CZ 457 MTR, LILJA BARREL, WOLF MATCH EXTRA ACCURACY TEST

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Pursuit of Accuracy

Pursuit of Accuracy

3 жыл бұрын

CZ 457 VARMINT MTR 22LR RIFLE Accuracy Testing
Watch Lilja Headspace accuracy testing video here: • .22LR HEADSPACE: How m... ​
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In this video we take the CZ 457 Varmint MTR rifle I personally use for PRS22 competition. We show accuracy out at 50 yards on paper with Wolf Match Extra Ammunition and talk about the rifle based on my personal experience. We shoot the Wolf Match Extra in our 50 yard stock match ammo test with a stock CZ 457 MTR with the Lilja match barrel installed.
Benefits to the 457 MTR over a traditional 457 rifle is the Turkish walnut stock with plastic pillars as well as the very accurate match chamber barrel.

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@terrykleypas50
@terrykleypas50 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test. You can definitely hear the difference in the report of the ammo.
@Natezoinks
@Natezoinks 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see what that ammo can do. I didn’t know who made it, that’s cool. I’ll put some through my 457 vptmtr. 👍🏻
@romeobravo2023
@romeobravo2023 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always and most informative.
@robertwatson818
@robertwatson818 2 жыл бұрын
Your shooting reveals the same issues I have while trying to wring the best accuracy out of my Savage 22--ammunition. One lot gives fantastic groups--same ammo--different lot--flyers everywhere. Consistent .22 ammo is hard to find with Eley Ten-X being the most consistent so far.
@johnhermsen6456
@johnhermsen6456 3 жыл бұрын
First group 2 shots the sound was different Now I am listening again and again and you are not stupid You are a human just like everybody You say it too at the end powder well done
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah its very obvious when you shooting it and you hear the shots
@HSmith-uk9hl
@HSmith-uk9hl 11 ай бұрын
I bought a ton of the original Wolf that came from the East German factory when it was first imported. It was outstanding ammo and shot lights out. The price at that time was $13 a brick. One of the guys I shoot benchrest with still uses it, having bought a massive amount. He wins... a lot. Now no one uses it because Eley has turned it into plinking ammo.
@45auto
@45auto 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information.👍
@jaquesbuckle4132
@jaquesbuckle4132 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the nice informative and unbiased video's. Is there a improvement in accuracy using the LILJA barrel over the original CZ 20 inch barrel ??
@70willard
@70willard 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid . I shoot some wolf and it’s pretty good stuff out of my cz .
@jimblackbird5678
@jimblackbird5678 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I use.👍. Went out today, I liked it. At 50 yards, I’m getting .4-.5. Same as you.
@alexspencer8904
@alexspencer8904 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have a lot of wolf that would just flat out hammer 0.2-0.3" groups at 50rds. Wolf has been hit and miss, you either get a lot that's stupid good or has issues with fliers.
@smartone3976
@smartone3976 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had great results with using a limb saver (rubber) barrel tuner with my .22s. Since you like experimenting, I highly recommend trying it out. They may look a little funny, but I’m a believer. Results are all that matters.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I plan to test a harrils tuner this year
@ShooterB1
@ShooterB1 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Just bought my first Athlon Ares UHD. Would love to have the Midas TAC
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice i had an Ares and it was super nice. I really like almost all the Athlon scopes. Got a cronus on the way to me soon for my open gun
@bobbythompson3544
@bobbythompson3544 2 жыл бұрын
The moving target does my head in!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I understand. I made a specific target stand to fix that issue. All of my latest video's are utilizing it so no more target movement with wind.
@oldglock3903
@oldglock3903 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. It is heard that sometimes the shot is louder and then it flies out....
@nemsisbusa
@nemsisbusa 3 жыл бұрын
Good video I like the honest results without cherry picking. The only thing I could see to improve the video would be to set up a LabRadar so we could see velocities along with the groups 👍
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I will see what i can do about getting a chrono involved
@Jeff-mv4yy
@Jeff-mv4yy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you. Maybe it was a bad lot of WE Match. Nonetheless, I have seen several videos with Lilja barrels and I have yet to see one that has been much different than the factory barrel in terms of group size. I just subscribed. You do a great job explaining variances in real world comparisons.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff. I have personally seen the lilja outperform my MTR barrels but it isn't a landslide victory. The CZ is nice enough factory that nothing will make enormous gains in my opinion.
@lewisrice3741
@lewisrice3741 Жыл бұрын
I have 6 czs and three are vpt mtrs and I don't think these aftermarket barrels shoot any better than the factory barrels I might be wrong but I don't think I could improve on the way my cz457s shoot mine shoots lights out all of them do. Beagleman
@Jeff-mv4yy
@Jeff-mv4yy Жыл бұрын
@@lewisrice3741 since my post above , I recently bought a Lilja for my CZ. Mostly because I wanted a longer barrel. The factory barrel was for sure a great shooting barrel . The Lilja is a little better , but let’s put it in perspective . Sk rifle match averaged 0.27” in my CZ factory barrel. The Lilja averages 0.21” with the same lot of ammo . Center x averaged 0.27” in my CZ barrel . It’s averaging 0.18” groups in the Lilja . The biggest difference is with sk+. Sk+ averaged 0.41” in the CZ barrel, and 0.31” in the Lilja . One thing noticeably different is the standard deviation of group sizes . The Lilja will shoot much more consistent group sizes . The difference between the maximum and minimum group size on the Lilja appears to be very little by comparison to the CZ . My CZ barrel is a 16.5” Varmint pro .Honestly , I was hoping the Lilja would be as good as the cz . Lewis, I gotta believe the mtr barrels will run with anything .
@johnschniederjan1683
@johnschniederjan1683 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you do the average overall
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@iancrawford16
@iancrawford16 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh can you do the same ammo test through the standard barrel too please? Ian UK
@sha6mm
@sha6mm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Great Work.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@rudysroots2789
@rudysroots2789 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought that scope and haven’t tracked it yet.
@kimberlydyer8872
@kimberlydyer8872 Жыл бұрын
Great show. What part of NC ? We used to shoot Shelby, and Rutherford.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Im right outside of greensboro
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 3 жыл бұрын
Good video and information. I have never shot wolf ammo 22 long rifle. Thanks for the video. Just got a CZ 457 MTR and looking for spare magazines. Any good recommendations for buying them,
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Right now i dont know anyone who has them in stock. Not sure whats up with the magazine shortage
@zacharybattista4928
@zacharybattista4928 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir i have 3 bricks of this stuff i think ill be selling. I think the SK rifle match will rock your world.
@pranc236
@pranc236 Жыл бұрын
Been awhile since i had some wolf. Mine all said eley primed, like that old agulia ammo. I dont think it is made be eley though. I shot allot of eley club and that wolf never out did the eley club for me.
@IY6C
@IY6C 3 жыл бұрын
Good video
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@scottjones5406
@scottjones5406 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have the same rifle stock in a 223. Where did you get your check riser?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I bought it online. Victor titan universal cheek rest
@Bigfish1day
@Bigfish1day Жыл бұрын
Good old NC, my home also. I like the way that barrel performs, did you send off or is it DIY swap? I have a 457 varmint and thinking about a switch.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Diy swap
@SR-jz6jh
@SR-jz6jh 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of video's on different rimfire rifles and the CZ performs very well for the price, I'm looking to get a long range .22 in a good price range and I'm still undecided. What are your thoughts on the CZ barrels using two set screws to hold the barrel in place. I would prefer the barrel to be threaded into the action like the 452 was, I find it would be a better set up I'm not interested in swapping barrels out.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
The set screws havent been an issue but if you find you really like the barrel just epoxy it in.
@alfonsorodriguez6437
@alfonsorodriguez6437 2 жыл бұрын
Wolf ammo is the same as SK ammo since they both manufactured at the SK plant in Germany. So, different names but same components and manufacturing.
@Clifford-jv7hk
@Clifford-jv7hk 5 ай бұрын
Wolf .22 ammo is made by Eley in England.
@charlesfitzgerald6095
@charlesfitzgerald6095 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think sorting by weight & rim thickness would improve your group size with the cheaper Match ammo?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Not really with match ammo. Most the brass rims and priming is really consistent. I think with the wolf match extra it was just a lot of powder variance
@jordanguest4439
@jordanguest4439 2 жыл бұрын
What cheek risers are you using?
@davidpayne3604
@davidpayne3604 10 ай бұрын
I have a new MTR coming to me this week, could you tell me the best source for a cheekrest for this stock, I’m not crazy about drilling holes in a new stock, so maybe something not permanent….thanks for your time
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 10 ай бұрын
I had to drill for mine. Not sure on something that doesnt need to be drilled
@terryrichardson-wf5jo
@terryrichardson-wf5jo Жыл бұрын
Josh, need to get hold of one of ya t-shirts mate, your Biggest Aussie supporter. Richo. Large. Ps. Tell me how much , Thanks
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Hey brother. Email me @ Josh@pursuitofaccuracy.com
@MrWolfsangel
@MrWolfsangel 11 ай бұрын
In this price range I prefer SK rifle match or long range match. Wolf pretty inconsistent, specially in a last years. Used to be good ammo
@bertraminc9412
@bertraminc9412 2 жыл бұрын
What length barrel is that please. I’ll be ordering a Lilja barrel for my CZ 457 MTR next week. Thank you!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the mtr 20.5"
@anthonybanks4633
@anthonybanks4633 3 жыл бұрын
It looks good I think
@TargetSuite
@TargetSuite 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed there was a significant difference in the report between the first round and second round of the second group. Maybe it's just my old ears😉
@TargetSuite
@TargetSuite 2 жыл бұрын
Of course I listened to the rest of the video and noticed you heard the varying report as well. By the way I'm a pretty new subscriber to your channel and really like your stuff. I've been into long range Precision in the past but only recently have taken an interest in 22 long rifle Precision. It's a ton of fun, a little bit less expensive, and more compact in that the ranges aren't as extended.
@michaelcunningham6641
@michaelcunningham6641 3 ай бұрын
I just got a 500 round box of wolf match extra for $10 ..!!.. I hope my 10/22 likes it !!!
@jwschroeder804
@jwschroeder804 Жыл бұрын
Any idea where the two Eley-mfg. Wolf 22LR brands fit into the Eley lineup? Coating could reveal.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
I dont know honestly but im guessing pretty low on the food chain
@jwschroeder804
@jwschroeder804 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy shoots like it too.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
@@jwschroeder804 🤣🤣🤣
@kim003jm
@kim003jm 3 жыл бұрын
hello sir , i have same gun , i try a lot of bullets , for me the best was ELEY SPORT .
@John.VanSwearingen
@John.VanSwearingen 3 жыл бұрын
That ammo sounded like Eley Target or Club. The rounds sounded all over the place.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I think its what doesnt make the cut for club or target.
@conservativesniperhunter7439
@conservativesniperhunter7439 3 жыл бұрын
Not bad considering the price of this ammunition.
@thebridman225
@thebridman225 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in!
@BD-ft3uw
@BD-ft3uw Жыл бұрын
Great video. What bolt knob are you running? Thanks
@williamkoppos7039
@williamkoppos7039 3 жыл бұрын
7:20 "because....I'm an idiot". Love it when guys don't take themselves to seriously. I've had good luck with Wolf. Like all else rimfire, somes likes it and somes don't. Hard to beat SK tho.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks. Its hard to take anything i do seriously
@ianwoodward1554
@ianwoodward1554 2 жыл бұрын
Still a cracking shot, you are better than this and that just draws down to the quality of ammo. How’s the training coming along.
@paulwilson421
@paulwilson421 6 ай бұрын
What cheek rest would you recommend for the MTR?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 6 ай бұрын
If you dont want to damage the stock make one with foam and some wrap you can remove later. If your ok damaging the stock than the victor titan cheek rest
@paulwilson421
@paulwilson421 6 ай бұрын
@PursuitofAccuracy thanks. I bought the 457 synthetic a few years ago and love it but really want the MTR. I've got 400yrds to play with and really wanting to stretch my skills. Best I've done is 8in gong at 200 with a cheap rimfire scope from Cabela. Planning on a stock division setup
@mem13111
@mem13111 4 ай бұрын
Где такую переделанную купить можно?
@richarddesimone4451
@richarddesimone4451 2 жыл бұрын
I know I have run this by you in the past but.....And yes, I know you have indicated its difficult to get a chronograph in the picture along with you and the target..........That being said, even if the viewers cannot see the chronograph, it would nice if you could verbally relate velocities when a shot is out of the group. I shoot my CZ always with the LabRadar along side the rifle. When I am shooting groups and a shot goes out (knowing it is not the nut behind the butt or the wind {as I always have at least one wind flag/daisy wheel}, 75% of the time, it is shot out of the normal velocity (for that ammo) that causes the flyer. And I know you have also indicated its hard to get wind flags in the picture however, it would be possible for you to have them present so you could comment effectively about both the wind and velocity in relation to accuracy. Along with your video where you were position shooting (in the snow), that was OK, but, it is more a testament to your ability and the conditions vs. the actually accuracy of the rifle and ammo?? Anyway, always enjoy your video's!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I plan on getting a lab radar when I can dig myself out of the hole a little bit to use on the channel. I should be able to include that in ammo testing videos relatively easily.
@richarddesimone4451
@richarddesimone4451 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy that will be much appreciated Josh...thanksi
@AbeCaravetta
@AbeCaravetta Жыл бұрын
How often do you clean your 22 Rifles?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Depends on the rifle but every 300-400 rounds
@capomand45
@capomand45 3 жыл бұрын
where did you get the stock cheek riser please??
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Online. Its a victor titan cheekrest
@roperboy87
@roperboy87 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an awesome cheek riser I ordered one
@gantengmubazir7954
@gantengmubazir7954 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@scottsquires6186
@scottsquires6186 Жыл бұрын
Who makes the check riser
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Victor titan
@ScottSmith-bx5xv
@ScottSmith-bx5xv Жыл бұрын
I’m in
@anthonybanks4633
@anthonybanks4633 3 жыл бұрын
Try to put the target in the frame
@charlotteresidentr6799
@charlotteresidentr6799 11 ай бұрын
What part of nc my guy
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 11 ай бұрын
Greensboro
@zermomia
@zermomia 2 жыл бұрын
Cardboard moving with the wind ,back and forth .....if you are hoping for accuracy, think about securing those boards.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Look at any of the videos after that and its been secured
@zermomia
@zermomia 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy i realized that.... But I wrote the comment just got the sake to fill the comment section......;)
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@zermomia haha fair enough
@ricks2651
@ricks2651 3 жыл бұрын
I want that scope. I hope I win.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck
@ricks2651
@ricks2651 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks Josh.
@littleteethkeith
@littleteethkeith 3 жыл бұрын
Woof
@ricks2651
@ricks2651 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
You need to comment that on the actual scope giveaway video. Which i will have out late tonight early tomorrow sir.
@ricks2651
@ricks2651 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you Josh. Sir? 😂I'm not that old. I'm only 9 months older than Rick 6.
@boydsteenblock1328
@boydsteenblock1328 Жыл бұрын
“Woof”
@Mr.Spectaculous
@Mr.Spectaculous 3 жыл бұрын
That ammo was better when it was made by Lapua.
@RonV535
@RonV535 3 жыл бұрын
Oh the days when Target was Standard Plus and Extra was Rifle Match. Spent a lot of money on Extra for matches.
@joed3264
@joed3264 3 жыл бұрын
Wolf Match Extra = Eley Club.
@dickhedges182
@dickhedges182 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have been hanging with Ray to much with all that VD talk.
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