Thanks for watching, John. We hope you check out some other videos.

Thanks for watching!

Not saying you're wrong...but you can't judge a cartridge by watching 2-3 questionable looking shots and a 4th good shot.

I was going to say, given how clear that fourth shot was in delivering the energy, the other three didn't even seem to hit to my eyes; you'd think even hitting a shallow spot (flesh wise) would show some sort of wave for the energy transfer. I personally think he rushed the first three and took his time on the fourth when he realized it wasn't running and he missed the first three. I have other issues with that, but that is another issue to discuss. ADDITION: That said, round choice is also about comfort to a degree; want a more assured ethical kill? Go for that 300; I myself am looking at making a 300 RUM setup soon here

22 LR is the most deadly firearm in the world...why?.....Shot placement.... for the last three years I have used nothing but .223 for very large bodied mule deer and I'm 100% confident in it........I know this is elk and I wouldnt dare use a .223 on elk, however, if you watch close the blood starts to seep through on the hind quarters and later part of the guts.... Its all about shot placement....

@@mthompson Well, he said in a previous comment that the 1st and 4th shots were nearly touching right behind the shoulder. So...the 1st shot didn't do what the 4th shot did, so what does that tell you? A .30cal would've done the deed on the 1st shot.

He was dead on the first shot and just didn’t know it yet.

Thanks! You watch the full film?

@@MuleyFreak I skipped through it and watched bits and pieces. Had to watch that killshot 😜🤙🏼, I'll rewatch it a little later with more time.

Kaleb Allred booo ;)

@@erikvanwoerkom1896 watched the whole thing now! 😂

Thanks, brother! & thnx for watching.

Thanks for watching!

He did a great job for sure! Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching the hunt, brother!

Thanks for watching, sir!

We will work to better the footage in the future, thanks.

Thanks!

Thanks, Tyler & thanks for watching.

Thanks!

CHALLIS WILLSON thnx Challi

Thanks for watching, Donnie!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks, buddy!

Matt Garn Hornady 147 ELD-M Match AMMO

Is the 143 eldx not better choice ? Did all 4 bullets exit the bull ? Hornady or somebody need make a 150 or 160 that can cut wind & punch thru harder on big game like this. Nice bull. I'd like to see the exit side pictures of bull. Thanks Red.

@@austintyler7991 the ELD-X is marketed more for hunting; however, the ELDM has a higher BC and performs very well also. Lots of guys are using the Ms for hunting. This is the 4th animal I'm taken with them this year. Muley buck -1242 yards. Whitetail buck - 791 yards. Whitetail doe - 400+ yards. Bull elk - 300 yards. The first bullet was right behind the shoulder. The 2nd and the 3rd where a smidgen back one of them being back of the ribs. (My nerves got to me) and the last bullet (the 4th) was in the money. Thanks for watching!

@@ErikVanWoerkom 1242 yd wow. On video ? Love to see that one. Thanks, God Bless ya bro. Be safe out there.

ELDX would have been better for ELK. I agree the ELDM is good to even great on smaller stuff like Deer but that big Elk needs the ELDX.

He's a great bull. Thanks for watching, brother!

He was feeling it.

One could only hope! :)

Ha ha. That never goes well for Erik either lol

LOL

Amen, brother! Thanks for the positive feedback and thanks for watching. Elk are super tough. We've always been taught to shoot until they drop.

Lol two clearly hit the right hind quarter...what did you watch?

Thanks, buddy! We appreciate it!

Thanks for watching!

found the answer below :). thanks!

We used factory ammo on this hunt, brother!

@@MuleyFreak what kind of bullet did you use ?

_338 WM & 300 WM still don't take an elk off their feet if you shoot them in the vitals. It's all about shot-placement. That elk was going anywhere from the first shot._

The 6.5 PRC is plenty of gun for elk. Two things to conclude from this video. Shot placement is everything and a bull elk is tough!

@@MuleyFreak Agreed on shot placement and elk being tough critters. Since you've killed more elk than I can ever dream of, therefore I'll respect your opinion on this. I'm more Monday morning quarterbacking, having killed a few with my 300 WSM (which have all dropped with one well placed shot) and having seen a bunch of videos with 6.5 PRC hits. Clearly with no practical experience I can't make the apples to apples comparison that you can but as an observation it seems to take a few more rounds in the vitals with the 6.5 PRC unless of course you get some CNS type hit. Thanks for taking time to reply and go get em in 2021!

No problem, buddy. Elk can take a beating. It's all about shot placement when it comes to these critters!

Thanks for watching, Z.

Thanks, Gary!

Thanks for watching, Gary!

Thanks for all the recent comments James! We try to learn multiple calibers and test a wide range. We use Hornady ammo and have a couple podcasts with Seth Swerczek about impact velocity, what it takes to kill an animal, shot placement and a couple different topics. You might enjoy listening to those as well since you seem to know quite a lot and have a interest in different calibers. Glad you’re enjoying the videos! You should join our Facebook group where we can connect better!

Thanks for watching, Jerome!

Glad you enjoyed - thanks for watching!

#1 always beats #2 and #1 is shot placement. Every-time!!! Thanks for sharing our same thoughts. Happy hunting!

Timber Tramp if it’s legal where you are going you just do it. Nothing really

Nothing really puts down an elk quickly. A high lung near the spine shot does, or a neck shot, but elk tend to soak it up! Erik used a 143 gr ELD-X on this hunt.

@@MuleyFreak that's an ignorant statement. Use what you want but don't tell the world that nothing puts and elk down fast. Your'e not the only guy who hunts them.

Thanks, man!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks, James!

sweet bull by the way!!!! Congrats guys

147 ELD-M Match AMMO from Hornady.

Thanks for watching, Rod!

sweet! I have some fo the same ammo purchased, thanks a bunch and great hunt!

@@MuleyFreak Match ammo for game hunting? Not the best option, those projects tend to frag.

1st and last bullet where literally touching behind the shoulder when we caped this bull out.

Hard to believe when the middle 3 shots severed the back quarter and guts in extremely inconsistent behavior.

LOL. Thanks for watching, Kyson!

LOL. Muley Freak headed to the moon! Hope you join our journey!

@@MuleyFreak oh brothers I've been on this journey!!!! Friggin love the content!! And I live in Florida lol. Y'all got elk, muleys, bears and pronghorn. I've got gators, hogs, whitetails and turkeys 😂😂🤷🤷💪💪🇺🇲🇺🇲👊👊

300 yards.

Couldn't agree more in the fact that the 6.5 PRC is plenty for big game. Thanks for watching, WJK.

He's right around the 340" mark.

Just over 340" actually. Stud for a public land general bull. Be sure to subscribe to the channel.

Mothman 792 it’s s PRC actually

It's a PRC not a creedmoor.

@@MuleyFreak fantastic!

Elk are super tough animals and rarely just drop unless hit in the spine. The PRC has him dead on the first shot. Thanks for watching.

@@MuleyFreak that's fair. Just crazy how that thing didn't even seem to acknowledge the first couple. Either way, the group at the end shows it. They were all good shots. And I would never call a ~250 yard shot unethical. I don't see anything wrong in this video. Definitely convinced me to not use my 6.5 CM on an elk. I'll stick to my .280 ai.

I've seen elk no acknowledge 300 win, 300 Normas, 7 MMs, and the list goes on! From personal experience these critters can take a beating! At the end of the day it's all about shot placement.

Thank you for watching. More content will be coming soon!

Thanks, buddy. Did you go on a Muley Freak KZfaq binge watch last night?

Brandon Guitierez i just got my first 6.5cm on Black Friday and I love it! Specially in a tikka t3x

Joe Palmer nice dude. I decided to try the Bergara B-14 Ridge. We shall see how it goes. Best of luck to you next fall bro.

Shoot until they aren't standing anymore! These animals are TOUGH.

Muley Freak dam Skippy and he was taking those rounds like a champ dude.

IDK if pumping 4 rounds right into his bread basket dispels any myths about the 6.5s lol. Had he piled up after 1 shot, now that would be a myth-buster.

The 6.5mm are more than capable elk cartridges. People have been using 6.5’s to kill large animals for years and years. They have gotten a bad wrap here because of the target creedmoor crowd. I must say however, the 30’s do lay the smoke down.

Shot placement is everything! Elk are tough. Noticed how he was hit he knew he was in trouble. He didn't ran, but froze instead. Elk tend to do that when they are lethally hit with a bullet.

Hahahahahhahaha 🤣😂🤣 too funny!

Yeah! Elk burger is delicious.

Seth Monahan super tough animals!

Thank You for pointing that out! 4 hits with a 30 caliber magnum folks. Same result.

That’s what people don’t understand about elk unfortunately. Ive seen elk get hit twice with a 300 wm and act like nothing happened, and elk get hit with a 270 and hit the dirt. Same vice versa. Elk aren’t deer and most people who haven’t hunted them a lot don’t understand that.

Jacob Harris hahaha. You caught me!!! I found it on day 2!

Bahahah. True story!

I saw that immediately cause he wouldn’t stop playing with his damn hat! Good one... Com’on man!!

@@crabwalk1891 think i'd make Shaqtin's the fool on TNT, bud?

Reflections?

@@MuleyFreak like the light off a cell phone on the wall when sitting in the sun. To her defence, she did have a bunch of nice flushes yesterday.

Dave Gifford personally, I’ve been feeling that same way as of late! First you hunt it, next you kill it, and lastly you cut it up, and share it with family and friends.

but you do not use 4 rounds to drop it ..

@@davidorpwoodnz ?

@@davidorpwoodnz let's see your killshots

What scene are you referring to? Tyler had on Kryptek Altitude and Erik was running Kryptek inferno and Highlander.

@@MuleyFreak At 19:00 and 29:28. Trying to figure out the weights(warmth)of Kryptek jackets and shirts. Want something heavier than the Valhalla for this December archery. I'm thinking the Alaios might fit my needs. Have Ragnar pants but they don't make them anymore it seems. Looks like probably the Dalibor or Cadog.

Phil Ward do you have the Dalibor III???

@@erikvanwoerkom1896 No, only ragnar, valhalla and hoplite top lw, and koldo set. Just got the poseiden 2 pants.

California.

Wrong video?

Wrong video, homie! Ha ha.

Indiana ;)

Like he's ever stepped in the paint ha

Watch yourself, Ty!

WITH 4 SHOOTS ALL EXPLODED GOING THROW THE SKIN .you could see it puffed up ..

David Orpwood Too small of caliber Too light of bullet

@@allanwagner4570 I farm red deer & elk in New Zealand ,I have shoot deer in the yards with a .22 & lots of them with one shoot.but I am not going hunting with a .22 .I have 22m ,223 ,243 ,.30.30, bolt .3006 semi .3006 & a 300RUM . GUESS WHAT ONE I would take long range ELK shooting ??

I understand that However this guy was shooting at almost 400 yards Again too small caliber Too light of bullet You must agree at 400 yards that rifle caliber is much too light A 30 caliber would be a much better choice For a clean kill

@@allanwagner4570 play it again only 280 to 320 yards then he gets closer .I would have got him with one shoot 30.06 / when he was sitting down I could have head shot with the .243 //Most people say it was 400 yards when it was only 300 if you are lucky .

Ha ha. Truer words couldn't be said. Thanks for posting this comment, buddy!

The 1st and 4th shoot were nearly touching - right behind the shoulder. Doesn’t get much better than that bud. Unfortunately, the first shot was missed on film. Nerves got my second shot and the 3rs shot was back of lungs. Super steep side hill. No rear support with heavy rifle made the shot scenario tricky not to mention there’s was not opportunity to get prone For shooting. I’d say I’d did a helluva job getting that bull kill buts that biased of course.

“I’m not an expert at all” ... glad we’re in agreement! It’s pretty clear what you don’t know could fill a barn!

@@TimberTramp and what u do know, couldn't fill a barn.

TilDeath1776 US boy I hope I never get there....I do know about stupid comments and that was one....

I'd have to disagree with you on that one, brother. We have a lot of success with Horandy loads, bullets, and factory ammo.

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Lmao varmint cal that’s been killing moose sized animals the same amount of dead as 30’s for generations. Don’t get me wrong, I love me a good thirty cal, but shot placement and bullet selection outweigh “caliber” all day every day.

LOL. Glad you enjoyed our elk hunt. Thanks for watching!

Thanks!

You must be a slow reloader haha. Just kidding!

No, you would be right. Where I hunt (high Rockies in Colorado), it's not often I get shots beyond 100yds. I should probably practice though 🤣

Lol... 4 shots and it just stood there. I've never had a big bull soak up more than my first shot with the 300wm. I'd prefer not to turn my bull into hamburger before I bring it up...

LOL. These guys are great friends of ours. Some of the most selfish dudes around. We would have been stuck packing that bull out for days without them. Thanks for watching, KN!

@@MuleyFreak thanks for you guys making entertaining videos! I would really like to go hunting with you guys in the future. I'm from South-Africa but immagrating to CA soon. Hunting has always been part of me, it runs in my veins! I also do quite a bit of LR shooting. Keep-up the great work! Enjoy

Will do, man! Thanks for subscribing to the channel.

LOL. That's not necessarily the case, but thanks for watching!

SMH

Hello Kenny, thanks for your comment. I personally own several 30 cals, a few 7 mm, and a 28 nosler now and all I can say is "shot placement". I've seen big bulls soaked up a lot of 300 win mag.

I agree, use an arrow and aim for the mouth next time. With that wind and the flight trajectory from a west sided. Yep works everytime

Right. Shot placement should take 1

Read up on Karamojo Bell, then tell us 6.5 is too small for Bull Elk. www.chuckhawks.com/bell_elephants.htm

Nice, now watch the film. Lol.

Double lung. Aiming for the heart specifically is an easier miss IMHO.

Isaiah Goudy when you’re that deep in the backcountry you tend to be a little picky.

Ok

Just love the chase man! It's definitely not all about score for us even though it may have come across that way in this video. Passing up bulls means more time in the mountains and who's gonna complain about that?!

We've seen big bulls soak up a lot of 300 win rounds, buddy. They are super tough animals regardless.

@@MuleyFreak I guide and have a ton of experience you were close I've used plenty of calibers got monsters, over 400" bulls past 600 yards with no problems out of a 300 win mag without taking shot after shot the 300 win mag also has the 1000 yard championship wins to back it as well as much flatter shooting without the drift, 6.5 drops 203 inches and drifts 59 inches at a 1000 yard with a 142 grain bullet at only 600 yards the 6.5 barely has enough energy with only 1239 ft lbs at 600 yards where the 300 win mag has only 174 inches drop 53 inches drift and 1400 ft lbs at 1000 yards as compared to the low energy of the 6.5 at 600 yards long story short the 6.5 drops 2 feet and 5 inches more than the 300 win mag at 1000 yards so hope you have a good shot placement is key no matter the caliber no need for a big bore if you are a good shot but energy is useful at ranges especially when it is true elk are extremely tough and may require up to 1500 ft lbs for certain shots to make a clean ethical one shot kill

Lol.. i think them other hunters shot it first...

My uncle shot his bull 4 times w a 300 ultra mag and that sucker took it like a champ same as this one

@@Andres47955 dude, are you trying to set a record with Guinness for longest run-on sentence? It's literally TL;DR, as I couldn't find a stopping point anywhere.

Bull elk are as tough as they come and shot placement is key. Thanks for watching!

The MATCH bullet has proved to be a great hunting bullet as well. It isn't marketed as such; however, it does great work as well.

Dude, elk are such tough animals!

U guys do know a match bullet is a target bullet I shoot the eldx out of my 6.5 and have never shot an elk more than once not putting you guys down or anything just a heads up ya know

@@gabevaltierra5974 Lol. Yes I know it's a target bullet; however, it's engineered with the exact same technology.

@@ErikVanWoerkom People have no idea lol. Hornady told them the M is a match bullet and the X is a hunting bullet so that’s all there is to it. For the most part they are correct, a match bullet does not perform well hunting. However, in this particular case, the M’s do very well. I would actually rather shoot M’s than X’s at this point. If you showed them the interior of an M and told them it was an X most of these commenters would have no clue.

Gut shot? 3-4 bullets touching right behind the shoulder! 300 yards away from the animal.

He needs to! ;)

What if we told you my family of 5 ate him and then also hung him in the garage as a token appreciation and reverence. We love what we do. :) God speed!

They are super tough animals, sir. Don't know what else to say. I'm see a bull soak up 9 180 gr .30 cal before tipping over.

A mature bull can very well take 4 shots with a 7MM. These animals have an unprecedented will to live.

Team man, 2000 ft lbs isn’t nearly enough for elk.

I take it you didn't like the music?

@@MuleyFreak hmmmm you think!