PSR Decisions ‘Inconsistent’ | Sports Barrister On Everton, Forest and Leicester Cases

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PSR Decisions ‘Inconsistent’ | Sports Barrister On Everton, Forest and Leicester Cases
Sports barrister Sam Cuthbert speaks to More Than A Game to discuss the Everton, Nottingham Forest and Leicester PSR cases.
Sam outlines the ‘stark variances’ between the decisions, and why litigation and sporting integrity does not work hand in hand.’
Time stamps:
Intro and Forest: 00:00
Leicester: 15:01
Everton’s 2nd case: 22:00
Everton’s mitigation: 39:00
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@MoreThanAGame_
@MoreThanAGame_ Ай бұрын
PSR Decisions ‘Inconsistent’ | Sports Barrister On Everton, Forest and Leicester Cases
@user-fi2db3xp8k
@user-fi2db3xp8k Ай бұрын
It is more like the eurovision song contest rather than football ,FOREST 4 points, EVERTON 8 points ,LEICESTER 12 points , MAN CITY NIL points ,Chelsea nil points , its made football a farce.
@Ruscococo1
@Ruscococo1 Ай бұрын
It's cos City are refusing to give evidence and the premier league can't do anything because they need that evidence. That's why it's taking so long, Everton and Forest admitted it and Chelseas happened in 2010. The 8 year contracts and how they spread the finances they only spent like 120 million last and this season. Without the evidence the premier league cant do anything, so city will probably admit a few charges and get a few points taken off the rest will be left unproven unless they give the evidence.
@craigshackleton1652
@craigshackleton1652 Ай бұрын
I would ask the question are we the only club in the top flight that has overspent while building a new stadium or massively extending an existing ground? The new Tottenham ground is the elephant in the room for me. How did they build a £1 billion stadium and live within the rules?
@nigelbaldwin1038
@nigelbaldwin1038 Ай бұрын
Brentford built a new stadium during Covid. Plus they had to sell their best players to keep within the rules. Everton’s and Forest whingeing is embarrassing !!!
@mewilliams5303
@mewilliams5303 Ай бұрын
@@nigelbaldwin1038prick
@jemmace2586
@jemmace2586 Ай бұрын
The Premier League via Richard Master's have already stated, when asked for the minutes of the meetings as to how the process worked to ascertain the decision to sum up EFC first charge of suggested twelve point deduction, They or he replied, "we don't have to show you anything, we are a private company" basically that is surely their attitude, period. How can there be any expectation or recourse to issue's with their rulings or stances towards, "small clubs".
@Jiminy_Bob
@Jiminy_Bob Ай бұрын
Forest were NOT in breach of rules in the football league. So not sure why you're saying they were at the 13:37 mark. I refer you to 12.97 in the Independent Commissions report: "It notes that Forest was compliant in the EFL, but then invested heavily once in the Premier League and breached the PSR."
@Toffeeabi81
@Toffeeabi81 Ай бұрын
Great video this make it more understandable leagally and the club accunting practices along with they moderated. Its absolutely farce how these cases have played out.
@wddrs
@wddrs Ай бұрын
The thing that is not spelt out in clear terms for Forest: -Had a squad value of £12m and 12 first team players when promoted -The next closest squad value was Bournemouth with £130m. -They had 70 days to bridge a £118m gap with £61m in allowable losses. The fact that they only breached for 2 months is astounding! They also have players who have risen in value for future sales (Danilo, Murillo, MGW, Elanga, CHO) having already sold Mangala for £25m (purchased for £10m).
@eltel4397
@eltel4397 Ай бұрын
This the best podcast seen ever . Why do we after sell our best players . FFP PSR not fit for purpose. Masters & Co just go!!! Premier league finished like Spain Italy France Scotland only 2 teams can win the league . Wfybthe sly 6 get away with anything I wish they did leave now
@stuartstaves8881
@stuartstaves8881 Ай бұрын
Excellent podcast
@edten7319
@edten7319 Ай бұрын
13.30 Nottingham forest were not in breach in the EFL years (£13 mill lose per year allowance). Yes they made 40 mill loss in the promotion season. But this included promotion bonuses at 21 mill. If they lost the playoff final they wouldn't have not had to pay the bonuses at 21mill and would of just loss 19 mill which was 6 more than allowed but they had headroom as previous year they only lost 3.5 mill.
@tonysobevski9961
@tonysobevski9961 Ай бұрын
We should change the narrative here..let's forget about the fa's rules for a minute, more on that later.. Does the fa get points deducted, or executive 's get sacked if they don't make a profit or meet there financial goals ( budget) for the year.. it's on the clubs, how they run there business. Whether they make money or not, u can't punish them if they fail to do so.. it's bad business and management, let them sort it out themselves.. it's just life, happens everywhere in the real world doesn't it. Companies, corporations football clubs, some make money some don't.. Regarding the premier league, how can u have the same rules across the board, for an uneven competition.. smaller clubs, with less sponsorship 's , less capacity stadiums can't be dealt with with the same brush.. it's very unfair, teams like man city, Liverpool, man utd have far more financial muscle can go and spend millions more or player's they want and always be higher on the ladder cause of this.. other teams, spend what they can just to avoid relegation and compete in the league ( survival mode) really.. this model , keeps the smaller clubs at the lower end of the ladder always. Then they cop , sanctions on top of it. Madness really. Why haven't city or Chelsea received any punishment, I'll tell u why. By they time they come out and say this is what they've done wrong, these r the charges. The fa would of change the rules by then, they get away with it, no punishment.. it's why Everton, Forrest, foxes r receiving there's right now. Fa trying to intimidate the smaller clubs, keeping them where they r.. showing the UK government and regulatory 's , we're doing our job correctly and adhering to our own rules. We don't need u to intervine, corruption, var all started from the top. The suits upstairs r running scared, cause they might get caught and found out. What's really happening here..they say 2 yrs time, they will have the conclusion on city's alleged 115 charges. Chelsea spend 500 million in a month, yet u deduct points of these other clubs.. give me a break, don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining.. I see thru your corruption and bullshit fa, should be ashamed of yourselves..
@JayEFC1969
@JayEFC1969 Ай бұрын
3:42 Luton haven't stayed up without breaching PSR .. yet !
@susanna3375
@susanna3375 Ай бұрын
Perhaps he's confident of what the PL / PSR / PGMOL is going to engineer. The PL know it's bad press when all three promoted clubs go down. This year they are so very bad that they have had to work really hard with their dark arts to achieve their planned outcome of Luton staying up. But if they are successful in getting Luton to stay up, they will turn on Luton next year and relegate them.
@nigelbaldwin1038
@nigelbaldwin1038 Ай бұрын
Exactly nor have Brentford. Everton trying to plead their innocence is pathetic …..
@nigelbaldwin1038
@nigelbaldwin1038 Ай бұрын
@@susanna3375🤡
@JayEFC1969
@JayEFC1969 Ай бұрын
@@nigelbaldwin1038 no they've said there are mitigating circumstances. Funny how it was good enough for West Ham.
@nigelbaldwin1038
@nigelbaldwin1038 Ай бұрын
@@JayEFC1969 Have you broken the rules ? YES
@nedlamb9804
@nedlamb9804 Ай бұрын
Brilliant
@MatthewP-pr7st
@MatthewP-pr7st Ай бұрын
Thanks for the insightful conversation, keep up the good work.
@stevefitzhenry6376
@stevefitzhenry6376 Ай бұрын
Christ it’s John AGAIN
@user-qg9bk7wb9q
@user-qg9bk7wb9q Ай бұрын
It dosent matter we aint getting them back
@nigelbaldwin1038
@nigelbaldwin1038 Ай бұрын
Have Everton broken the rules ( on numerous occasions ) 🤔
@user-ph7sf3bi4q
@user-ph7sf3bi4q 28 күн бұрын
Applying the Rules ? But not for all teams.. and Football has nothing to do . With there wars.
@davidragen1851
@davidragen1851 Ай бұрын
Where is our compensation for having to play with an extra 4 points for 3 months when we got 10 points when we should of got 6, surely there is a case for that for extra points back when forest got 2 back straight away. That is discrimination towards Everton surely to god 😡
@abnrgr7569
@abnrgr7569 Ай бұрын
How come Lesiester city now in CL ain't getting points taken from them when they were wrong when in PL? Now powers say they can't dock them ??
@udaybagan277
@udaybagan277 Ай бұрын
more than a game stick to tennis boys you know more about that game !!!!
@MoreThanAGame_
@MoreThanAGame_ Ай бұрын
😂
@_RandomPea
@_RandomPea Ай бұрын
Fed up of football, not that we can call it that anymore. var and psr slowly destroying the love for the game. The only way they stop and take notice of fans would be a full boycott, but that is never going to happen and they know it.
@user-qg9bk7wb9q
@user-qg9bk7wb9q Ай бұрын
It is and thats shite as well
@neilt1889
@neilt1889 Ай бұрын
Its quite smiple all the clubs signed up to these rules to stop clubs getting into financial difficulties ie £35m lose per year in the premier and £12m per year in the champ and the dates you have to put your finances to the league committee so if you break the rules you have take it on the chin that you ( Cheated) and got found out and if you increase the limits you are encouraging a club to loose even more money !!
@tulyar57
@tulyar57 Ай бұрын
Neither Forest or Everton hid their losses so the claim of cheating is both ignorant and erroneous. The limits were not adjusted for inflation either. Points deductions was never proscribed as a suitable punishment so 'taking it on the chin' when Everton in particular were handed a bigger punishment for an overspend than if they had gone into administration is laughable and naive.
@neilt1889
@neilt1889 Ай бұрын
@@tulyar57 If you know the rules and break them its cheating and as for not taking in the rise in inflation thats still wrong football is the only Business that encourages to loose money
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