in the biggest stage In my view, Jordan's had more great performances than James, though not by a huge amount. What separates these two is the poor performances, which Jordan had none and James had quite a few, which explains why Jordan is 6:0 in finals and James lost more finals than he won.
@joebobbitt7093
@joebobbitt7093 2 жыл бұрын
so what about the 94-95 where orlando beat the bulls
@josephjudah77
@josephjudah77 2 жыл бұрын
@@joebobbitt7093 what about it you named 1 season where mj only played 17 games after returning lol he swept that same team the next year and went on to 3 peat lebron ain’t never 3peat in his career
@dennistang5935
@dennistang5935 Жыл бұрын
Put MJ on the cavs against the KD warriors 2-years in a row. They're getting swept too
@knathanknathan
@knathanknathan Жыл бұрын
@@dennistang5935 bro stop your tang
@mariosuarez3411
@mariosuarez3411 Жыл бұрын
@@dennistang5935 Or put MJ in that Heat team in 2011 against the Mavs. There's just no way I see MJ with Wade and Bosh losing that series.
@tyjiggy1293
@tyjiggy1293 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan simple
@novkovskistevo
@novkovskistevo 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan was art.
@ajarmuzzle
@ajarmuzzle 4 жыл бұрын
Hoop Juice alright thats enough internet for today
@theemet8010
@theemet8010 4 жыл бұрын
JangleJunction 😂😂💯
@rhammanuel4162
@rhammanuel4162 4 жыл бұрын
@@pieceoflintifoundonthefloo554 go to bed nowwww
@chrishandsome4267
@chrishandsome4267 4 жыл бұрын
Hoop Juice hol up
@detroitplayerz
@detroitplayerz 4 жыл бұрын
Hoop Juice sus
@truthbrotha1244
@truthbrotha1244 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, you’re really stretching here to compare Lebron’s iconic moments to MJ’s. Layup drives, claiming he saved the Heat with a game 1 win... kind of silly. MJ just has the most iconic moments of maybe any player in any sport in history. He is basketball. If Nike hadn’t locked down his logo, he may have already taken it from Jerry West to be the NBA logo. This debate is over. There is no comparison if we’re talking prime MJ on the Bulls. He is the 🐐. Period. End of story.
@cobrallama6236
@cobrallama6236 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan was better at basketball than anyone has ever been at anything.
@vinlloyd5836
@vinlloyd5836 3 жыл бұрын
Sike. Messi is better at football than Jordan was better at basketball by a country mile.
@vidcooldrake3059
@vidcooldrake3059 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinlloyd5836 haha u wish
@vidcooldrake3059
@vidcooldrake3059 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinlloyd5836 messi is a goat but he ain't with ali, jordan and that class
@vinlloyd5836
@vinlloyd5836 3 жыл бұрын
@@vidcooldrake3059 he’s beyond either of their class. He’s in a space of his own as an athlete. Not one of them dominates the way Messi does.
@vinlloyd5836
@vinlloyd5836 3 жыл бұрын
@@vidcooldrake3059 I don’t need to wish. This is actual real life facts. Jordan was only successful because he whined and bitched to David stern to get the rule change in 1991 so he could finally get past the Pistons who were injured anyway.
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