Purple Pete gets some "EXTREME MECHANIC-ING." C-15 Cat Repair.

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Adept Ape

Adept Ape

Жыл бұрын

This is the second part of the Purple Pete Saga. AdeptApe@yahoo.com on PayPal for donations and questions.
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@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
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@harshverma1351
@harshverma1351 Жыл бұрын
can you give part number for the bolt you used to check the protusoin
@arnaldocaballero7853
@arnaldocaballero7853 2 ай бұрын
hey bro Is aftermarket parts better? And if its, do you know wich ones?
@billiamnye6562
@billiamnye6562 Жыл бұрын
this style of video is unmatched, love being taken through the journey of the job.
@gailtaylor1636
@gailtaylor1636 Жыл бұрын
And he never fails to make me cackle loudly with the edits. 😂
@cstew8355
@cstew8355 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how something so small could cause so much trouble 👍
@shortthrow50
@shortthrow50 Жыл бұрын
So small?? That’s not a small issue that was overlooked when building a motor
@cstew8355
@cstew8355 Жыл бұрын
@@shortthrow50 I meant that small dent in the gasket makes all that trouble! As in it locking up like that how something so small in regards to the outcome…
@royalblood2405
@royalblood2405 Жыл бұрын
Nice profile pic, a true hero
@cstew8355
@cstew8355 Жыл бұрын
@@royalblood2405 👍 a great man
@iannjahn1190
@iannjahn1190 Жыл бұрын
Haha I can't wait I love watching these videos learning about engine repair I'm an eighteen year old heavy duty truck tech and I want to learn more and work on these bigger jobs it all comes in time but it's just interesting and I enjoy it
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching the videos.
@DowntownDeuce2
@DowntownDeuce2 Жыл бұрын
You came to the right place! Stay the course, and don't settle for mediocrity. Keep advancing, until you reach the top of your industry. I wasn't a mechanic I was a fireman, but I always did my own work, and now fool with yacht diesels in my retirement.
@phatallbutt7879
@phatallbutt7879 Жыл бұрын
As an N14 guy, it’s comforting to know we’re not the only ones with dropped protrusion issues.
@mauricemotors8207
@mauricemotors8207 Жыл бұрын
It’s very comforting but people think Cummins are just indestructible lol
@georgegeorgepht
@georgegeorgepht Жыл бұрын
go buy a 14 liter Detriot and you will find a whole new level of block cutting issues lol
@roballan4944
@roballan4944 Жыл бұрын
Cat and their silly spacer plate....
@januarioqueiroz3122
@januarioqueiroz3122 Жыл бұрын
Being myself a diesel mechanic, I am very pleased watching your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with your viewers .
@Master-of-None
@Master-of-None Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that every mechanic I watch online calls them spacer plates. Around 2005-2007 I worked for the company in Eaton Rapids, Mi. that made them for CAT. We always called them deck plates. Now some of you may find it hard to believe but. No, CAT does not make it's own parts at least not for everything. This factory made hundreds of different parts for CAT. Mostly brackets and mounting plates, and some large assemblies such as the radiator hoods for the big mine trucks. I can say that evey single "deck plate" CAT used at that time came from there. They were laser cut from sheet steel, staitened, machined, ground, tumble finished and 100% inspected. This consisted of being placed on an engine block with pins in every hole to ensure they were all there and in the right location. Several samples per shift were subjected to additional inspections and a full dimensional check on a CMM.(My job) We were a dock to stock facility, so as soon as the parts were received at CAT they were placed directly on engines being assembled without further inspection. I left in 2007 so they could still be making them today for all I know. Some of our production did get boxed for the repair part buisness.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Very interesting information. I'm still going to call them spacer plates, but I'm not surprised that Cat uses a variety of vendors for their parts. Cat has Cat tools as well, which have Cat part numbers, but are made by a variety of different companies.
@shaynegaudet6131
@shaynegaudet6131 Жыл бұрын
We always called them deck plates.
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI Жыл бұрын
My cousin had a line "The Devil is in the details" and does seem to apply here. Good thing you're into care and attention, and may you live long and prosper.
@larrytalley117
@larrytalley117 Жыл бұрын
Ooooooo extremely graphic mechanic-ing! That just gives me full body shivers!!!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Hi Larry! I need to invent some new words every once in awhile 😄
@larrytalley117
@larrytalley117 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe ❤️❤️👍🏻
@localcrew
@localcrew Жыл бұрын
The first cut is the deepest....
@MySparkle888
@MySparkle888 Жыл бұрын
Watching you cut the deck was so satisfying.
@johnduncan9749
@johnduncan9749 Жыл бұрын
My dad would use that piston plug but he did not use the tool you used with the impact he removed the rod cap and used the tool to turn the engine at the flywheel and the piston would push out the pack all together. Whichever piston was the lowest was next inline. Great video!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
That's actually a really good idea, I might have to try that.
@johnduncan9749
@johnduncan9749 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe They come out quick and less stress on the threaded rod in the plug. It's been so long that I forgot he would put a lifting eye on the rod to make it easier to lift it out. He passed in 2006 so my memory is fading but he worked for Holt of San Antonio for 38 years. I'm not a mechanic I just drive the hell out of them:)
@youtubeisawesome2487
@youtubeisawesome2487 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe the old cat book said to put it in high gear and jack up a wheel and turn the wheel pop goes the cylinder pack
@johnnylightning1491
@johnnylightning1491 Жыл бұрын
Well Josh I'll never be doing this but I do like watching you work your magic. Keep the good stuff coming.
@Adam_Poirier
@Adam_Poirier Жыл бұрын
Man, what an excellent idea with the brake chamber diaphragms in the cylinder holes. Why haven't I thought of that? Nice job on cutting those counterbore's man I always struggle doing them. I don't know why, maybe because I'm nervous to go too deep half the time. Yours came out really nice here.
@one_day_at_a._time
@one_day_at_a._time Жыл бұрын
one of the best channels on youtube! thank you sir for the time you put into putting these videos together. It is much appreciated and your content is awesome!
@jg-xx8oh
@jg-xx8oh Жыл бұрын
You are a true professional my friend hello from🇨🇦love Cats
@oldcatmech
@oldcatmech Жыл бұрын
I used a long body air sander to sand the top of block! Did not take a lot off but cleaned it up nice! Those brake diaphragms come in lots of sizes, did D353, D342, and others using them! I also made an extension for the insert cutter to get the handle above the front plate, made it a lot easier than keep moving the handle, on number one! Have to wonder why water ferrules were high they should have surfaced the cylinder block to make it so! Our machinist that does that job would at lest gone back over them with a mill to make them level with the block! Have to wonder, did they surface the block then decide to fix the ferrule holes? I would put all new liners in, they wear to match the block surface over time so block worn so are liners! Was fun to watch you do this job, keep having fun! those oil ferrules made it a lot better to control oil, but we used copper coat along with them to help make sure, thin yes, but filled in the voids!
@timkis64
@timkis64 Жыл бұрын
nice work josh, you are a credit to your profession.
@Fatamus
@Fatamus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extremely graphic video . 😉👍
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching "Fat Dan"
@steverutherford8189
@steverutherford8189 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a Caterpillar Tech but I have a MXS C15 ACERT in my 2007 Pete 379 . You showed the 5 oil funnels I thought was interesting . So if you use them, you don't have to use aviation sealant between the spacer shim and the block . I don't know how long they've been around, but that's cool . Like everyone else, I enjoy watching your videos Josh .
@d9gdon45
@d9gdon45 Жыл бұрын
Great work.
@markm0000
@markm0000 Жыл бұрын
This video was so satisfying. I got a lot to learn. Thanks.
@jamestamu83
@jamestamu83 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Really enjoyed the step-by-step narration. I can see that cleanliness is very important!
@darrencatenacci2737
@darrencatenacci2737 Жыл бұрын
Weird the way that top deck on the block has that coloration to it. Perhaps some used a sealant on it. But I was under the understanding you didn’t want to use sealant on those. That counter bore cutter worked beautifully. Good setup always helps to though. Once back to work she should run like new. Always a pleasure watching and always interesting and informative. 👍
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if it had something to do with the fire rings allowing carbon maybe, it is very strange though.
@kylesonsalla7620
@kylesonsalla7620 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a 7.3 block/head after removing the graphite head gasket.
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 Жыл бұрын
Excellent investigation and prognosis, very interesting to observe, and learn! Thanks for sharing.
@BalthazarL
@BalthazarL Жыл бұрын
Well Done! Nice cuts!
@kerrygleeson4409
@kerrygleeson4409 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Josh
@badgerpa9
@badgerpa9 Жыл бұрын
Excellent educational video. That movie is a great old one, scared my son when he was little. Gotta say I loved the Rec Room. Stay safe and healthy Josh.
@mandomestizo
@mandomestizo Жыл бұрын
thrilling!!! great episode! cant wait for the grand finale on this purple pete series!! 🤠
@1tuffzx10
@1tuffzx10 Жыл бұрын
Ok a new word I gotta mechanic-in 👍🏾👌🏾
@bretyoung1869
@bretyoung1869 Жыл бұрын
Josh, you do amazing work !! Very meticulous work, hope your Boss and customer's appreciate you !!!
@stewartalbert3523
@stewartalbert3523 Жыл бұрын
Years ago at work we made a socket that was one foot long . We cut an impact socket in two turned a pipe to size ,pressed the halves of the socket in then welded .
@knickebien1966
@knickebien1966 Жыл бұрын
Purple Pete is in good hands ...
@davidskinner6765
@davidskinner6765 Жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant 👍
@malcolmyoung7866
@malcolmyoung7866 Жыл бұрын
Great video enjoying this series on this engine/truck…
@victorjeffers1993
@victorjeffers1993 Жыл бұрын
I like how meticulous your are about keeping the shavings up definitely a plus when doing that kind of work that deep into a motor ! True sign of a professional ! Thanks for the video it's the first time I've seen the head off an the liner pulled on a Cat ! Awesome job !
@dependablekit5500
@dependablekit5500 Жыл бұрын
I still use anaerobic sealant on the spacer plate shim also When I usually cut my bores I cut down until I know I am getting close within a couple of thou then I drop down to cutting 1/2 thou measuring with a digital depth guage then once I have my depth I roll the top adjustment down tight and use a paint pen across the two of them to give me an indexing point great work love your channel !!!!
@floydwilliams3321
@floydwilliams3321 Жыл бұрын
Great work man as usual
@godsdozer
@godsdozer Жыл бұрын
I use a harbor freight grinder when working on the deck. :)
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Obviously the best choice if you don't have a chainsaw to use instead.
@kevinmoore342
@kevinmoore342 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
@perrymclennan868
@perrymclennan868 Жыл бұрын
Great information josh very interesting and information 👍
@manvsroad7691
@manvsroad7691 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video, as usual
@genemartin6962
@genemartin6962 Жыл бұрын
just wondering..... wonder if Cat would approve the use of a magnet along with a vacuum to get those metal shavings.? enjoy watching your videos. Old chevy mechanic here that does not know squat about working on diesels but enjoy watching a real pro do it right. Shops I worked in were always on flat rate and the emphasis was on speed, not quality. Take care and once again, enjoy your videos
@Jerzeyguy
@Jerzeyguy Жыл бұрын
You have a great attitude !
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh
@zayin123
@zayin123 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@charleysgarage
@charleysgarage Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@igorbasarab7553
@igorbasarab7553 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video! 👍🏻
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@Graive17
@Graive17 Жыл бұрын
I've used pieces of granite off cut from a countertop manufacturer to use as a sanding block. Works like a charm for sanding the block 👌
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
I bet they are pretty dang flat.
@Graive17
@Graive17 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe Very flat, also very abundant, free and in all sorts of sizes and shapes.
@zachwalker5085
@zachwalker5085 Жыл бұрын
I had a twisted o-ring on my a cylinder sleeve after a platinum rebuild… it blew after about 20k miles. Had similar issues to begin with eating coolant
@jonathanfenne4948
@jonathanfenne4948 Жыл бұрын
That deck has been out in the rain for some time, I think.
@expatconn7242
@expatconn7242 Жыл бұрын
Kick ass vid josh..😂
@familytraditiontransportat7951
@familytraditiontransportat7951 Жыл бұрын
APC head I'm guessing?? They're always my go to for heads anyway. Good video, lots of really good information!!
@hallsdzl
@hallsdzl Жыл бұрын
I like the cummins jets because being plastic they'll break off you forget. If you accidentally bump those and even bend them in the slightest- they can be reused and nobody is the wiser until the customer melts #6 pulling a hill a week later. Just my .02 though
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Yes, plastic internal engine parts are a great idea in general 👍 perhaps even paper would be even better.
@robertlove-ox3zu
@robertlove-ox3zu Жыл бұрын
You should use the roller bearing from the inj cup pulling tool on the pack puller. Prevents slipping and burning up the 400 dollar rubber cup
@robertquast9684
@robertquast9684 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about this truck when you posted the 3406 with the plugged water passage
@elljay4587
@elljay4587 Жыл бұрын
CAT cracks their new heads before they ship them out.
@314899
@314899 Жыл бұрын
You need magnets to catch the shavings from the counter bore. this will save you some time. You may patented this idea if you would like.
@RoosterG33rs
@RoosterG33rs Жыл бұрын
8:55 A common joke in my area. Engine techs would get apprentices to push up under the liner when removing at which point the apprentice would get doused in coolant. A dck move to be sure but an apprentice should know better and it encourages them to think ahead. If a wet liner is surrounded by coolant one should assume that there's going to some coolant there, so don't sit under it.
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 Жыл бұрын
I started using CRC gasket remover to clean decks and heads. It also lifts thick solid carbon deposits off the pistons, amazing stuff really it saves me a ton of time.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Does it remove carbon from EGR parts?
@Jerzeyguy
@Jerzeyguy Жыл бұрын
Yes. Like a hot knife through butter
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe probably. It sprays out like snot so it's more meant for coating a surface. After it sits for 10 minutes I use a plastic scraper to remove the crud.
@freedomforourfallen3755
@freedomforourfallen3755 Жыл бұрын
You don’t need to pull the rod caps out. Lol. Love me some learning.
@SuperSecretSquirell
@SuperSecretSquirell Жыл бұрын
While I haven't don't as much hg work as you have, the few I have done all have that grey finish. I figured it was normal-ish.
@rbwoodwork1890
@rbwoodwork1890 6 ай бұрын
Ha, I got to where I just pulled the pistons then using a different type puller I would pull all the liners separately. 😁
@gregmckinney6977
@gregmckinney6977 Жыл бұрын
The dark color looks like someone used "Indian Head" gasket sealer before they put the shim in place. It leaves a dark brown to black color to the metal. It's a shellac type of sealer commonly used on motorcycle cases in place of gaskets.
@robiecarmichael9958
@robiecarmichael9958 Жыл бұрын
I thought in part 1 you stated that the block was a cat reman and the other shop simply installed the long block, then installed the head and accessories? If it was a low mileage block why would Cat not pay to correct the liner protrusion issue?
@timf6916
@timf6916 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@blown572hemi
@blown572hemi Жыл бұрын
Looks like he got screwed by the rebuilder w/o lube or a reach around. Hopefully after you get thru with it, he'll have many more of trouble free miles. That deck is waver than the beach
@johngoldsmith6629
@johngoldsmith6629 Жыл бұрын
Was the liner projection low from losing its crush and moving around? Odd that a reman short block has low projection. Liner is 0.350, minus spacer plate 0.338, minus shim thickness roughly 0.008. So projection should be around 0.003 to 0.004 typically. On our stand to pull the pack, we added about one inch, so the liner comes completely out of the lower deck. I use the counter bore shim as the gauge. I mic all shims and get the thinnest one of the set. Once my tool is set up I use masking tape and tape over the top of the entire deck to prevent metal shavings from getting into head bolt holes and water holes. Very odd color on the top deck. Since 5EK engines and such don't have a drain back seal. I asked to see if the funnel seal could be made and put in that area. Not sure if it has enough material to rest on.
@danielrowe2174
@danielrowe2174 Жыл бұрын
This truck should be called One Eye Purple people eater.
@nicklarson685
@nicklarson685 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully there's a third video to complete the saga
@kylerf150
@kylerf150 Жыл бұрын
If he's using an aftermarket head he needs to and I cant stress this enough change the cups and seals to CAT my apc head lasted 7 months and ultimately caused a rebuild due to liner seals.
@knickebien1966
@knickebien1966 Жыл бұрын
3:32 I believe that is a dial indicator
@Jamk14
@Jamk14 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that oil plug was so tight 😂😂
@markm0000
@markm0000 Жыл бұрын
When you need a big impact to get the plug off pray for forgiveness.
@cohendmr
@cohendmr Жыл бұрын
To protect the deck of my pullers if space isn't much of an issue, I'd pick up a small taper bearing and race with the inner dia of the bolt. Put more effort into pulling instead of turning force. Also a LOT cheaper than a thrust bearing.
@camshaftP16
@camshaftP16 Жыл бұрын
You do the same things as me which makes me feel good that I've been doing it right for the last 22 years, but I quit using the liner puller plug and go straight for the "jaws of life" and pull liner out separately. We cut all our blocks now just to be sure the protrusions are good. I'm interested in this aftermarket head quality, is it IPD ?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
Haven't got the head yet. There will be at least 1 more video in this series and maybe 2.
@dependablekit5500
@dependablekit5500 Жыл бұрын
What a Caterpillar head cracked ROFLMAO no way
@gcflower99
@gcflower99 Жыл бұрын
How much will the previous shop "chip in" to reimburse the owner for the crappy assembly??!!
@HandleMT
@HandleMT Жыл бұрын
always wondered if high engine temperature helps cause sinking liners
@2secondslater
@2secondslater Жыл бұрын
The tool you are using is a dial indicator
@craigmartin6826
@craigmartin6826 Жыл бұрын
You have to do at less a 100 foot pounds of torque on your liners in order to find tip an dropped liners that’s why a lot of over hauls fail an put it at 6 thousands because liners settle over heat an time number 5 is problematic because of the manifold passed the hot gas to the center making the back center to burn up so get a manifold with better flow
@MrHotforhoneys16
@MrHotforhoneys16 Жыл бұрын
So dude went to some backyard mechanic got a cheap motor figured he’d save a bunch of $$ and the whole top end was trash. Life lesson never take the cheap way out
@Jamk14
@Jamk14 Жыл бұрын
So was this a cat issue since it was there short block? Or the other shop?
@williamshorter559
@williamshorter559 Жыл бұрын
Yeah adept, you mentioned about a third the way after you started that you wanted to see machining marks, they're also called witness marks.great video , real professional workmanship.
@cintroberts6614
@cintroberts6614 Жыл бұрын
Black Decks Matter.
@user-jp1hs6sl3h
@user-jp1hs6sl3h Ай бұрын
When you first start watching, this is an inside joke. But once you see it you get it 😂
@ronniewilliz153
@ronniewilliz153 Жыл бұрын
Half way through is that deck cerakoted or how ever you spell it. Spell check don't pop up on my phone anymore lol
@bigbellyrebuilds2778
@bigbellyrebuilds2778 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why you couldn't plug all the holes to keep the shavings out.
@aimenkajjouni2480
@aimenkajjouni2480 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for to all videos and please let sous-titre
@aaronritsema9348
@aaronritsema9348 Жыл бұрын
Do you get demonize because I still hear the destruction of the week music in my head when the introduction is played asking for a friend
@royalcrowntowing2464
@royalcrowntowing2464 7 ай бұрын
What would happen if you just put the thinnest shim possible under all the liners but didn't cut the counter bores , or install the shim on the cylinder that dropped then recheck the protrusion on the cylinders that were out of spec , would that give sufficient crush on that cylinder ?
@michaeldunagan8268
@michaeldunagan8268 Жыл бұрын
@7:10 Geezeee.....😯 With all these destruction of the weeks with Windows being put in the block of Caterpillar engines- -it is a blessing that caterpillar is building new replacement blocks for these engines. May anyone tell me that any block made in 2023 to replace a block originally built in 1999 or later can still meet the Federal ELD exemption...???
@richardblanke5521
@richardblanke5521 Жыл бұрын
Oh joy
@Mikheno
@Mikheno Жыл бұрын
What grade of sandpaper grit do you use for flat sanding?
@joeyf504327
@joeyf504327 Жыл бұрын
seems odd that you cant mill the shim plate down one or two thou to get the clamping back. That what shims are for, to fine tune the tolerance.
@johngoldsmith6629
@johngoldsmith6629 Жыл бұрын
At one time Cat sold a thinner spacer plate. Do not know if it is still available. The problem on a top flange liner on a Cat is, the head gasket fails usually between two cylinders. Between four and five is the most common place. So the top deck of the block has fretting from the liner into the block. As the clamping force is relaxed from the failed gasket. Thus the fretting is not consistently around. The rear is usually worn more over the front. So by putting a thinner plate between the head and cylinder block, you are forcing the liner flange into a non level area. You may break the flange, have uneven liner projection. Thus you will have a early hour failure on the joint again. Years ago you had a cast iron shim. As emissions got tighter, cylinder psi increased. So the cast iron shim cannot handle the load. The stainless shims hold up better. Higher HP engines makes the problem even worst. As fuel is injected the liner expands and contracts. As the liner is so much harder over the block, that area wears out.
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 Жыл бұрын
👍 ACCOMPLISHED Adept Ape My Mentor Adept Ape Take care and have a great evening with all your family around you ACCOMPLISHED Adept Ape From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 18:59pm Good Evening
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe Жыл бұрын
You're such a nice guy Nick! You comment on every video.
@mdtransmissionspecialties
@mdtransmissionspecialties Жыл бұрын
Guarantee the black on the block you had to sand off was from combustion.
@cullenmiller8170
@cullenmiller8170 Жыл бұрын
Is that considered a warranty repair since it is a low hour CAT long block?
@HandleMT
@HandleMT Жыл бұрын
put many long block Cat reman engines together and found the quality to be awesome. This engine really made me wonder about the quality control now used. Also I bet the blocks being rebuilt now are getting pretty worn out I got a Cat reman engine from Cat on a warranty claim and it has an over cut block and under crank in it. No problems.
@yeahok115sure
@yeahok115sure Жыл бұрын
Was that engine a new rebuild from cat? If so wouldn’t cat warranty all that work
@davidwalk9045
@davidwalk9045 Жыл бұрын
Can you use the seen from Brother where are tho. "That don't make no sense"....
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