yes narrow grip chin up was best in overal emg in a study. It also works your pecs!

It sucks for actual bicep mass

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472No, but there are 2 ways to even increase more according to studies: Do a biceps exercise afterwards, especially concentration curl. Or do instead of the narrow grip chinup the pull where your head goes alternating left/right of the bar, where your grip is like playing a trumpet. It had biggest biceps emg.

He was lying, chin ups are for lats

Mentzer also recommended chin ups and chin-grip pulldowns for the lats

Dips are terrible both for shoulder and wrist joints, throw them as far away as possible.

​@@igorkonforovich3497tf.. nah

@@igorkonforovich3497i thought they help shoulders if u get form down? Idk abt wrist tho

@@igorkonforovich3497how?

​@@igorkonforovich3497no man, it'all about mobility. Dips are fundamental

Exactly

Pull ups also translate into getting onto an object. Chin ups are cool, but I haven’t figured out how to punch through a wall to obtain a grip to do chin ups onto a roof or fence.

@@mikaelbentley9870 strength is strength. From only training chin ups and now weighted chin ups I went from having a pull up 1RM of +10 lbs to now +65 lbs. They're very similar, building strength in one is going to build strength in the other. It's like leg press and squats, someone who squats 500 lbs is going to be a strong leg presser regardless of it they train on the leg press consistently.

​​@@mikaelbentley9870why you want to jump over the fence ? Only monkey does that 😂😂😂. Are you planning to steal or what ? 😂. These youtube kids are insane 😂

Stong and functional back ? Chin ups will also keep yr back functional, your back won's break while walking on the street 😂

how often are you climbing ledges that this is a consideration? lol

I think you punch better with pull ups

I feel like underhand grips are fairly useful when climbing overhangs that require compressions though.

​@@bxnxjmin how often do you need to peek over a bar? lol 🙄

But chin ups make me perform my shoryuken better.

@thetej2227 yes, sir! Spreading the word even on a workout channel. I can dig it! Surrender your will daily!

​@@jimmyjustright1609surrender your will? I thought God gave us free will. Why would I surrender it?

@mjollnirjc because we all fall short of God's glory. All men are fallible and unless we accept Christ we cannot have a relationship with our Creator. We're called to surrender to our Lord. My will has and always will fail me. I chose to surrender my will to the Father's daily. It is a choice. Will you continue doing what you've always done and maybe find worldy success or will you surrender your will to your Creators who'll bless you for eternity. All men, No matter how successful you think they are have failed themselves and others and always will. There's only one who is perfect.

God never had a son - Jesus christ was a man and a prophet - and if he ever decided to have one why do you think He would choose a weak human race instead of creating a mighty being or an angel?@@thetej2227

@@thetej2227 Austin 3:16 said I just whipped your ass!

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@@freespeech4023….I've got one for you! My latest routine ( once or twice a week) is to perform 150 pullups/ chins/ mixed grip in under 20 minutes (18 minutes even just yesterday) just body weight though - 180 pounds 70 years young!

@@freespeech4023 and I can do 100 push ups with you and your weights on my back 😂

@@Sezam3k 😂

I’m also 54 and I’m nowhere near being able to do one pull-up. Been training specifically for that now, a few times a week for 3/4 of a year. 😂

especially if done on gymnastic rings

Did your biceps grow a lot with Chin-ups?

@@SolidestAutumn A bit. Not like what happened from constantly cleaning weights in Olympic weightlifting and kettlebell sport. If I wanted to target biceps for hypertrophy using calisthenics, I would combine false grip chin ups (with isometric) holds and things like high rep pelican curls.

Hey, I have a question how do you still have the strength to do all that?

@@SDPSacramento One or the other.

How pull ups and chin ups improve chest?

@@okdac2559 benching is not only a Chest/tricep excerise. It engages lats, core to stabilize. Strong posterior chain allows you to arch better and more stable. Also strong quads will give you a leg drive

I can go weeks and months without doing chins or pulls and bench 100kg 😮

​@@topman6727thats not the point xd

I know plently of people who bench for more than 225 who don't train them lmao.... tf u on

Oh yeah and you're an expert im guessing you have a degree in fitness

@Nev91280 What if I did? Would that change anything? The point is, even the most basic understanding of human physiology and anatomy tells you that chin ups are easier. Don't believe me? Go do some chin ups and then pull ups and tell me which one was easier and which you could do more reps of. It's going to be chin ups, jackass lol

​@@Nev91280common sense, bud!

​@@Nev91280Lat pull down machines exist for a reason. Never heard of a chin pull up machine.

A neutral grip...produces less Torque and stress on the biceps...better if you want to avoid injury

Good point

It’s just clickbait

Do you notice more gains with the chin ups?

@@grippler3166I noticed my bicep blows up in size. Just doing 4 sets of 5 slow and controlled rep

I use my fat belly for the weights.

Eliminating curls is stupid. Don’t reinvent the wheel

​@@johand3004why not curls are not needed

Used to be fat, got incredibly solid abs from doing hollowbody chins over the years. Highly recommended for this.

I would because I can do multiple sets of 8-12 weighted pull-ups

@@iangraham-white5717 I guess you are extra special

Crazy thing is a guy that works out at the job was just telling me thats how he do his pull ups. I said I have to try it.

Yeah, are right. pull ups are better for posture

I'm Glad it was helpful 🙂

@@fit_4ever I learned a lot from it.

I started doing 2 chin ups weighing 240 pounds. I started doing it everyday. After 1 month can do now 10 strict pull ups and chin ups. Train hard and be patient. Nothing is hard if i believe in it. Your mind is stronger than you think 💪

@@olkaneyupoglu3395 Solid achievement, very glad that approach worked for you! Depends on your age though. I'm in my early 50's, and a friend of mine who is close to my age tore his rotator cuff a couple years or so ago attempting to do pull ups. Sometimes less is more, and the hardest exercises not the best place to start. It's not that different from starting out with maximum weight on a bench press, most people are better off starting to work with a weight they can do 10 times or something rather than just once or twice. I used to be able to bench press twice my body weight about 25 years ago, and have had all kinds of neck, back, and shoulder issues, with tons of chronic tension in those areas. Heavy and intense training is not always the best for people's bodies in the long run, and sometimes the negative effects are not visible until the wear and tear on the body becomes evident years later. Based on my own experience in the gym 5 days/week for more than 20 years, I think lighter weights and less resistance (and greater variety) are better places for most people to start. Just be careful and notice how your body feels, but that's not to take anything away from your progress, great for you man! 💪

Just do pull up negatives, inverted rows and band/pulley assisted pullups and you will have pull ups in no time no machines needed. There's always a natural progression without machine, I prefer pure calisthenics myself but both will work.

Lat pull-downs, visualising pullup technique, are better. There's something about assisted pullup machines that just feels disconnected and 'off'.

@@thetej2227 Hail Odin

51 pull ups in one set? No way you’re locking out and chin above the bar using no momentum

@@ZyroSugar The world record is 651 pull ups, so why would my relatively puny numbers be out of the realm of possibility? My workout wouldn't even be that dude's warm up routine. I have since given up on two sets because it didn't really get me out of my fitness plateau and the only advantage was the bragging point of 100 pull ups in two sets. I have since moved on to single set pull ups with a 20 lbs weighted vest (as well as all of my other single set calisthenics with the same weighted vest). I feel like there are fewer garbage reps and with fewer reps and single sets, it's much easier to find time to work out. Started at 40 pull ups with weighted vest and gradually worked my way up to 50 pull ups with 20 lbs weighted vest, personal best. Then for the next work out I attempted a body weight pull up personal best. Without the added weight, it's like I am flying up with minimal effort. In fact for the first 20-25 pull ups the hand grip pressure drops to zero as my chin goes over the bar. This allows a split second of blood flow and micro rest to the muscles at the top of the pull. Some pull up competitors rest by hanging at the bottom but this is too uncomfortable to me, personally. I like to get the set over, ASAP. In my experience it is people stuck at low rep pull ups that cheat the range of motion, not high rep competitors. I am not doing the body flex or kipping method, so no momentum there. One trick it to look up the whole time so that your chin is already high and you are not cranking your neck into extension with each pull. Also, my neutral grip allows more pectoralis activation so I can pull my chest up to the bar (beyond the mere chin up). Another trick is to go to full arm extension at the bottom and use the reflex muscle tension stretch/bounce to come out of the bottom. I use full range of motion this way, but lingering at the bottom does you no good at all. So with the weighted vest single set up ups< I was able to bust through my previous fitness plateau and I was finally able to achieve my fitness goal of 60 body weight pull ups to match my age. Now I just have to get to 61 within a year.

@@drmitofit2673 hmmm I have a pacemaker with a bad heart and had my whole neck fused front and back. Had some of the back muscles cut. I do workout though but I would be lucky to do 10 pullups. :-P

@@drmitofit2673 well that’s incredibly impressive, the most I’ve seen someone to pull ups on a row is like 40. how did you train to get there? Also how do you breath correctly doing so many reps? What’s your Push ups dips record as well if u don’t mind me asking.

I've noticed my abs are the most sore after doing pullups/chinups over any isolated ab exercise. It's great for the core.

Try L Sit chinups and you will feel it in the quads and lower abs as well.

Some oldschool bodybuilders built their large physiques doing chinups. It sounds like your gym class was behind on the knowledge.

@@ramon3077 Gymnasts don't build mass, they build strength. No one cares about your biceps size if you're able to do your routine perfectly. And vice versa. Sure, they might be good for a pump, but if strength is your goal then pull ups and weighted pull up are the way to go.

@@robertbogomolec8763 Considering the workout routines of Mathew Zlat / Vince Gironda, disregarding chinups is really just missing out on potential strength/mass, overall gains.

You're welcome 😊

Glad you think so!

From what I've read, some bouldering/rock climber folk barely even train pullups. The hardcore enthusiasts probably favor finger boards over bars.

That's ridiculous, 50 grips? You don't need all that nonsense to become strong. Also climber = / = calisthenic practicioner

@@tappajaav It sounds like you already know everything. So, you're all set.

@@jakemccoy Cheers! Planning to be CEO of universe by tomorrow

Glad it was helpful!

Chinups are more harder for me because I have to use more of my biceps and the way how I grip the bar

You should use both

Na Front squats are much better for hypertrophy for me . More weight on the bar doesn't always mean better , Less weight means the desired muscle u want to work is doing all of the work.

You're an idi*ot if you refuse to do pull ups.

front squats are goated for me. I have naturally bigger glutes and they steal most of the gains with squats, but front squat just demolish my quads and upper back. Used to hate it back then tho.

Thanks 💪

@@fit_4ever my pleasure

Sternum chinup is incredible for back.

it is ok, you will improve your technique with time

I agree with that different exercises will recruit the biceps/brachialis without performing a curl or chin-ups, it always depends on your goal. For me, I am working on building my deadlift strength and grip is the major link to make it work. I am using a double-overhand grip, so I can keep my shoulders in rotational symmetry. I use chin-ups because I need another movement that does not require pulling from the floor and there is the added benefit of improving my relative strength at the same time.

Forgive the hyperbole but that's like saying that you don't need to squat once you can do a bodyweight squat. You can always add more difficulty to chin-ups by doing them slower, adding weight, or slowly transfering to one arm chin-ups. They are also incredibly time-efficient exercise, so if I were limited with my gym time doing them would be very beneficial

Chin-ups

Chin ups

Chin-ups for sure.

I do them both and pull-ups always feel harder for me. However, I can do the same number of reps for each.

I do neutral grip pullups

Try doing eccentric pullups. Get to the top position(for example use a nearby object to stand on, grip the bar,) and slowly lower yourself. Repeat. Could help you to eventually hit good form pullup.

Try using a neutral grip, it works wonders for me.

Try using rings.

@@alejandromedina6707 Neutral grip are IMO also fine. It's when you twist your wrists past that point that it becomes uncomfortable for me.

@HectaBG That’s too bad. My home setup only has room for neutral or wide grip pullups and I was in your situation. Keeping thumbs in-line, pausing at the top, and slowing the negative (decline) got rid of the awkward feeling. It also meant decreasing volume at first. Also, doing hangs in that neutral position helped in the adjustment.

You mean chin ups

@@blacklyfe5543 yea

Back and Bis

That should be given regardless of the exercise done

For yourself. It's a great feeling when you can perform pull ups and start looking great

Use it or lose it.

Thats failure

that's failure. if 6 reps is your max on the first set then most likely you will not be able to do 6 reps on the following sets.

My one set max isn't 6. The strategy is to be harder and harder until i reach the 6th set where i have to give me best to be able to finish it@@president8102

​@@martinivanov1817 6 sets of the same exercise is a little excessive. you can increase reps biweekly just off of one set alone. you should be going near failure every set. if you can do 6 sets of a certain rep range it's not close enough to failure.