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10 ай бұрын

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@Omnis2
@Omnis2 10 ай бұрын
Francis, dunno if you're reading this, but I really appreciate all the content with James. As someone who got into cycling only a year ago, your videos with him have been a great help for me. It's refreshing to see someone cut through all the bullshit in this industry. Cheers.
@kimwarner6050
@kimwarner6050 10 ай бұрын
Thank you James for speaking on these terrible womens bikes. Just make bikes in smaller sizes. I'm 4'11 and small bikes are so hard to get. Short people rarely sell their bikes b/c of this, and brands seem to only make a handful. Its so frustrating b/c the bikes are always sold out in my size.Currently I'm sitting at 10 bikes. Yes I am hoarding bikes, and yes I have a problem. Good day
@ebikescrapper3925
@ebikescrapper3925 10 ай бұрын
Islabikes, have a look
@odakism
@odakism 10 ай бұрын
Canyon has a few bikes in 3XS, but they're always sold out, and they're only in a few options. Blood boiling.
@r.8745
@r.8745 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately that’s probably only going to get worse, at least in the US as the post bike boom contraction continues, all the brands we carry where I work seem to be cutting their smallest sizes. Trek isn’t doing 44/43cm road bikes in current gen models, Liv’s xs road bikes fit me at 5’2”, but there’s no xxs. Hoard those bikes!
@gemmafletcher5611
@gemmafletcher5611 10 ай бұрын
@@r.8745liv make xxs in many models they’re just not sold in the uk for some reason, they are often for sale in Europe though. As much as James dislikes liv bikes they’re one of the few bikes that actually fit me with standover height often being a problem for me.
@tomg.542
@tomg.542 10 ай бұрын
perhaps one custom frame would be better than 10 off-the-shelf? Back 20 years ago or more there was a women's specific brand in the US "Terry" that had a smaller (maybe 24 or 26 inch?) front wheel. Apparently, this was better somehow?. I could see that it might benefit smaller riders in terms of frame design but one would need to carry two sizes of innertubes etc. But female-specific t seems like pure marketing to me. I don't doubt that women need a different fit on a bike, but seems like a specific frame? And yeah, the colors tend more toward the purples and pastels.
@robertf6588
@robertf6588 10 ай бұрын
"it looks like a Fokker triplane" Oh man I love James' analogies 😂
@PanaehaliTut
@PanaehaliTut 10 ай бұрын
For some reason i like how it looks. Something in me just wants to buy one. Even if it is crap. Just for funzies. Real problem with it - you cant get different one if stock doesnt fit. Since it is one piece with a stem.
@tinglydingle
@tinglydingle 10 ай бұрын
Honourable mention to my own bike, the Canyon Grizl: a gravel bike designed for long bikepacking trips and ripping it on rough trails, yet they gave it the same geometry as the Ultimate, their traditional race bike, rather than the Endurace, their all day road bike. I'm lucky because the Grizl fits me wonderfully and as such I love it to bits, but it really doesn't make any sense to have given it race bike geometry given its stated purpose, and I can imagine that it's much too long and low for a significant portion of its riders.
@cjohnson3836
@cjohnson3836 10 ай бұрын
Yeah something is off when my reach measures have me on a large mountain bike but, by their own calculations, I'm fit for a small grizl. I think Europeans are just masochists. I hate that American cars turned from something that was once comfortable and muted out the road noise (you could literally drive across the country without much fatigue) to shit that beats the fuck out of you because "connection to the road". No, I don't want to connect with the road, actually. My health insurance is too expensive as is.
@chuckyfox9284
@chuckyfox9284 10 ай бұрын
I think the reason it’s just as long as the ultimate is, because you are supposed to run a short stem on it.
@dougquesnel5613
@dougquesnel5613 10 ай бұрын
I know there are mentions of it running a shorter stem, but the stack for the given size is still small and that short stem adds to that problem because if you flip the stem, you can only go so high due to the short length to compensate for that short stack. Really fun and lively bike but it was absolutely too race-y for me.
@chuckyfox9284
@chuckyfox9284 10 ай бұрын
@@dougquesnel5613 Luckily you don't have to buy the bike and it still exists. My gravel bike is just as low and I'm glad it is.
@dougquesnel5613
@dougquesnel5613 10 ай бұрын
@@chuckyfox9284 you are right but when things are advertised as endurance type bikes and they aren’t it can become frustrating is the point. Nothing wrong with racey bikes.
@waltwood5394
@waltwood5394 10 ай бұрын
These videos are as funny as they are informative. I love this format, with both James and Nic! More of this please. It makes me happy.
@BettinaRayosdelSol
@BettinaRayosdelSol 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate your commentary on women's bikes, especially helpful to us small riders! Never letting go of my 3XS Canyon, I think I won't find a better fit out of the box
@shamanand
@shamanand 10 ай бұрын
Great to see you both in action again
@bantolphbantir9605
@bantolphbantir9605 10 ай бұрын
I have experienced the rim brake in a dirty area effect on a folding bike, Riese & Mueller Birdy with 18" wheels. The brakes were naturally close to the ground. I rode it a couple of Km per week on some city gravel paths and dirty farm roads and it was amazing how filthy the V-Brakes braking mechanism got, and how quickly it got that way, and how much if affected the performance. I got so sick of cleaning and greasing them, that I had replaced the Vs with a set of Magura HS 33s which had the moving parts of the brakes relatively protected. It made a world of difference.
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 10 ай бұрын
Jame's is brutal. He's also needed. The brand of bike not yet on the market, but should be: The Hype.
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 10 ай бұрын
Since when is the simple, good old English name James* spelled with an apostrophe?!
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 9 ай бұрын
Already exists- the honcho of the company is Kim Il Sinyard. The stickers on the downtube read S-WORKS. They should be available only with SRAM parts to complete the project.
@m0fr001
@m0fr001 9 ай бұрын
Canyon Grail owner here, another kind of self defeating thing about the hover bar system is; In any situation where you'd want to take advantage of the "vibration dampening" intended by the hover bar design is also probably a time when you want to have your hands on the brake levers and positioned a bit wider apart. You end up never using the tops for their intended design purpose. I also hate that there is no way to adjust stem length without buying a whole new integrated bar/stem. And there is only like 15mm of stack adjustment. AND when rewrapping the bars, you have to use an extra long bar tape because there is more surface area to cover, and that limits your options considerably. All that said, when in the drops you are able to get a really strong positive grip by looping your thumb over the lower structural bar. They are really quite comfy in the drops. I generally love how the bike rides, but I'll not be going with a Grail for my next bike.
@28boko
@28boko 10 ай бұрын
4:20 In regards to Liv sizing, Giant makes an XXS size EnviLiv but with Giant, it all depends on the distributor(Giant UK). For example, in Poland, we have an XXS size available and if needed you can get a model from a different area like Germany or France.
@speedbird8987
@speedbird8987 10 ай бұрын
I love that you have given James a platform to rant - its endlessly entertaining. Plus he has great points! Thanks again 😊
@thekeytoairpower
@thekeytoairpower 10 ай бұрын
I had those brakes on my defy. They weren't that bad. That said I have good luck with cobbled together stuff. As was mentioned they were a work around to get a cheap group on a disk bike. The main problems I had was finding compatible gps mount and the massive weight. Dining a mix of 105 and tiagra now.
@fredericpressel1611
@fredericpressel1611 10 ай бұрын
James´ loud and provocative as always. Canyon Grail handlebar: You hate it or love it. design wise. Me and my Double Decker Fokker Aeroplane Grail CF SLX fit fine together. Have no wobbly steering issues in steep descents at 60-70km/h or imprecise cornering, no inconvenience on technical terrains and gravel. Kudos, Fred.
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 10 ай бұрын
I love listening to criticism more than positive reviews on bicycles. Keep these series going, please!
@gavlptvbk8665
@gavlptvbk8665 10 ай бұрын
The Ribble Endurance used to have endurance geometry and the R872 (R for race) used to have race geometry, then for some reason they swapped them round. TBF i’m in my 40s and slightly overweight and I much prefer my old R872 with the race geometry to my bikes that are more upright.
@cybertonto72
@cybertonto72 10 ай бұрын
Would you still recommend the Ribble bikes ? Looking for a new bike and on a tight budget and seen one of their bikes in my budget
@gregspeakie4635
@gregspeakie4635 10 ай бұрын
​@@cybertonto72I've got the Ribble Endurance and love it. Really good bike and raced it from cat 4 to National B races. I know some people have issues with delays in delivery so make sure it's in stock first
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 10 ай бұрын
I wrote a similar comment. Also in 40s. How long are you on your steed a time???? Couple hours max. Is for me. Maybe 2 hour 15 once a month. I like race geo when legs feel free not clogged lactic I’m happy
@gavlptvbk8665
@gavlptvbk8665 10 ай бұрын
@@zzhughesdI’ve done plenty of 100km rides on it.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 10 ай бұрын
@@gavlptvbk8665 wow. Just shows. Yes most of us older riders play better on relaxed. Not all. Some. Maybe 1 in 5 or 1 in 10 still work well with speed set ups.
@OffshoreNath
@OffshoreNath 9 ай бұрын
#10 my 2018 giant propel, suffers from the worst speed wobble when descending so much so I have to descend at half the pace of everyone else. Done it from the beginning, tried changing stem length, seat set back to shift my weight about even balancing the wheels. Still inspires as much confidence as Russel Brand at a womens institute meeting.
@grahambell9831
@grahambell9831 10 ай бұрын
A fine bank holiday weekend watch.....I'm not surprised at all James having a proper rant! 😩 I think we have our own rants about our own previous & current bikes, component's and accessories!! Too many to mention here! 😅 great video 👏
@jirdesteva
@jirdesteva 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with James @1:29. The industry doesn't make it easy or comfortable for the average consumer.
@darinsteele7091
@darinsteele7091 10 ай бұрын
There's ppl who buy race bikes but put a full stack of spacers on it and short stem, so it defeats the purpose of a race bike pretty much.
@michaelfisher9760
@michaelfisher9760 10 ай бұрын
This goes back to James’s point that manufacturers sizing is inaccurate. My Giant Defy is a medium but with hindsight I should have ordered a small.
@m1mbz
@m1mbz 10 ай бұрын
​@@michaelfisher9760absolutely! I bought a Giant Defy seven years ago, took me a few years to work out it was too big.
@lutherburgsvik6849
@lutherburgsvik6849 10 ай бұрын
10:53 "Trek had the marvelous idea of putting the brake underneath the bike." That's how it used to be with some vintage bikes. AFAIK they moved the brakes up to seat stay bridge where they have stayed for that same reason: dirt and crud in the brakes = reduced stopping power. Funny how, even in the modern era, hi tech multinational companies need to learn these lessons for themselves.
@catshoemike
@catshoemike 10 ай бұрын
The first Specialized Stumpjumper had the brakes down there, 1990 or so. Ludicrous
@monkmchorning
@monkmchorning 8 ай бұрын
More than a few triathlon bikes put their brake caliper down there, too. You can always depend on triathletes neglecting bike hygiene and maintenance, so they were rendered inoperable from the sweat, sand, salt, and spilled energy drink that accumulated down there.
@mahanmoshir
@mahanmoshir 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Francis & James for this video! please make a video of 9 most LOVED Bikes! 😀Cheers
@joshpearson2529
@joshpearson2529 10 ай бұрын
I owned a Merida with those rim brake callipers beneath the bb. As James said, the slightest bit of shite that got in there and they would stop working. Had a proper poo on chamois moment when descending and the week after I sold the bike 😂 great video though, good luck to the people that buy fully integrated cockpits!
@derekwest7347
@derekwest7347 10 ай бұрын
Really good content - and often very funny -unlike most of the bullshit we hear. Your criticism of the Specialized future shock is probably right, for most people. It will go wrong at some point and need to be replaced at great expense. BUT for those of us with wrist problems, it's a game changer. It enabled me to keep cycling with no pain. So it's worth it for me. Redshift stem on my gravel bike - same logic.
@jonathansnell876
@jonathansnell876 9 ай бұрын
Honourable mention to the previous generation Systemsix which when used by EF with the Vision Metron integrated handlebar and stem required at least one spacer underneath because otherwise the back of the stem fouls the frame and you can’t steer the bike… That and the big unfinished hole in the headtube for the hoses to dive into. I’ve noticed they have sorted this on the new models though!
@haqitman
@haqitman 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great insights! Roubaix SL2 from 2010 is my nice bike, which has an old school long reach handlebar and too long stem. I really love this bike but I feel too stretched out, and this video confirms my suspicions that the fit is wrong for me. I'm planning a short stem and some newer, shorter reach handlebars, and bring the saddle back about 10 mm to relieve some stress on my hands and arms, and to move the c of g back a bit. The bike is really plush to ride even on 23s (want to go to 28s for some light gravel), a suspension handlebar would be superfluous. It'll be better when I'm scooted back a bit.
@matthewlewis2072
@matthewlewis2072 10 ай бұрын
James hates Specialized. And Giant. And Cervelo. And Bianchi. And... everyone. Except Pinarello. Handbag bikes, with unnecessary bumps and kinks (and weight) in the tubes.
@Designer_Opine
@Designer_Opine 10 ай бұрын
New cyclist and I’m really enjoying and learning from the James features. I wish he had an operation in NYC. Considering how informed, experienced and opinionated James is on the subject-when can we expect his first build to hit the market?
@jjpaq
@jjpaq 8 ай бұрын
He's mentioned in another video that his shop builds custom bikes, so...if you have decent pockets, hit him up. 😅
@lehtjug
@lehtjug 9 ай бұрын
I have 2018 Cervelo S3 which I had a bit of problem find a proper ride position. When I did bought that bike I didn't pay enough attention a geometry. Afterwards I noticed the seat tube angle was much different than my previous bikes. On that bike was a seat post with 25mm setback which set the saddle way too back so I decided to buy a seat post with 0mm setback and now it's much better.
@Xarx42
@Xarx42 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to suggest the Simplon Pride II to James. The brand did the "cervelo" handlebar before cervelo and you can actually take it appart and adjust it without the necessity to replace the whole thing. About the grail (I have one ^^): yes, this shock absorption stuff is marketing BS. And yes, replacing the handlebar tape is a nightmare (you can do it with one roll, but it needs practice and quite some force). But having the option between a very aggressive position in the drops and a quite relaxing position in the top is pretty awesome I have to say. Thats something a normal handlebar simply isnt able to combine. Also hooking your thumbs in feels nice and very secure. The looks though... I dont mind, but I understand if some people do ^^.
@blazwecycling
@blazwecycling 10 ай бұрын
Yep. The Ribble Endurance SL isn't an endurance bike. A staff member at Ribble advised me not to buy it for endurance rides & recommended the CGR for a lot more relaxed geometry.
@Risayogi
@Risayogi 10 ай бұрын
What woman really need in bike is the choice of handlebar width. My wife is pretty tall for a woman (169 cm) and she can use frame sizes 50-52, but she has very narrow shoulder width. She needs 36 cm handlebar, whereas the 40 cm that usually comes with frame size 50-52 is way too wide for her.
@dan1807
@dan1807 10 ай бұрын
my first bike is the ribble and got sucked in with the endurance bike ! regret it as i get neck pain issues :(
@joekawasaki
@joekawasaki 10 ай бұрын
The brake on trek Madones happened in 2013 and when in sunny weather & replaced with dura-ace are great!
@martinjames672
@martinjames672 10 ай бұрын
Great videos as always! Thanks guys
@jornidema1884
@jornidema1884 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see his opinions about the cheap decathlon bikes and which one he would recommend. I ride the triban gravel 120 and I am really happy with it
@oneninetyseven
@oneninetyseven 4 ай бұрын
I think they could throw in the Giant TCR Advanced from 2016-2022. I have always ridden Giant because their XL frame fits nicely in terms of reach. Starting in 2016, Giant redesigned the frame. All seat tubes were shorter, the little extra tab of seat tube above the top tube was gone, and a proprietary seatpost and clamp system that has a tendency to crack seatpost. To add to this fun, the proprietary seatpost did not get longer to compensate for the shorter seat tube. I bought a frame. Built it up (it was amazing), but the seatpost was right at the minimum insertion line. Four seatposts late and Giant offered me an ISP frame at bike shop cost because they realized there was no fix to the problem of fit. So they redesigned the frame to be smaller, but still fit the same range of heights. Yeah...not the smartest. Oddly enough, the TCX (cyclocross frame) uses the Giant D-Fuse seatpost, but also has the option to run a 30.9 mm seatpost with an adaptor. If the TCR had this as an option it would have been a great bike.
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland 10 ай бұрын
I've got an endurance Al - explains why I feel stretch out on it and too low (loads of spacers). Bought it because of the endurance label gits.
@1esk192
@1esk192 6 ай бұрын
Still suuuper thankful about all the bike fitting videos regarding small riders and especially handle bar width. I would've fallen into all the usual gravel bike traps otherwise.
@Zahava
@Zahava 10 ай бұрын
The Bontrager VR-C shape is 100mm reach / the VR-CF is 93mm reach. The VR-SF is 75mm, which is the only bar they make that is not excessively long. For the RSL Aero Road Handlebar on the new Madone, I believe that the narrower hood to wider drop width throws off the labeled reach measurement.
@monkmchorning
@monkmchorning 6 ай бұрын
73-80 cm is about right.
@djiembefolaDan
@djiembefolaDan 10 ай бұрын
I haven't heard a good rant from James in a long time, puts a little grin on my silly face every time! Thanks!
@ronitdebnath
@ronitdebnath 10 ай бұрын
Scott Addict has to be here with respect to being too long for an Endurance bike.
@JOutterbridge
@JOutterbridge 4 ай бұрын
Cervelo may be missing from this review as well....
@davidspitzwegerich2533
@davidspitzwegerich2533 10 ай бұрын
completely agree, long reach leads to discomfort. I have no problem with the handlebars being quite low, though (is that just me or is that normal?). Question: Wouldn't it make sense to choose a frame size that's relatively small? That brings the handlebars closer to me (and allowes me to push the saddle back to take some weight off my hands) and by pulling the seatpost out I maintain my saddle hight and get into a low position.
@Mclovinthedank
@Mclovinthedank 10 ай бұрын
I always love listening to James. You can tell he is very passionate about his line of work! I noticed there weren't any scott bikes in the list...
@alves81
@alves81 10 ай бұрын
I own the aethos, and you are right. Could have been better in tearms off geometry. Kudos
@kalilebron007
@kalilebron007 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I hope more cyclists see this and just not go out and buy a fancy brand bike rather than buy what's right for them.
@BadTanLines
@BadTanLines 4 ай бұрын
I have the canyon grail and the bike doesn’t wobble and doesn’t require extra bar tape. The bearing top race is rubber and will fail in two weeks, but the bike doesn’t wobble and the bars are fine.
@davidgeorge9233
@davidgeorge9233 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree about Ribble, I looked at their bikes when shopping for an endurance bike and was really confused when I looked at the geometry. Their range is very cluttered and the website doesn’t help either, need some serious work to sort it out.
@quacker998
@quacker998 10 ай бұрын
Actually love my Grail biplane and James is not wrong about length and and stack heights for 50 year olds
@madmonkeycycling9098
@madmonkeycycling9098 10 ай бұрын
James should checkout Time bicycles. Geometry wise, they are shorter reach and higher stack. + the production quality is far superior to all other manufacturers and manufactured in Slovakia. They also ride like a dream
@darrellb4131
@darrellb4131 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I have a Time ADH 23 and it’s comfortable, feels fast and looks great and nothing too complicated on it
@bob69365
@bob69365 10 ай бұрын
But that’s a completely different video
@aizins3420
@aizins3420 10 ай бұрын
a time bike is my dream bike. would love to own one in the future, i hope they don't outsource and have the manufacturing somewhere else lol
@Jeromin
@Jeromin 10 ай бұрын
​@@aizins3420I don't think that's happening their big move was from France to Slovakia, they use some proprietary methods like their RTM so outsourcing won't be happening. I have a TIME Fluidity 2019 which I don't think they make anymore (has made in France rather than made in Europe on the top tube) and it rides a dream and I really wish they didn't start painting or painting more of their frame mine is a gorgeous raw carbon with a clear coat showing the beauty of their carbon. They are also making an actual push into north america as well and not being so niche so you have time to save up and experience a Time 😂
@okantichrist
@okantichrist 10 ай бұрын
@@aizins3420like the USA?😂
@robertrjm8115
@robertrjm8115 10 ай бұрын
So question is, which ones did you like? My personal favourite is the Specialized Roubaix SL4 and Fax=ct 10R from 2015 with the zertz inserts
@lucaswilliams1011
@lucaswilliams1011 10 ай бұрын
Great info on all your vids . I can’t get comfortable on my 2015 s3 at all. Mid 40s ex road and track as a teen and bmx before that. Just can’t get around mid sole shoe placement. Seat as far forward as it goes cleats forward as they go and I still find can’t get comfortable. Unless on the trainer I pull my feet out at the ankle as if I’m getting out of them. Any ideas? No power output unless I’m on my toes on the pedal. Shoes are sidi ergo mega.
@JoeW71
@JoeW71 10 ай бұрын
Old Trek Madone, uh oh. My 2014 Scott Solace also has rear brake under the dropouts. Haven't worried about it since not much braking happens at the back of the bike and I am mighty slow. Next bike will be disc equipped.
@timothydog76
@timothydog76 10 ай бұрын
My 2019 Giant Defy Advanced had the Conduct braking system. I hated the look of it from the start but I got such a good deal on the bike so I lived with it. A couple months ago I bought the SRAM Rival AXS e-tap groupset and it’s been amazing. I do not miss having that big ugly manifold on my bars!
@AnvilAirsoftTV
@AnvilAirsoftTV 10 ай бұрын
I ended up getting the model up due to the Giant braking system.
@frankspeakmore7104
@frankspeakmore7104 10 ай бұрын
I find it easier to bleed the brakes on my Honda Motorcycle than my Giant Conduct system.
@amargurung4432
@amargurung4432 10 ай бұрын
Great information about the Liv Enviliv bikes. I am a shorter dude and need XS size bikes. Liv race bikes fulfills my needs. Lol
@izzy7067
@izzy7067 5 ай бұрын
Do you have a video recommending frame sizes for heights? I had several bike fittings when I was younger and fitter, but now in my late 50s after 2!level spine fusions, I need a more upright bike for a 5'7" height. Great video.
@roubaix3843
@roubaix3843 10 ай бұрын
Ridden my Roubaix for the last 5 years, sublimely comfortable and no issue whatsoever with the Future Shock - guess it works for me and appear to be well built (won Bike of the Year in Cycling Plus, can't be all that bad then I guess)
@maxm6931
@maxm6931 10 ай бұрын
I've got a 2018 Roubaix as well, nothing to complain about in close to 10k miles other than the general longevity of the parts Specialized used. That said, I recently picked up a used 2016 Bianchi and it makes me wonder what all the "improvements" in recent years were about...
@norcalchrismeister
@norcalchrismeister 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 Roubaix Sport and love it. It's so comfortable and fast with carbon wheels and GP5000 tires. I might upgrade the groupset to Di2.
@maxm6931
@maxm6931 10 ай бұрын
@@norcalchrismeister Yep, the design is hard to beat when the aim is going fast in a straight line on less than perfect roads. I love that on pavé you can just go to the drops to get more weight on the suspension, which helps riding fast through them which is what you are supposed to do.
@jamesmckenzie3532
@jamesmckenzie3532 10 ай бұрын
Same here. 2013 Roubiax. Ended up riding like a noodle with the 'Zertz' inserts breaking frame integrity. Zoom to a 2018.5 Roubaix. Solid and the Future Shock along with the Z seat post was a vast improvement. The first run had two issues: it used an actual hydraulic shock and the attachment point between the fork and the shock was made of the wrong material. Fixed both. Now I have a 2023 Diverge. Really great gravel bike.
@eamartinez88
@eamartinez88 10 ай бұрын
​@@norcalchrismeisterhave the same bike. Thinking about upgrading to 105 di2. Rode a lot of cobblestone roads with friends in Richmond, VA and it was definitely noticeable that my hands weren't shaking as much compared to theirs. It's a solid bike with some good wheels and tires. Can also do crushed gravel towpaths nicely.
@silitch
@silitch 10 ай бұрын
Next video: what are James' favorite bikes and why?
@awake-notwoke6473
@awake-notwoke6473 10 ай бұрын
Had a 2011 Roubaix 58cm and found the reach a real issue even with a basic 110mm stem, kind of weird geometry on those bikes that are meant to be for endurance. Moved onto a 2011 Tarmac with 100mm stem and it has been magic, that is until the steerer failed. Currently building a 2021 Giant TCR Pro 0
@monkmchorning
@monkmchorning 8 ай бұрын
The head tubes of the Roubaix of that period were outrageously tall, especially from 58 cm on up. For me the Giant TCR, geometry virtually unchanged for 16 years, hit a sweet spot. The second-generation Scott CR-1 hit it, too.
@guochenggang0321
@guochenggang0321 7 ай бұрын
A bike light, stiff, comfortble, fun to ride, but also fits well - so we are talking about Giant TCR
@gregschramm8180
@gregschramm8180 10 ай бұрын
I like how calm you are😊
@DaigoroToyama
@DaigoroToyama 10 ай бұрын
I was wondering about the Aethos, too. Being a Roubaix rider, I would have seriously considered buying an Aethos, given how it uses all the compliant parts, had it been given the same geometry as the Roubaix. Oh BTW, Bike Sauce sells a kit that replaces the future shock cartridge. :)
@lanzaroterider365
@lanzaroterider365 10 ай бұрын
He lost me when talking about servicing the future shock, and I love fs.
@monkmchorning
@monkmchorning 6 ай бұрын
I always considered the Roubaix to be too tall, but making the Aethos cockpit dimensions identical to the new Tarmac was just stupid.
@TomAshworth
@TomAshworth 10 ай бұрын
I was about to press the button on a 56cm Aethos !! Now I’m in a quandary. I ride a 55cm Reilly Spectre with a 100mm stem which I love. I’m replacing a 54cm long n low Whyte Wessex with 100mm stem which gives me shoulder pain but other than that it’s a good bike. I fancied a change and Aethos I thought was the one ticking all of the boxes - I’m in a right quandary now - I’m 56 pretty fit but not 25 and riding every day. Help ! I’m 6ft 33cm inside leg and shortish torso so the late Mark Reilly said. He nonchalantly measured me on a simple jig and said you are a medium. I hire a 56cm Synapse in Mallorca and that always feels great…
@Martin-ql6ty
@Martin-ql6ty 10 ай бұрын
on the roubaix I'd add in the fact that the future shock cartridge is not serviceable so you have to buy a new future shock cartridge from spesh... The madone SLR prior to the newest one had issues with the iso speed mast developing lateral play and the bb90 system is a terrible idea. "lets put a bearing straight into a carbon shell"... good one One that missed the list is the new cannondale syanpse. on paper a great bike.... threaded bb, 27.2 seat post, no cables/hoses through the headtube... but then it all falls on its face. Its got a load of lights and batteries bolted to it that you cant remove and have to pay extra for. the light isnt even bright enough to ride at night and the battery isnt powerfull enough to rubn the front light, rear light and radar for a reasonable length of time.
@Big2Planker
@Big2Planker 10 ай бұрын
So, what are nine bikes that JAMES LOVES??? Particularly for taller riders, or at least AN OPTION?
@Cade_Media
@Cade_Media 10 ай бұрын
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@thelonesculler
@thelonesculler 10 ай бұрын
How about best bikes for smaller women? (As long as they aren't all Pinarello)
@maxafc4695
@maxafc4695 10 ай бұрын
i bought some VR-C handlebars for my winter/turbo bike. Luckily i had a shorter stem to fix the reach, the next day i saw your video about how the reach measurement is wrong. I even checked the reach measurement before based on these videos, but wasn't expecting it to be a straight up lie. Luckily they were only £40 and 90% of the time on the turbo so having a short stem doesn't matter
@ThePennyandJeff
@ThePennyandJeff 10 ай бұрын
What is your take on the new allez? Does it address the shortcomings of the roubaix?
@TheUsername1302
@TheUsername1302 10 ай бұрын
I have an aethos (sorry James) and I ride it with no spacers and a normal size stem. But until recently I had no idea it was considered long and low until I tried my mates BMC roadmachine. Still wouldn’t trade it for anything else though
@SethMarcell
@SethMarcell 10 ай бұрын
I love how passionate you are about getting women bikes with proper fit. Good on you!
@aftengdur0
@aftengdur0 10 ай бұрын
I started with Giant Revolt size S and in order to get the fit right I had to put 50 mm stem (clown emoji). Then I switched to Liv Devote and size S was almost as close to perfect as I could get where I live - I just had to change handlebars to 380 mm from 400 mm. But many female cyclists I know are shorter and more petite than me and it is so stupid that brand that builds their image around being "women-specific" is not an option for them. More honest line would be "tall women specific".
@verbinnenben
@verbinnenben 10 ай бұрын
175cm, tarmac Sl6 size54. My BikeFitter said it was one size to big. He upped one spacer and fitted an 80mm stem and I already had a short reach specialized handlebar. I don't really like the twitchyness of the short stem. So I bought a 0mm offset seatpost (now 20mm) and will if a 100mm stem will work now.
@xayomit5866
@xayomit5866 9 ай бұрын
The next video could be about his most liked bikes. As always, great content!
@bennp2000
@bennp2000 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe the Cannondale SuperSix Evo didn't get a mention; silly pin in the headtube waiting to write-off your frame? Seat-clamp mechanism that slips (can be fixed with tape and thread locker). Speed-release (put it on a wheel-off roof carrier and watch your fork flex like mad), why oh why? Oh, and of course, a press-fit BB, which has now been ditched in the latest model. In defence of Liv, my wife has a Langma Advanced and it's great. Things like using the Shimano levers that are designed to suit to people with tiny hands is better than most manufactures.
@gregvassilakos
@gregvassilakos 10 ай бұрын
Trek wasn't alone in putting a rim brake under the bottom bracket. I had a Kestrel Talon with the same design, and I still have a Specialized Shiv with the same design. A friend of mine has a Giant Trinity with the same design. That gunk collects on the brake cable and gums up the system is one criticism, but another is that the cable routing is so awkward that the friction is too high even when the cable is clean.
@scottbaker5851
@scottbaker5851 9 ай бұрын
Has a GT mountain bike a 1984 model that the suntour rear brake was under the chain stay. The cable pulled on an hourglass metal plate, which would pull the pads to the rim. It was a nightmare to set up.
@CyclingwithRuss
@CyclingwithRuss 10 ай бұрын
So glad he said that about the Ribble. I fell for their trap of "Endurance" bike. Much happier with my Trek
@neilwilliams3298
@neilwilliams3298 9 ай бұрын
I love my Endurance SL disc but do sometimes wish I'd had the patience to wait for an R872 instead for the slightly more comfortable position.
@CyclingwithRuss
@CyclingwithRuss 9 ай бұрын
@@neilwilliams3298 I’ve still got mine mate. Struggling to bring my self to sell it. It’s uncomfortable but it may be ok once I’ve lost weight. It’s just to aggressive for me right now
@neilwilliams3298
@neilwilliams3298 9 ай бұрын
@@CyclingwithRuss sounds familiar. I've put on recently but did the 22 ride London 100 happily on mine at 95kg.
@zbigniewnykiel
@zbigniewnykiel 10 ай бұрын
Question: for You, normal Orbea Orca is endurance or Racing geometry?
@jrother
@jrother 10 ай бұрын
Thankful for James's diatribe against 'endurance' bikes that are only slightly slacker race bikes. In 2016, I bought a Felt Z100, thinking it was a nice, entry-level relaxed road bike. After watching all these bike fit videos, I now discover, seven years later, that I need a 36 cm handlebar with a shorter reach, and the size 51 (smallest size enduro Felt offered) bike I bought came with a 40 cm handlebar. Why does their 'enduro' bike have only 6 mm less reach and 17 mm more stack than their equivalent size race bike? The head tube is only 20 mmm longer on the enduro bike. I rolled the handlebars back maybe 20 degrees like you have suggested in other videos and I still think the front end of the bike is 3-5 cm too long and low. And the stem is already only 80 mm. I'm apparently one of those long leg, short torso, men who can't get a proper fitting bike.
@keithbowen9561
@keithbowen9561 10 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more on the Aethos - so frustrating!! - Wanted one so bad until I saw the geometry numbers.
@clew4349
@clew4349 10 ай бұрын
All good and appropriate observations! I've been looking at both the Aethos and Roubaix. Totally agree the Aethos geometry is too aggressive...it is a racing geometry for someone who doesn't use it for racing (otherwise he/she would get a Tarmac!). I really like the geometry of the Roubaix, but with todays wide rims and tubeless tires, the spring in the head tube is redundant. Keep it simple! if Specialized created an Aethos with the Roubaix endurance geometry that would be a winner and I would line up to buy it! All the fancy integrated bar/stems, etc...only accomplishes to create frustration and aches/pains for the rider, and more profit for the bike shop (to change it for the customer). Hopefully someone at Specialized is listening...
@xelseartheonlyone1267
@xelseartheonlyone1267 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the amazing and helpful videos.
@RAP4EVERMRC96
@RAP4EVERMRC96 10 ай бұрын
I actually find the grails handelbar quite interesting. I guess it gives you a lot of comfort while on the middle of the bars.
@andyknapp212
@andyknapp212 9 ай бұрын
The shock absorbing center section of the Grail's top section of bar has limited usefulness. When you are riding on rougher gravel roads, you want your hands in a wider position for best control. I find that it's better to be riding the hoods in those cases. The upper position is useful when you want to back-off-the-gas and vary your hand position and posture on longer rides. When you are in the drops, it is significant that the Grail's front end design gives you the posture of a road bike. So, when you are on paved roads, getting to the gravel, it's faster. The debate is this, do you really take advantage of the upper bar section enough of the time to justify a unique front-end design which prevents component swapping?
@lukasusluk
@lukasusluk 8 ай бұрын
Any suggestions for models of gravel bikes (I want possibility of wider tyres) which fit well to people with longer legs and shorter torso?
@Dimashoey
@Dimashoey 10 ай бұрын
JAMES! AETHOS HAS DIFFERENT GEO THAN TARMAC..Please check again
@shimona500
@shimona500 10 ай бұрын
3mm shorter reach 10mm higher stack in size 58
@123oner2
@123oner2 10 ай бұрын
Thoughts on the Basso in the background, any good? Thanks
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786
@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 9 ай бұрын
James - The Bike Curmudgeon! Tell us what you really think! This rant was 100% spot-on as well as funny. He touched on something I've wondered about. Back-in-the-day handlebars had grooves in them for brake and shift cables so once installed you could wrap 'em with tape and everything was good. WTF doesn't the industry do the same with all these (silly) one-piece "aero" shaped things? Is it too hard/expensive, like putting a hook on a wheel rim to keep the tire on? Even if they insist on running all the stuff through the headtube/frame this could at least make swapping-out a bar/stem or one-piece "cockpit" (Oh, how I hate that word!) not an all-day, expensive, complicated project. But does the industry care if the bike fits anyway? T-shirt sizes. Just buy one and ride it...or better yet, don't ride it, just buy it. Less warranty claims that way!
@10tealeaf
@10tealeaf 8 ай бұрын
Never heard or experienced creeking on My 2017 Roubaix's F shock. The thing just works😊
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 3 ай бұрын
I disagree with the Roubaix in Idahowe have huge cracks in the roads and the headshock really takes the edge off the bumps. I love it
@EnCoReHu
@EnCoReHu 10 ай бұрын
Good thing I watched this video, the Ribble Endurance SL was my first pick for my next bike lol
@stuartdilts2729
@stuartdilts2729 10 ай бұрын
I have a specialized divergence with the future shock stem, and it does help a lot on gravel and single track. I am dreading when it needs service, however, and I can't find any documentation on what that looks like.
@Atomb
@Atomb 9 ай бұрын
My 2018 is still perfect without service. I'm a huge fan.
@trogers00100
@trogers00100 3 ай бұрын
Wow. This guy actually knows what he's talking about! Excessive reach is an affliction of almost every gym-bike out there as well as most of the 'endurance' bikes.
@timkwist6720
@timkwist6720 9 ай бұрын
For anyone else who just wants to see the list before going through the whole video: * Specialized Aethos * Ribble Endurance SL * Liv bikes * Bianchi Oltre * Giant Conduct * Specialized Roubaix * Canyon Grail * Trek Madone * Orbea Orca Aero
@PhyRexia.
@PhyRexia. 9 ай бұрын
@James: Do you know a good bike fitter in Switzerland/could you recommend one? I would love to visit one, but going by homepages is kind of a guessing game… thx!
@dpgrenfree
@dpgrenfree 10 ай бұрын
Love my Aethos but... Spesh said I needed an XL, I wanted an L, since changed to 38cm bars and 80mm stem.. still using every spacer. Feels great now though 😀
@shimona500
@shimona500 10 ай бұрын
When in between sizing down is better, easier to fit
@TheLazarop
@TheLazarop 10 ай бұрын
Is James’ shirt available to buy? I checked the Bicycle website but did not see it.
@klausbinn777
@klausbinn777 10 ай бұрын
I’ll see your Trek Madone with the brake calliper under the bottom bracket and raise you my Specialized Stumpjumper from 1988 with it’s similarly placed U-brake. Think it’s a d*g sh*t idea on a road bike? Try racing it just outside Edinburgh after a particularly wet winter or in the Grundig World Cup at Aviemore the year after. Amazing how useful small sticks are as scrapers…
@taavisepp
@taavisepp 6 ай бұрын
You missed my first bike - Specialized Sequoia from 2017. Overpriced with a pair of basic wheels that weighed 4kg. Steel frame with all the contact points for long distance travel and gravel handlebars. I think the maker was a bit confused when designing it.
@ashleybrooks985
@ashleybrooks985 9 ай бұрын
I have no knowledge of the bikes in the video but watching James rant about stuff is very cleansing for the soul.
@DurianriderCyclingTips
@DurianriderCyclingTips 10 ай бұрын
FTR Madone first featured chainstay brake in 2013 model which was first sold worldwide in August 2012. The 2012 Madone was the LAST true race Madone Trek sold. IYKYK. Those bontrager cork pads are pretty laughable! Ive still got them on one of my bikes and laugh how crap they are and how bad they give rim brakes to some.
@gosbusta
@gosbusta 10 ай бұрын
Ribble Ultra SL R. I guess this is my fault. But I was looking at upgrading to some sort of aero frame because, fast and realized that they don’t offer stems / handlebars in different sizes. As in if you want a 42/100 you are up a creek. You can get a 36/100, way too narrow for me or a 42/120, way too long for me. Just saying, I want aero but does it really have to be this way?
@rivnuts7398
@rivnuts7398 10 ай бұрын
It seems the various bicycle brands would do well to hire or contract with a professional bike fitter as they conceive, develop and market their bikes to, at least, get their input.
@Xarx42
@Xarx42 10 ай бұрын
I agree. Simplon for example is doing it this way. You can only get their bikes in certain stores with a partnership and usually in combination with a bike fit.
@cjohnson3836
@cjohnson3836 10 ай бұрын
I don't think that's the problem. Its not that they don't know how to fit a bike to an average mortal. Its that average mortals want (and probably think they need) a race geometry. Its the same reason no one lines up frothing over a Honda Civic.
@monkmchorning
@monkmchorning 6 ай бұрын
The first aero Madone was in 2013. The one thing Trek did get right was H1.5. they were just 14 years too late with it.
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