Quick Tip: Increased My Yields Overnight With Just One Cut

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2 жыл бұрын

Hey MossBacks! We’ve got another informational video for you today.
This is why open source is the way to go in mushroom farming. People networking and learning what each person does well makes all of us better growers. This builds a community that can help turn us all into great growers and at a much faster pace as well. Desert Moon Mushrooms gets a big shout-out from me on helping me get even larger yields by changing nothing but our cuts on our fruiting blocks.
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@OakandSpore 2 жыл бұрын

Ooooooo yeahhhh give me those sweet sweet tips.....

@mycominer 2 жыл бұрын

Just the tips?

@jessecampbell5944 2 жыл бұрын

@@mycominer Just for a second

@teresauhls9685 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos are very informative and much appreciated. I am from Greeneville and am starting my own mushrooms. Have settled down to your videos because they have been great help to me.

@dougreynolds2813 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Andrew, i learn something every time i watch your stuff.

@Gauchooriental 2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear since I have been increasing my bag cuts lately. Actually for my chestnuts I am removing the whole bag like we do for shitakes, and the chestnuts show all over with much bigger yields!!

@JackGilbertJr 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video! Please do more. I know you are busy, but you are making us all better growers. Thank you b

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome, and I will do my best.

@josephmark6676 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips! I will be trying this cut on my next blocks!

@RoyatAvalonFarms 2 жыл бұрын

Andrew, I love to see everything your doing and thank you for sharing so much knowledge. One thing I'd love to see is some shows on preparing and cooking different mushrooms for different dishes. Maybe even invite one of your chefs as a guest, or even film at their restaurant preparing and explaining their dishes. That could almost be a whole sub-series. That could also highlight them as a customer but get them attention that viewers might want to go there to patron their business too. Win-win for everyone. Could call it Cooking Mushrooms for Mossbacks 🤣 Thanks again for what you do.

@jacekwos9256 2 жыл бұрын

, G

@Jaba6798 2 жыл бұрын

Love seeing the facility built out. Sweet man

@lanalee9294 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see you again - thanks for the tip

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

nice to see you too! You are very welcome.

@marymaske1718 2 жыл бұрын

James Maske, WOW Hey Mossy Creek Mushrooms, I started the 1" x 3" Flap Door in Nov. 2020, Good to see you have learn from my success. I get a 1.5 Lb.'s off a 7.8 Lb. Bag.

@johnsjohnson7677 2 жыл бұрын

Always a quality presentation...thanks so MUCH:)

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome, thank you for watching!

@marchosias2071 2 жыл бұрын

hey Andrew i'm planning to start my own farm here in Indonesia, thank you for sharing so much information regarding mushroom cultivation, and sometimes business tips too! u are one of my role model in mushroom cultivation business and i hope my business would be as great and sustainable as yours. Good luck man, again, thank you so much!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

That is awesome to hear, good luck to you and you are very welcome!

@DrGaryGreen 2 жыл бұрын

Akhdan, Salamat alaikum. Yes, I'm bule but my wife and kids are Indonesian. We're in the USA right now but our hearts are always in Indonesia. We lived in Bintaro and I dream of returning and growing mushrooms and edible plants. I hope we meet some day.

@marchosias2071 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrGaryGreen walaikum salam, thats awesome! when u really start the business here someday, perhaps you'd be the first bule to have a mushroom cultivation business in Indonesia 🤣 that'd be cool. Hope everything goes easy for u and ur family! And sure i'd love to meet fellow mushroom grower as well, moreover other people that watch and learn from this channel! Goodluck!

@marchosias2071 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrGaryGreen also greetings from Semarang, the capital city of Central Java Province. Its east of Jakarta, and probably u have already known it as u lived here yourself

@DrGaryGreen 2 жыл бұрын

@@marchosias2071 My Wife was telling me of thousands of people in your area, laid off from work because of Covid. She says they started raising mushrooms. That must be you. You're world famous. 🌎 😄

@lesliemills8340 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video and love seeing the Mjolnair that’s what made me start watching your videos

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@justd43 2 жыл бұрын

Shout out desert moon, 2hr consults, and endless info on the discord!

@mycominer 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Justin!

@rianlockwood2865 2 жыл бұрын

Keep sharing. You're keeping the corporations out! Thank you.

@andreashofer5494 2 жыл бұрын

Great Info, thanks Andrew.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

@pyroparrish2783 2 жыл бұрын

You guys are awesome.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

thnak you

@DuneNobleman 2 жыл бұрын

Nice share Andrew, miss you guys,...

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see you too! I'm through most of the summer slump, you'll be seeing a lot more of me, until next August that is ;)

@4corander 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the info bud, cheers.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome.

@donkulasmushroomsandagri3123 2 жыл бұрын

Sir Andrew I admire your content bro specially about mushrooms 🍄 new friend and happy to watch you 🍄🍄😍

@donkulasmushroomsandagri3123 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this Tips 👍😍🍄🍄🍄🍄

@nielsk85 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see IT pays off to experiment!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

It really does.

@quadlawnmowerman 2 жыл бұрын

Keep them coming champion, no rest for the wicked :)

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

No kidding!

@kicknadeadcat 2 жыл бұрын

Southwest mushrooms mainly cuts the tops off, leaving about 3 inches of bag. That’s what I’ve been doing and had great flushes.

@amanitaocreata4401 2 жыл бұрын

Nice... thanks for sharing

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome!

@jameswoenker2659 2 жыл бұрын

Sweet !

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@themyceliumnetwork 2 жыл бұрын

I tape my first flush cut closed using packing tape & cut open the back side for flush #2.

@mooseuk4915 2 жыл бұрын

So you have realised that cutting a SMILE 😃 into the side of the bags makes them happier and grow more........ Hope you all feel very grounded haha 😄 !!!

@inphinitezero5499 2 жыл бұрын

Haha genius 😆

@3dp_edc 2 жыл бұрын

i think the flap causes a micro climate which the pins love, its the same idea as covering tubs of cubensis with foil or wax paper to cause a micro climate and a massive pinset

@albertsouthafrica6187 Жыл бұрын

Hey Buddy, good job and coodoes to the harvest. The more area you cut.. the more mushrooms you get.. just you might not get the third flush. But way better mass.

@josephbieberly8624 Жыл бұрын

I am very grateful that this Dude is not performing brain surgery on me.

@ale.ktheo.g4394 Жыл бұрын

Awesome!! I'm currently doing bucket tek, and I'm wondering if I do a long cut on the bucket and try to simulate this achievement.

@seniorsib Жыл бұрын

Curious about the 2nd flush technique if you can share some

@jalspaugh3 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos! Is there a reason why most shiitake blocks I see in fruiting Chambers are completely taken out of the bag? Do they have a different process than other mushrooms? I thought that removing the bag entirely tends to dry out the substrate.

@lenickadventuresvlog 2 жыл бұрын

🍄🍄🍄👍 thanks idol

@nicolehenningfeld5919 2 жыл бұрын

Will you/do you address the volume vs weight sales strategy somewhere else? I'm going through a ton of your videos rn, and have watched a few in the past, but I'm really curious about this!

@MsDarkCello 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! I've actually visited the Desert Moon farm in Vegas and the owners are geniuses! They're also some of the nicest people ever. They are more than happy to help and just basically awesome people all around. Great job on implementing their techniques!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

They are very good people, and very open about how they do things. Exactly the kind of attitude we need in the community.

@douglasr.c.5622 Жыл бұрын

I would like to see side by side comparisons, the way you used to do it, next to the new way. Without something like that, it's hard to know, what to think.

@neogeo8267 2 жыл бұрын

Andrew, which particular unicorn bags do you use? We're having issues with pinning in the bag before full colonization. Thanks!

@SkidMarkSmeller 2 жыл бұрын

How do you breed lions mane for larger flushes? Do you put spores to agar and select healthiest sectors and put to spawn or do you clone to agar from a large fruit and select healthiest sectors and put to spawn. Still waiting on that sterilizer trough video :)

@JackGilbertJr 2 жыл бұрын

So with such a big cut and how do you keep it from drying out the substrate? I guess the answer is you’ve got a really great system set up in your grow room. I am a hobby grower this stuff is growing in my house in a small corner in the room. I’m wondering if the results would be the same for me or if I would lose a block because of dehydration.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

With the U cut we leave a flap that helps maintain a micro climate around the bag as well as a good humidity system in your grow will help as well!

@sunOOconuresOOrock 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think lions mane will benefit from this as well? Thanks for sharing!

@8o398 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work 👍 one question though do you have any issues with mold growth on the wood supports for your shelves

@r_c_therapy2188 Жыл бұрын

That looks like treated wood. Which would help combat that But I'm not sure if that's the only answer. 🤷‍♂️

@SkidMarkSmeller 2 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on your process of how to pasteurized substrate in bulk? Maybe a cheaper barrel steamer or horse trough steamer diy option

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

I'll see what I can do.

@SkidMarkSmeller 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial I love your videos!

@4corander 2 жыл бұрын

Does higher yield mean the substrate is being drained of nutrients more quickly? Less flushes?

@quadlawnmowerman 2 жыл бұрын

there is a ratio of surface area exposed to fresh air (the hole/cut) to size of block you should run. These guys are using large 11-15lb blocks which means they need a much large surface area to get high 1st yields compared to what they were doing previously. So yes, less flushes and generally less overall total yield combine with less efficient use of substrate, but the increase in yield for first flush is worth the lower efficient for the vast majority of most farms and there are not many bothering with more than the 1st & 2nd flush anyways. It would be interesting to see if their average cap size got a bit smaller for these guys in the coming weeks as this is normally the case when you go from small to large holes.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

@@quadlawnmowerman Yes, looks like we're getting slightly smaller caps, but way bigger clusters overall.

@jasonbaker7752 2 жыл бұрын

@@quadlawnmowerman I was wondering "why not cut both ends of the bags and get twice as much?". But you answered my question. Block size determines the cut

@4corander 2 жыл бұрын

@@quadlawnmowerman Took me a few weeks to fully understand your response... I really appreciate the info bud! cheers!

@howtohermione2 2 жыл бұрын

lol that ending wtf🤣

@michaellauchenauer6117 Жыл бұрын

quick tip for homegrowers without a fruiting chamber. you need to have a very high relative humidity in your air or your block will dry out with this cut. without a real fruitingchamber with a fogger this will not work well.

@neilanderson7147 2 жыл бұрын

I’m n middle Tennessee, but I’ll move if I’ll make enough for a 1 bedroom apartment. I wanted to grow mushrooms and what’s the best way to learn then hands on.

@theDanWshow 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, thanks for the video. I've been trying to increase my yield playing around with different surface areas to expose. You're getting great results there. What temps are you running to get those flushes, please? Do you keep the same temp morning and night? Cheers.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

The temps fluctuate in the grow rooms throughout the day but we have our hvac set at 64F.

@theDanWshow 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial thanks so much.

@henlomatt Жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew! Thanks for the video! Have you spoken to dessert moon mushrooms about sharing their method on upping their second flush? I was thinking of injecting sterile water into the block after harvesting the first flush with the vaccine gun. Don’t know if it will work. Thanks again for the video.

@forestfruit3231 2 жыл бұрын

Well Andrew, I'm in Scottsboro Alabama now; I moved down from Washington. Would it be possible to come by and say hello sometime? I'd consider the drive to be worth it. Maybe I could pay you for your time like a consultation but come in person instead? Let me know, I'd love to come visit. I've had my first encounter with cockroaches. Captured one little bugger last night crawling on me...lol. He's in a jar now. I captured a second one but it managed to mysteriously escape by the morning....Couldn't help but think back to your videos on raising feeder insects for birds/fish.

@sunepjamir7002 5 ай бұрын

Do they need water spray also? Or if it's humidity level is ok than it don't need water spray?

@TheSkyHive Жыл бұрын

What size bags are you using?

@SkidMarkSmeller 2 жыл бұрын

Do you care to share how you increase the second flush now? Since it’s been a few months

@ebenmmsmushrooms9208 2 жыл бұрын

Please i need grey oyster or blue oyster mushroom tissue culture for warmer temp or hot weather

@CMZneu 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Andrew, great video! have you actually weighed a good amount of bags and compared to the previous cuts to see if this really increased yield? no offence but it seems to simple, plenty of people even myself have at one point or another cut this way and i think the consensus was bigger pinset but smaller mushrooms or worse just more pins that end up aborting wasting energy. I'll try it again though, maybe the key is the little flap of plastic to shield them but think i already tried this at some point or another. Btw why are some of your bags not fully colonised, i know that they are on a schedule but what is generally the case? bad mixing, low spawn rate, bags too hot, contam, etc?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

The bags aren't fully grown in because we stick to the schedule and we had a new guy being trained in shaking bags. Many of those basically were top spawned until he learned better. I'll say I thought all the same things until I tried again. It's proving to be a yield increaser over the smaller squares big time.

@CMZneu 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial good to know, i'll try it out again then!

@hungarianmushroomfarmer3670 2 жыл бұрын

GOAT mix for oysters?

@mycominer 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@zmonty011 2 жыл бұрын

Do we need to do a consultation in order to have access to the discord?

@mycominer 2 жыл бұрын

That, or a less expensive option is to join our Patreon!

@matthewsolano3118 2 жыл бұрын

An x cut on our Chestnuts serves us pretty well

@cakopinolo 2 жыл бұрын

The bags are cutted in the side or the bottom

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

the sides.

@samanthagardener6163 2 жыл бұрын

It's the 02

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

For sure it's the o2 that causes the initial pinning, but I don't think it's necessarily the o2 that supports the overall yield. Unless I'm missing your point?

@skiddysm Жыл бұрын

Remove one whole side of the bag depending where you want it to go

@ferrotakes420 2 жыл бұрын

So I’m looking to do a mentor ship

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Happy to have you come for one. You can schedule it right from our website!

@uhohspaghettios9966 2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking for a mossy creek promo code. I have to purchase the same genetics I just bought and didn't get to use because my son lost them(most likely threw them away)

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Ouch! We do have promo codes with our Patreon.

@uhohspaghettios9966 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial the $3 one will do it?

@robertsoverhere1 Жыл бұрын

Im in colorado 🥺🥺😔

@Behind_enemy_lines_25 2 жыл бұрын

Did you say you guys are hiring in the eastern Sierras?

@mycominer 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, Eastern Tennessee. Didn't mean to get your hopes up.

@Behind_enemy_lines_25 2 жыл бұрын

@@mycominer I was picturing a life of being a full time mushroom grower and fly fishing on the weekends 😂 …

@cullsans 2 жыл бұрын

@@Behind_enemy_lines_25 If you can envision it, you can make it reality ;)

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

@@Behind_enemy_lines_25 Tons of fly fishing out here too!

@ivanmikic7547 2 жыл бұрын

how to find your Discord?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Through supporting our Patreon or doing a consult/mentorship with us!

@dnfmotocross7571 2 жыл бұрын

why are you fruiting some bags that are only half colinized?

@illskill6 2 жыл бұрын

I noticed this as well and I wonder if it is a pink oyster thing. I get pinning before the entire bag is colonized. Albeit his bags were poorly mixed with his grain spawn.

@Zahri8Alang 2 жыл бұрын

My mushroom blocks(mycelium) turned yellow and hot infested.... Ugggg

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Ooof, sad day.

@runecscapeman 2 жыл бұрын

First

@alup4689 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the mycelium run out faster?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but if you get your return on investment faster it doesn't matter if the mycelium depletes faster.

@andrewbarnett2761 Жыл бұрын

I know you have more secrets

@terryrogers8503 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact! The discord was originally free to join, now he's charging! Always a salesman and never a mycologist.

@jesseakc 2 жыл бұрын

We quickly got over ran with people that weren't interested in really working with mushrooms. The discord became a mess for a while. We as a community asked for a way to reduce the influx of not so serious people (to put it politely). Since Andrew tied discord to his Patrion, which cost basically nothing, we no longer have to deal with random internet riff Raff. We hope you join the community Terry, we'd love to have you.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

All too correct!, and thanks @Jesse Campbell for responding before I had a chance to. Terry, your insult might have worked better if I didn't consider it a compliment to basically be called a business man first and never a mycologist!

@terryrogers8503 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial hey at least you admit your not a mycologist. Facts are not meant as insults.

@macmckulis7440 2 жыл бұрын

Brotger I told you on Instagram to cut your bags more like 3 months ago.

@gomezfriesen Жыл бұрын

Hang on... wait... you sell by volume? How does that even work? I mean, liquid is sold by volume. And even liquid is determined by weight. 1L = 1kg. (Even if you are going by ounces, ounces are determined by it's conversion from kg) Mushrooms are the weirdly shaped. I can understand the convenience of measuring something like flour by volume in baking. But I never would. There is no consistency. Sorry to go off on a tangent here. When I purchase mushrooms, of any kind, yes, I buy them by collecting the volume I want for the dishes I know I want to make that week. But to know how much I am going to pay, there has to be some way of measuring it. How do???

@AsgardMedia 8 ай бұрын

Think of a box as a measuring cup.

@neeraj9344 2 жыл бұрын

I am from India and i am very interested in the job, i am fascinated by mushrooms and have a deep interest in mycology. As a company, can you sponsor my visa ?

@RakkaSan7219 2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter about sharing, if you grow and you have not experimented w different cuts, shuld you be given a tip????!!! ComeOn Now

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Eric, I'm not sure who told you we haven't experimented with different cuts. That said, I give people lots of tips whether they've experimented or not. Open source doesn't mean holding back from those you consider beneath you. Though that said, I don't look at other growers as beneath me, so maybe that's the difference?