Pulse 80W Squonk Box modifications II

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Morten Oen

Morten Oen

6 жыл бұрын

Big shout out to Rocky Weeks and Manuel Pellizzari and my dad who have helped me with their insights.
Conclusions: Changing the wire makes the mod 5-7% more efficient in 50W regulated mode. It makes the mod 20% (often more) efficient in Bypass mode. There is less volt drop in 50W mode and Bypass mode, both mesured with voltmeter and on the display of the mod. Using a 21700 4000 mAh battery gives the mod 20%-ish more capacity at the settings tested.
Don't do this at home. If you like to squonk at high Watts, buy a mech!
Here is Rocky Weeks channel! / @neotoxo54
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@hamandeltara7647
@hamandeltara7647 5 жыл бұрын
He is a mighty guru. He doesnt look like a mighty guy, but hes words are powerfull...
@thugglyfeog8382
@thugglyfeog8382 6 жыл бұрын
Mort!! Gd 2 see u back! Love ur work bro.. thanks and God bless you..
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see you too!
@xanderbingham6866
@xanderbingham6866 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Morten! Still, waaaaaay to much effort for a cheap throwaway mod but if you had fun doing it then good for you!
@greeeeasy2996
@greeeeasy2996 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload man. I just tried a Samsung 40T in my Pulse 80w and it fits perfectly without any modification, slight raised height on the squonk panel/door. I just added some Blutack to the bottom left corner next to the squonk bottle inside the mod and along the side of the right corner of the door and it has no wobble on the door whatsoever although it's slightly raised now but still flush. Working perfectly in Power mode @ 70w and the battery is cool as a cucumber. Would never have thought it would take a 21700 battery, but it's working perfectly. :) Now to upgrade the firmware to make it 90w.
@neotoxo54
@neotoxo54 6 жыл бұрын
Morten, thanks once again for the attention. I do, much enjoy the tinkering and sharing the results. I, like you, get asked ‘Why would do this?’ and my best answer is ‘Because I can’. I think it invites curiosity and stirs the brain to ‘think out of the box’, so to speak. For me it is a good “Thing” and maybe in the end it will begat something much better. Thanks Again.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rocky! Great to see you here :-) We are of one mind, brother.
@rasmush9484
@rasmush9484 6 жыл бұрын
Great as always, Morten ! Bedste hilsner fra Danmark
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Takk Rasmus!
@DistinctOgre
@DistinctOgre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@Quarashi1
@Quarashi1 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Morten! That looks like it was a proper pain in the arse. lol. You're right, every bit matters. I learned that painstakingly when I was messing with pcb guitar pedals and amps and also learning point to point wiring, true bypass, etc.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Night Hawk! So far I have only made myself a chorus pedal and two distortions :-) Even if I can follow a map, it does not mean I understand the terrain:-)
@veronicabutler4411
@veronicabutler4411 6 жыл бұрын
Love video Moten .Ask my husband to try this haha.vandy vape made a mistake not making it fit 21700.thanks again
@stanglifemike
@stanglifemike 6 жыл бұрын
Veronica Butler No, neither Vandy Vape nor TonyB made a mistake. The Pulse X was already planned before the Pulse 80 released. The Pulse 80 was released so the Pulse X would have something new and be different. Vandy Vape doesn't care about it's customers, only money!! Vandy Vape is one of the, if not the very, worst vape companies in business!
@freakbag420
@freakbag420 5 жыл бұрын
@@stanglifemike is that so. Let me guess you're tony b, or are you a high up at vandy vape. It's hard to guess who you are but its obvious you're someone that would know the inner workings of a company in China. I mean right After all you must be the CEO of vandy vape right. How could I not take your word as fact. When you're just a random person on KZfaq making claims and stating they're facts
@stanglifemike
@stanglifemike 5 жыл бұрын
@@freakbag420 You're correct, I'm the Vandy Vape CEO
@ryancairns2317
@ryancairns2317 6 жыл бұрын
It must be slightly frustrating for everyone who bought an 80w Pulse that the 21700, 90w Pulse X will be with us soon along with the Pulse X rda. I'm so glad I held off buying the 80w version! Nonetheless I appreciate the lengths you go to in your tutorials Morten :)
@Charlie_12x3
@Charlie_12x3 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like it came out of Bobby Singers salvage yard jk great job on the battery 🔋 placement
@williamfeijen8601
@williamfeijen8601 6 жыл бұрын
Great skills
@blainechapa4989
@blainechapa4989 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video Morten. I know it's not new at all, but I am curious on your thoughts regarding coil placement on the Cosmonaut RDA. Some people say in line barely above the deck other say to pull out closest to airflow. A review if you could somehow find the time would be awesome.
@maxwiz71
@maxwiz71 6 жыл бұрын
When I modified mine I removed that ledge that's part of the internal back cover. Gives lots of room to set the battery lower. Only need to remove a tiny groove in the front and back panel. I don't believe changing the wire can make any difference even in bypass mode. Bypass mode isn't a genuine bypass. It's a simulation. The board measures the battery voltage and the coil resistance and calculates the power that you would get in a mech. Then it sets that power. While the coding is slightly different in bypass mode the electronics are identical to power mode.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
I did not believe it would make a difference either, but I have done 34 comparisons now over the last couple of months. There can be no doubt. Even the display shows a difference with same battery/ RDA. This was not a "one time test". Thank you for the input on the 21700 modification :-)
@richardlarsen5716
@richardlarsen5716 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Morten, interesting to watch but Pulse 80W never appealed to me and I do not have one.
@snakedude61
@snakedude61 6 жыл бұрын
I know you dont like tanks but i would really like your opinion on the intake rta. It seem like it would be cool with flat coils. I have one and im new to building but it seems like it would work well. If you set the coil high for air flow. Between the posts, the tubes going down and the cotton. You can wall off all the sides except for straight up from the bottom. Forcing the air up and around the sides of the coil. Like I said I'm a new to this so I could be way off. Love the videos. I have learned alot. Thank you.
@tirollibr
@tirollibr 6 жыл бұрын
Really good video bro, i was thinking on buy one of this mods but the bateries “issue” made me think again, now that i see your video i will buy and trie this hack hahah. I am from brazil and i don’t understood exactly the tools you used, just scratched with a screwdriver? Greetings good work 👍
@magicelkiller
@magicelkiller Жыл бұрын
If this can work also on the pulse bf the og one the mech
@alexchavez5471
@alexchavez5471 6 жыл бұрын
The original Pulse Squank Box can fit a 21700 with a tight fit with no modifications needed and it vapes like a hard hitting mech mod.
@SingleStacked
@SingleStacked 6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would open the box. I'm trying to see where my 510 leaks, and if the juice is getting on the board.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
You should open the box. It's very easy, just remember the screw under the blue sticker. Getting it back together again is easy too, only tape the red wire in place.
@Nefville
@Nefville 4 жыл бұрын
Tony B would be horrified. I'm amazed.
@shaundamerell3409
@shaundamerell3409 4 жыл бұрын
That mod was built to accept 21700 batteries put the negative side in first it's spring loaded
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 4 жыл бұрын
The later model was, not this one.
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 6 жыл бұрын
Morton, great (cautious) information here! I must agree with you that all parts of a system affect the system in some way. I MUST believe that the modification of larger wire into the PCB *MUST* (at the very least) reduce the overall system's resistance....therefore lowering its parasitic burden on whatever power source and work are on either end of the system. More efficiency....at the very least, no?
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But it depends of vaping style and settings.
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 6 жыл бұрын
About the wire: Let's assume the battery is discharged to 3V and you want 80W then the current is around 27A. Now we need some energy for a microcontroller and a display and a very efficient Buck/Boost Converter is UP TO 94% efficient (i.E. much less when it has to boost) so let's just round this up to 30A. This means a 4mm^2 wire from the battery to the board! 2.5mm^2 is allowed up to 25A and 1.5mm^2 maxes out at 20A. So much for cost cutting :D A 15cm long 1.5mm^2 copper wire has 0.00178 Ohms, the 2.5mm^2 has 0,001068 and the 4mm°2 has 0.000668. The resistance for a 15cm long copper wire with the following cross-section surface in mm^2: 1.5 => 0.00178 2.5 => 0,001068 4 => 0.000668 Applying Ohms Lawthe voltage drop on those wires should be around: 1.5 => 0.0534 2.5 => 0,0324 4 => 0,02004 Does this make a noticeable difference? At the highest settings I do think it will. If you really have to get the maximum power out of one single battery, you have to have the most efficient wiring and electronics, or no electronics at all. But it might be easier to use a dual battery setup for a power output above 60 Watt so we don't have to change the battery every other hour.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this splendid piece of physics:-) And thanks for the info on efficiency of buck and boost concept. For general information, the piece of wire I took out was 10cm long, 1mm in diameter (20g), and not copper (i.e. it had no color).
@LuisBermudez69
@LuisBermudez69 6 жыл бұрын
Volker Hett wtf
@chmalus
@chmalus 6 жыл бұрын
You could use two smaller wires instead of one thicker. The goal is the same, but there is no need to cut window for thicker one. ;)
@crackercoils9002
@crackercoils9002 6 жыл бұрын
Ide love to see u fix the voltage drop on the pulse mech mod. A switch bypass or somethin easy
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
I have looked very closely at that problem. I would re-route the positive lead and remove the switch. But then it is much easyer to just buy a Squeezer and change the contacts with something more substantial. If all the modifications are done, the Squeezer is a better device IMHO.
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 6 жыл бұрын
Solder or otherwise permanently connect the cut-off "breaker" disconnect! That little press-fit snap is a horrible connection!!
@nastarr2252
@nastarr2252 6 жыл бұрын
Im satisfy with my first edition pulse & 80w pulse on 18650 battery, although regulated pulse drain the battery more fast. But what do i know. Nice video sir.
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 6 жыл бұрын
Try a few high end 20700s in them and you will change your thoughts on that! 😉
@antoniouk9872
@antoniouk9872 6 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👆🏻
@Michael-rg2uq
@Michael-rg2uq 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for vid but dont think ill be doing haha
@clarencedavemuhi9681
@clarencedavemuhi9681 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Vandy Vape Pulse and it’s not firing, the batteries are new I don’t know what the problem is need help
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 4 жыл бұрын
Open it up, look for loose wires, juice floating around. Dry it off, clean all contacts. If none of these things work, I don't know. Sorry, but these mods break down from time to time.
@clarencedavemuhi9681
@clarencedavemuhi9681 4 жыл бұрын
Morten Oen I don’t know how to open it, and I think there is no wires from the outside of my mod
@clarencedavemuhi9681
@clarencedavemuhi9681 4 жыл бұрын
my vape is not like yours like in the video but it’s vandy vape pulse. different one
@michaelwork9462
@michaelwork9462 6 жыл бұрын
Nice hack ....great video
@jamesleary1405
@jamesleary1405 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my pulse since released and still use it today with never modify and guess what it still works amazing. I own several vandy vape mods with the vv chip and it's a solid chip. So my question is this, why? What's wrong with running a 20700? It's plenty of battery for this mod! I've run many different ohm loads over all the year's of having this specific mod and it has next to no ramp up this chip fires great. And no I'm not a fan boy of vv but this mod and the swell mod both run the vv chip and are great mods. So why change for a tiny bit of change in capacity makes no sense.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 2 жыл бұрын
I was just curious, and I had the money and time to experiment on a couple mods :-)
@jamesleary1405
@jamesleary1405 2 жыл бұрын
@@mortenoen434 makes sense!
@brunopiacentini251
@brunopiacentini251 6 жыл бұрын
I did it with a dremmel...
@dieseldabz7104
@dieseldabz7104 6 жыл бұрын
All that work and money, then out comes the Pulse X 90 watt with 20700/21700 capabilities.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
😀 Can't wait to open her up!
@jerrykey8092
@jerrykey8092 6 жыл бұрын
this mod wasnt meant for a 21700 only 20700 and 18650
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. And several people have requested that I try to do a modification to 21700. Mission accomplished!
@chuccacloud4088
@chuccacloud4088 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry Jerry your wrong it was designed exactly for that, but this is his cash grab. Because I did nothing at all to my Pulse 80W and I run 21700's in it all the time with no problems. The panel does not go on all the way, but it's so minut it does not bother me at all. I can guarantee you that if you took both the Pulse 80W and 90W opened them both up side by side. They would be exactly the same.
@chuccacloud4088
@chuccacloud4088 5 жыл бұрын
Morten Oen why don't you get the Pulse 90W too. Open them both up to see if there is any difference inside? Because I can guarantee that there is not. It was all a cash grab and a lot of people fell for it.
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 5 жыл бұрын
That is the plan:-)
@freakbag420
@freakbag420 5 жыл бұрын
@@chuccacloud4088 using your brain before you speak can be quit useful sometimes. You should give it a try. If using a 21700 in the 80 is what it was made for. Then it's safe to say a 21700 would fit nice and flush with zero modifications. Yet that's not the case. Proving you're wrong. We get it your disgruntled because you spent a little money on something that became obsolete. Welcome to the club. Every piece of tech anyone buys was already obsolete before it even left the r&d phase. Let alone hit shelves. Get over it
@vazilin4ik
@vazilin4ik 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, you are so adorable. But this one thing bothers me, did anyone telly you that you look like George Carlin?
@ayebumaye6208
@ayebumaye6208 6 жыл бұрын
or you could just wait for the Pulse X instead going through this nonesense
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to open up the X :-)
@Zeljko720gmail
@Zeljko720gmail 5 жыл бұрын
@@mortenoen434 U are the Best 😉😅😅
@MrMrclean211
@MrMrclean211 6 жыл бұрын
pulse mech fit same batt
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
I know. And the performance (efficiancy) is the same as the modified 80W @ 80 Watts. Better off with the Pulse mech. Unless you want a regulated vape from time to time...
@MrMrclean211
@MrMrclean211 6 жыл бұрын
Yepper. awesome. thx for info
@Apathymiller
@Apathymiller 6 жыл бұрын
what is rocky weeks channels name please, i cant find it
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 6 жыл бұрын
Here he is:-) kzfaq.info/love/j-q3IRbjd6eEgVVqcMAt_A
@johnyewdall398
@johnyewdall398 6 жыл бұрын
I will absolutely not change my wire when my second pulse arrives. Honest! HeHe
@vapingaminchav200
@vapingaminchav200 6 жыл бұрын
20awg 😂😂😂😂 I vape wire that thick
@handyman683
@handyman683 4 жыл бұрын
That is dangerous
@mortenoen434
@mortenoen434 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still here, and still using it in my car from time to time ;-)
@andTutin
@andTutin 6 жыл бұрын
Bomb has been planted
@JimRichardHartmann
@JimRichardHartmann 6 жыл бұрын
?? I use 21700's in my Pulse.. It's a tight fit and the door in the front have a 0,5 mm crack on the right side.. I live fine with that, however it might disturb someone.. But when you say it's no way.. Well there is obviously for me..
@samcoysh2463
@samcoysh2463 6 жыл бұрын
Rickhard Hartmann have you not made any mods then to fit the 21700 ?
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 6 жыл бұрын
If you haven't modified that Pulse 80W....please check the condition of your battery's wrap....*CLOSELY!!* 🤔😱😮
@Anonymous_________
@Anonymous_________ 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I just bought the Pulse V2 kit for $40 . And I feel really bad you guys are hacking your mods, should of just waited.
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