Sayin thoughhhhh god damn

lmaoo

lol

Holy crap you're right

😂

+ryvoltz yep I can smell the clutch pad burning

yes thats true... i don't understand how stupid people are... powershifting... u dont lost to many rpm but you can kill the gearbox with that fucking shit... und das ganze auf deutsch... powershifting is beschissen der Vorteil ist zwar das man weniger Drehzahl verliert (klar Kupplung öffnet das zusätzlich noch gas weg verliert man leistung und die Drehzahl sinkt im nächsten Gang) aber dadurch leidet das Getriebe und man kann echt viel Scheiße mit machen zudem isn Getriebe samt anderer Teile richtig teuer und aufwändig wenn man das alte reparieren möchte sofern das noch möglich ist

In case of a drag race, that technique is a good way to cut some decimals if you can't keep up the car next to you.

I disagree, man. I drive manuals ever since I got my driver's license and I don't see how powershifting saves time, since you can release and go back on the throttle at the same time you press and let go of the clutch.

Power shifting can deliver slightly more power to the wheels. If your clutch is tight and you spend as little time possible in between gears, its fine for racing.

O J lol

literally bro. but its a honda so who cares

Sababa Hummus look everyone, it's a kid who is slowly becoming a car "enthusiast" and jumps on the bandwagon because he can't form his own opinion 😆😂

+Lowrider Life lol what that is his own opinion, mine too hondas are pretty shit bar the s2k and nsx

Sam Boofle eg6?? Ek9?? Crx!?!?! Damn Do you know nothing?!?!

Yeah that honda sounded great

Speedy_ 212_ b16a2 vtec crack

I think the acar in the vid was an Acura Rsx

+Rebecca The Creep Same shit.

Not really.

More like: How to ruin your clutch and transmission vs. how to ruin them faster.

Shifting fast hurts nothing, I've logged 100k miles on stock transmissions "quick shifting'' pretty regularly with no problems ..... Power shifting DOES, on the other hand, indeed DESTROY stuff.

Depends on how hard you shift when quick shifting. If you bang the tee total shit out of it, your gearset is gonna weep. Lmfao

Donovan T. In this car the revs haven’t even dropped from 8k quickshifting, it’s still shocking the gearbox and most importantly clutch... it’s just what happens

Donovan T. Duertyes

+bjorn van de walle But for rich people who race and shit tho...

+TheNeostrike hey, poor people shit too y'know

Pred 212 They do? I wouldn't know ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

TheNeostrike Explains your lack of videos? : )

Find a stay at home mechanic and it's not too bad. Cost me $300 to get my clutch replaced and that includes the price of a new clutch lol. Local shops quoted me $685-$1200

***** I have no idea what you're talking about. Why are you talking to me about powerbands? Does flatfoot shifting result in the engine being at a higher rpm once you've shifted in the next gear? No, you'll end up at the same rpm as you would shifting normally therefore you'll be in the same area of the powerband. There is one reason and one reason only for flat shifting. You keep the turbo spooled and that's it. I would advise you to go and buy a boosted car, sit in neutral and give it a rev and tell me whether or not your turbo spools up.

***** no it doesn't stops dead but it stops forcing air into the engine while the bov releases the compressed air in side of the pipe, which would starve the motor, creating vacuum in the pipe for a split second which is called "boost lag"... He's right about power shifting. Its really only efective to keep the turbo spooled to prevent the lost power from lag

***** you have a point there, but the whole point of a turbo is to force air into the motor, or atmospheric force (gravity)

Same lmao

Granny shifting, no double clutching like you should

No you won't. Power shifting makes the car faster.

"slowly tearing up your clutch" A CLUTCH IS WEAR ITEM, EVERY TIME YOU USE IT YOU ARE WEARING/TEARING IT DOWN

Capp2015 so is the ground you walk on but it wears much faster with metal cleats. Power shifting is for people who cant drive. If you have to power shift your car...they make automatics for people like that.

Sean Larson Actually, Powershifting is logical in 1 situation, Drag Racing in a Turbo car, To keep the boost at full thru all gears, Dip shit.

They make anti lag systems for that exact reason "dipshit"...seriously?

***** how do you do that, synchronize by yourself? this is something new to me, doesn't the gear engage fully when you shift or??

ijustinw I simply do not slam the shift lever into the next gear. I can actually feel the synchronization occurring through the lever. It's like this: When you shift, you'll feel a resistance in the lever after you pass "neutral" like a physical notch before the actual end of the lever travel during a shift. That "notch" is the synchronizer and it's important to not rush shifting through that notch. If you just rest the lever against the notch while shifting, it will eventually just fall into gear easily when things are synchronized. It's more noticeable when shifting at high RPM when the RPM mismatch between gears is greater thus putting more load on the synchronizers; not as much at low RPM. More effort/force against the notch creates a faster synchronization (if the synchros can handle it) with "speed" shifting being the extreme case. But like brakes, the harder/faster you shift, the faster it will wear out. On a new gearbox, the synchros are so new that the notch may not be really noticeable and shifts are easy and fast with little resistance or notch. But things will get more notchy as the synchros age and lose effectiveness, especially if "speed" shifting is a normal occurrence. Eventually you get grinding when shifting due to the synchros being too worn to work properly. But shifting gently as described above slows down this wear considerably. My 24 year old CRX above will not shift quite as quickly as when new. It takes just a tiny bit more time for the lever to "fall" into gear than when it was new. But the gearbox's internals are still original and it will not grind when shifting even at high RPM unless I force the lever through the notch faster than the synchros can work. Transmission oil also plays a role in synchro performance. Some oils allow smoother, easier shifting than others. Proper double clutching of up or down shifts is "self-synchronizing" and also prolongs synchros to insane amounts, but that's not practical for many if not most drivers. I used to do all the time which I'm sure has led to my gearbox longevity. I still do it when I want to do a fast downshift at high RPM. It's simply kinder to the synchros. Does that make sense?

pgong this actually was very informative and helpful. I have one question, today when I was waiting for someone, car turned off, I played a little bit with the gear shifter, I went over gears 1 to 2, 3 to 4 and so very fast. Did I make any damage to the synchros?

ijustinw No. Because the engine was off, nothing was spinning inside of the gearbox so no damage can happen. If the the "teeth" on the synchros and collars were not lined up, the lever might not go into gear fully but no problem. The same is true with the engine on and the clutch fully depressed.

ijustinw It should also be said that synchros are designed to be used assuming they're not abused. I don't ever recommend that anyone double clutch their shifts on a synchromesh gearbox per se, but wouldn't ever discourage it either. Shifting normally (single clutch) is normal, designed use. Double clutch shifting is being especially kind to the transmission and synchros and there's nothing wrong with prolonging the life of any machine. Plus, I can actually downshift, when at high RPM, faster with a double clutch so there is a performance advantage for me then.

Paul Hojda Really? I drive a 1.2 myself and I can slam the gears in. Although I usually do not do this because it hurts...:D

+Paul Hojda Is it a Clio 2? Drove my Friend's Clio 2 very briefly and i felt what you described. I however remember driving my uncle's 94 Clio like 12 years ago and quick shifting wasn't a problem. A fun little car for how slow it actually was lol.

French cars are shitty

I have a Civic Si and I’m pretty glad Hondata did this, they basically let you power shift but when you push down the clutch, the ecu locks the rpm from when you pushed in the clutch, I have some videos of me doing it

they're too lazy

+Masayoshi "this is so stupid..."

Cool name

actually power shifting is about half a car length difference between normal shifting and power shifting

iLLinFiniTiG35 Assuming your clutch hooks up properly. And you don't spin the tires.

davetek490 That's not a reason to trash your transmission.

Andrei Vlad I guess it would be if you're racing for pinks. Power shifting should be more clutch wear than anything, though you probably are pounding the synchros pretty hard.

davetek490 Expensive Racing Clutches are build for power shifting, if you drop the rpm lower than the matching rpm it can really hurt the flywheels and engine, because this clutches are build to handle and grip (at least)4x the torque a racing car can produce That's at least what i heard over the years^^

but quickly

yepp! with the ill will to destroy your clutch!

quick shifting isn't bad for your clutch at all. assuming you do it properly. yes, it might wear it a little faster than taking your time between gears, but it's negelable compared to powershifting.

You have fucked up synchros don’t you lol

Ahmo Bandolero Please explain how the turbo loses power?

+Paul theuns the turbo will unspool when you get off power, so it has to respool a little bit if you are quick shifting.

Marshall Morton I agree with that general concept, however this is just not true in all terms. Most nowadays turbo reach there high end line way bore the end of the ref limiter. Only a few cars have linear power lines. So this really doesn't matter. Some cars you can even go back to 4000 rpm and still have max power from the spool instead of going to the 7000'ish... And what I am saying is even more true with twin scroll turbos.

***** Whenever you get off gas on a turbo car the airflow will drop thus not "driving" the turbo...it loses inertia as well. Keeping on throttle mitigates this...at least to the best of my understanding. And no one said anything about rev limiters...why even bring it up? Some philosopher once said: Best to be considered an idiot than open mouth and remove all doubt!

Steve Smythe You sir, have won the crown... You obviously didn't read my comment. This whole video was made to show that if you don't ship fast enough you might lose ''Power''. This is bullshit in most cars! And that is why I talked about the rev limiter. If you go on a dyno you will see the power curve. Most cars, and I bet most of the people here have a power curve that will be constant at around 4000 to 7000 so it really does not matter how you shift. As long as you are above those 4000 your turbo will create it max possible HP. You will never go faster then that. FACT!

forgot to add replacing transmission I am not driving it like this not even mobile because the clutch looked like shredded jerky guy couldn't drive stick currently fixing it.

It trashes your synchro's... what? (What thing or things belonging to a synchro did you mean to be referring to but left out?)

yes!

(clears throat) But as Alex from Car Throttle said: "If you abuse the Multipla like that it will punish you back. For example, if you shift it quickly, in the next second you will see the gear stick pop out of the gearbox."

They have that??

BunnyBUNGALO Lotta factory cars have it now.

Stephen Bagnell its called over rev and its a negative aspect of drive by wire systems. It can be tuned out.

nizmojoeblows What ?

nizmojoeblows So over rev is different than rev matching feature? Please explain the difference. I want to know :D

Lol top 5th is closer to 120 more than anything 6th is pushing 145 stock on type s

Julian Avila 0:30. i doubt it can even hit 120 mph

I have a stock Acura Rsx Type S 05, I've gone close to 150 down hill so cal so 120 ain't a big deal although this guy "power shifting" is going to fuck up his gear box

Julian Avila I really doubt it lol sorry. a shitbox honda 4banger non turbo going 150? no way mate

Lol I don't know what you're thinking but the K20Z1 at 212 Hp isn't a little joke. Even if you go on here you will see Rsx -s hitting 145 running 6.5 rpm, or do you want to see that same engine K20Z1 @1200 HP, 1/4 Mile 7.8 hitting 186, with turbo, cams, cold air, dog box tranny? And that's without shooting nitro. That's my mechanics set up and exact same engine as mine I'd like to hear your engine pull that off. (Although in the bad side he did fuck his engine in Vegas in December drag racing dog box tranny caught 1st instead of going 3rd blew his engine)

Just grinding down the gears. No big deal.

+Marvy Marv I usually rev it all the way to the red line then slam it into the next gear without any clutch. it makes a huge grinding sounds and smoke comes out the floor board but i get an extra .02 at the local parking lot.

that’s just limiter lol

learn to rev match and you'll make downshifting much easier.

powershifting is used by people who race hence the name power shifting makes you go a little quicker at the cost of more wear on ur transmission doing it all the time is dumb but if you wanna race its pretty reasonable

Slow down before down shifting the reason you feel a punch is because the engine is taking the punch by slowing down your vehicle. To downshift slow the car down first maybe to between 1500 to 2000RPM Another thing could be rev matching many tutorials out there. Always match the engine with the transmission.

lol wut I only know like two people who power shift. That wear accumulates. Wear is definitely not worth the extra .0005 seconds down the road.

granny shiftin not double clutchin like youre supposed to

loud as fuck but doesn't go anywhere in a hurry. bit like my ex.

+Mircea Dimian It's the same car throughout the entire video. The car is an 02-04 Acura RSX Type-S.