I was thinking the same...

Either that or she has a disorder

Yeah that is not nearly normal behavior at all, especially when she was able to instantly shut her anger off when OP mentioned kicking them out

I also was thinking the same because I have PCOS and I have never been/is like this and my pcos is bad….

It's like, there's internalized misogyny, and then there's _this._ This is _so_ much more than that, like she was raised by a herd of obnoxious uncles or something? And instead of picking up the (still wrong) lesson to become "not like _other_ girls," she learned that she got to become an absolute monster once a month. *_Lycan't believe it!_*

She probably saw some Tik Toks that told her she can use it to bully everyone into giving her what she wants.

I wondered og tjere was something wrong with her hormone levels amd her emotions were way more vatile than they should be.

Yeah, of everyone with really bad period cramps I know/am friends with, all they have energy to do is eat snacks and lay on the couch with a heating pad...from the sounds of it, if I had periods, I would NOT have the energy to be violent

​@@TheSaxAppealtbf, with hormonal issues this behavior is plausible. It's likely when she was told to move out that she snapped out of it. I have pcos and once I was on medication, it became so much easier to handle my emotions. I was never violent but I unfortunately really deeply hurt my friends and family with my words.

Fr when youre bleeding out you just wanna bleed out in peace

And went through childbirth. I also hate to break it to Diane, but women have had periods long before the remedies of Midol and menstrual cups and most did not act like harpies. She should be thankful she’s not sent outside to stay in a tent or menstrual hut so to speak.

Yeah, the simple solution to this is to ask your boyfriend if this means that _you_ get to act that way every month. I'm pretty sure he'd make some sort of realization... either that or he'd just say "That's different." because he's an AH.

​@@Wendy_O._Koopa the second option would probably be the more realistic option.

@@Wendy_O._Koopaespecially considering he had the gall to say that OP doesn’t understand what Diane is going through. Only thing I would’ve done differently isn’t the story was kicked them out after she slammed the son against a wall just because he asked if she wanted to play a game.

​@@lorilancaster5917I've dreamed of doing that. I know...the grass is greener on the other side but it would be nice to be able to sit and relax while I bleed my guts out without feeling like I'm lazy. It would be expected of me to do that whereas today, when I use my period as an excuse to relax, I hear my Mom's and everyone else's voice in my head, "Why are you so lazy? Get up and find something to do or I'll find it for you. Oh....you feel pain? Quit being such a wimp and get moving before I give you something to complain about." I encourage my girls to track their cycles and never be ashamed to rest when t hey feel they it as long as they can tell me one thing they accomplished each day (above and beyond getting out of bed....this accomplishment I accept once a week without expecting more....everyone need flexibility to do this without guilt as long as it doesn'tget out of hand). I wish I could feel good about choosing to rest (I do rest but rarely feel good about it) and hope women can be given that choice to live in a hut OR work OR play every time their period comes. I suspect it won't happen because corporations want hard workers and will hire the people who don't take monthly breaks.

yeah seriously. hypocrites, the lot of them.

Re: Story 3: That is entitlement worthy of being a Karen. Re: Story 4: This right there-tests that involve mind games and/or posing certain questions where there's no right answer are a major red flag as they out the person asking as insecure.

Extra marital handholding? They are going to hell.

@@ricardodemarco3486 God said no hand-holding before marriage. He's married, God never said only holding hands with the wife. 😏

Hand holding is kinky now? Lol

​@@hiroshi7025holding hands with someone that isnt your wife/husband/SO is adultery, you dengenerate

Honestly, it's pretty sad that society has gotten to the point where it's normal to get to the dingaling in vageen stage before the hand holding stage.

And she deliberately got herself pregnant expecting OP to be the child’s mom essentially. It sounded like she completely ignored OP whenever she discussed her struggles being a single mom and expected her to do it again.

@@lorilancaster5917 The daughter is insane. I don't get it. I'm a college professor, so I'm usually the one defending Millennials and Gen Z. My students in this age bracket are so incredibly motivated, pro-social, and responsible. So, when I hear stories like this, my jaw drops.

@@ficialintelligence1869because she thinks it’s cute. She wants to show off what she thinks is a cute pregnancy and baby while doing none of the work. And knowing her mom raised her alone in a similar situation, you’d think she’d avoid that like the plague. I wonder if it was the boyfriend’s idea to move in with her because his parents already threatened to kick him out.

I feel so sorry for that poor baby, it hasn’t even been born yet and we know what a miserable life will be in store if its parents don’t get their heads out of their butts soon.

@@stevenandcarminabeedle9089 So basicaly the daughter wanted a baby as an accesory, like a cute handbag or a chihuahua. Too bad kids are not something you can put away whenever you want. OPs daughter is in for a rude awakening.

TBF, She's a child herself and was probably told all the jokes. Probably pre-planned it and doesn't understand the full consequences of her actions. Also hasn't developed enough empathy to understand why she's wrong. I don't blame OP for kicking BF and Demon out but that Demon needs a responsible Woman to put her in her place and BF needs to listen to that Woman because she knows more about periods than he does right now. OP could have been that woman but I don't blame her for not taking that roll....BF was undermining her at every turn. Also, my 2 girls haven't acted like this ever on their periods. I rarely even know they started or went through it. They get a small pass but never one for bad behavior like this.

FR FR I get symptoms so severe that I've been hospitalized, morphine drip, and all. Yet I have NEVER bodily injured someone else because of it.

I’m a woman with a working uterus and yes this is not an excuse. Feeling too sick to do anything on your period? Yes, valid excuse Craving junk food or particular foods? Yes, valid excuse Toxic controlling behavior and assault? It’s not an excuse.

@@iyaayasHonestly if the father had just let OP stop this crap where it stands this could have been fixed and the relationship could continue. She probably wanted to help understanding the struggle, but if you're fighting the child and the good-cop parent you're in a losing battle

Seems like she got the idea from somewhere that being on your period gives you a free pass to act like a demon, if this isnt addressed I can only imagine what she'll do when /if she's pregnant

Hopefully she doesn't keep acting that way

It reads as attention-seeking to me, but definitely with a side of ‘I learned what having periods mean - in a social and behavioral context - from TikTok.’

I’ve swam and ran miles before while on my period. Did I complain to the gym teacher? No. Did I try to cancel a whole swim day with people? No. I also don’t go screaming and yelling at people so yeah I agree

I think the bf and his daughter were trying to use such crappy tactic to dominate OP and her son, so that they would be the boss in OP's house...

It could also be a hormonal imbalance.

Exactly! Is she just going to be throwing around smaller children who dare to so much as talk to her every freaking cycle? That's not okay, and definitely needs some therapy if that's how it is.

Yeah. It sounds more like PMDD (a more severe form of PMS). She could also be suffering from anxiety and depression over her father's divorce with her bio-mom. She needs medical treatment and therapy, not her father enabling her.

Sounds like PMDD.

The more I read these stories, the more I realize I hit the lottery twice- once with my Lady Wife, and again with our daughter. Both SO low maintenance emotionally and financially.

If the daughter isn't purposely acting like this (cause that's what she thinks she's allowed/supposed to act like) then they need to get her into a doctor ASAP. She should be on meds to help dissuade these things. I honestly doubt that's the case and think she is being a brat, but she should probably be checked anyway.

@@careleoI read this story yesterday on XO Stories. OP provided an edit which she talked to Diane about her behavior. When confronted, Diane basically said that she shouldn’t be held accountable for anything when on her period. Meaning she knows she’s acting horrible and is weaponizing her time of the month. I’m glad for her sake and for her son’s that she kicked them out of her life.

That’s true: one has to wonder if she’s doing this on purpose as part of the whole “moving in with dad’s girlfriend” thing, if there isn’t something deeper going on about how, say, fast she thinks her dad is moving or something. OP didn’t supply any information on their family situation, did they? I could see the daughter pulling this as some sort of thing to try and get her dad back with her mom or something. It’s especially suspect with the daughter’s reaction to getting told they’re getting kicked out…

Women don't actually behave like this when we're on our period. We get moody and may yell, but most of the time, it's sarcasm or just silence. We are in too much pain to actually get full on aggressive. So this child is literally doing this simply because she wants to. I've been getting periods since I was 9, and I've never seen or know anyone to get abusive over their period starting. And the first one even with the talk happening you 9/10 think you're dying when it starts because it's so much blood and you weren't prepared in some way. Yes she's a kid but she's also a big bitch.

​@@careleoDid you miss the part when she only started acting like this when her dad came home?

I’m wondering if she was hoping by saying what she said that she expected to manipulate OP into selling his place, move on with her so she wouldn’t have to move, and get him to share proceeds of the sell with her? When he reacted as he did, only then she claimed it was a test to backpedal.

I think ‘commitment test’ is what people like her say because ‘I want to feel like you’d be devastated without me and/or want the ‘romance’ of you fighting for me’ reveals the less-than-flattering motivations that inevitably underpin such moves. Almost no one would sit down and rationally devise a ‘test their commitment’ plan without also reasonably considering the ways it could go wrong.

Toxic persons or persons, who have lived in toxic environment, does not understand the thing healthy persons do. You said no? Ok, no problem. It's called boundaries. They are there for a reason.

​@@AihtnycCyN Yeah. But I bet the girl goes both ways. Like, if you accept it, she is angry because "why don't you fight for me?!" but if you would keep pushing she probably would scream "why can't you accept it!? I said no!" Sometimes I get the feeling you can't win with some people, men and women alike!!

@@DeadDancers Over 20 years ago, I dealt with a woman online ... she told me a lot of crap, as I found out later, but one eye opener was, how she was furious when her ex - that she left - found a new girl. The same woman was flabbergasted when I blocked her after she asked me for a LotR ring replica, while she was screwing around, WHILE she told me she couldn't because blah blah some sickness. So no, this entitled behaviour isn't new and while I despise people like Tate, men have to stop to give the hyenas what they think they deserve.

Ironically, since my PFP, Wendy, has all brothers, I have all sisters; so like everyone in the house is female... except the cats, but y'know cats aren't particularly gendered. Anyhow, nobody, like not one of us has ever knocked another over during a period. Other times, sure, there has been roughhousing, but that actually goes _down_ when we're getting cramps because... well, why wouldn't it? When your body flat out turns against you (Wendy Corduroy), you really don't want to do _anything_ until it's over.

​@@Wendy_O._Koopawhat does PFP mean?

@@sinbadwilliams7186 It stands for "ProFile Picture," don't ask why the acronym uses two letters from the first word, I don't come up with them, people on the internet do. Also, I would think your name would be the _most_ important (in my case they match so it doesn't matter), but the consensus is to judge people based on their PFPs... apparently?

@@Wendy_O._Koopa ah. Thanks. So many acronyms nowadays that I honestly forget what means what sometimes

I’ve had midnight cravings and just cry a little until I can go out and get at a reasonable hour

Definitely NTA

When Dabney shouted "I'M ON MY PERIOD" it reminded me of a certain someone or other who did the same thing as a joke

Yea for sure

I never thought PMS could turn a girl into Veruca Salt with the temper of Mike Teavee. 🙃

​@@JamesDavy2009they do when they have a hormonal imbalance.

Anyone else wondering if there would be an update which a couple of weeks later OPs daughter changes her mind? I can’t see the bfs parents agreeing to her terms nor be as generous as OP. However I could be wrong.

@@lorilancaster5917yeah, either that or she comes crawling back once she realizes parenthood isn’t as easy as she thinks it is

@@E7XEEand she chose a partner who is just as lazy about parenthood as he is with everyday life. I’m curious to know how much of this was her idea or his idea?

I can't help but think these are discussions they should gave had long before the daughter got pregnant. The daughter has probably loved her life up to this point and sees getting pregnant as a way to continue that and live just like her mom not realizing the massive sacrifices mom had to make to give her that life.

Based as hell mario

The way she just suddenly stopped when OP told them to pack up and get out kind of proves it’s not a medical issue but her just lashing out.

@@Tustin2121I mean it could still be mental tbh

Nah, sounds to me like she spent all day on google looking up how to get what you want / what you can get away with 2while on your period, lol.

The hormone imbalance occurs like a week before. The women who do that are just the equivalent of someone getting sick and then taking it out on everyone else that their throat hurts from coughing. Their back and stomach hurting is not an excuse to act that way and their hormones have nothing to do with it at that time. Those who act like that and blame it on their period are just narcissists who take their pain out on everyone else.

@@lambybunny7173if it were mental, it would not have stopped when op told them to get out. it still would have continued.

Testing in relationship is dumb because it creates unwanted stress and confusion.

@@mushroommagic1697 The funniest thing is I'm aromantic asexual so i don't have or want romantic relationships. But no relationship i've seen around me survives this sort of childish garbage.

Is this a test??

​@@Avrysatos You're a what now? Oh, a delusional freak. Agreed on the second part tho, don't know why you think any of us care what bs thing you identity as.

People who engage in these "tests" don't seem to realize that they're *providing* information, too, not just obtaining it. By carrying out their test, they're failing a test as well.

Seems more like OP's daughter though what OP went through didn't seem all that bad and looks more fun than painful and thought she and her boyfriend could take advantage of OP like that.

Turn her into a destructive force

And I love how threw in the Christian manner. Do they not care that the wife broke a freaking Commandment?

I laugh so hard when he said "gross . I don't want her" thats some SASS

​@@dinlupus3196 and the offer to his friends 🤣

Yeah, groveling at someone’s feet is not how healthy relationships are made. That’s how controlling people put other people in line. OP got a taste of what she would be like later, and he got out at exactly the right time.

I have always thought that if I truly loved someone but they didn't want to be with me, the most loving thing I could do is let them go. Somehow guilt tripping them into staying is not healthy.

@@Tustin2121exactly. It’s just seems like a weird power play. If you’re happy and moving in together why are you playing games now? Why double down and accuse your partner for using you if you initiated the break up in the first place?

Yeah, it's like women who say "asking me out more than once is har@ssment" but still want to be chased. Lots of hypocrites out there.

"It's not 'gravel', it's 'grovel'." -Timon

And you can offer your sister in the break up since she’s siding with the ex. OP isn’t an AH for prioritizing his wellbeing and his parents need to get on board or keep their mouths shut.

Yeah, she probably saw some TikTok video and decided to emulate it.

@@AzureKyle Ugh. I know that your statement is hypothetical, but if anyone is so immature as to emulate/use TT for relationship advice, he didn't just dodge a bullet ... he dodged an elephant-gun shell.

@ficialintelligence1869 It's not a hypothetical, people post themselves doing these kinds of tests to their SO's and others start emulating them and posting their videos. Like the orange peel test.

Yea for sure

100% not normal behavior.

Woman here, we don't do crap like this. She was fed BS and thinks it's okay to act like that.

It's not actually the period, but the hormone balance shifting that can cause mood swings. You however absolutely shouldn't go full on batshit crazy & should be going to see a doctor if you're feeling anywhere near that level of bad...

Yeah, can you imagine what the world would be like if menstruating women went around behaving like this?

The fact that she went from 0 to 100 the second her dad came home means that that wasn’t her behavior on her period, that is manipulation to see how far she can get away with something for starting her period. And her dad proved she can get away with a lot, including harming her eight-year-old brother. the second that happened she should’ve kicked both of the dad and the daughter out. There is no way the loving year-old should get away with bruising and hurting their younger sibling. I feel so sorry for that boy for having such a spineless dad that will let his daughter harm him just because she’s on her period. What utter BS

Holy cow! That so called “dad” has created a monster. When she ends up in prison someday, maybe it will finally dawn on him that he shouldn’t have enabled her; I doubt it, but you never know.

Can't fight the seether

A person of culture, I see. Glad to know I'm not the only commenter that uses characters from _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_ as character archetypes. While Veruca Salt astutely defines her character, I would add the anger of Mike Teavee.

Well in all fairness it could be a hormonal imbalance. It happened to me and I was similar but I wasn't violent (but man did I have to restrain myself). Anyway I'm on medication now and I just get the normal symptoms. Or she could just be faking. 😂

Exactly, because if the new girlfriend went out of her way to tell OP all about their ex-spouses’ affair, divorce her husband for it, and support OP through the painful betrayal of his ex, it shows that she’s trustworthy, compassionate, and respectful. Everything that makes an excellent friend or partner. Whether the romance works out or not, I still don’t know, but either way, OP found a great friend/girlfriend for life. All I can say is, the best type of revenge is to do nothing but move on and live the best life you can with the people that matter.

OK but were not all the same, she may have a hormonal imbalance and need medication not your judgment.

even revenge affair is fine, as long as both want it

@@Bleg94 my thoughts exactly, Its not like their ex-partners cared about how much this would hurt them

Look at how much easier Holidays will be! The kids all get to see their parents. I’m a “glass half full” sort with a wee bit of evil in me. 😂😂

@@Bleg94 It's fine for what it is but deciding to go further with it if it is just a revenge affair would be a really bad idea. Fortunately it doesn't sound like that is the case here.

Since this is her first period, I’m thinking she’s seeing what she can get away with from her dad since she thinks this won’t fly with her mom. No clue but I’m thinking of how she wasn’t bad around OP, yeah annoying and not cool with boundaries, but her scheme showed most around her dad and OPs son.

@@lorilancaster5917 I'm wondering, since the dad has full custody, how bad was the mom to lose all custody? Did the daughter pick up this deranged behaviour from mom?

@@breezy3392also valid point. It wasn’t mentioned if she lived far away or much details for that matter.

Lol, 2 brokenhearted and loyal people becoming a couple, then the other 2 is both unfaithful, liars, deceitful and massive POS. Yah, fair trade... Just like trading a pure diamond stone for a pure plastic stone...

Agreed I would not put up with that shit

Enemies to nsfw to getting flustered at a kiss

@@justaperson4656 Enemies to NSFW is a ＷＩＬＤ trope name 😭

@@hiroshi7025 I couldn't think of anything else to call "you were my enemy, now run me through like a freight train"

@@justaperson4656 They're the same people trying to keep Puritanism alive when it died in the late 1600's.

@@JamesDavy2009 what?

He did try tell her he could compromise and backtrack a bit, AKA trying to address a problem like a mature adult. And then when she said she didn't want to compromise he respected her decision. The idea that someone SHOULD try to beg or emotionally manipulate you into staying in a relationship you don't want to be in is so creepy to me

The fact that she doubled down and accused OP of using her all this time. Like yeah, no, this wasn’t a mistake, she’s just crazy.

It shows the tester is insecure or distrustful.

Maybe it's a hormonal imbalance? I have pcos (started period at 8) and was similar to this till I was on medication. My family also just accepted my behavior and I had to get it sorted by my self at 23.

Well even if she did had that condition, there was nothing done. He just let her do whenever she feels or whatever. Not to mention she is actually weaponizing it as she is aware.

@tailsofchaos Yes obviosly you shouldn't enable the behaviour, one should go see a doctor.

@@myfriendcow Knowing her, she would just throw a tantrum to not go to the doctor 😅

For story 2 it feels like shes watched or read stuff about how people handle periods and that always plays up the emotions, cravings etc. So that's what shes playing out. I'm sure she has cramps and feels emotional to some extent but the rest is so obviously her just acting up. The dad doesn't know this isnt usual behaviour but he should listen to his gf and they should have sat her down and explained the emotions and what to expect but also that everyone is different so she might feel all, none, or some of these things.

Same with story 2. Once I started developing, mom got me the "My Body & Me" book (which I've now passed down to my cousins) and once my periods officially started, mom took me pad shopping and I got painkillers from grandma (she was working in a nursing house back then, may she rest in peace). And the only time I stayed home from school was if my cramps were too severe or if I looked physically ill. My mood swings were no excuse for me to act out cuz my parents shut that down

Story 2: I think you’re on to something with “extreme attention seeking behavior”. I’m almost positive she’s using this as an excuse to lash out at her dad for choosing to move in with his girlfriend instead of, like, getting back together with her mom (if she’s still in the picture, OP didn’t say) or something similar related to the step-mom situation.

If a kid at 11 acting out for attention, there is usually something else going on. I would hesitate to call her a brat or treat her poorly.

@@Ikajo yep, which is why I said her behaviour needs attention

If anyone should fight for it, it needs to be the person who ruined it isn’t the first place. Why aren’t they harping on her to “fix things”?

Or it was PMDD. It's a mental health issue that basically turns your period into a psychiatric emergency. I have it and I acted like that all through puberty and even info adulthood until I got on medications that helped. I did have more self awareness afterwards and took accountability, but I can give some grace to an 11 year old experiencing the hell that is PMDD for the first time

@@sophdog2564 I won't argue that. I know how fortunate that it is that my daughter basically only gets inconvenienced and really no other symptoms. In either case, the dad didn't handle it right. Edit: Went on Reddit and read some more. The girl assaulted OP before with no consequences. She also watches a lot of TikTok and KZfaq without any supervision. Combined with the Dad giving her a free pass on the rest of her behavior, I think he's just (barely) raising an entitled manipulator.

Or have the center of their cinnamon rolls snatched and throw away before the can eat them.

@@lorilancaster5917 As a parent, I dare say this is much worse than stepping on legos with bare feet. That's really not as bad as it seems. But steal my cinnamon roll center? We're going to war!

That's what I thought too, I think the 11yo is having a really hard time rn and she's lashing out bc she doesn't know how to ask for help. OP is right to protect her 8yo son, no doubt about that, but that doesn't mean the 11yo is an a-hole or a bad person. She's a kid, she's going thru a lot of big life changes. It can't be easy for her. Ofc she's going to leverage what little power she has. It's all she CAN do, at this point in her life. Idk if OP should continue her relationship with her bf, but I do hope the bf will get his kid some help. It rly sounds like she's struggling 😒

If she IS having hormonal imbalances this big, she needs a doctor.

second OP: We did get to see a 12 year old Angelica Pickles in All Grown Up (yes I know it's polarizing, shut up) and she didn't act like this. A bit sneaky and spoiled, sure, but not that unhinged.

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How DARE they! True Story: My then Boyfriend and I were hounded by people at our church for holding hands in public (we suspect....that and a hug here or there is all we did and we were accused of too much PDA but only the leaders talked to us....not our accusers.....the leaders wven told us they don't know what were specifically doing that was inappropriate to cause others to complain). It was getting so ridiculous that I wrote my now husband a note and said, "Let's just get married and shut these people up." He said said he was thinking the same thing. Roughly 6-7 months after meeting, we held a ceremony in front of the entire congregation. The next service afterwards, we didn't care and upped our antics to wrapping our arms around each other's backs in public. Maybe a kiss here or there. We got even more complaints. Lucky for then, I had to leave hubby behind for a few months for my job. Been married for 20+ years now. I still love holding his hand when I can.

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