Will do!

Nice shootin' Tex

I don't know about that. there are serious price pressures in the tool market, and a lot of people have reasonable expectations. Spencer has been explicit in the past about returning 780s, because they were not good out of the box. Which is what I would expect when you are paying like 500 bucks for a miter saw. I couldn't even THINK about building one myself for that price. At work, our last 780 was absolutely terrible. My boss doesn't Calibrate his equipment at all and it wasn't mine and wasn't riding around in my work vehicle, so I didn't check the fence for square or anything, but it had a bearing issue on the slider, causing massive friction when you tried to slide it in and out. My boss procrastinated about returning it until warranty expired, but when the thing was about 13 months old and we had some time, he sent it in JUST to get the slider to slide properly. Anyway, they tore it apart, told him it would basically be the price of a new saw in parts to fix, sent it back to him in pieces, and specifically, it had MAJOR wear on the motor parts, in addition to a slider that didn't slide. And I know for the fact he returned one before he settled on this absolute winner that was in pieces before the 18 month mark. Similarly, last time we got an air compressor, it was one of those porter cables (the formerly reputable company that got bought out by some multinational to trade on the reputation whlie shipping generic factory work with a porter cable decal stuck on it), and the 18 gauge nailgun didn't even work out of the box. came free with the compressor kit, but it went directly into a dumpster. Starrett also used to be known as a decent miter gauge manufacturer, but try reading amazon reviews for their miter gauge. It's out in some cases by entire degrees. Trying to to decide how much you need to spend to turn out accurate work is a constant concern for carpenters, and miter saws specifically, it's a major concern for, which is why you see guys on youtube rocking like 20 year old hitachis because they used to be amazing and are apparently the best miter saw you can get, only problem is that they haven't made them for decades. At work, we were having a serious conversation a week ago about moving to the bosch axial glide, even with it's horrific stock dust collection, because we had such a bad experience with the last pair of dewalts. (the one that got returned and the one that SHOULD have got returned).

I was sent an axial glide to review years ago and it was the worst saw I ever touched. So loose in the slide movement I didn't even bother to use it. Terrible saw IMO.

Spencer, I’ve heard/read you say that in the past. I’ve been using a 10” for 2 years now. I build cabinets, doors, drawers etc. I’ve not experienced that slack. It might be worse with 12” axial but I worry about runout in a 12” in general.

I disagree. That'd be like tossing a new vice on a mill and getting upset with the manufacturer when your vice is holding a part off-square, when the vice really needed to be zero'd out. There are procedures required after purchase, and what he's doing is required in order to produce an acceptable product.

This video is more like a wading pool.

I appreciate that!

That's what has worked for me in the past also.

It'll be coming up. That house is getting very close to being finished.

Same,. 780

he likes zero clearance but he buys the zero clearance inserts from custom fabricating solutions (20 something bucks, ships from US, same place he gets his auxilliary fences from). He covered it a couple videos ago.

I haven't used it much. I haven't found a real need for it.

For furniture making yes ,installing trim work no one sees the back.😊

Mine too... LOL

Good to know.

I hated the m18 10” miter saw. I used it for one job and realized it was horrible to calibrate and also never stayed calibrated. Sold it and got a 780 and I’ll never look back. If I need a battery miter saw again I’ll get the new dewalt 781

That's really good to know. I've been wanting to give the 781 a test.

Custom fabricating solutions. Easy speedy fence. www.customfabricatingsolutions.com/store/p99/DeWalt_12%22_DWS780%2C_DWS782%2C_DWS779%2C_DHS780_%26_DHS790_EZ-Speedy_Zero_Clearance_Left_and_Right_Fence.html

In my opinion it is not nearly accurate enough for that type of calibration. It will get you close, but not calibration level close.

No, I still love them. I just had the chopmaster around and it was sharp so I threw it on the saw for the helper.

I should add the fence looks straight by a straightedge... A bad detent plate?

I have found the digital gauges to not be 100% repeatable. I don't think they were ever intended for calibrating tools. They are typically used to finding angles, pitches, etc. Far different from calibration. With that said they can be helpful but I back it up with a machinist square. Use a blade with as close to zero runout as possible. Also useful once calibration has been done and you want to hit a specific angle. If you look at the range of accuracy spec they are all the same until you get into expensive tools. The world of calibration equipment and methodology is a whole 'nuther rabbit hole!

I have an older Porter Cable miter saw that came with a two piece fence. It takes a little time to calibrate it, but you don’t need to worry about having a one piece fence that is bent. I was using a Dewalt miter saw once that I was struggling to get the saw calibrated until I realized that the fence was bent. I cut the fence in half at the back of the loop and proceeded to calibrate one side of the fence and then the other side. This worked perfectly.

@@tomreidy1237 thats what i was talking about. Not sure why its a one piece or the engineering behind it

I wouldn't mess with it. Not worth the trouble to me. I'd return and get another one.

@@InsiderCarpentry this was an older miter saw- way out of warranty. Someone was cutting a piece of aluminum extrusion and it pinched the blade and slammed the fence. I agree with you if it is new- take it back. However, if you can't do that and you still need it to cut accurately- cutting the fence into 2 pieces did improve the cuts.

that's the EZ speedy fence from custom fabricating solutions. It's easy to find on google.

Its CDO don't cha know... Alphabetical order. 😉

If I'm beveling its usually 45.5 or 46 degree overcut anyway, so it's usually not as critical.

@@InsiderCarpentry Good point Spencer, thanks for your reply.

He checked if it was square when he spent over 100 dollars on a tiny woodpecker square lol

Quick easy way is to take your square to a piece of scrap with a straight edge, make a mark, flip the square over, make another mark either right on your previous mark, or ~ 1/16" away. If the marks are parallel, its square, if not its junk. My $12 speed square is accurate, but not all are.

@@michaelnichols7669 this is the correct answer.

www.amazon.com/FS-Tool-SM6300-MITER-JOINT/dp/B089T744RP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20QQU3XFCTW2Q&keywords=fs+tool+sm6300&qid=1678753905&sprefix=fs+tool+sm%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-1

Just bought a new one for my apprentice.

Theft detterent. So that I know its mine, and I find if you leave a brand new bright and shiney tool on a jobsite with no identification on it, good change it walks off.

Only 5 actually... LOL

No problem!