Thanks for showing my worst skee ball throw of the entire event -Chase

Does everyone forget the biggest competitors to this car, the Corolla and Civic, also have CVTs? I mean, yea, the Corolla/Civic is proven, but it seems like everyone makes a big deal(good or bad) about CVTs unless we’re talking about Toyota/Honda

Savagegeese and mr.regular best teamup of car guys ever! That infotainment screen looks great

There absolutely needs to be more collaborations with you and Mr. Regular, it is a match made in heaven

Thank you for another great review video. I am one of the car enthusiasts living in S. Korea. Hyundai and Kia returned their directions for endurance for the daily car. The previous version of ELANTRA (AVANTE in S. Korea) and Forte (K3 in S. Korea) focused on the specs and digits. However, maybe you guys probably know, GDI engines had some general issues. Lots of complaints in S. Korea and demands of higher fuel efficiency let them develop IVT (CVT). It might not be the best in the whole car industry, they announced that they really tried to improve both the fuel efficiency and endurance. For example, they changed the belts into the chains. And like he says, they emulated the CVT logic programs like the traditional automatic transmission. Here in S.Korea, the overall reputation of Forte (K3) is pretty good (Actually, S. Koreans have some prejudice of domestic cars as not good.) So, I think this version of Forte could be somewhat successful in the USA too.

Ive had mine for one year . 20 years of Honda and I have to say my forte is just as good. 42 mpg at 75 mph on trip. 37 mpg around town. Like it so much my wife last night purchased a sportage . Keep up the great work Kia

I think it was Regular who said that ford exiting the small car game will just open the floodgates for automakers like Kia to scoop up the lag. And he is right. I’m not much for Kia, but they will have continued supremacy in the low end of the market.

Was the invite because of that beautiful 2016 optima intro you did? I still think about it sometimes.

I bought the base model, $20,000. It is fantastic! Great gas mileage 30/40, huge trunk!, quick pick-up speed when entering the interstate! I bought it in April, and have no issues. Can't wait to drive it every day :-)

It was slightly rigged but it was great meeting my most favorite youtuber. I think your analysis of the car was spot on as always I just think its funny Kias response to why have a CVT or torsion beam in the back is "our customers don't notice it" lol But I suppose that is the truth. Can't wait for your full review I hope we cross paths again. Take care sir -Kevin

Thanks for your first look review! Can’t wait for your full review! Awesome first look video

I actually bought a new LX forte last night and I'm so happy with the purchase, I didn't even know it was a CVT until this video. You honestly don't notice it being different than any other car.

Mr Geese. Another great review, I'm thinking about getting a subcompact car and these reviews help man. Thanks man

I have to admit that Kia has surpassed so many other brands when it comes to higher quality, They are definitely above Chrysler.

Simplicity, reliability, value for money !!! 👌🏆👍 Kia Forte & Ceed & XCeed Hyunday Elantra & i30 & i30 Fastback

Great bang for buck. Loved this short and informative video.

Great video, looking forward to the full review. I'm interested in these more simple new cheap cars.

I don't understand why manufacturers don't embrace the CVT transmission as it is. There's no need to decrease the fuel economy because they want the CVT to act like an automatic transmission. If they optimize their CVT transmissions to perform like a true CVT and if it gets amazing gas mileage, people are going to ignore the CVT and buy the car because of the great MPG's they can get.

You’re warm and fuzzy

Looking forward to the full review ... cheers!

Looking forward to your take on this vehicle with a long-term review.

When he talks I listened...sir, you the best...no bs, no emotion just straight facts...

Love your videos very in depth and great quality, will you review the Forte GT? Looking forward to seeing you review it

Great video especially given the circumstances. I'm also impressed by the CVT from what you have documented. But it still seems slow to initially build revs.

LOL at the Outro with Mr Regular...I was waiting the whole video for something like that...

Have this car for 5months now and gotta say I love my car still fun to drive and packed with infotainment and surprisingly really spacy

You know what else makes me warm and fuzzy.... savagegeese himself

I’m curious, on your thoughts if you do get a corolla hatchback for review with that first gear launch paired with its CVT.

Another great video. The vehicle looks good. I wonder if it will compete well against its competitors and Sub Crossovers. It can't be cheap to develop a small car like this. Is there anything new or interesting you learned from Kia about... Kia or the direction of the brand? Also, didn't wear a SavageGeese shirt. Don't know why I noticed that. - - - - - -Everyone needs to go to Patreon and give this man some cash.

Tail lights look amazing, that is all I have for you on this short stint. I'll have more during the full review. Take care, talk to you soon.

I have a beef with CVT's pretending to be an automatic transmission. Manufacturers are programming CVT's to do this just to pacify people who have been living with automatics their whole lives. The problem is that the drivetrain is now compromising efficiency and power, just for the sake of the perception. A CVT works on the principle that an internal combustion engine runs most efficiently at a certain RPM given the load applied to it. A real, uncompromised CVT will allow an engine to hold whatever RPM is required. This is what gives CVT's the edge when it comes to acceleration and fuel efficiency. By making a CVT emulate an automatic transmission, their biggest advantage is being negated. It's silly, and I disagree with it.

Great work, Friend. I have to admit it, it's a handsome car. Very attractive inside and out. The reliability will be the $6 million question, but I've observed less issues with Hyundai and Kias in the past decade or so...

Theodore, at the 7:52 mark -- what do you use to hold that blue phone on the dash? As much as Android Auto / Apple Car Play are a step up from the car OEM's software, I still prefer my phone (much more powerful and much less restrictive) and prefer the existence of a CD player as a mount-point.

I can really see the bromance developing between you and Mr. Regular. I can't say I blame you, I've been a big fan of his work for quite some time as well. Will this new Forte be built at the assembly plant in Monterey, Cohuila, Mexico?

Nice car... and good short review!

If you look carefully at the beginning, kind of towards the bottom right, you'll see the soon to be released Kia Dodge SRT.

Port injection? Mock me if you will (I know the inherent advantages of direct) but port is just simpler, lower stress, easier to maintain, and you don’t get the same constant clatter of the direct injection engines. I’m not sure how it’ll play out with fuel economy or performance and the like, but those older port fuel injection engines just seem quieter and simpler. I’d take it. The CVT is off putting at times, especially since the Elantra retains the 6-speed automatic, but it’s not the end of the world. They are smooth transmissions, and in a simple commuter and transportation appliance, that’s what you need.

Great stuff again, Are there any "Union Made" in the USA affordable 4 doors in existance? I watche d the "Mechanics Special" and those two guyz said Hyandai/Kia/Lexus thats it? I was watching "Straight Pipes" and you got a shout out.

I know Pittsburg has a lot of hilly wild ass roads, is the Kia good flying through the air?

I really like your honest reviews Something you did not mention about the cumbustion cycle Kia announce that engine will be working on atkinson cycle for more fuel economy Is that something you have been told about? I enjoy your videos especially the blueprints ones👌🏼

I hope MR Regular does a review on this car or at least a POV drive

Sad I missed this press release event, so close to home too.

Only one thing they don't have on the list - SX model, and this is something that I really wait for. Even main representative for the US I talk with says "We still don't have any info from KIA about the sports version..." That trim will definitely be missing in this new hit from Korea..

Thank you I love the way you explaining about the Kia, just because that I want to buy one ☝️

I'm deciding whether or not to buy a 2019 Elantra or a 2019 Forte. I love the look of the forte but can't get over the Mexican build quality or the IVT transmission. The Elantra on the other hand is built in the USA and has a 6 speed auto but I'm not so keen on the looks. Which would you choose ?

The vast majority of buyers will still see CVT in print, and may not get to the point of even driving it. It looks like a baby Stinger. It is the best-looking compact on the market, imo. They need to drop the same powerplant that in this Elantra (sport or GT). Can't remember its name. Anyway, I look forward to your complete review. *Great job, as always!*

People complain about CVT because they're a pain in the ass to repair and they don't last nearly as long as other transmissions. Technically they're better in every way, but they're normally just not great. I think if you go CVT, make it a CVT. Make it sound like a scooter for all I care just make it reliable some how.

The introduction: "Mr Regular, meet Mr Constipated. Mr Constipated, Mr Regular"

In the Middle East the Forte or Cerato as it’s called there comes with a 160 hp 2.0 4cyl & thankfully a 6 speed torque converter automatic.

I would like to see a higher-end sport model with their turbo engine along with a manual. I just want the cooled seats as well as a bit more power.

I’m hearing the 0-60 is 11 seconds with the CVT. 😧 What did you get?

That CVT has some really quick fake shift points. I'm impressed by that. Does it fake shift under all throttle input, or just during harder acceleration? This new Forte is based on the current generation Hyundai Elantra. Same architecture. Same 2.0L engine. The differences are in styling, suspension and steering tuning, as well as auto transmission. The Elantra uses a 6-spd automatic. It's very telling to me that the CVT equipped Forte is rated a full 4mpg better hwy than the Elantra with 6-spd auto.

Savage geese. This channel is amazing. Would you be upset if I request a tesla model 3 review? Preferably not the performance edition. I have a non performance awd in the nyc area I'd be happy to let you use as for it as well.

As a Pittsburgh native, the tunnel traffic thing is 100% accurate

What phone mount was used towards the end? Was it attached to the dash?

Neat that they did that with a CVT. Don't want it. Those engineers could have been working on making an automatic transmission lighter and more efficient.

in Australia the Cerato (same car) engine is the same but we still have the 6speed auto. No kia's in aus have CVT (thank god). Combination of 6 and 8speed auto(diesel serento and tucson and carnival)

I really wish automakers just give option to have CVT always on sweet spot.

My 2017 chevy spark cvt simulates gears just like that at higher throttle. I average 37 mpg in town. I love it for what it is. I also own a 2010 forte koup s9 manual that I love as well

I recently bought a 1.0 ceed on europe. the car drinks a bit but it only has 500 kms on it

Driving it as a base model.Really pretty good.Gas mileage on city streets not great.No spare tire,but it seems a place where you can put one.

Very good looking car. Cannot wait for the SX Turbo with the Manual & DCT

Love my Kia and do not see it as an entry level car?... Maybe? After a lifetime of boxy SUVs glad to be back into a regular car. Mine's the Forte hatch with turbo and since it was bought about this time last year, is a 2017. It has a DCT. Which I was apprehensive about at the time. For me it's hard to understand why something like a CTV has to operate like a manual gear box? My last 25 years are with automatic transmissions. I have driven a manual in that time but really overall; so long as the car can haul ass, what does it matter? Cheers

Could you do a review of the Y50 M45 S?

still want to see you compare the 2019 mx5 to the s2000

I'm glad to see that you've come back to affordable cars, enough of the 100k lexus crap, thought you will be in their next lexus December to remember commercial! When does he Accord 2.0 review happen? It's a burgh thang.......

It's difficult to see this latest compact car effort from Kia and not compare it to the current Mazda 3. For example, while this Kia has a CVT that simulates the behavior of a torque converted six speed automatic, the Mazda 3 has an actual six speed automatic, and the fuel economy ratings between the two are equivalent. I also don't know why Kia made the decision to equip this car with a torsion beam rear suspension when the class leaders offer independent rear suspensions.

loved it so much i purchaced the red 1

ok, fine, you put a CVT in it that emulates an automatic. Can you put a button for turning the emulation off? Heck, hide it in the screen with 2 "Are You Sure?" pop-ups. I'd like to see how this thing actually behaves as a CVT. But then I remember that Mazda makes a pretty descent and simple slush-box. Hmm

I HATE when KIA puts the rear turn signals low in the bumper. I would expect it to be a reflector and look for the turn indicator in the main light assembly. This is SOOOOO unsafe for kia drivers. People don't know when you have your turn signal on. Just because you *can* reinvent the wheel, doesn't mean you should.

I've always loved the forte, I reeeally want a hot hatch version, or at least see what one would look like, should be interesting.

I think the WRX automatic is a pretty good CVT. You can let it drone and accelerate quickly, or be slower and do fake shifts. I haven't tried a fast CVT car unfortunately. Only tried the 2017 civic (non-turbo) and that seemed slower than the 2017 Mazda 3 2.0 L.

Is this coming to the UK?

When are you going to review the honda accord?

Guess that lane assist will be useful for changing clothes/mascara applications

Did you get an autograph from subaruwrxfan? He's from Pittsburgh I believe

I was hoping it would have came out this summer, but I ended up getting a killer deal on a 2018 Optima SX turbo

ayee you and Mr. R :)

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I like their (KIA) design language and the fact they give the sub-$20k car the same attention as the over-$40k car. Im still a fan of the Soul, just wish I could get the '+' in a manual and the turbo came w/a real 3 pedal manual. I'd also like to see a real wagon from them and not a Kona/Niro thing

SavageGeese in my hometown! He should've filmed the view of downtown Pittsburgh, exiting those Ft. Pitt Tunnels (at the 05:20 videomark).

I find it an absolute joke that they decided to associate the Stinger with the Forte. Edit : I don't think they need to do that as this new Forte seems pretty good for what it is.

What bout the kia forte 5 turbo model?

200+ HP SX version on the way ???

I'm glad these car companies actually care what you guys think..stay grounded in reality unlike some of these car critics that complain so much that none of us regular commuters will be able to afford a nonsensical fully loaded base model. More gizmos and gadgets = more problems.

looking forward to the hatchback manual and turbo version

So they dumped the gdi? Good because I dumped my 2014 forte because of it.

Elantra GT(non-sport) vs Kia Forte would be an interesting comparison

This hits home for me. 2014 for me

Looks like a cool car. I thought the DCT in the Hyundai Elantra Sport was pretty darn good for what it is.

Mr. Regular!

Do you think they moved away from the GDI motor due to reliability issues? I remember my 2014 blew at 65K.

which ones is better ? fuel direct injection (GDI ) or port injection(MPI) ?? I am clueless sorry .

What’s the 1/4 mile time? Since I only live a 1/4 mile at a time.

The front end reminds me slightly of the WRX, just more bubbly

I like Kia, but the extremely bad reputation CVTs in general have with reliability concerns me greatly.

How come I didn't see a single hatchback?

Lane departure feature and other fancy sensors in a Kia Forte which is a regular compact sedan? Is Chevy, Chrysler and Ford listening? I forgot Ford completely pulled out of this market and Chrysler/Dodge still experimenting with different models like Dart, 200 and Cruze without getting it right while asking for more money. These features are usually reserved for higher trim midsize sedan models like Kia Optima/Hyundai Sonata/Accord, Ford Fusion, Dodge Charger, Chrysler 300, Chevy Malibu, Subaru Legacy etc. #winning

You can see the influence of BMW on the interior so big time. I just test drove the 240 and I see that so much in this car for 2x less the cost, lol. Of course it's slower, but... the interior is pretty nice looking.

At first I was turned off by cvt but I guess I'm over it and should test drive it myself 🙄