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Psychology of Belief Part 8: Need for Closure

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Philosophy: Engineered!

Philosophy: Engineered!

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Have you ever wondered why people are so prone to "God of the Gaps" thinking?
Here's how it works:
Religious belief is highly correlated with need for cognitive closure. Need for closure is then highly correlated with a propensity for primacy. This means whenever a question comes up that begs for an answer, the natural tendency for such people is to latch on to whatever answer comes along first to fill in the ambiguity. Since "God did it" is such a classic answer to so many deep questions about the universe itself, many people cannot help but use this answer to fill in their questions.
So what's the solution?
Unless you are an expert in whatever cosmic issue is being questioned, learn to feel happy with telling people "I don't know, and neither do you." Even this response can fill the need for closure, but now we're at least being honest. We also leave ourselves much more open to learning the real answer when it is finally presented with honest, academic discipline.

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@Erik-yw9kj
@Erik-yw9kj 9 жыл бұрын
Observation: I have no clue how everything got here. Conclusion: I know exactly how everything got here. WUT.
@LegioDecemGJCAESAR
@LegioDecemGJCAESAR 6 жыл бұрын
Erik this is some bull, how the hell can this insanity infect societies even when they call it out in other culture's?! How can they be so arrogant to say it was bad in the Babylonians, Roman Republic, Egyptians, Greeks etc, yet they are right and they are better..... FFS, religion is a scary method of control !!
@swolejeezy2603
@swolejeezy2603 4 жыл бұрын
I’m stealing that line btw
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 3 жыл бұрын
@@LegioDecemGJCAESAR more like a dangerous poison. And they wonder: u say you don't believe my God even is real yet spend such time hating and caring about it so much.
@lucofparis4819
@lucofparis4819 3 жыл бұрын
You sir are so massively underappreciated by the KZfaq algorithm and community. You deserve so much more visibility and traction.
@roswel1_draws
@roswel1_draws 11 жыл бұрын
Everyone should watch this series. Especially this video. Thank you so much for making these!
@leslieviljoen
@leslieviljoen 3 жыл бұрын
This is so brilliant. I've listened to this series more than 5 times now.
@mikehill7210
@mikehill7210 5 жыл бұрын
I fell asleep with KZfaq on autoplay. Somehow I ended up here. Thank God I did.
@idiosyncraticlawyer3400
@idiosyncraticlawyer3400 3 жыл бұрын
Irony.
@mdak06
@mdak06 11 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be hearing "consider the following experiment" in my dreams now.
@MegaChickenfish
@MegaChickenfish 8 жыл бұрын
20 seconds in and I'm already mad. _That's just great._ "Yeah when your silly little 'science' has all the answers then I'll start listening." Just ignore the sound of goalposts moving, and moving, and moving ever since science disproved the flat earth idea. (through remarkably clever mechanics of their time, I might add) But no no no, let's listen to the people that *honestly* say that they don't know everything but are working on it instead of the people who *lie* that they do, and thus don't need to do any research at all.
@jkuever
@jkuever 13 жыл бұрын
This series is so well done. Thank you for all of your hard work in putting them together!
@TinoMC82
@TinoMC82 8 жыл бұрын
La mejor serie que he visto nunca en youtube. Espectacular!
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 8 жыл бұрын
+Tino Mollinedo Wi.
@davidharford3873
@davidharford3873 9 жыл бұрын
This video.........bloody excellent!
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
"There are only two theories on how time works." Classic false dichotomy. There are WAY more theories than that.
@rhouck8407
@rhouck8407 4 жыл бұрын
Uploaded 9 years ago and I keep coming back regularly for refreshers. I have yet to find a better piece that has the actual experiments and terminology in a still easy to follow presentation.
@KendrixTermina
@KendrixTermina 10 жыл бұрын
I also like how your videos end not with accusation, but with a positive and respectful suggestion of how to make our lives better.
@CerberusCheerleader
@CerberusCheerleader 12 жыл бұрын
"Unless we can provide a clear and detailed answer to a given question, we must learn to be perfectly comfortable with the the concept of 'I don't know'. It is firm, it is honest and it SATISFIES THE NEED FOR CLOSURE that so many of us possess." That last part certainly surprised me.
@behrensf84
@behrensf84 5 жыл бұрын
There are some practical applications to this. When you start a new job, work really hard for the first 3 months so people will think you are a hard worker. After that you are free to slack off. People’s image of you will be primed to think you are a hard worker...
@janisir4529
@janisir4529 9 жыл бұрын
These phychology videos start to convince me even more that humans are a stupid kind of animal.
@zContagium
@zContagium 9 жыл бұрын
That's what we are, animals. We're all stupid, at least in comparison to the universe. We're all susceptible to various shortcomings of all magnitudes in our minds. What separates a living thing from a nonliving thing, say a rock and a rabbit? A complexity that allows for emotions, a desire. A momentum to keep going. Like how it all started in the beginning. Think about what you are. What you do. All you do is think about sex, food, sleep and various other things that satisfy your desires. It's all momentum. Emotions are ridiculous. We're ridiculous.
@WokeandProud
@WokeandProud 8 жыл бұрын
+Jacob Elok And yet we've overcome these problems and built a powerful, technologically advanced, thriving civilization. We aren't perfect of course but we have done alot of incredible things.
@janisir4529
@janisir4529 8 жыл бұрын
Jacob Elok We are still the most advanced civilization so far.
@WokeandProud
@WokeandProud 7 жыл бұрын
Irish Jester Most of it required us to come together to work toward a common goal, yes people are stubborn in thier beliefs but when push comes to shove humanity is a force of nature.
@johnmiller7453
@johnmiller7453 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club. We've been waiting for you. Now there are 6 of us.
@humbertojimmy
@humbertojimmy 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you were spot on in the Bob & Carl example! Even though the adjectives were the same, the impression i got from Bob's list was that he was a "nice guy (with some minor faults)" while Carl struck me as "bad guy (with some minor atributes)". Damn, it *does* make all the difference! As they say, first impressions last the longest. When we start out by being shown the *best* of someone, we tend to dismiss the faults later revealed (and vive-versa). Cool stuff! Keep it up!
@ThePharphis
@ThePharphis 6 жыл бұрын
but maybe you're just being plagued by confirmation bias ;)
@everope
@everope 5 жыл бұрын
For me it's actually the opposite effect
@GayTempest
@GayTempest 11 жыл бұрын
I am riveted by these videos! I have never seen or heard anything about the psychological mechanics of belief and theism so succinctly presented.
@darrinmcgann
@darrinmcgann 11 жыл бұрын
This whole series has been great, but this one really explained some things that I've puzzled over for a long time. Why is it so easy for some people to just say we don't know yet, while others so vehemently insist that they have all the answers and cant possibly be wrong.
@mythousandfaces
@mythousandfaces 11 жыл бұрын
I must say, this is one of the most informative series I've come across in the atheist youtube series. This helped me understand more about why I think about things differently than others. Anyway, tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that.
@Susky97
@Susky97 12 жыл бұрын
I actually teach overseas, but the challenge is still the same because many of the students come from religious families. The thing is the principles behind the messages in your videos are enough to plant the seed of critical thinking. If the students get the meat of the ideas you espouse, that it is easy to be manipulated as you have shown brilliantly in these videos, then it is my opinion that many will make the connection on their own about religion and a host of other group-think challenges.
@VilleMetsola
@VilleMetsola 13 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic addition to a fantastic series!
@JamesKing2understandinglife
@JamesKing2understandinglife 11 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Blind belief is a system of belief that I must Opt out.
@TheNakedAtheist
@TheNakedAtheist 13 жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense. I've never been someone who insists on answers that aren't supported by evidence. veritas48 made a video awhile back asking people if they considered it more important to gather as many beliefs as possible that might be true, or more important to not hold false beliefs. I prefer not to hold false beliefs, while he (a theist) preferred to hold more beliefs even if they might be false.
@guillatra
@guillatra 11 жыл бұрын
the Sagan Quote at the end is so amazing!
@ceryni11
@ceryni11 11 жыл бұрын
well and responsibly said sir, you are a model for others to follow
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@GKCanman Yeah, there was a lot of information in this one. I'm glad you were able to wade through it and get something out of it, though!
@superdoubt
@superdoubt 13 жыл бұрын
Awesome Work, AntiCitizenX!
@anubis2814
@anubis2814 13 жыл бұрын
Prior to attempting to write a scientific paper I had a lot more primacy about what I said and believed. After that I learned that I have focus on all the evidence or I could be made to look like a fool in front of everyone.
@SlaveryEvolves
@SlaveryEvolves 12 жыл бұрын
This video should be shown in school, or at least this topic taught to people. People should remember that need for closure exists. It's very likely where appeal to faith and argument from ignorance come from. And those things aren't just in religion vs science, they are all over the political and economic debates and THAT has ruined, and is ruining, our world.
@nyarlotep
@nyarlotep 13 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so though provoking! thanks for all the work you do!
@Sophiethefembot
@Sophiethefembot 12 жыл бұрын
After years of cycles of this, I finaly realised it might've been worth it temporarily but not in the long run. Thanks again for the vid / mirrored vid :)
@munstrumridcully
@munstrumridcully 11 жыл бұрын
I think the issue that many have with an eternal "ominverse" of higher dimensions & multiple universes with varying constants seems to be that it eliminates their need for a motivated agency behind our reality. I think many people are just personally invested in the idea of an anthropomorhic intelligence that somehow makes them 'special" & not "just an accident'. Personally I find the idea compelling and eagerly await empirical verification & see consciousness as special in & of itself.
@coryruss8313
@coryruss8313 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like I have a need for closure, but not in the way you are talking about. When I have conversations with my friends, if we don't reach a point that I have already thought about or am comfortable with, I will think about that conversation for hours, days, weeks. Yet, I don't feel as if I have to have all the answers. I took the need for closure test, and even though I was testing myself, I apparently lied to myself. This gave me a score of 178, which is a moderately high need for closure. Interesting . . .
@ralphyetmore
@ralphyetmore 11 жыл бұрын
Great posts, and the homage to Sagan's speaking style is cool to hear.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@soulure Thank you for the positive feedback. And thanks to everyone else as well!
@esparagus
@esparagus 13 жыл бұрын
Great work man, keep it up!
@melvinmalonga4068
@melvinmalonga4068 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the first experiment illustrates confirmation bias or belief persistance rather than the need for closure. However by the end of the video I understand how they are not really independent. I used to think of the need for closure as the pressure to chose an answer in the 30 last seconds when taking a test. It's clear to me now that the pressure of having to pick an answer is on throughout the test.
@pudicio
@pudicio 11 жыл бұрын
loved the video, especially the feynman clip... golden.
@Susky97
@Susky97 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is what I was hinting at. The challenge is going to be finding those studies in Vietnam or getting them in VN, where I am currently working. I am sure I'll be able to find a track to do that eventually. Cheers!
@TheSocialIrony
@TheSocialIrony 10 жыл бұрын
@12:00 Cthulu did it. lmfao
@soulure
@soulure 13 жыл бұрын
A very interesting and useful video, thank you for taking the time to make this series.
@umcarainteressante
@umcarainteressante 10 жыл бұрын
Nice Hitchhiker's reference there :3
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@bobbymack44212
@bobbymack44212 11 жыл бұрын
Really learned from this series, and found myself laughing at the sections that related to one-on-one selling. Absolute gold.
@yakovperelman4665
@yakovperelman4665 9 жыл бұрын
Good reference to always remembered Douglas Adams
@Susky97
@Susky97 12 жыл бұрын
I am simply going to have to do my own work, using your videos as the catalyst of course :-) Thanks for the kick in the right direction! Keep up the excellent work!
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 12 жыл бұрын
Another option (which you seem to be hinting at) is to just read the studies yourself and work them into your own lesson plans. Then you can be a little more subtle about the religious angles.
@DeletedDelusion
@DeletedDelusion 13 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!
@COEXISTential
@COEXISTential 10 жыл бұрын
Ceiling cat created the creator! :D
@theenlightenedvan
@theenlightenedvan 11 жыл бұрын
Great Video! 10/10
@oakfire12
@oakfire12 12 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking on Myers Briggs, personality types and its relationship to belief and critical thinking for some time. In my experiences organised religion is led by SJ personality types.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
A discussion on Platonism can be found in Part 4 of my Philosophical Failures series. I go on at length about the nature of mathematics and where numbers come from. Mathematics is a system of rules built on axioms, and therefore invented. Everyone in science and engineering knows this.
@leslieviljoen
@leslieviljoen 4 жыл бұрын
LET'S SHAKE THINGS UP A BIT!
@franklater2908
@franklater2908 11 жыл бұрын
Yet another excellent vid in the series! I noticed that this one has a list of references at the end, something that I missed before. Another improvement would be to encourage people to do their own reading and investigation, not just take you on your word. I'm continuing watching this series and find out how it evolves...
@stauffap
@stauffap 11 жыл бұрын
Chuck Norris as a possible creator of the universe? Nice one! ;)
@jbz3
@jbz3 11 жыл бұрын
And don't forget, sometimes people with a high need for closure may also project that others also have that need and are just doing the same but with a different answer.
@phamthohongduong
@phamthohongduong 11 жыл бұрын
I thinks its just the need for any answer rather than no answers makes people lean on faith
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
Hold on a second. Numbers don't "do" anything. We use numbers as a tool for making predictions and descriptions. And yes, we happen to be very good at it sometimes. It is even very tempting to try and say that physical things follows certain "rules." But you have to be very careful not to overly-couple your descriptive language with the physical thing itself. The number "2" doesn't do anything - we use "2" as an instrument of communication and encapsulation for ideas.
@major600
@major600 9 жыл бұрын
I make mosaics which depict famous faces. I often evaluate the accuracy of my portrayal by asking people if they can recognize the face. Most people look at a single feature and guess with no thought to being accurate. I recently finished a portrait of a woman with full, red lips, and one of my friends guessed it was either Charlie Chaplin or Michael Jackson solely because of the short, black hair. She even suggested it could be Hitler because the prominent nostrils reminded her of his mustache.
@llamalord111
@llamalord111 13 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a video from you for ages :D
@deserthamster7049
@deserthamster7049 13 жыл бұрын
@AntiCitizenX And I bet he wasn't the only one eagerly waiting for the video. Keep up the good work and thanks!
@nataliaborys1554
@nataliaborys1554 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if I ever get to be the first person to anwser someone's _where did we come from?_ question I will just say honestly "We do not know, at least not yet. And that's okay."
@CRITICALHITRU
@CRITICALHITRU 5 ай бұрын
We all came from our mothers
@myviewsareright
@myviewsareright 13 жыл бұрын
so good!
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@TheAwesomeChicken Not enough hats! Also, matter is energy. ;)
@Susky97
@Susky97 12 жыл бұрын
This is the best video in the bunch in my personal opinion. I have really enjoyed this series and I hope to find a way to use this with my high school students. Are you a teacher by any chance? I think your ability to present this information clearly is laudable on several fronts. Great work!
@NoctambulantJoycean
@NoctambulantJoycean 11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@AngelicFerret If you Google the titles of the papers, you should be able find them pretty quickly. However, you might find that some of them require a journal subscription in order to access. If you have access to a good library, you should be able to scrounge them up. My university grants me free access to most journals, while others I can get through inter-library loan. It's a pain in the rear, but that's just a fact of life with scientific publications.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
Great point.
@bjjolley
@bjjolley 13 жыл бұрын
I heart Feynman. I adore Sagan. AntiCitixenX, you're getting up there, too. ;)
@n2thatguy
@n2thatguy 13 жыл бұрын
Great job once again. Is it sad that I have a geekgasm over your diagrams like the one at 3:18 ? Love those things.
@EdwardHowton
@EdwardHowton 10 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting result... the low need for closure's immunity to primacy (whatever you want to call it) resulted in a slightly lower number for positive>negative than for negative>positive, the reverse of the higher need for closure. It's close, but I wonder if that's statistically significant?
@spiderlime
@spiderlime 6 жыл бұрын
religious thinking, which pertains to give concrete and uncompromising answers to life's questions, is apparently a "safety mechanism" of the human psyche, that springs into action in times of personal or collective crisis. in the aftermath of ww1, for example, there was a rise of mysticism and spiritualist beliefs in europe and america. houdini and sir arthur conan-doyle are famous figures who were involved with this phenomena. the cult of the satate and the leaders was very much a religion unto itself in fascist regimes. after ww2 you had the drug countercultur. and so on.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
"Numbers, good, evil, love, hate, compassion etc." Sounds like you are a Platonist, which is, frankly, a highly untenable position. None of those things you mentioned "exist" unto themselves. Numbers are inventions. Good/evil are subjective descriptors. Love/hate are just emotions. This is a very common Christian perspective that is, I'm sorry to say, just plain wrong at all levels.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
"I state that numbers, good, evil etc are not created by us " Define the element "1" of the natural number set. For every natural number n, there exists an incremental natural number n+1. 2 = 1 + 1 3 = 2 + 1 4 = 3 + 1 and so on. There, I just invented natural numbers right before your eyes. It started with a base element and then followed with a rule for generating new elements in a recursive process. No one "discovered" this - they had to invent it. This is how ALL math works, AHX.
@Mislu
@Mislu 11 жыл бұрын
any option is actually viable, since we don't have any evidence of something before planck time. We do not know what is a universe without spacetime as we know it, so, we cannot even infer about what was before it, or even if before even applies to such a state.
@Mislu
@Mislu 11 жыл бұрын
Just because you have a personal definition of infinity, does not mean that it supersedes the accepted definition. Cantor's definition mathematically proved the existence of an "infinity of infinities". You can have a sum of infinite parts and get a finite result. Mathematical demonstration supersedes "common sense" or philosophical definitions, as it relies on very defined set of rules which are universally verified.
@10sodot
@10sodot 13 жыл бұрын
well done ,keep it up :)
@StefanTravis
@StefanTravis 9 жыл бұрын
Religious types can't bear uncertainty or ambiguity. But they're fine with handwaving and vagueness, which are superficially similar. Rational people are the other way around. A lot of good art has ambiguous meaning, and is thus disturbing to narrow minds. And a lot of bad art has nebulous meaning ... which is superficially similar. A distinction that merits investigation, I think.
@samael1981
@samael1981 9 жыл бұрын
Erudite observation! Thank you!
@simcult
@simcult 13 жыл бұрын
Hey I'd really like to see a video on so called 'Miracles'. The sad thing is that believers use this as a way to 'explain' the unexplainable - like Noah's ark, water into wine, walking on water, etc
@DunkeyKonga
@DunkeyKonga 7 жыл бұрын
What accounts for the diversity in people with high or low need for closure, and roughly what proportion of the population is of each group? That would be interesting to know, whether there is an evolutionary explanation for that. I have heard Michael Shermer talking about perception of agency in nature and making false positive errors when there is a rustle in the bushes and to presume it is a predator for example. But is every human behavior the product of evolutionary adaptations or are some bi-products of adaptations, or are there other explanations? I suppose some of human behavior can be considered to be a malfunction of our psychology too.
@MegaChickenfish
@MegaChickenfish 8 жыл бұрын
It makes me curious if the only real way to combat the confirmation bias is what happened with me: The thing I cling to and will not budge on *is* that I need to be willing to budge my positions in the face of new evidence to get the most accurate conclusion. I'm very close-minded that open-mindedness is the way to go.
@mumblingmickey172
@mumblingmickey172 9 жыл бұрын
The problem I think AntiCitizenX is that there is also likely to be a strong genetic influence on brain type that require primacy and those that do not. Now at the moment I don't know if that's the case (but hey theres always Plos One) ... lets assume there is for a moment at least a partial genetic or epigenetic association with tendency to choose based on primacy... for sure it would be an evolutionary advantage... you know... a sort of "always run away from the oncoming rockfall despite the fact there are apples in the orchard beyond...." Well if that was the case then its unlikely this can ever be addressed utilising simple education or philosophy in schools etc... ... after all X percentage of the population will always favour first hand data over accurate data... they are hardwired to do so... or at least theres a strong preference to do so.... As I said though I'm sure someone looked into it? Maybe you did? (care to share?) But if even demonstrating to someone how they are bamboozled and led astray by themselves can't work because they are hard coded to ignore it... then aren't you sort of preaching to the converted?
@jomen112
@jomen112 9 жыл бұрын
MumblingMickey What psychologist have done is to give a plausible explain to why dump people are dumb. That is the first step; to identify a cause. Next step is to come up with a method, a "cure", to address the issue. However, a cure implies someone to cure. We would needs to test everyone and rate them, and if someone falls below a certain (arbitrary?) measurement they would need to be "cured". The question is; do we want to do this, put labels on each other, with otherwise perfectly normal people? Have we not already done this kind of mistake before?
@liarwithagun
@liarwithagun 8 жыл бұрын
+jomen112 I don't know, those slave owners were perfectly normal people too. Why do we need to label them? Maybe it's because we have to decide what we will allow in our society.
@mumblingmickey172
@mumblingmickey172 8 жыл бұрын
jomen112 Well I think left to its own nature will sort the issue out one way or the other... the real question is this "If nature starts opting for a trail of bodies....can we allow that to continue and just shrug it off with the star trek prime directive that one should not intercede?" For sure this century will be a real test for humanity. Its the century where we end up sharing our world eventually with an intelligence greater than ours that is supposedly everyone's friend (AI) ...yet somehow I get the feeling it will be friends with some people more than others. Assuming it comes to the party as a friend and doesn't instead gatecrash with its own friends and boot forty shades of shit from the rest of us! (also a concern)... I think we've all been to parties like that. From history I think by now we should have learned that anyone arriving with a faster, better, more efficient technology will use that technology to remove absolutely everyone thats in the bloody way. To my mind that would be about 90% of the population. The price of NOT evaluating folks for such a cure could be the worst thing to do... but you can be sure they will select themselves for no cure anyway...so its a moot point. Unfortunately we NEED people to believe things... even utterly untrue things... from such folks we have created civilization. Because we can interject and get them to believe anything... Steve Jobs did not create the iPhone... instead scientists discovered it was possible, engineers designed it, and kids in Chinese sweat shops built it... Jobs just told them all what to do! Without such folks doing all the downstairs for dancing work we'd be sitting in caves all agreeing that the rocks can be banged together to make fire, that its possible and logical and all looking around for someone to do that for us! One things for sure though... the absence of information is rarely a good thing...whether you choose to use it or not. And being human we tend to favor using things...even things we don't understand the implications of...and even things we DO understand the implications of, and even when we know the implications are not good!
@Oswlek
@Oswlek 7 жыл бұрын
*Well if that was the case then its unlikely this can ever be addressed utilising simple education or philosophy in schools etc... ... after all X percentage of the population will always favour first hand data over accurate data... they are hardwired to do so... or at least theres a strong preference to do so....* Isn't this like saying that, since anger confers an advantage we must accept all irrational behavior it stimulates? As for the "preaching" comment, that some people have a stronger need for closure than others doesn't mean that they can't be made aware of their bias, just that it will be more difficult than others. It's the same way some people have a harder time regulating their behavior in the presence of distracting emotion. It's virtually impossible for someone to be beyond the point where education is useless and those who are hardest to reach are the ones who need it most.
@PebkioNomare
@PebkioNomare 6 жыл бұрын
Even if there is, it's generally understood that genetics allows for potentials that are ultimately influenced by external factors. People put way too much stock into genetics as being an absolute definition of a person.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
"I wrong you still need to give a positive reason for whatever other option you support." What? No I don't. What kind of ridiculous demand is that? The only option I have is "I don't know." I don't know what reality preceded our observable spacetime because we have very little understanding of cosmology in this realm. We therefore have no basis for formulating any solid conclusions. I can, however, recognize an incoherent proposition when I see one.
@jjthe13th
@jjthe13th 6 жыл бұрын
Every creation had to have a creator. Every watch had a watchmaker factory who took blueprint copies from the inventor of the watch. But that's not where it ends. The watchmaker had parents. But that's not it. The watchmakers parents had parents who had parents who had... Infinite regress
@p.bamygdala2139
@p.bamygdala2139 6 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video series! How do we help people overcome these needs, so that they won’t be taken advantage of?
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@crocoshocker It's in reference #5 at the end.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@RakaTheTenacious "There is a choice between blind faith and critical thinking." Bingo.
@AngelicFerret
@AngelicFerret 13 жыл бұрын
I love these, keep them coming? Is there any way you can provide links to your sources in your description? I would really like to read these research papers. Thanks!
@theenlightenedvan
@theenlightenedvan 11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant mind! Keep up the great work! Are you a fan of Noam Chomsky, Jordan Maxwell and Michael Tsarion??
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
FOR THE THIRD TIME: I do not have to make a positive case for any alternative hypothesis in order to show that your argument is invalid. Why is this so hard for you to grasp? Tell you what. Say it with me: "I do not have to make a positive case of my own in order to show that yours is wrong." Repeat it three times, please. Again, I have made no arguments other than to say that some realm *could* easily exist beyond our usual concept of a 4-dimensional spacetime. That's it.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@qulqunick The research for this video was the most time-consuming. It hit a dead-end several times while trying to uncover the experimental papers.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@simcult See part 6 on hallucinations. Also see part 4 on the misinformation effect. There's your miracles.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@AdamKili I just picked up a discount Social Psych 101 text. It was then pretty easy to put 2 and 2 together. It has been suggested by others that I write a book on this stuff someday as well. Maybe in a few more years we'll see. ;)
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
I have also pointed out to you that "time" is not the absolute, all-encompassing entity you think it is. There is no such thing as "time" but rather a distinct four-dimensional construct called "spacetime." And even this view is known to be incomplete. So it doesn't matter what you think you've proven, you're making a non-sequitur argument based on assumptions that are patently false.
@ophios
@ophios 11 жыл бұрын
I think anyone that thinks that "it gives me an answer" as a valid reason to accept something should have their logic used against them by making them only use answers they knew when they were a kid.
@KittenKodersViews
@KittenKodersViews 12 жыл бұрын
As Big Thought said, we need the question to find the answer. Science give us answers that lead to questions, therefore, only science can find the answers. Simple, huh?
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 13 жыл бұрын
@CrazedCousinDougal Someday I'll get around to posting the flowchart online. Until then, just PM me with your email and I'll forward it to you.
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 11 жыл бұрын
"You are using numbers in one argument and arguing against their existence in another." Compare these sentences: I see a "big" apple. I see "2" apples. You claim that "2" exists. I can even use "2" in an argument. However, I can also use "big" in an argument with exactly the same structure. Does it now follow that "big" exists? That "bigness" is an intrinsic physical entity unto itself? Reductio ad absurdium, AHX. Think about it.
@Mislu
@Mislu 11 жыл бұрын
"before", or whatever it was... it could also be "after", or "before and after", or neither. We cannot infer nothing from it.
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