Pro Tour Chicago 1999 Final - Brian Davis vs Bob Maher

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@b0juka_mtg
@b0juka_mtg 4 жыл бұрын
The lack of sleeves is killing me
@psychicdogtv
@psychicdogtv 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload. I could tell you all some great stories about how this all went down, and how audience interference between bathroom breaks caused me to misplay my own deck. :-(
@GaeasBlessing
@GaeasBlessing 9 жыл бұрын
Wastelands were like $2 back then. Duals were $10 and I got most of mine for $5 before they got "expensive." Ah, the good ol' days.
@xylophone897
@xylophone897 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing Magic against the Dark Confidant himself.
@XxSgTMedleNxX
@XxSgTMedleNxX 5 жыл бұрын
it's kinda easy to forget re watching this sometimes that Brian Davis is only 15 right here. dude was still a kid.
@Fromaginator
@Fromaginator 11 жыл бұрын
This is straight up the most interesting match of magic I've ever seen broadcast
@adamkaneshiro
@adamkaneshiro 4 жыл бұрын
This video takes me back! Loved playing the game and riffle shuffling without sleeves and not thinking about card value and just having fun
@Panquernic
@Panquernic 8 жыл бұрын
I love the laughs, it's like a MTG sitcom
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 8 жыл бұрын
+AngryMidgetProd things were so much more laid back back in the day i like that. it feels like a game instead of stiff and grave like it is now
@purpandorange
@purpandorange 7 жыл бұрын
Cheating was also common strategy back then
@rayman09tr
@rayman09tr 9 жыл бұрын
back when sleeves where unecassary, now people have double sleeves.
@jonathanmontgomery5178
@jonathanmontgomery5178 8 жыл бұрын
Now I know where Reid Duke got his hair style inspiration
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious comment, even 4 years later 😂👍
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 3 жыл бұрын
ahhaahahahahahaa
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 3 жыл бұрын
@@bumpasaurus487 lmfao 5 years now. that hair never changes
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 3 жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuxmycock my older brother had a similar hair style in highschool in 1998, only his was also partially bleached, very Shawn from “boy meets world”😂😂, or Eric Matthews also from BMW
@Daemeon93
@Daemeon93 10 жыл бұрын
These classic looking cards look pretty badass. They look almost like they came out of an ancient tome with so much knowledge
@sebastianwest1394
@sebastianwest1394 4 жыл бұрын
Here we are 20 years later
@jamiecruz4421
@jamiecruz4421 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else cringe while watching Bob shuffle those legacy duals without sleeves?
@burtreynoldz6308
@burtreynoldz6308 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Davis- The only man to loose a pro tour final 5-0
@MitremTheMighty
@MitremTheMighty 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow the production value of this is way higher than it has been for the last decade.
@Mentir42
@Mentir42 4 жыл бұрын
JustSomeGuy ..... in what way? They had to remove the sleeves because the cameras weren't that good, the crowd disrupts the tournament because every time something is happening they shout, some amount of the time you don't know what is happening because the camera is on player A while player B does something. Also the commentary nowadays is better, less of that "he should do X" where X is something that is either not really the right play or only the right play if you have perfect information. So I don't see that
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mentir42 did u like your own comment? Just wondering...😂😂
@Mentir42
@Mentir42 3 жыл бұрын
@@bumpasaurus487 I get the option to like it now so I guess I didnt? Could just be some youtube update shenanigans that make the system not realize who liked, idk, it was a year ago after all. I don't remember ever liking my own comments, so with all the evidence I currently have I would say Nope, I did not. Someone else may have felt the same way I did or felt compelled to like for some other reason
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 жыл бұрын
No it’s not. That’s just silly
@iDATUS
@iDATUS 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I was there and part of the English hoard. Tony Dobson got into the top eight and I watched that live. Rules were very strict then. It was a good venue at the Hyatt hotel. I also went to the 2000 one again at the same place.
@dinnahgod8349
@dinnahgod8349 4 жыл бұрын
Rudy must be going nuts watching this match without sleeves being used.
@shadowcatX2000
@shadowcatX2000 10 жыл бұрын
And that is how magic is meant to be played.
@alex-_-w
@alex-_-w 8 жыл бұрын
2am... and still watching... why did I start? need sleep...but it's to great to watch 😀👌 gotta love mtg!!!
@patoka13
@patoka13 8 жыл бұрын
+Alex W it's 2:30 am here and i haven't slept for more than 30 hours....must...keep...watching.... it's so hard to keep up with all those comments and to overthink all the decisions by yourself in this state. i have to rewind the video like a million times, the comments often are too fast for me to get the first time, too. but it's so worth it. i will never forget this match. just like i will never forget craig jones and olivier ruel in honolulu. great stuff
@Timodj13
@Timodj13 4 жыл бұрын
The tensions are so high, everyone laughs at any hint of nervousness. The crowd erupts in joy at the excellence in knowledge and skill, as well as luck displayed by both players... meanwhile the announcers roast everyone 😂
@Thatguy101987
@Thatguy101987 4 жыл бұрын
He has a beanie baby on the table, how 90s can this get.
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 3 жыл бұрын
LMFAO i know right. that was hilarious
@samueljett7807
@samueljett7807 2 жыл бұрын
I have that same beanie baby lol
@MeridiusReloaded
@MeridiusReloaded 4 жыл бұрын
No sleeves, greatness at any cost.
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@barrywatson1040
@barrywatson1040 6 жыл бұрын
A few things I noticed in this match that may explain why Davis made the choices he did but I am in no way justifying said choices: 1. Davis didn't Waste Bob's land because he was playing around Disrupt. Which was dumb because Bob played 1 copy of Disrupt and 4x Force of Will. 2. Davis discarded Wasteland when he was getting smashed by Villages because he didn't realize that Sacred Ground's effect would be triggered after disk blew. 3. Davis figured after not seeing Disrupt go off the whole match, after playing around it early, that he would maximize his Drain because only threat is a Force, which wouldn't matter if he tapped out anyway. Ends up getting Disrupted instead. 4. Worst misplay of the match, Davis forces Bob to discard Counterspell over Force of Will thinking that if he forces Bob to use a remaining Counterspell to cast Force of Will then he will have eliminated 3 of the 4 counters in his hand. Obviously he didn't realize that card advantage obtained via that route is no different then taking away Bob's ability to counter the first Drain and getting card advantage through Necro instead. 5. When Davis left four mana available before the Swords to Plowshares went off, he just went for it thinking he only loses to a hard counter because at this point he stopped playing around Disrupt. If he were playing around Disrupt he would have left one mana up instead of four. He was obviously clueless that Swords was not sided completely out of Bob's deck. In short, Davis' biggest downfall in this match was thinking too much about what Bob could be holding and being afraid of the wrong cards.
@psychicdogtv
@psychicdogtv 5 жыл бұрын
all true! :)
@Shalomas84
@Shalomas84 2 жыл бұрын
@@psychicdogtv I actually still agree with you that taking force is the right call. If bob doesn't get to 2 mana to cast those counterspells then the 1 force doesn't matter and if he does he is down one counter this way.
@Reinhardt_Kozlowski
@Reinhardt_Kozlowski Жыл бұрын
Two others: 6) He missed an on-board kill at 59:30, didn't end up mattering but in other games it could've easily cost him the game (7) He should not have conceded game 2. A top decked corrupt, drain, or consult would've won him the game. Another wasteland may have bought him an extra turn. OVerall I think the biggest issue was him being too conservative with the consults. Should've consulted for a skirge or the second disk game 1. Numerous places where he should've consulted for lands.
@drexciya8083
@drexciya8083 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this
@jamesbowen7628
@jamesbowen7628 7 жыл бұрын
I feel for Davis after that first game, all the confidence left him in a matter of seconds
@LastAirshipGames
@LastAirshipGames 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, the 90's! Back when music was soft and Magic was heavy.
@SirZapdos
@SirZapdos 2 жыл бұрын
12:43 Brian doesn't Wasteland 16:10 Bob draws Ivory Mask 22:36 Bob gets Null Rod 46:40 Brian's Drain Life for 4 1:17:46 Bob's pump fake
@Trip_Fontaine
@Trip_Fontaine Жыл бұрын
I don't think 12:43 is quite the unambiguous mistake that the commentators made it ought to be. I think I see Demonic Consultation in hand. He was merely leaving mana to use that. I think it's a bad judgement call still.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 7 ай бұрын
@@Trip_Fontainethat mis play costed him the game. He would’ve been much better off to waste land first.
@Trip_Fontaine
@Trip_Fontaine 7 ай бұрын
@@nickfanzo Yeah, I'm liking the play even less now that I think about it more. Maybe it was a clear mistake. It's not like he somehow loses the Demonic Consultation if he doesn't do it that turn. The Corrupt is too crucial to screw around with.
@king-dt4fl
@king-dt4fl 8 жыл бұрын
People asking why no sleeves etc in like 500 comments on this video. 1.) Sleeves were banned at a certain point of magic- they thought it would stop cheating or something to that extent. 2.) The cards they are playing with at that time are worth a max of 10$... dualands - 10 bucks, force of wills maybe 5 to 10 bucks. 3.) Also the game was no where near what it is today of more than possibly triple the player base, no magic online back then, the internet was only mainstream for 2 years when this tournament was held 1999... and to be honest the internet sucked back then.... Hell if we had any video's of people playing magic in 1993-- if any even exist-- you would see Alpha black lotus and power 9 and the original dual lands being done the exact same way as in this video..... Just goes to show you how times change...... my ohhh my how times change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jaird582
@jaird582 10 жыл бұрын
Ryan Gosling plays very well.
@Moacirlucas
@Moacirlucas 6 жыл бұрын
jair d the fat matt damon too
@elguido78
@elguido78 6 жыл бұрын
I played there myself in 99, still remember meeting maher after this final (i played a similar oath deck)
@juergensmutek
@juergensmutek 7 ай бұрын
Haha, I played too :)
@BentTimeAndSpace
@BentTimeAndSpace 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, the craziest parts of this video are the moments the players slammed cards down especially when Maher slammed the ivory mask and slammed the null rod in game 1 😂😂
@thatcoolgaydude7256
@thatcoolgaydude7256 3 ай бұрын
This video always gives me the best nostalgia
@t1glistenerelf
@t1glistenerelf 11 жыл бұрын
Hey, we know that it's easy for them, and us, to judge when we can see what's in both players' hands; you can tell us, from experience, that it's a whole different ball game when you're sitting at the table. You did extremely well for a first visit IMO.
@juanesquivelmadrid
@juanesquivelmadrid 5 жыл бұрын
watching in 2019!
@prosperwaldmann6954
@prosperwaldmann6954 7 жыл бұрын
Oh god it hurts me so much seeing unsleeved dual lands 😭😭
@bastokrepublic
@bastokrepublic 4 жыл бұрын
In game 1, Brian should not have discarded swamps. He needed to hit every land drop to power his Drains to fuel Necro. I also think it was a mistake to use Wasteland to destroy a land when Bob's hand was already decimated. He needed to continue to develop his mana.
@BentTimeAndSpace
@BentTimeAndSpace 8 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2016
@HanDaimond
@HanDaimond 10 жыл бұрын
Damn, I wish I would've played MTG back then, it looked insane; I was 18 back in 1999.
@gratefuldoge8598
@gratefuldoge8598 3 жыл бұрын
I was 9 and am just now learning 😂
@Sidecutt3
@Sidecutt3 9 жыл бұрын
I love how you can hear the crowds reactions in this tournament, i hope they would mic the crowd sounds in upcoming pro tours.
@FRStratos
@FRStratos 9 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I feel like improving coverage would make magic a much more interesting spectator sport
@thomasgrabowski2202
@thomasgrabowski2202 4 жыл бұрын
That's some serious shuffling haha Omg those cards are done x'D
@tempestandacomputer6951
@tempestandacomputer6951 7 жыл бұрын
Wow the quality on this is better than some of the 2000's stuff. I swear i can't find a good video for the lightning helix topdeck :l
@DanieruMiranda
@DanieruMiranda 4 жыл бұрын
I’m watching this in 2019 😎👌
@KaDrD
@KaDrD 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2019
@Jorge_AS_Fernandes
@Jorge_AS_Fernandes 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2018. MTG is the best!
@rsh0561
@rsh0561 9 жыл бұрын
The troll at the end of game 4 there was so good.
@clayvision
@clayvision 8 жыл бұрын
This is a great match, and its great for two reasons, for one is it really cool to see these old cards we have never heard of in action alongside these busted cards we know and love today like FOW and Enlightened tutor, and secondly in all these matches one of the players (usually brian davis) makes a mistake that compiles onto itself for future decisions, and it really shows how punishing your poor decision making can be in this game, in the last game when he didnt take the FOW if he took the FOW, he would have had more spells to bait the counters, and he also likely would have been able to define the gamestate much sooner, instead he took the counterspell, and if he had that extra 3 life, it very well may have saved him from being necro-locked not to mention it may have drawn him a discard spell to pick apart his opponents hand
@backpackingtrips4100
@backpackingtrips4100 3 жыл бұрын
What a vid.. great final
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 6 жыл бұрын
1:17:40 has gotta be one of the funniest moments of MtG history. "Activate Treetop Village..... Nah, I'm dead!" XD
@Tylerbremner
@Tylerbremner 3 ай бұрын
The shuffling is hilarious. Game pieces. Love it
@brianm2242
@brianm2242 11 жыл бұрын
I find this to be FAR more entertaining than any tournament feed nowadays.
@Strype13
@Strype13 7 жыл бұрын
19:35 - Look how beat up that top card on Brian's deck is. That, my friends, is why sleeves have basically become mandatory.
@drackoex
@drackoex 4 жыл бұрын
The judge at that table made an AMA on reddit He inidcated that bob himself (and brian) were instrumental in changing wotcs policy on sleeves There was a strong push for it and eventually they caved but you hhad to use wotc sleeves which wrre horrendous
@adamschorsch9943
@adamschorsch9943 8 жыл бұрын
What pains me about the no sleeves isn't the damage being done to the cards, it's the simple fact that some of their cards are *SO* badly mangled that they're marked. When you look at your opponent's library and there are cards with straight-up creases all over the place...
@fireemblemistrash75
@fireemblemistrash75 8 жыл бұрын
Ever see a soiled Black lotus.... It hurts
@fireemblemistrash75
@fireemblemistrash75 8 жыл бұрын
Or when the top half of their deck is lifting into the air.... The inhumanity.
@Gondor80
@Gondor80 4 жыл бұрын
that laughtrack in the background is always on cue :P
@hiimemily
@hiimemily 8 жыл бұрын
"Alright, so Bob has a land and a card... Brian's only got two permanents, right?" pffffffft
@jasonjara3453
@jasonjara3453 4 жыл бұрын
OG duals and FoW played without sleeves. Hurts my feeling everytime.
@annabellethorpe2542
@annabellethorpe2542 9 жыл бұрын
the pain the pain
@pablomartinez8601
@pablomartinez8601 4 жыл бұрын
Dark confidant playing unsleeved duals wastelands and fows what else can i ask for
@hazelcarlson24
@hazelcarlson24 2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I actually interviewed Brian Davis @ PT Chicago 99 for a school project & straight up asked him if he had taken any bribe(s) in exchange for taking a dive in this series
@berzerkerspam
@berzerkerspam 9 жыл бұрын
the pain of watching this video is large
@tylerwood5019
@tylerwood5019 3 жыл бұрын
It's been said multiple times already, but the lack of sleeves hurts my soul.
@cyber_spock
@cyber_spock 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most beautiful black deck, jeez
@Panquernic
@Panquernic 8 жыл бұрын
It's not only the lack of sleeves, but the cards (at least from Brian Davis' side) look almost like they got wet, really warped at the edges
@Nonsense116
@Nonsense116 4 жыл бұрын
hey the camera quality is the same as the 2018 world champs.
@labitx
@labitx 11 жыл бұрын
In those days sleeves were considered a way for deck marking. Thus to prevent any sleight of hand or any tricks, no sleeves were allowed in the finals of the tournaments, until they realise with sleeve many more things can be controlled =)
@nightcricket3562
@nightcricket3562 4 жыл бұрын
This is how its meant to be played
@t1glistenerelf
@t1glistenerelf 11 жыл бұрын
THIS! MUST! HAPPEN!
@jaymorgan3433
@jaymorgan3433 4 жыл бұрын
Those Force of Wills being just man-handled 😲😲😲😲
@shibbidydoowop
@shibbidydoowop 3 жыл бұрын
Lol @ the tag protector on that beenie baby. Man that brings me back
@Darksteelturilli
@Darksteelturilli 11 жыл бұрын
3:16 The referee "What am I doing with my life?" Lol!!
@kevinagee4364
@kevinagee4364 7 жыл бұрын
what card did he use at the end to win?
@user-kq3ew5qx7s
@user-kq3ew5qx7s 4 жыл бұрын
Why is he in his hand At Demonic Consultation Whether it's a disc or another valid card?
@glen2003
@glen2003 9 жыл бұрын
Noob question guys... exactly how does necropotence work? And the other cards on the deck? How does it beat the opponent?
@begthediffer
@begthediffer Жыл бұрын
I never knew that Tim Dillon was playing mtg during Urza's Block!
@chiefsilverstacker1176
@chiefsilverstacker1176 4 жыл бұрын
I wish cards were still a correct value so I could play without sleeves
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor 9 жыл бұрын
I got this all confused, must have been a different pro tour where the player accidentally drew 4 cards off brainstorm to lose the finals.
@christianthurow
@christianthurow 4 жыл бұрын
OMG this hurts so much to watch them play without sleeves..
@RyanJohnson
@RyanJohnson 11 жыл бұрын
Maher oath is so much fun to play. Back in the GP trials following this event I was in the finals playing oath and this was the exact match up. Came down to him Spinning Darkness-ing his own Skirge to Draw into the win. So I lost a GP Trial, but god, that was magic at its finest. This match up to me is one of the pinnacles of magic. Shame Oath of Druids of banned in Legacy.
@THExMADxHATT3R
@THExMADxHATT3R 11 жыл бұрын
they did on espn, they moved it to live streaming because then you can have everything in one place for easy access
@Ya_Boy_Freddy
@Ya_Boy_Freddy 9 ай бұрын
I am... confused by the seemingly random untapping? He casts ritual, then untaps that land to cast his drain, and at the very end, he consults for a swamp, untaps the swamp used on consult and drops the swamp to cast corrupt?
@ReformedThe
@ReformedThe 7 жыл бұрын
nice a hard cast force of will. I have literally never seen that before today. lol
@kriji
@kriji 6 жыл бұрын
2018 funny to see those cards get shuffled like this without sleeves
@nimbuscapitalsolution
@nimbuscapitalsolution 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the point of necro when you can't do much until you hit 5-6mana . There's very little 1 for 1 trade spells to utilize necro. I don't get Davis deck at all.
@InFlames88ad
@InFlames88ad 4 жыл бұрын
are there decklists existing somewhere? im really curious
@erickr404
@erickr404 10 жыл бұрын
Brian must have been scared as hell for a few moments at 1:17:45... nice prank!
@keixoun
@keixoun 10 жыл бұрын
these little pranks are one of my favourite things about magic
@SpiritualOnslaught
@SpiritualOnslaught 8 жыл бұрын
oldschool!!
@jeremywilson4675
@jeremywilson4675 Жыл бұрын
The shuffling though. I cry.
@BBradshawProductions
@BBradshawProductions 8 жыл бұрын
Remember the days when you play with dual lands without sleeves and not give a shit?
@kingbarrows1
@kingbarrows1 8 жыл бұрын
+BBradshawProductions this is hurting me to watch right now! power shuffling duals wastelands force of wills, its killing me
@fireemblemistrash75
@fireemblemistrash75 8 жыл бұрын
Lol, back when they only costed $20-$30.
@wolfstorm123
@wolfstorm123 8 жыл бұрын
+CommanderSh!mi X less than that.
@fireemblemistrash75
@fireemblemistrash75 8 жыл бұрын
+wolfstorm123 Thats how much I remember them costing when I started, but yes you are correct that they cost less.
@anonimniprofil3816
@anonimniprofil3816 8 жыл бұрын
That was before wizards invented card AIDS.
@xx415pato7xx456
@xx415pato7xx456 12 жыл бұрын
I like these commentators WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than the current ones, the guy clearly knows what cards do etc etc, what players should do.
@ness87mtg
@ness87mtg 5 жыл бұрын
Now this is Magic
@zyxworld
@zyxworld 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of high school
@moonconfidant9
@moonconfidant9 4 жыл бұрын
マジックが1番盛り上がった時期
@zachoryfostor7368
@zachoryfostor7368 Жыл бұрын
How did he drain for four when it takes two mana to play drain life and he only has five mana on the board? He would drain for three not four or am I looking at it wrong??
@AIMLESS-NAMELESS
@AIMLESS-NAMELESS 3 жыл бұрын
Love the commentators asking the crowd about cards
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 3 жыл бұрын
How come Bob didn’t get a warning when he looked at an extra card by accident, but Brian did?
@birdmanofthewoods4307
@birdmanofthewoods4307 7 жыл бұрын
36:33 "he can plow his own creatures" lol
@stefanoantonioderinaldis8030
@stefanoantonioderinaldis8030 11 жыл бұрын
This video makes my heart crying... All that shuffling is a crime
@Drecon84
@Drecon84 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing this, I'm really glad Wizards decided to make creatures relevant. I mean, the best creatures in this match are Faerie Conclave and Treetop Village... That says something. (Oh yeah, there's a Morphling in Bob's deck too, but still...)
@Flossingame
@Flossingame 7 жыл бұрын
When I played in 94 my local game shop wouldnt allow sleeves in their tournaments. We always asked why and never got a real answer.
@BeardedForever
@BeardedForever 2 жыл бұрын
That first game was brutal!
@psychicdogtv
@psychicdogtv 11 жыл бұрын
Sup bro? I don't know how to respond on KZfaq directly. I still play; currently Top 10 in the MTGO Player of the Year. User: "Royal". I run a coaching site as well.
@axacos
@axacos 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome match up and truly inspirational... Watching the necro being played was a point of no return for me back in the day!
@jerrywhat4799
@jerrywhat4799 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody needs to be coached on how to lose winning games.
@gingtugo3668
@gingtugo3668 3 жыл бұрын
Jerry what? Theres No need of being a f.... Prick dude.
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerrywhat4799 he was 15 years old and had the entire place watching and audibly laughing at his occasional mistakes, it’s totally understandable. I bet you wouldn’t even have made it to the finals in his shoes.
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerrywhat4799 and btw. Bob made plenty of mistakes too, they just weren’t as costly. Like keeping in the oaths and creature removal game after game for no reason.
@joakimandersson7769
@joakimandersson7769 4 жыл бұрын
Riffle Shuffling duals without sleeves... XD
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